From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #280 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 19 2001 Volume 10 : Number 280 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: New Feg [John Barrington Jones ] Re: New Feg [Capuchin ] Bad Dream Fancy Dress ["Ultimate Goal" ] grey ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Youth Culture washed my dishes and swept the floor [Natalie Jane Jacobs <] Re: New Feg [the other white meat ] Re: New Feg [John Barrington Jones ] Weaving with Old Threads ["Rude Becky of Goldstrum" ] spoken word! [bayard ] Re: New Feg [Tom Clark ] the stars don't lie ["Sirloin Stockade" ] planet krikkit/gotta hatch these fegs out ["ross taylor" ] Re: New Feg [the other white meat ] Re: grey ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Weaving with Old Threads [Eb ] Re: Weaving with Old Threads [Capuchin ] Re: 27 = old [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #279 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Cricket (no RH content), New Feg [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan] holy wow! [X2] ["Motherfucking Asshole" ] unhatched feglings [Carole Reichstein ] can't stop nardwuar! ["Sirloin Stockade" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: New Feg Hey, I have the exact same criteria - I think I'm a bit more picky than you are, because we have the three syllable rule for first name. And of course, no alliteration. For pete's sake, isn't John & Jacci Jones enough? ugh. Blame my mom. =jbj= > > Please do. We've been having a hell of a time. But being the picky > > butthead that I am, I've got criteria: > > 1) No alliteration - "Kathy Clark", "Christine Clark", etc... > > 2) Must be more than one syllable. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: New Feg On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, John Barrington Jones wrote: > And of course, no alliteration. For pete's sake, isn't John & Jacci > Jones enough? ugh. > Blame my mom. Your mom chose your wife? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:55:05 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Bad Dream Fancy Dress Can anyone tell me about the music of Bad Dream Fancy Dress? http://www.cherryred.co.uk/el/baddream.htm I'm a big Monochrome Set fan and wonder if BDFD is somehow related to the Would Be Good (whose songs were backed by music provided by the Monochrome Set). Cherry records sez the Would Be Goods album "The Camera Loves Me" (excellent album BTW) is the sister album to Bad Dream Fancy Dress' "Choir Boys Gas" album: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/el/wouldbe.htm Thanks Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:07:52 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: grey >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >for that matter, why does the Husker Du album use the UKEnglish spelling >"Candy Apple Grey"? I'm sure I've seen another prominent US indiesque band >using UKEnglish spellings too, but my mind's turned to tapioca today. "Grey" is one of those spellings that doesn't seem all that UK-ish to me. I mean, I know it is, but it doesn't look as unusual as "gaol," "tyre," or even "defence," and I've been using it pretty much interchangeably with "gray" since I was a kid. Of course, I read a lot of books written by UK authors, so that might have made a difference. >From: Natalie Jane Jacobs > > >putting out moribund release after release (REM). > >(Or Robyn.) It hardly seems worth arguing with a parenthetical, but I would say that that really only applies to the A&M releases. Since then I've been pretty excited about everything he's put out. I was pretty much ready to give up on him after _Respect_ and _You and Oblivion_ and I'm glad I didn't. >From: Michael R Godwin > >This may be OK for us 53-year-olds, but all you people aged 27 really >ought to be putting at least another 20 years' effort into listening to >modern tripe. After all, I was 38 when I discovered the Egyptians ... There's a new Luke Haines solo album out. That was the most exciting thing in the Mod Lang list I got yesterday. >From: Tom Clark > >Hello Fegdom. I just wanted to let the world know that Coleen and I are >expecting a baby girl sometime this December! Yes, believe it or not, the >seed of my loin has become fruitful in the belly of my woman. Boom shanka! "Robyn" is perhaps too obvious a choice, but I think you must agree that "Robyn Clark" sounds pretty good. It certainly fits your criteria. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: Youth Culture washed my dishes and swept the floor >I let Natalie vet all my new music. She's got impeccable taste. That explains why you have Of Montreal's entire back catalogue! Uh, anyway, I too sang "Pidgin English" on my 27th birthday. And on my 22nd birthday, I sang that Stooges song: "Last year I was twenty-one, didn't have a lot of fun, this year I'm gonna be twenty-two, oh my and a boo hoo." And on my thirtieth birthday, I will duly sing XTC's "Train Running Low on Soul Coal" ("I'm a thirty-year-old puppy doing what I'm told"). Congratulations to Tom and Sloop John B. on the impending neonates! I can't help name them, though - I'm *still* trying to name my cat... - - the placenta kid p.s. I did not smash anything (including my 30-year-old guitar) at our show. I sorta wanted to smash the heads of the blank-eyed hipsters in the audience, though. Next time, maybe... - -- Natalie Jane Jacobs gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:50:59 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Re: New Feg when we last left our heroes, Tom Clark exclaimed: >Please do. We've been having a hell of a time. But being the picky >butthead that I am, I've got criteria: >1) No alliteration - "Kathy Clark", "Christine Clark", etc... >2) Must be more than one syllable. my vote's "joey ramone clark". (my brother and his wife were seriously considering that name (sans clark) for their latest spawn, but chickened out at the last minute and settled on william reed.) woj n.p. tori amos -- "strange little girl" (the song, not the album) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:41:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: New Feg no, thank god, no. =jbj= On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Capuchin wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, John Barrington Jones wrote: > > And of course, no alliteration. For pete's sake, isn't John & Jacci > > Jones enough? ugh. > > Blame my mom. > > Your mom chose your wife? > J. > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:48:56 -0000 From: "Rude Becky of Goldstrum" Subject: Weaving with Old Threads Jill >See just about anything by Mike Leigh (including Topsy Turvy, which >was >one of my favorite movies of last year). Hmmm-I think Jill's on vac so can anyone else rec some of this guy's films. I loved Topsey Turvey.(My movie going habits are as erratic as Woz's. I never even saw American Beauty. The story sounded so cliched. I kept thinking I "should" see it. That it was an "important" movie. But I didnt really -want- to see it so ... so much for importance. Never saw Fight Club either, another "should" versus -want-. Cant believe I missed the dipthong thread. Somehow Aelfred always looked more kingly to me than Alfred. The dipthong gave it a hint of esoterica, of past time, of lost secrets, of a power undreamt of by modern minds, of .... fuck, Im -such- a Romantic. But archaic stuff just seems to carry hints of the unknown along with it--and I really like that regardless of its original function. Agree with the general consensus: 400 Blows+, Jules n Jim-. Susan, as usual, gets it right. DEE-fence for sports, otherwise duh-FENCE. Looks like Nov 6th,--Musical Buffy. Wooo-hooo! Godwin: >I blame Bernard Shaw for starting people thinking along these lines. >Wasn't there a "spelling reform" e-mail doing the rounds a year or so >ago >which illustrated the pitfalls of these schemes? Actually, it was my illustrious, original and highly eccentric forefather, Noah Webster, who started or at least popularized the logical spelling thing. He also helped legitamize the idea that American English is a viable and correct variation of the English language. Neat, weird guy. http://www.m-w.com/about/noah.htm Godwin: >If you really want to learn what cricket is about, get a copy of P G >Wodehouse's 'Mike at Wrykyn', or the original bigger novel 'Mike', >which >also incorporates 'Mike and Psmith'. I don't believe the bit >where Psmith >turns out to be a brilliant bowler, though. Do you mean I will understand something better if I read about it in a Wodehouse book!?! Having read the odd bits here and there, hither and yon, on and on, I rather take exception, if you catch my riff, I mean, really, all in all, to the cut of your jibe there, my good man. Tom and John--Congrats! Little Feggies. And remember "I Often Dream of Trains" is a great lullabye. Brett: >the blank no-focus saccarhin shit-eating >ecstasy-induced smile that Janet Jackson is always sporting in her >music >videos so damn annoying?!?! Yup. And dont forget the added hazard of celebrity teeth. I find celebrity teeth frightening. They're disproportianatly big and have this weird glow, as if the person wouldnt even have to turn the light on when they wanted to read in the middle of the night, they'd just need to smile. Old and cranky Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:52:47 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: grey on 7/18/01 12:07 PM, Andrew D. Simchik at drew@stormgreen.com wrote: > Boom shanka! > > "Robyn" is perhaps too obvious a choice, but I think you must agree > that "Robyn Clark" sounds pretty good. It certainly fits your criteria. I really like it, but I think too many people will roll their eyes. Plus, we both knew someone named Robyn Clark and she eventually went schizo. Which brings me to criteria #3: Can't be the name of an old girlfriend/boyfriend. So much for "Naomi", - -tc np: Julian Cope "Interpreter" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:23:36 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: spoken word! hey fegs! i'm gonna slap a Robyn spoken word page up on the web - to tide us over until jbj's spoken word tape project gets going again. anyone have any suggestions about awesome spoken bits from shows or interviews (especially if they're already digitized?) a few ideas - - -that pre-Birchmere show WRGW interview - -the radio interview where the DJ asks mentions the idea of a tribute album and Robyn says he's already got one (ours!) - -the dierdre o'donoghue interview (originally on fm and vinyl) - -the "e-town" where robyn mentions jbj's "house of figgy" site - -anything else rare and cool email me! now!! =b the lobsterman spoken word project: http://www5.palmnet.net/~mrrunion/wordtape.htm (very cool) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:32:43 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: New Feg on 7/18/01 12:50 PM, the other white meat at woj@smoe.org wrote: > my vote's "joey ramone clark". (my brother and his wife were seriously > considering that name (sans clark) for their latest spawn, but chickened > out at the last minute and settled on william reed.) You mean like the guy from Jesus And Mary Chain? > > woj > > n.p. tori amos -- "strange little girl" (the song, not the album) Actually, Tori is high on the list of possibilities... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:50:39 -0700 From: "Sirloin Stockade" Subject: the stars don't lie (from the 7/11/01 AVA) Great Moments in Public Radio AVA News service KZYX Morning Public Affairs, Monday, July 9, 2001. Regular host: Linda McClure; guest host: Amanda Bellerby; Guest Antonia Lamb. Bellerby: Are you there? Lamb: Yeah, just hangin' on the phone here. Doin' George Bush and Dick Cheney's charts. Bellerby: You are? Lamb: Yeah, it's a cheerful thought, but that's what I'm doing. Um, let me give you a little bit of astrological information here. Um, one of the things that was interesting about the election is that, that, that, that, um, George W. Bush, and, uh, AI Gore, both have early Leo rising and Bush and Gore, Bush and Gore both have early Leo rising, practically identical rising signs, and the feeling that they are in one sense, although they are very different in certain ways, they're just two parts of the same coin, is definitely supported by the astrology of the situation. However, issue with, with, with, with George W. is he's a cancerian, and he has the sun in 13 degrees of cancer in what they call the twelfth house of his chart, the shadow house. And then he's got Leo rising, uh, and moon in Libra, uh, his moon in Libra is surrounded by a combination of woundedness, and, and, um, ambition, and he's got this combination of a kind of an emptiness and a huge ambitious energy, and an extremely fortunate energy, uh, uh, the man has, uh, an extremely, uh, easy, and sort of, uh, um... Bellerby: A cushy life? Lamb: An easy life, yes, let's put it that way. And it's an, it's an ease that essentially... Please don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the fact that he has a soul and he's a being, but, but when I look at his chart, I see the possibility of him literally or figuratively being taken over by outside agencies that serve his ambition because what I see is that, um, it's, it's not really the... it's not the actual physical reality, it's the, uh, it's the, it's the movie that he's playing out that's really important to him and I... karmically speaking George Bush has a, kind of a karmic deal going down where his ambition to be, uh, prominent and important and, and, uh, uh, in one sense filled with selfish power is contrasted with another deep desire to be important in some kind of good way, however, he doesn't have what you'd call, the, the, the energetic, um, uh, capacity to fulfill that and that's where Dick Cheney comes in, awright? I look at Dick Cheney's chart and I see an incredibly... he's a very cold person but he's got a great deal of charm, he's an Aquarius with his moon in Pisces. Dick Cheney is, with Virgo rising, which is a combination that creates a combination of a very keen intelligence and ambition that is not so public as tied into the desire to control the actual situation and when you put Richard Cheney and George W. Bush's charts together, you come up with a composite chart that fulfills George W. Bush's external ambitions and Richard Cheney's internal ambitions almost perfectly, and what I would consider these ambitions to be would be the control of, ahmmm, the world, and, at, at least the nation, as a kind of personal part, OK? Sort of like Jim Page wrote a song about Bill Gates called My Private Xanadu? And, you know, I can do whatever I want in my own private Xanadu 'cause I have the money, and, uh, when I looked at the combination of Dick Cheney and George Bush's charts, I was reminded of a remark that, that I never... I don't watch television, because I don't have one. But I was over at a freind's house watching the debates, and, the one debate, and no one reported this line, but there was a period where, where Bush and gore were talking about the environment and, uh, gore had just made some fairly important point about the environment and there was a pause, and Bush smiled in that sly, sideways way he has. And, and looks sort of sideways at the audeince, and said, "Well, every day is Earth Day if you own the land." Bellerby: Goodness. Lamb: And that was never reported in any of the media. And, you know, it was like, for me, that was the most horrifying moment of the debates. Bellerby: Oooh, ho, ho, ho, ho... (Laughs) Lamb: Remember that people! This is Bush's true opinion. His little joke, "every day is Earth day if you own the land," and when I look at what's happening the interesting part of this is we just had this huge cosmic opening energetically, we're in the midst of a sort of, of a combination of an, of an obvious and non-obvious revolution right now, astrologically, uh... Bellerby: Can you tell us about that? Lamb: Well, we're... this is a summer of revolution, folks, and it's not so much a matter of, of ,uh making a big noise, as it is doing something real because planet Mars, okay, enters Sagittarius in February. And it's spending seven months going back and forth and Sagittarius, the sign of law, uh, politics, the rules, um, the religion, um, all of the official structures that we run our systems by, like Mars, has gone into Sagittarius where Pluto has been for quite a while. It's right in the middle of Sagittarius right now, and Mars and Pluto...okay? Mars, planet of power, Pluto planet of transformer die, also obsession, are moving in this dance, all right? And Sagittarius has just peaked in July and August. Coming this month and next month, Mars is pasuing and, and sitting right in the middle of Sagittarius next month... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:54:52 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: planet krikkit/gotta hatch these fegs out Mike Wells-- >"and the fridge is on to bowl to the Chesterfield" Wasn't it on a Chesterfield sofa that Ford and Arthur rode onto the Lord's playing field? Also, when the Beatles are going crazy during "Can't Buy Me Love" in "Hard Day's Night," is that on a cricket field? (I don't suppose the director of "Can't Buy Me Love" had the wit to have characters act crazy to the tune of "Hard Day's Night" ...) Tom CLark & jb jones-- More congratulations, to you & to the people who'll be doing the physical labor. Good luck with names. I had a much loved uncle James Ross and if my daughter had been a boy I was seriously thinking of naming him after my uncle, making him James Taylor. Hoping (in 1988) that by 2000-plus-ish no one would remember Mud Slide Slim. Wrong. Speaking of babies, I can't help thinking that some of Robyn's surrealism might stem from the fact that by the time he did Underwater Moonlight he had already dealt with one of these little mewling, puking pecks of meat. I always recommend the book "The First Twelve Months of Life" because it brings in all sorts or cool Science Facts about babies, like when they are likely to first notice their hands, etc. It quotes liberally from heavyweights like Piaget & Brazelton, but is easy to browse. Finding music-- I confess to spending many lunch hours at listening stations in Borders. Ours is a bit strong on techno, but that's OK. I don't *buy* there ... Hi Kay. They are inventing work for us to do in the summer, so I know what you mean. Ross Taylor "Shine On, Prodigal Son" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Re: the stars don't lie Bush smiled in that sly, sideways way he has. And, and looks sort of sideways at the audeince, and said, "Well, every day is Earth Day if you own the land." __ which debate was that? i'd have thought i'd have remembered that. it wouldn't surprise me, though... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:24:33 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Re: New Feg when we last left our heroes, Tom Clark exclaimed: >on 7/18/01 12:50 PM, the other white meat at woj@smoe.org wrote: >> my vote's "joey ramone clark". (my brother and his wife were seriously >> considering that name (sans clark) for their latest spawn, but chickened >> out at the last minute and settled on william reed.) > >You mean like the guy from Jesus And Mary Chain? don't think that was their intention and i think that william reid spells his surname differently. in any case, reed my nephew's the middle name. >> n.p. tori amos -- "strange little girl" (the song, not the album) > >Actually, Tori is high on the list of possibilities... victoria? or just tori? +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:58:13 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: grey At 01:52 PM 7/18/2001 -0700, Tom Clark wrote: >on 7/18/01 12:07 PM, Andrew D. Simchik at drew@stormgreen.com wrote: > > > Boom shanka! > > > > "Robyn" is perhaps too obvious a choice, but I think you must agree > > that "Robyn Clark" sounds pretty good. It certainly fits your criteria. > >I really like it, but I think too many people will roll their eyes. Plus, >we both knew someone named Robyn Clark and she eventually went schizo. Scratch that, then... >np: Julian Cope "Interpreter" Julianne Clark! Okay, I'll shut up. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:05:49 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Weaving with Old Threads >>See just about anything by Mike Leigh (including Topsy Turvy, which >was >>one of my favorite movies of last year). > >Hmmm-I think Jill's on vac so can anyone else rec some of this guy's films. >I loved Topsey Turvey. Leigh is all over the place with me. I guess you're bound to be uneven, when your films are so heavily based in improvisation. I really loved "Life is Sweet," and "Naked" is a *masterpiece*. Wow, what an unforgettable, haunting film. I enjoyed "Career Girls" a lot, too. "Secrets and Lies" got all the Oscar nominations, but it was a chore for me to sit through. Ditto for the deadly tedious "High Hopes." Haven't seen "Topsy Turvy" yet, but I will. A "new Feg"? I'm reminded of that old Monty Python line..."It's awfully early to start imposing roles on it, isn't it?" ;) Does anyone care to cast a vote for the most essential Ramones albums, *after* the first four? (Not counting compilations and live albums.) I got the Nuggets II box yesterday...it'll be awhile before I get through it, though. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:35:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Weaving with Old Threads On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Eb wrote: > I got the Nuggets II box yesterday...it'll be awhile before I get > through it, though. A question of laziness: How many discs/tracks are in that set? I went to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete-cds (or something similar) the other day and pulled down a bunch of good stuff. One thing I got was apparently disc 2 of the Nuggets II compilation. Starts with The Misunderstood - Children of the Sun and ends with The Creation - Biff! Bang! Pow! Anyway, I've only listened to a little, but I enjoyed it mostly well enough. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:02:14 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: 27 = old >> But anyway, I *did* go into a record store yesterday, and I *did* >> find something worthwhile; the PA was playing some very pleasing, >> acoustic, British-invasiony stuff, and I really found myself >> grooving on it. > >Last time that happened to me, it was Turin Brakes. I discovered Chumbawamba, after hearing Shh played in Tower Records one night. (This was pre-Tubthumper.) This might be the *only* group I've discovered, that way. Eb now ehhing: Cake/Comfort Eagle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:52:29 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #279 >>for that matter, why does the Husker Du album use the UKEnglish spelling >>"Candy Apple Grey"? I'm sure I've seen another prominent US indiesque band >>using UKEnglish spellings too, but my mind's turned to tapioca today. > >How about the Foo Fighters' "The Colour and the Shape"? that's the one I was trying to remember! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:02:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Cricket (no RH content), New Feg >Turned out that day there was a >Test Match that day of the English women against somebody or other - maybe >South Africa - so we went in. It was, and I mean this in the nicest way, >unremittingly dull. Seemed to be a very civil game, people were cheering >politely (though when nothing seemed to have changed in the field of >play)...but not being an aficionado all of the subtleties which I'm sure had >to be present were invisible to me. And it was slow. Really slow." unless you're completely mad about cricket, you should under no circumstances try to watch a test match! Even many cricket afficianados have trouble with the length and pace of those games. A good one-day international, though is paced slightly faster than your average baseball game. It's like the difference between watching a marathon and the 1500 metres. Still a long race, but much more excitement, much more worthwhile watching the whole thing. And yes, it was a ODI I was talking about yesterday - Sri Lanka beat NZ by 221 runs to 205. We should have more luck against India tomorrow night. congrats to Tom and Coleen! And to jbj, too, for that matter! >1) No alliteration - "Kathy Clark", "Christine Clark", etc... >2) Must be more than one syllable. a rule of thumb is four syllables in all - a one syllable surname gets a three syllable surname. Of course, if your surname has three syllables, a four syllable first name is also reasonable. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:09:27 -0700 From: "Motherfucking Asshole" Subject: holy wow! [X2] 1. just finished listening to the electric ballroom show. i'm thinking it's the best soft boys show i've ever heard, and tony b.'s recording is impeccable. 2. currently listening to the bicycle thieves. for the second time. dang, this is good! for you old-timers who've yet to procure the rhino reissues, i'm uploading scans of the cds as we speak. http://feedthefish.org/robyn/images/. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:41:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: unhatched feglings Congratulations Tom & Colleen, John & Jacci! John, do you have any girl names picked out? My favorites: Rose* Ruby Olive, Olivia (very trendy, alas) Mabel Lucy Robyn (sorry,couldn't resist) Maisie (ditto) Caroline (" ") Clair* or claire Sadie (pretty name, but I always think of "Sadie Mae Glutz," nickname for Manson killer Susan Atkins) Basically, all old-lady names. *my grandmother and grandfather's names, respectively. Carole ps: my mother didn't know that she was carrying twin girls when she was pregnant with us in 1970. Surprise! She thought we were one big boy, in which case our name would've been "Robert" or "Kendall" (the latter is my Dad's name). Ugh! So instead, my Mom gave me her first name. She used to joke about how she should've named us Wolfgang, however. "Wolfgang Reichstein!" I actually like how that sounds. Feral and scary! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:15:34 -0700 From: "Sirloin Stockade" Subject: can't stop nardwuar! Nardwuar: Oh my god it's Thor! Thor! How are you doing? Thor: Hail, Nardwuar, Rock Warrior! Nardwuar: Now, Thor, what exactly is Thor? What is Thor? Thor: Thor is thunderous music. Thor... is... me, Thor. Nardwuar: Thor! Thor: That's correct. Nardwuar: Thor, you were one of the first to merge weightlifting and rock 'n' roll. Please explain. Thor: Alright. It goes way back to the early '70s. I was a great admirer of Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, and when I used to train at Broadway Gym down the street here in Vancouver, I used to listen to Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, and used to pump up, man! That got me psyched up, so when I got psyched up, I said to myself, well why not combine rock with music, and wrestling, and thunderous music, and- Nardwuar: Body building! I mean, this is no small feat: you were Mr. USA and Mr. Canada?! Thor: That's right. Mr. USA and Mr. Canada and also Teenage Mr. Canada and I competed against Louie Ferrigno in Mr. Universe. Nardwuar: You were taught by Doug Hepburn. Who is Doug Hepburn? Thor: Alright, Doug Hepburn, in fact, we had offices just a block away from here, on Broadway, and Doug Hepburn at one time was the world's strongest man. He was one of Vancouver's greatest sons. Nardwuar: Which you emulated! Thor: That's right, and he showed me how to do a lot of strength feats and I incorporated them into my show. The thing is I was always into Kiss and Alice Cooper so I said why not put strength feats and other special effects into the show which goes along with heavy rock music which I'm into, and it's, you know, I came up with the name Thor because it's uh you know like thunder rock, thunderous music. Nardwuar: You are the God of Thunder! Thor: I don't, uh, say that I'm a god. What I'm saying is... Nardwuar: The Thunder God! Thor: (laughs) Nardwuar: You are Thor! Thor: The band is called... Thor! Nardwuar: Now those muscles, Thor, what exactly was "Body Rock" and "Three Hat Productions" here in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada where you began Thor? Thor: (laughs) Okay, Body Rock was actually the first name before Thor. Uh, and also we played shows with a group called, well they're now called Trooper, but they were called Applejack then, so everybody changes their name a little bit right but as far as Three Hats Productions, they were out of Toronto. And they were an affiliate of RCA Records, so we signed with Three Hats first, the production company, and then thus we went on to RCA for our first album, Keep the Dogs Away. Rrrrr! Nardwuar: Rrrrr! Thor: Rrrrr! (looking at Nardwuar's hat)Hey, Scottie! Nardwuar: Thor, you have one of the wildest, the greatest stage shows on earth, don't you? Thor: I feel it is one of the wildest and greatest stage shows and that includes Kiss, Alice Cooper, Nine Inch Nails, or what have you out there. Nardwuar: Take us back right now to the mid-'80s, you're still playing, you're going to be playing actually tonight as well, take us back to the mid-'80s, what happened on stage there? You rode onstage on a chariot, Ben Hur's chariot? Thor: That's right. Charlton Heston used that chariot in the movie 'Ben Hur'... I rode onstage with a chariot. We had incredible rock music. And at that time we had Mike Appel as the manager and he was , as you know, Bruce Springsteen's manager before that, so he helped put this whole wild show together and it was just way out there! Nardwuar: Well, specifically Thor, don't belittle yourself, this stage show you had: waterbottles, snakes, you bending steel, lifting people, please explain, dobermans! What's going on?! Thor: How did you know about the snakes? Nardwuar: I don't know. Just the snakes! Tell people a little bit about the Thor stage show, the 80s Thor stage show. Thor: All right. This is the, this is not just the 80s Thor stage show, but it went all through the 90s and now into the new millenium. What we have basically is as I said before heavy rock music and I've got to do something. When people come and pay their price down on a ticket right, they want to see a show and I fully believe in a show all the way, so when you go out there, you've got to give it everything you've got, so I've got lightning shields that shoot lightning, I've got beautiful girls on stage, I have- Nardwuar: Do you have hot water bottles? Do you still blow up the hot water bottle Thor? Thor: Yes, just to prove a point that I can still do it, I still blow up and explode hot water bottles, I bend steel bars, have bricks smashed on my chest, what have you. Nardwuar: Do you lift people with your neck? You lift people with your neck? Thor: I did do that, but one time I tried to lift up a 400 pound person, and rolled off the stage with them. So I don't that one so much anymore. Nardwuar: What about rocks and stuff? Aren't there like rocks that are smashed against your chest by like the Magic Hammer? Thor: That's (laughs)... you- Nardwuar: The Mystic Hammer! Thor: You know a lot about my checkered past! Nardwuar: Well you ARE the Thunder God, Thor! Thor: All right. Yes I do. Yes I have bricks smashed off my chest with a pneumatic drill and also sledge hammers. And I bend steel! Nardwuar: Who was Cherry Bomb and Pantera? Thor: Okay, uh, Cherry Bomb was in the 80's show, this very voluptuous woman, she was before Xena, and she was called in England to have the 'biggest bristols in rock!' Nardwuar: Baboom! Thor: Yes, vavoom! Nardwuar: And you are Thor. Blowing up water bottles and such, were there any problems? I understand there have been some bloopers or unfortunate incidences like some of the water bottle getting lodged into your throat? Has there been anything like that? Thor: Uh, that happened when I tried to blow up a truck tire. The truck tire air came back into me - you see I tried to get my tongue into the hole, right? Which I try to get a lot of practice on at, and the truck tire air came back in and almost killed me, right? But I've had a lot of problems. I've stepped into live flash pods and almost got elecrocuted. Things happen on stage, right? Nardwuar: What about having dogs on stage? Like dobermans? What's the deal on that? Dobermans! Like, did you step in any.... nggggeuughh! Thor: That happened. It also happened one time when I had the horse drawing the chariot. Nardwuar: The horse?! Thor: That's correct. We had a horse on stage drawing the chariot and he did his job on stage and I proceeded to slip in it, so you know things happen on stage. And it happened with dogs and it happened with the horse. That's why I don't have them on stage anymore. Nardwuar: Yeah like tonight. What are people going to see tonight? I was just wondering. I guess they're not going to see the horses. What exactly are they going to see tonight, Thor? What are you going to be wearing? Will we see any chest hair tonight at all, Thor? Thor: Uh, a few might sprout out there a little, you know, when I take the armour off. Nardwuar: You have a gold plated breast plate? Thor: I have all sorts of them. I have black, gold, silver. I have a whole wardrobe. Nardwuar: What are some of your favourite ones? Thor: Uh, one of my favourites is this Roman chest plate with this weird Phantom of the Opera face on it. So I may bring that out tonight. Nardwuar: (Nardwuar points to Thor's stage 'stuff') Now what are the props you have there? What are those things? Please explain. What are these? Thor: Oh this is my trusty axe for chopping heads. Nardwuar: This is Thor of course. You are Thor, Thunder God! Thor: And this is the Hammer of Thor! Behold the Hammer! Nardwuar: (Nardwuar further inspects Thor's Hammer) Now this thing, is this like the official Thor Thing? Like is this the official Thor stuff? Thor: I also have an array of hammers! This is my stone hammer. I have a bronze hammer, a metal hammer, a whole wardrobe full. All different attire. Nardwuar: Thor, are you still Britain's most popular heavy metal act? Thor: No I'm not. You know, you're up there for a while, then you go down- Nardwuar: Don't say that Thor! Thor: (laughs) I think they still like me in England, in fact we're looking forward to going back there soon. Nardwuar: How did you become Britain's heavy metal star? How did Thor become Britain's heavy metal star? Thor: Well, we uh had to do a number on Wasp, Twisted Sister, you know, a few of the other bands there, we just sort went into the store and broke all their records and put our records into stores. No, actually we had a couple of hits with "Thunder in the Tundra" and "Let the Blood Run Red" which is, what is great about the pop music scene in Britain where you can have a lot of diversity, where you can have a really heavy song and then you can have a pop tune up on the charts. Well anyhow, we were up there and the radio stations went, "'Let the Blood Run Red,' what is this?" They didn't know what it was, but hey it hit. It went to #1. Nardwuar: The charts! Like you made it to the charts in England! You're from Canada, let's not forget you're from Canada, Thor! Thor: Well I wrote "Thunder in the Tundra" which also was #1 in the rock charts over Van Halen, over Wasp, over Twisted Sister, and I wrote that while I was on the train, going through a snow storm from Prince George to Prince Rupert. Nardwuar: Canada rules! Thor: You got that right! Canada! Nardwuar: Did you ever go to Frank's Funny Farm while in England? Thor: You're right! I went to Frank's Funny Farm. How did you know about that? Nardwuar: What is Frank's Funny Farm, Thor? Thor: Frank's Funny Farm was a fantastic place in England and all the major rock stars used to go there and drink and after the shows and I saw Jimmy Page one time, he was in the corner there, had a little bit too much, and you never know who you- Nardwuar: What about Girlschool? Didn't you party with Girlschool? Thor: I sure did party with Girlschool, and many other female rock acts. Nardwuar: Thor, you were Mr. USA and Mr. Canada but you've also done some male stripping too Thor. 'Red Hot and Blue' in Las Vegas. Full nudie action, Thor, for the Thor fans? Thor: Yes, but I always included rock. (laughs) Nardwuar: But what happened there! Please! Please this is interesting! First a nudie musical. Stripping in Vegas? Please explain! Thor: Yes, yes, okay, but it was just basically showing a little buttocks. But the gladiators of old always showed their buttocks in battle. Nardwuar: Do a lot of weightlifters, I mean not yourself of course, have small..... Thor: No, they don't call me the Thunder God for nothing, or Thor's Hammer, you know. Nardwuar: Baboom! And you are Thor! Thunder God, Thor! Thor! Yeah! You've done a few movies. Thor: (Thor holds up his hammer. No not his 'real' hammer!) I stand erect. Nardwuar: You've done a few movies. Thor: I've done a few movies. Nardwuar: Please tell us about those movies. Thor: All right, they're fun movies, I produced and had the pleasure of starring in a movie with Adam 'Batman' West , uh Tia Carrere- Nardwuar: What movie was that? 'Zombie Nightmare'? Thor: 'Zombie Nightmare'. Nardwuar: Tell us a bit about that. You are chasing Tia Carrera! Thor: Yeah! Hot tamale, yeah no ,I had a wonderful time in that movie. I basically play a character called Tony Washington who gets run down by a car driven by a group of weird thugs. i proceed to come back as a zombie and kill them all off. Nardwuar: What other movies have you done? A Roger Corman movie, 'Recruits'? Thor: That's right. 'Recruits', with Lolita Davidowitch. It was produced by Roger Corman. Nardwuar: Thor, you also did 'Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare'. Thor: That was another nightmare. Yeah, I produced it. Nardwuar: Now in that movie you fight puppets. You were battling puppets at the end there. Thor: You weren't supposed to notice they were puppets. They were supposed to be real monsters. Nardwuar: Okay, you were battling monsters at the end. Thor: Yes. Beelzebub himself. Nardwuar: Thor! You are the Thunder God, a heavy metal king, but you have a lot of punk roots. Please explain. Punk roots! Thor: Actually, Thor started out as a punk band. Uh, back in the last 70s we were in Toronto and New York and hanging out with Debbie Harry and the Ramones and uh so we go back that far and I was influenced by all those. Nardwuar: And recently you were invited to play 25th anniversary of Punk Magazine in New York . Like that is a real great feat! Thor: Oh, man, I mean, well, John Holmstrom and I, you know we've been friends for a long time. He's a legend- Nardwuar: He's Punk Magazine! Thor: Punk Magazine! He's the guy really who got the word out about what's the scene in New York, about Blondie and Lou Reed and David Johansen and the New York Dolls. Nardwuar: Thor, has there ever been any competition with Thor? I mean, your show is amazing! There was the band Manowar. Did they ever pose a problem? Thor: Manowar was a cover band. When we played at the 25th anniversary of Punk Magazine at CBGB's I saw Ross the Boss there. He played with the Dictators, one of my favourite bands. Ross was also in Manowar. But I must say, we (Thor) had a great time on stage and uh it was great to see him again, but we blew him away! Nardwuar: What about Wasp? I heard you had a fight with Wasp once, Thor. I mean, you were the toughest, you are the meanest. Wasp, tell me about that! Thor: That's right. They had the song "F Like the Beast". We had "Thunder in the Tundra" we were jamming up the charts and then we did a concert at the Lyceum in England with Wasp and they were arguing about stage props and they said we couldn't have the pillars and I said, 'you guys can't have the buzz saw!' And so Blackie Lawless and I got into a little entanglement. Nardwuar: You started it all, didn't you? Did you start all the dog thing? Like there's Snoop Doggy Dogg, there's your song "Keep the Dogs Away", and now there's "Who Let the Dogs Out?" Rrroor! Rrrooorrrr!" What do you feel about that, Thor? Thor: Well it's interesting enough even though they are a Jamaican group (Baha Men), the guy who wrote "Who Let the Dogs Out?" was from Oshawa, Ontario, so I'll let you be the judge of that. Nardwuar: Do you have any dogs? Thor: I have a few dogs, yes. Nardwuar: What type of dogs? Thor: I have a Rottweiler, and a Doberman. Nardwuar: Well, thanks very much for your time, Thor. I really appreciate it. But I gotta ask you one thing: Where's the hair? Thor: Well we're in new times. This is a new vibe. A new feel. Gone are the long blonde locks. Because that's old hat. We're in a new millenium. The style of the rock star today is short hair, a goatee. Nardwuar: No no no! I want to get you to get those back from the Rock n' Rol Hall of Fame! Where are the Thor locks? Thor: The Thor locks have been lopped off man. Nardwuar: Thank you very much Thor. Anything else you would like to add to the people out there? Thor: Hey, keep rockin! Nardwuar: And doot doola doot doo.... Thor: To you! Nardwuar: Actually Thor. Doot doola doot doo... Thor: Behold the axe! (holds up axe) Nardwuar: Actually, Doot doola doot doo... Thor: Behold the hammer! (holds up hammer) Nardwuar: Actually, doot doola doot doo... Thor: Mask? (holds up mask) Nardwuar: Actually, doot doola doot doo... Thor: Dunt dunt. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #280 ********************************