From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #265 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 6 2001 Volume 10 : Number 265 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Proggy Cats ["brian nupp" ] GLTHO on DVD ["JH3" ] Re: idle musing on the 4th [The Great Quail ] Re: GLTHO on DVD ["brian nupp" ] Re: idle musing on the 4th ["JH3" ] Intersystems (early electronic) [Terrence Marks ] mew, mew, mew [gnat@shaft.bitmine.net] Yodelling Northwards ["Tigger Lily" ] say goodbye, it's independance day... ["ross taylor" ] Re: idle musing on the 4th [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Yodelling Northwards + RMAT [Eb ] patriotic songs/verlaines/cats [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: plunderphonics [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Proggy Cats ["Stewart C. Russell" ] patriots ["Walker, Charles" ] Nuggets-type stuff [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Nuggets-type stuff [Ken Weingold ] Re: Nuggets-type stuff [/dev/woj ] So what ELSE do you listen to? ["Poole, R. Edward" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 14:14:03 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Proggy Cats >Prog: >I bought the DVD of "Yessongs" because on cdnow.com it was listed as >"Yessongs - AC3" (AC-3 is the previous name of Dolby Digital). Turns out >the audio is only crappy stereo; it even sounds WORSE than the LP. I'm >sending it back. That sucks why can't they get it right the 1st time? I got my DVD Gotta Let This Hen Out last week. I dunno why I have no DVD player...yet! >Otto? Otto Parts??!! You got that right! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:38:50 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: GLTHO on DVD > ...I got my DVD Gotta Let > This Hen Out last week. I dunno why I have no > DVD player...yet! Because you don't really need one to be happy? I got my copy the other day, and having never seen it before, I guess I was expecting just straight live footage from beginning to end. In fact, it's more like a phantasmagoric exploration of cheesy early-80's video effects! I'd recommend it to just about anybody between 35 and 42 -- it felt like I was back in college again. Btw, based on Da9ve Stovall's description of the UK release, the "US release" is exactly the same. I should also mention that the footage for "Sounds Great When You're Dead" is especially recommended for fegs with an interest in dentistry. >> Otto? Otto Parts??!! > You got that right! Normally if someone did that in my place I'd punch his f___in' lights out... But kid, YOU'RE ALRIGHT! John "not a dentist, but I play one on TV" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 14:56:07 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: idle musing on the 4th Eb idly muses, >The bottom line: Can anyone name some good, contemporary, "patriotic" songs >(in reference to any country you like)? Off the top of my head, I can't >come up with even one. Good question! One of the problems here is the nuances in "patriotism." Can you sing about your love of the land and people while still criticizing the government? Is that patriotic? I think it's really hard to be completely patriotic these days without any irony. Having said that, I'd like to suggest David Byrne's "I Miss America," from "Feelings." It's cynical but still sort of heartfelt. Um, Neil Diamond's "They're Coming to America?" I think Patti Smith is a great American songwriter, I think some of her songs are patriotic is a weird way. She loves this country, and isn't afraid to expose its weaknesses, but she still is proud of some of the good things we've accomplished. Well, that's the impression I get, anyway. I guess that's not all that different from Woody Guthrie and Bob Dylan. And of course the Greatful Dead have a sort of irrepressible patriotism in a lot of their songs -- American flags are common at Dead shows. (Um, *were* common.) As far as other countries, there *has* to be some patriotic pop songs from the Scottish and Irish, no? - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:13:18 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: GLTHO on DVD >I should also mention that the footage for "Sounds Great >When You're Dead" is especially recommended for fegs with >an interest in dentistry. I think you mean the video for Surgery~! > >> Otto? Otto Parts??!! > > You got that right! > >Normally if someone did that in my place I'd punch his f___in' >lights out... But kid, YOU'RE ALRIGHT! > You'll find one in every car. You'll see. Brian "Feeling 7-up, I'm feeling 7-up. It's a crisp refreshing feeling..." Nupp PS I think I'll name my kid Seva. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 14:23:07 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: idle musing on the 4th > The bottom line: Can anyone name some good, contemporary, > "patriotic" songs (in reference to any country you like)? Off the > top of my head, I can't come up with even one. What, you didn't like the "Bob Roberts" soundtrack? Or "Lee Greenwood's Greatest Hits"? There's always "American Music" by the Violent Femmes, if you don't mind the occasional psychotic bits. I've never actually heard "Back in the USA" by Jonathan Richman, but somebody once told me that one was fairly patriotic... Perhaps this person was pulling my leg? To me, "Veins of the Queen" is sort of patriotic, in a vaguely wacky kinda way. I'll let you know if I think of any others! Also, Brian N. is right - it was indeed "Surgery." In my defense, I've only watched it once so far. John H. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:06:06 -0400 From: Terrence Marks Subject: Intersystems (early electronic) There was a Canadian electronic band from the early 70s/late 60s called Intersystems or something similar. Their second album was synthesizer noise/music with three similar-yet-different stories about a group of people needing something to eat and going hunting. Each of these stories ended with the same line. "It is over. The story is at it's end. The story has ended." or something similar. If any of you have it or can remember what that line was, I'd like to get the exact version. I had it written down, but lost the file. Thanks - -- Terrence Marks http://www.unlikeminerva.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 12:50:40 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: patriotic songs >- --On Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2001 16:20 Uhr -0700 Eb >wrote: > >> Can anyone name some good, contemporary, "patriotic" songs >> (in reference to any country you like)? > There are several by the Rheostatics in re Canada that I'd call patriotic - not in the 'my country 'tis of thee' blindly praising way of being patriotic, but in the 'tough love/great-country-but-here-are-some-fucked-up-things-about-it' way. Due to daftness, I can't dredge up any of the actual song titles right now (those brain cells think they have something better to do, I guess), but, heck, it's not like listening to the Rheostatics sucks or anything. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: gnat@shaft.bitmine.net Subject: mew, mew, mew >Cause its interesting? Cause its life? Cause Fegs like cats and words? >Cause its hard when a pet dies and involving yourself with a new one >helps, and writing about it helps? Cause some of us care? Or cause you >just -feel- like it:-). Yes, these are all applicable. :) The kitten came out from under the couch of her own accord last night. Exciting. "I stayed home on the 4th of July, and I pulled the shades so I didn't have to see the sky..." - the late, great Galaxie 500 n., who did not write a poem on a dog biscuit ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 20:58:44 -0000 From: "Tigger Lily" Subject: Yodelling Northwards Eb >Can anyone name some good, contemporary, "patriotic" songs >(in reference to any country you like)? Off the top of my head, I >can't >come up with even one. "Joy to the World" from the country of drunken bullfrogs(to which all really bad singers belong, and who if given enough "inspiration" happily bellow out this anthem:-) - --------------------- Ross: >It's(Frick) a great collection & great environment--used to be >someone's house, right? Yup, home of one of the more perfidious robber barons(think the Homestead stike at the Carnege works in Pittsburg.) Lovely limestone mansion with lots of damask or mahogany on the walls and a conservetory with a peacefully tinkeling fountain. A nice irony is that Frick relied on --I think Elsie de Wolfe for his acquisitions, and she was hand in glove(or rather foot in shoe considering the kickbacks)with Bernard Berenson who "authenticated" alot of the stuff. Anyway--one of the Holbeins and the Rembrandt of my youth have both been reduced to "the school of." Nice to see a cad get crooked himself -- thou they're still real nice pictures (especially The Polish Rider, Id say thats at least "workshop of".) I love small museums. The Sir John Solmes Museum near Bloombury in London is my idea of perfection. >we are in the deep space between The Tour and The New Album. Between The Tour and The Albumn ... falls the shawdow (apologies TS Eliot)--so -that- explains this eclipse feeling;-). Since Im leaving town and wouldnt have to field any answers Ill ask: even thou we --at least most of the time--listen to CDs--why do we still call them albums? Yodelling northwards Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 17:53:15 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: say goodbye, it's independance day... (good?) Patriotic songs-- Interesting puzzle. One problem is, for me "contemporary" means since 1955 or earlier. In the 80s Dylan had a song, "Neighborhood Bully" supposedly defending Israel. He had also done "Mozambique," but probably neither count since he wasn't really from either place. Neil Young's "Hawks & Doves?" or "Captain Kennedy" from the same albume? Or am I confusing patriotism with beligerance? Actually I think "Tears of Rage" is a very patriotic song. Which would lead into a thesis that many protest songs are patriotic. Which would lead into what's the point of nations, except for quaint regionalism, so can't you have patriotic songs about neat regions, like Johnathan Richman's "New England?" Actually, the whole lyrics to Yankee Doodle are sorta interesting. I take them as demonstrating that the US was founded on surrealist whimsy. The "stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni" line always makes me think of Groucho singing "one if by land, two if by sea/ with a hey nonny nonny and a hoo cha cha" in Duck Soup. The "keep it up" line sounds like our great tradition of cock rock. Plus in the full lyrics (below) they sound like a bunch of crazy bumpkins--pretty realistic. Also wasn't "a nation louder" a sonic youth album? I am appending the full lyrics w/ the idea this will help make the next digest spit out faster. Father and I went down to camp, Along with Captain Gooding; And there we saw the men and boys, As thick as hasty pudding. Yankee doodle, keep it up, Yankee doodle dandy; Mind the musie and the step, And with the girls be handy. There was Captain Washington Upon a slapping stallion, A-giving orders to his men, I guess there was a million. And then the feathers on his hat, They looked so' tarnal fin-a, I wanted pockily to get To give to my Jemima. And then we saw a swamping gun, Large as a log of maple; Upon a deuced little cart, A load for father's cattle. And every time they shoot it off, It takes a horn of powder; It makes a noise like father's gun, Only a nation louder. I went as nigh to one myself, As' Siah's underpinning; And father went as nigh agin, I thought the deuce was in him. We saw a little barrel, too, The heads were made of leather; They knocked upon it with little clubs, And called the folks together. And there they'd fife away like fun, And play on cornstalk fiddles, And some had ribbons red as blood, All bound around their middles. The troopers, too, would gallop up And fire right in our faces; It scared me almost to death To see them run such races. Uncle Sam came there to change Some pancakes and some onions, For' lasses cake to carry home To give his wife and young ones. But I can't tell half I see They kept up such a smother; So I took my hat off, made a bow, And scampered home to mother. Cousin Simon grew so bold, I thought he would have cocked it; It scared me so I streaked it off, And hung by father's pocket. And there I saw a pumpkin shell, As big as mother's basin; And every time they touched it off, They scampered like the nation. Yankee doodle, keep it up, Yankee doodle dandy; Mind the music and the step, And with the girls be handy I also like Waltzing Mathilda. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: idle musing on the 4th On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Eb wrote: > The bottom line: Can anyone name some good, contemporary, "patriotic" > songs (in reference to any country you like)? Off the top of my head, > I can't come up with even one. "Sleeping Giants" by The Chills? sort of lame, but not on account of its patriotism. that said, there are plenty of examples of civic pride extant, but you knew that. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 18:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: idle musing on the 4th On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: > that said, there are plenty of examples of civic pride extant, but you > knew that. sorry, i was thinking "civic" meant "of cities", which is what i meant. lots of people are proud of where they live, if you define 'where' narrowly enough. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 17:53:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Yodelling Northwards + RMAT The Uneaten Grape: >even thou we --at least most of the time--listen to CDs--why do we still call >them albums? Every so often, I see a comment like this. It always puzzles me, because I *never* thought "album" necessarily indicated 12" vinyl rather than CD or cassette. I mean, is there really anyone who would say he/she owned XXX "albums," meaning exclusively vinyl? "Record" and "LP" correspond closely to vinyl, but not "album." At least, from my perspective. - --- Hey, here's some silly news. The results of Rhino's recent RMAT quiz are now posted on the Rhino site. You input a name, and it shoots back the test score. I can't remember whether any other listers bothered to take the test this year, besides me. I scored 181 out of 305, which is almost exactly what I expected, based on previously skimming the answer key. That's lower than I scored in previous years, but this year's test was definitely a lot harder. I knew I got scorched in certain areas like Latin, hip-hop and country -- I didn't bother to "study" at all, and I probably should have. I also lost some precious minutes due to bad "pencilwork," which was the result of adapting to the on-location (rather than Internet) testing procedure. As a result, I couldn't go back and rethink any of the questions I left blank. Crap. That won't happen again, in the future. But, never mind my excuses. :) The overall winner scored 243.67 (25 or so points worse than the winning score in previous years, I think). The write-up on him says he works for ASCAP. Hrm. Lots of ringers taking that test -- me included, I suppose. The regional L.A. winner scored 219.67, much better than me. On the other hand, if I had instead taken the test in Las Vegas, Chicago, Dublin, London or Tokyo, I would've won. And good grief, the "Mexican Internet" winner scored a paltry *85*! I might not have bothered to post about this, except for one amusing, *on-topic* bit of news: The guy who did get the highest score (171) in Las Vegas is apparently none other than Cliff Malloy, friend of Glen Uber and ex-Feglist subscriber. That is, unless it's some other Cliff Malloy. Remember him, veterans? The guy with the creepy "mouse" fetish who couldn't stop drooling over girls in glasses? Funny, I don't recall any Lisa Loeb questions on the test. ;) In other news, that Brian Wilson tribute on TNT was mostly a big drag. I knew Matthew Sweet was performing, so I guess that I assumed the other guests would be reasonably "hip." But no...it was mostly mainstream codgers like Paul Simon, Elton John, Billy Joel and David Crosby. Not to mention Ricky Martin (gulp). Oddly enough, my favorite performance was Vince Gill singing "Surf's Up." Nice. I've never even heard a Gill album -- I always just think of him as "that guy who looks way too much like Desi Arnaz Jr." The worst? Probably the Wilson sisters from Heart singing "Good Vibrations"....arrgh. And Elton John simply has the wrong type of voice for "God Only Knows." No thank you. Some guests I would've liked to have seen, instead: Beck, Ben Folds, Bryan Ferry, Elliott Smith, Elvis Costello, Grandaddy, Jason Falkner, Mark Eitzel, Portishead, Quasi, Rufus Wainwright, Eels, Yo La Tengo, Spiritualized, Teenage Fanclub, the Flaming Lips, the High Llamas, the Jayhawks, the Minus 5, Olivia Tremor Control, the Posies, Tori Amos, the Velvet Crush...um.... Eb np: Brave Captain/Nothing Lives Long, He Sang, Only the Earth and Mountains (Thirsty Ear sure is putting out a lot of strong releases, lately) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:17:43 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: patriotic songs/verlaines/cats >It's always an aesthetic paradox to me, how it seems so much harder to >write a good "positive" song than a good "negative" one. There are plenty >of respected positive songs with sort of a "keeping a stiff upper lip in >the face of hardship" attitude, but there, the spectre of misery is still >prominent. Acclaimed songs with a pure "celebratory" vibe aren't so common, >especially in the present day. To me, that's the most interesting thing >about the huge acclaim for P J Harvey's last album -- she abruptly switched >to an upbeat tone, yet retained all her cred. Good for her. I myself had >some trouble getting used to this reversal, and thus took awhile to warm up >to the disc. > >But, I'm getting off on a tangent. I initially intended to address >"celebration," with regards to July 4th. > >The bottom line: Can anyone name some good, contemporary, "patriotic" songs >(in reference to any country you like)? Off the top of my head, I can't >come up with even one. I know what you mean about songs that are positive but sort of 'smiling through the agony' - one of my favourite songs (Aztec Camera's "Good Morning Britain" is like that). I think that part of the problem is that overt shows of patriotism are often seen as being very right-wing bordering on fascist and, well, very uncool because of that. Nsongs of national pride don't always show those sorts of conservative tendencies though. As to positive patriotic songs, how about: - - TMBG's "James K Polk" or a couple of examples from down here in NZ: - - Dave Dobbyn's "Shaky Isle" - - Shona Laing's "Aotearoa" and "Neutral and Nuclear Free" - - Dark Tower's "Real Zealman/Sons of the South" Ross mused: >I'm still trying to find out what happened to >the Verlaines, Verlaines, Verlaines, Verlaines >Verlaines, Verlaines, Verlai-ai-aines! with some of the band in Auckland and some at the other end of the country in Dunedin, they sort of went into storage. Then some of the band went overseas. Graeme Downes is back in Dunedin now, lecturing on modern music at Otago University. And he still occasionally shuffles onto the boards with guitar in hand. But the Verlaines themselves haven't been an operating band for some time. They reformed for a couple of gigs at a music festival in Dunedin last year, but that's about it. >Cat Names: best cat name I've heard recently is Velcro. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:21:27 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: plunderphonics >>If you're not familiar with plunderphonics, it sort of sounds >like tuning >>a radio at random, and serendipitously getting one songs patched >together. >>in reality of course, it's all samples cleverly stiched together. ah, so there's a name for that! First time I can remember hearing that was on Brian Eno's 1975 album "Taking Tiger Mountain (by Strategy)", between 'The true wheel' and 'China my China'. There are probably earlier examples, but I don't know of any James ("Ted Fisher, from Bristol") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 10:28:44 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Proggy Cats Tom Clark wrote: > > http://www.denisvengeance.com didn't Nostradamus say something about when cats have .coms, the world will end? If not, he should have done. > I bought the DVD of "Yessongs" because on cdnow.com it was listed as > "Yessongs - AC3" (AC-3 is the previous name of Dolby Digital). The recent digital remixing of classic Yes albums is ultra-ropey. It's as if they have a two bit (fig. and lit.) fader for stereo effects. > So far I've got over 7.5 days of music to shuffle. Syd foresaw this on "Piper": Too much, I won't touch you But then, I might. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 09:13:21 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: patriots > The bottom line: Can anyone name some good, > contemporary, "patriotic" songs (in reference > to any country you like)? Off the top of my > head, I can't come up with even one. And you won't. It ain't hip to be patriotic anymore. Not nearly enough cynicism in patriotism. No respectable songwriter has time for such silly notions. it aint hip but i've always thought that the song Born in the USA was a tight number, what ever you think of the Boss not withstanding - structurally and thematically. politics aside the emotion is there and i have always liked that. that and i find it odd that i heard that album playing as "mood music" while at an art opening in a posh gallery in LA once. i for one am tired of cynical posturing partly b/c i find it incredible easy - that and over analysis. well i've spent my 2c. chas in LA http://www.theweeklywalker.com issue #42 is here! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:53:22 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Nuggets-type stuff I just found some more Nuggets-type stuff which you can play back via RealPlay at http://www.sixtiesjukebox.co.uk/ Loads of nice stuff, I'm just playing Monkey Man by Baby Huey and the Baby Sitters - nothing to do with the similarly titled Motown number. They've got Diamond Hard Apples of the Moon by the Nice, which I haven't heard for years, some early Beefheart, Tintern Abbey, Soul Finger by the BarKays (whee!), the Misunderstood, plus lots of unknowns like Paul Bearer and the Hearsemen. They've also got 'Faster than light' by the Mirror, a forgotten Bath group who sound very influenced by the Monkees. I used to drink with Chris Warnett, their singer, but he moved to the States. Anyone ever heard of him? - - Mike Godwin PS Did someone have a recipe for downloading RealAudio files? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:58:51 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Nuggets-type stuff On Fri, Jul 6, 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > PS Did someone have a recipe for downloading RealAudio files? If they are under the Real Server, you can't AFAIK. The files are protected by a sort of wrapper, and in a non-web-accessible directory on the server. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:19:27 -0400 From: /dev/woj Subject: Re: Nuggets-type stuff when we last left our heroes, Michael R Godwin (hssmrg@bath.ac.uk) exclaimed: >PS Did someone have a recipe for downloading RealAudio files? couple possiblities: 1) buy real player plus and, if the real server has been configured to allow recording, you'll be able to save local copies of streamed realmedia. 2) there is a windows program called total recorder which creates a virtual sound device allowing you to record to wav any sound that plays through your sound card. i seem to recall this is a cheap program, maybe $15. 3) there is another windows program called streambox vcr which streams realmedia to a local file. trouble is, streambox was sued by real networks and forced to discontinue distribution. however, there are still copies of it and the crack floating around if you look. (you'll probably also want another streambox product called ripper which can convert realmedia files to wav or mp3; also discontinued and also available out and about on the net.) 4) the low-tech approach: loop your sound card's line-out to a cd/ minidisc/cassette deck and record the signal to your favorite media. alternatively, you could also loop line-out to line-in and record to wav using some audio recording app (i recommend cdwave). woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 16:04:37 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: So what ELSE do you listen to? The final pairings are in. Find your name on the list below, and contact the person with whom you are matched to exchange details (addresses, themes, etc). If I left someone out who thought they signed up -- or who want to sign up at this late date -- send me an email, and I'll find you a match (myself as default position). Any other procedural questions, feel free to contact me. 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