From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #283 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, July 22 2001 Volume 10 : Number 283 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re:Clerkenwell ["Ultimate Goal" ] Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW [Ken Weingold ] The Morris Windsor Report ["Walker, Charles" ] RE: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW ["Brian Huddell" ] correction [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW [Capuchin ] Re: New Feg [Capuchin ] Re: The Wonderful Wonderful Worm [bayard ] RE: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW [Glen Uber ] Re: Dorcus [steve ] Re: Hatching Snapdragons [Eb ] RE: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW [Ken Weingold ] Re: New Feg ["Randy R." ] music, cats, names, and random poetry [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Digna] re: neofeggia [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: New Feg ["victorian squid" ] my cat eats plastic ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] re: neofeggia [Capuchin ] Re: New Feg [HAL ] Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW [Eclipse ] Re: New Feg [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: New Feg [Viv Lyon ] Re: neofeggia [Viv Lyon ] Last Nights Show ["Maximilian Lang" ] I Wanna Destroy You [Mike Swedene ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:28:26 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Re:Clerkenwell >From: bayard < >Robyn: >"we're also playing unbilled at the Clerkenwell Free Festival - outside >the Three Kings - on July 20th at 7pm." > >say, that's tonight innit? > >anyone able to go to this (and tape it, of course?) > >=b I'd be there, but I'll be in the wrong country. From:http://fegmania.org/chrono.html May 1989. Robyn puts in a strange, mentally disturbed solo performance at Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club, Soho, London. He spends most of the gig running around on stage trying to get away from his own shadow. - -Is there a known live recording of this show? Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:30:10 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW On Fri, Jul 20, 2001, Glen Uber wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, JH3 wrote: > > >John "the 'NT' part stands for 'Reboot ConstaNTly'" Hedges > > I thought it stood for "No Thanks". Or possibly, "Not Today". "Nice Try". - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:56:16 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: The Morris Windsor Report When I was waiting to use the bathroom at Largo at the SB's 'unannounced announced' gig i discovered this board covering something up in the hall. being nosey i started poking behind it and discovered all of the fuses and transformers to the club. the bathroom door opened and Morris, while washing his hands, noticed what i was doing, looked at me in a slightly concerned and forboding way and said, "I wouldn't recommend it." he then vacated the bathroom thus saving me from short cicuiting the club [and myself] out of my idle/four pints curiosity. chas in LA http://www.theweeklywalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:00:31 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW > >John "the 'NT' part stands for 'Reboot ConstaNTly'" Hedges > > I thought it stood for "No Thanks". Or possibly, "Not Today". Not very fashionable to say this, but on the 9 NT servers I support it could easily stand for "No Trouble." I can point to 3 boxes offhand with uptimes in excess of 1 year. So they do, on occasion, work. Maybe I've been extraordinarily lucky (what a profound waste of extraordinary luck *that* would be). Obviously I prefer Linux, lest my non-existent cred exist even less than it already does. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: correction >> a friend has just alerted me to a Portland band, Surface Creeper. Are >> they rated at all locally? Said friend is lurking around Portland >> currently, drinking beer, being Scottish, and enjoying the jet lag. > >I saw them open for GBV, and they stank. Foully. You're thinking of Creeper Lagoon (who did stink, most foully). Surface Creeper did not open for GBV, and may or may not stink foully. I know a Scottish guy in Portland. He's the boyfriend (possibly ex-) of the keyboardist in my friend Ross's band. His name, oddly enough, is Scott. I don't think this is Stewart's friend, though, as he's from Edinburgh, and he's been here a few years. Stupid anecdote #1,407 - said keyboardist got an enormous insect bite of some sort on her leg. I reckoned it might be a spider bite, and then was compelled to start singing, "When you got that spider bite on your hand..." in a Wayne Coyne sort of way. gnat "I was glad that it didn't destroy you" the gnatster - -- Natalie Jane Jacobs gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:10:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Glen Uber wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, JH3 wrote: > >John "the 'NT' part stands for 'Reboot ConstaNTly'" Hedges > I thought it stood for "No Thanks". Or possibly, "Not Today". However unbelievable this may seem, they put an NT box on my desk for... TIME REPORTING. Anyway, I modified the little bitmap that says something about logging in or waiting for a login prompt or something so that it now has a disclaimer at the bottom that says: NT is a trademark of Northern Telecommunications That always gets a big laugh around here... mostly because it's true. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:10:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: New Feg On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Glen Uber wrote: > My mother claims to have gone to school with three of the Butts > children: Harry, Mary and Rosie. My mother claims to have gone to school with an Ima Butts. Hmm. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Re: The Wonderful Wonderful Worm JH - One of my webmaster buddies tells me there is a bug going around called the "Code Red" worm. apparently it's hit a bunch of our bozes today, and is a NASTY little thing. Maybe that's what's bugging RB. (instead of the usual BG) =b On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, JH3 wrote: > Sorry folks... > > I'm afraid we seem to be having a more-than-slight problem with > our web server these days. (This is the one that the Robynbase site > runs on.) It just keeps stopping on us, for no apparent reason. We > may even be under attack, in fact... though I checked it out very > thoroughly, and couldn't find *any* latex condoms in the CPU > case. > > Anyway, it wasn't my idea to run a Windows NT web server, so > please don't... you know. Just DON'T! > > I'll let you know if the problem ever gets solved, but remember > who we're dealing with here. > > John "the 'NT' part stands for 'Reboot ConstaNTly'" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:41:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: RE: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Brian Huddell wrote: >Not very fashionable to say this, but on the 9 NT servers I support it >could easily stand for "No Trouble." I can point to 3 boxes offhand >with uptimes in excess of 1 year. So they do, on occasion, work. Maybe >I've been extraordinarily lucky (what a profound waste of extraordinary >luck *that* would be). I guess I've been lucky as well. Maybe it's because ours is a small office (only 15 workstations), but the NT machine that acts as our intranet server, database server, and office file server has been up and running for over a year without any trouble at all. Our mx services, DSL router, firewall, ftp, and security are all handled on a single RedHat Linux box that I've had to reboot just once in the last year. Our web server is co-located on a VA Linux machine that has run smoothly since the beginning of the year. I have nothing against using NT for certain applications. I just like pissing on Microsoft's parade, that's all. Glad it's Friday, - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:07:38 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Dorcus On Friday, July 20, 2001, at 10:59 AM, Walker, Charles wrote: > i new a girl in school name dorcus williams. Dorcus means "graceful", so I wonder how these relate - http://ozclub.ozsystem.co.jp/assist/g/ http://www.lileks.com/institute/dorcus/index.html http://www.kakaa.or.jp/~isobe/ookuwa/manual/english.htm http://www.dorcus.com/ http://www.southwestern.edu/student-life/organizations/tri- delta/history.html http://www.webcom.com/beetle/kouchu/kouchu4.html - - Steve __________ President Bush met privately with top officials from the Salvation Army in May to discuss his "faith-based" initiative while the White House was reviewing a request from the charity for a regulation protecting it from local workplace nondiscrimination laws based on sexual orientation. - Dana Milbank, Washington Post ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 13:14:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hatching Snapdragons Godwin: >But the important thing with ML is to try to find a copy of the TV >play which made his name: 'Abigail's Party'. It is _impossible_ to watch >Alison Steadman in this without screaming in embarrassment. Explain? - ---- Otherwise... I'm on AIM at irregular intervals, but feel icky about publicly posting my handle. Email me if you want it. In high school, one of my co-valedictorians had the middle name "McNutt." :) No one ever believed it was really his name, the first time around. He always had to *plead* his case, to show he wasn't joking. It was apparently one of those mother's-maiden-name deals. I've listened to two of the four Nuggets II discs...I'll probably pull a Godwin-style rundown, once I get through all of it. Teenage Fanclub played in Hollywood last night, for the first time in quite awhile. I kinda wish I had gone. Reap: Mimi Farina. Bad month for '60s folkies, I guess. Speaking of which, I sure hope that upcoming Dylan album (Love and Theft) isn't a letdown. I dread hearing another one of those "lazy" albums he usually dribbles out, following a major work like Time Out of Mind. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:23:01 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW Glen Uber: > I just like pissing on Microsoft's parade, that's all. It's a favorite pastime of mine as well, believe me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:33:40 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW On Fri, Jul 20, 2001, Brian Huddell wrote: > Glen Uber: > > > I just like pissing on Microsoft's parade, that's all. > > It's a favorite pastime of mine as well, believe me. That's a good point. Microsoft and AOL are wonderful scapegoats, and as much as I like UNIX and work with it every day and run it at home, I like NT. 2k is good too, most say better than NT, but I have trouble getting passed the shell. Because of some work stuff, I have to run Windows on my desktop, so I run NT4. It's fine. Plus enough unix weenies are forced to use it, so lots of stuff has been ported to it. And I remap Caps Lock to Control, so all is well. But AOL really is a piece of shit. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:01:07 -0700 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: New Feg From: Capuchin > My mother claims to have gone to school with an Ima Butts. When I was 21 I had a roommate who went by the name of Tom Ledford. His given name was Thomas Robert Medford but his mother later married a man with the last name of Ledford. So that's what he went by, for a while. He was confused as whether he should be Rob Ledford (his schoolmates took to calling him by his middle name) or Tom Medford. He legally changed his name to Dale Hoinkus. In the neighboring town of where I grew up, there was the name to end them all. Harold Dick. AIM name---Randalljr1865, for anyone who like to discuss the merits of Geddy Lee (Gary Lee Weinrib), Alex Lifeson (Alex Zivinovich), or Neil Peart (Neil Peart). Anagrams being Dyed Glee, Lion Flea Sex, and Antler Pie. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 10:46:10 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: music, cats, names, and random poetry >there is a difference in that the musical landscape in that you were >dealing with at 27 or 29 or 38 is radically different, namely that >"rock'n'roll" [trademark] is, not dead, but no longer even close to >being that important to younger aspiring musicians the way it would >have been then. this isn't meant in that idiotic "hip-hop/techno isn't >music" sort of way; it's just that if you tend to not like hip-hop very >much, the scope from which you can find new music is more limited. a couple of years back I was listening to and enjoying techno. Trouble is it seems to me to be a very limited form - I haven't heard anything new in it for ages. Same with hip-hop. And at the moment pretty much the only real alternative is cheesy-pop. "Alternative" as a pseudo-genre seems to have died for the moment or at the very least simply turned into bouncy competent pop and little more. Ethnic's become passe. Where's the new movement? Oh, 38, BTW. >p.s. My kitten is now queen bad-ass and spends day and night running >around and eating Kleenex. The vet says she will be a big cat. I told >her the cat's name was Hopey, but it keeps getting mistaken for >"Hopi." So the quest continues... I've always liked the Russian word for cat - "Koshka" >On AIM and Y! I am mrblint17 In sun and sky I am taller than an evergreen Through wind and fire I repose 'neath a raven's wing In deepest night I...erm...can't think of anything (sorry) James (who went to school with - I kid you not - Dallas Goodwillie) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:02:58 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: re: neofeggia >Some unisex names: >Bonk >Dink >Erroneous >Jub-Jub >Moldy >Paff >Tarkus >Zeppelin hey... some good choices! Did you advise Frank Zappa? there are plenty of good old-fashioned names that have gone out of usage - how about: - - Brained - - Lettice - - Bugless - - Capability - - Habbakuk or ultra modern: - - Modem - - Eftpos - - Genome - - Nanotech - - Quark (this one has a certain charm, n'est-ce pas?) then there's always the political statement: - - George W. - - Che - - Idi - - T. Danforth - - First Leningrad People's Tractor Collective or something with a certain ethnic 'je ne sais quoi' - - Menachem - - Consuela - - Mahinarangi - - Teofilio - - Leaping Buffalo then there's the 'pop-culture' routh - - Lourdes - - Tiger - - Posh - - Tinky-Winky - - Jar-Jar or the 'place of conception/birth/home' method: - - Toronto - - St. Paul - - Chipping Sodbury - - Ouagadougou - - Wagga-Wagga or just make up something unique, or perhaps a random word from the dictionary: - - Fnuddy - - Aarrk! - - Zugzwang - - Plittleflittle - - Plocker-Mootoo Plenty of choices. I'm sure one of them will be perfect... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:56:04 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: New Feg On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:01:07 Randy R. wrote: >In the neighboring town of where I grew up, there was the name to end them >all. Harold Dick. My father's brother was named Harry Peter. Dad says that he became quite the brawny badass guy (the "boy named Sue" effect), and if you called him anything but Pete you'd be on the business end of said brawn. In related news, people in Oregon and Washington will be happy to know that that serial rapist/killer guy was caught today. The guy who spotted his truck and called the police was called Ernie L'Hereux and the chase and capture took place in Malhereux county. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:08:51 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: my cat eats plastic >From: "Walker, Charles" >i am all about flexibility. my 2cents. I'm Andy to my blood relatives (and friends of my parents), Drew to my friends and colleagues, and Andrew to anyone who doesn't know me. I always know when a telemarketer is calling, even when they don't get as far as pronouncing my last name "Shimick" or "Shmick." >From: Natalie Jane Jacobs > >p.s. My kitten is now queen bad-ass and spends day and night running >around and eating Kleenex. O hell. >The vet says she will be a big cat. I told >her the cat's name was Hopey, but it keeps getting mistaken for >"Hopi." So the quest continues... My cat's name is Tamburlane but we shorten it to Tami, so they always think he's the girl. Margaret's cat's name is Llorona but we shorten it to Lloni...fortunately no one seems to think we mean "Yoni." Oh, also their nicknames have nicknames -- Tami is Tam-Tam and Lloni is Llonona. Thank me for sharing! Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: re: neofeggia On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, James Dignan wrote: > or something with a certain ethnic 'je ne sais quoi' > - Leaping Buffalo I went to school (all the way through, in fact, 'cept that he was two years ahead [with my brother until my brother started sliding back to my year and then dropped out], but we had many classes together because... well, because I did that) with a fellow by the name of Still Eagle Wilder. He went by Still Eagle and I don't remember anyone EVER making fun of his name. In fact, it never once came up. He was a tall, blonde, blue-eyed caucasian. But recall that this was the school where, when our new-to-these-parts high school english teacher decided to have "an open discussion about the tough issues of today", my class couldn't come up with a single racial stereotype. And when the teacher suggested some, we all laughed because we'd never heard of them before and thought they were absurd. It was a very sheltered town. When you don't have minorities, you don't know how to stereotype. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 19:17:52 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: New Feg > >In the neighboring town of where I grew up, there was the name to end them > >all. Harold Dick. > My father's brother was named Harry Peter. The one-time mayor of Fort Wayne, IN (don't ask me how I know this) was named Harry W. Baals. It was pronounced "bails", but when they put up a street sign named after him, it (he) was forever re-christened "Harry Balls" by the denizens of the city. /hal PS - Re: Mike Leigh films My favorite is NAKED, but highly recommend SECRETS AND LIES. Loved TOPSY-TURVY. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Eclipse Subject: Re: The Wonderful Wonderful WWW > > >John "the 'NT' part stands for 'Reboot ConstaNTly'" Hedges > > > > I thought it stood for "No Thanks". Or possibly, "Not Today". > > "Nice Try". "Nice Tits" Eclipse ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: New Feg Viv Lyon wrote: > Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > 'least your surname isn't Wyllie, as some family in Aberdeen chose > > for their kid when a friend was a resident up at the hospital. Kylie > > Wyllie? You couldn't make it up. > > A friend of mine went to school with a girl named Cinnamon McMenamin. then there are always the kids whose names translate badly, like a guy at my high school named Phu Kuu..... ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." -- Mark Twain "The divinity of Jesus has been made a convenient cover for every absurdity." -- John Adams "The jury is the last line of defense against corporate misconduct." -- Craig McDonald, Texans for Public Justice Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 23:53:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: New Feg On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Christopher Gross wrote: > One summer I worked with a guy named William William Jr. (We called him > Bill Bill.) The part that really struck me was the "Jr." -- his father > grew up with that name but was still heartless enough to inflict it on his > son. William Williams is time-honored traditional name on my dad's mother's side of the family. In fact, I ran into a William Williams the other day, and I congratulated him in his illustrious and elegantly symmetrical name. He looked dubious, at best. He complained that it was alright when he was young, and people called him Bill, but it was a real embarrassment now that he was older and he had to be called William. I didn't have the temerity to point out to him that he could still call himself Bill, seeing as how he was adult, with free will and all. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 00:13:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: neofeggia On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Mark Gloster wrote: > Jub-Jub Why, I was just at the Jub Jub Club in Chicago earlier tonight. Whatta dump. Don't go there. > Undie What about Undine? That's a pretty name...except that it would inevitably be shortened to, well, Undie. Of course, you could get around that by switching to the alternate spelling, Ondine. Congrats to you on your new feline additions, and expect to see Jeme and I very soon indeed. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:32:42 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Last Nights Show Did anybody see this? Does anyone have a review? Did anybody record it, if so please contact me as I would like to trade for a copy. Thanks, Max(who is named after his grandfather Emil) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 12:56:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: I Wanna Destroy You I found a LIVE cover of this by the Replacements. I downloaded it from my friend from Israel. Anyone else hear it? He had it listed as an unreleased MATS song. Oh well..... at least he listens to the good captain. Herbie np- Weezer "Summer Songs" Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #283 ********************************