From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #259 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 29 2001 Volume 10 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Can't believe Eb didn't warn us about this [Eb ] RE: She wore a rasberry computer [Jason Miller ] Re: [none] ["Stewart C. Russell" ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] more reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: more reap ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Art! ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Probably mentioned already... [John McIntyre ] Re: [none] [bayard ] RE: [none] ["Poole, R. Edward" ] RHE June 14 1989 ["brian nupp" ] Crouching Moose, Hidden Trilobite [gnat@shaft.bitmine.net] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #258 [Viv Lyon ] attention CDR people ["Larry Tucker" ] The Mystery of the Farting Computer ["Tigger Lily" ] Limey Banter (3% RH) [Tom Clark ] eBay-> woj? [Mike Swedene ] Re: reap [Capuchin ] Pseudo-spam ["Sweet & Tender Hooligan" ] Re: eBay-> woj? [the other white meat ] encores -- puzzling out their existence [jill sunderlin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:36:31 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Can't believe Eb didn't warn us about this >As I type this, A&E is airing yet another 1-hour documentary >(it's their "City Confidential" series, actually) on the Claudine >Longet/Spider Sabich story, called "Aspen: Murder on the >Slopes." Damn! One of the producers of that show contacted me ages ago, when this episode was still being assembled, and he was supposed to get back to me with a specific air date and never did. So, thanks for the tip. Funny, because just during the past week or so, I've been casually thinking, "Hey...didn't that guy say that Longet episode would probably air in June?" I saw that program, once before...it's pretty cheesy. The narrator has this fruity, over-the-top voice which sounds like a cross between Orson Welles and the voiceover in Disneyland's "Haunted Mansion" ride. Kinda makes it hard to take the show seriously. :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:52:24 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #258 >RIP: Aleister, the best cat in the world. :((( very sorry to hear that. I can sympathise, especially after my loss of late last year. Cats provide love and warmth and company, and in return they stick their little claws in our hearts. They don't mean to hurt, but they do. >Oh Stewart--love your fake works, both hink and numpkin sound like what they >are/arent. honourable mentions go to the band "Hornets Attack Victor Mature", Cream's song "Badge" and, IIRC, the Alaskan city of Nome (which I believe was like Dord in origin) >As some of you "may" have noticed, theres something bout my brain which >regularly portmanteaus words. I guess theres no chance of my ever getting my >favorite "extravagate" (to exaggerate extravagently) into, oh say, a Collins >Dictionary ;-). I like making neologisms. My favourite is probably the term Vesuviate - to suddenly explode in a violent or angry outburst James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:04:02 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Can't believe Eb didn't warn us about this >I saw that program, once before...it's pretty cheesy. The narrator has this >fruity, over-the-top voice which sounds like a cross between Orson Welles >and the voiceover in Disneyland's "Haunted Mansion" ride. Kinda makes it >hard to take the show seriously. :) > >Eb That is Richard Ben Cramer, he is the author of What It Takes: The Way to the White House and Joe DiMaggio: The Hero's Life. He has also won a Pulitzer Prize for his work for The Philadelphia Inquirer in the middle east. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:13:23 -0500 From: steve Subject: Space Aliens Worried About Bush > "The alien and his people are disappointed with the job President Bush > has done so far," said Dr. Braton. "Their chief complaint is his handling > of environmental issues -- they feel he's made decisions that will turn > Earth into an uninhabitable wasteland. http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/aliens_story.cfm?instanceid=12068 - - Steve __________ Last week a federal grand jury indicted not a radical environmentalist, but Mark Warren Sands, a deeply religious marketing consultant and family man. Federal prosecutors said Mr. Sands, 50, had burned the houses for his own twisted reasons and had then fabricated the secret organization, Coalition to Save the Preserves, as camouflage. - James Sterngold, New York Times 06/23/01 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 04:41:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason Miller Subject: RE: She wore a rasberry computer Tigger Lily wrote: | Im sitting here, finishing my slightly longish screed and my computer | farts at me. Really. This is no weird flashback, I have witnesses. It | makes a noise which sounds like a longish, slightly wet fart. It stops, | then in a minute or two it does it again. And again. | | Actually--does anyone know what this is? Is one of -our- tech-support | having some fun? Is it some sort of short? It's a classic practical joke. I'm pretty sure I have a copy of the software somewhere, just not on me.... Anyway, it's either a Control Panel or an Extension. Find it and remove it. Of course, if the joker really knows their stuff, they've renamed the file to something innocuous which will make it really difficult to find. You don't have a copy of Conflict Catcher handy do you? Jason Miller ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:58:57 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: [none] James Dignan wrote: > > I suggest you hunt one of these sites for info: > > better lung-nibbling can be be found at http://www.ipl.org/, the Internet Public Library. I found at least three versions there. Stewart ps: "Re: [None]" as a subject reminds me of the blank page in Margaret Wise Brown's "Goodnight Moon" which says, "Goodnight, nobody." pps: Irony == {PizzaHut using TMBG's "Twisting" as the ad music for their 'twisted crust' pizzas. Don't they know it's about a girl wishing a boy were dead? Don't they know a much better track is only a little further on in the Flood album, "Minimum Wage"}? p^3s: Robyn's not touring, we're all recovering from listening to all those Soft Boys live recordings over and over and over, nothing interesting politically has happened (keep boycotting esso, though), there are few if any decent new music releases (notable exceptions from Radiohead and The Pernice Brothers) -- can you blame this list for lack of quality comment? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:01:50 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Jack Lemmon, at 76. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:02:51 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: more reap Joan Sims!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:26:23 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: more reap >From: "Stewart C. Russell >Joan Sims!!!!!!!! Pardon my ignorance, who is this? Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:16:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Art! > James Dignan: > Furthest I've travelled primarily to see an art exhibition (or more > precisely, timed a planned trip deliberately to coincide with an > exhibition) was for "Viva la Vida", an exhibition of paintings by Frida > Kahlo In my neck of the woods (San Antonio, Texas, USofA), Frido Kahlo prints are ubiquitous. But I actually did see quite a few of her originals a few months ago. She was quite a woman. Interestingly (here comes a segue to your side of the planet), at the same museum at the same time, I saw some *amazing* paintings made by Aboriginal artists, and I was floored. Swirling color, dynamic equilibrium, cultural relevance, sheer gorgeousness. It made me rethink everything I knew about modern American art, and how it had been influenced by the Europeans, which had been influenced by the Africans. Seems the Aboriginal peoples have been doing it all along and I never knew about it (after years of reading art history, too). Stella, Lichtenstein, even the OpArtists like Vasarely were all old hat compared to that stuff. >Tigger Lily: > Oh Stewart--love your fake works, both hink and numpkin sound like what they > are/arent. my fave real words lately: orrery, boustrophedonical, Jovilabe. > Do you play with visuals in anyway? Draw? Paint? Photograph? Sculpt (extra > points if its with toothpast;-)? mostly, i draw with words. poetry-like stuff. it's easier. i'm getting real close to picking up the old paints and brushes again, though. > Indeed, but I find if I go thru them, if I dive into them (meaning allow > myself to trance out using them as a focal point), into the depths of the > colors, there's an uncanny, unearthly light emanating out thru them (like the > canvas behind the color, white as death.) You've pretty much described what I feel when I lose myself in one of the big Pollock compositions. They're about everything and nothing at the same time. Order, chaos; dynamic, static; silence, dialog. And I love paintings which dialog with the museum and the other paintings around them. A Pollock will burn itself into your eyes and stay with you for quite a while, whether you're looking at a white wall or another painting. I'm also drawn into Ad Reinhardt's black paintings; I can spend hours lost in the tiniest difference between black and dark blue. I agree with Clement Greenberg's assertions and I love what the artists of that period did with that paradigm. The sublime interplay of the rudiments of painting always fascinate me, but so does the candlelight reflecting off of a steel helmet in a Rembrandt. But I rarely see other people truly transfixed by anything in museums. They're like malls; people just windowshop, gather around the Monets, and walk past everything else. That's part of the reason I love the Abstract Expressionist sections of museums -- they're always empty! I can have an entire Motherwell to myself for twenty minutes. > You -have- been to MOMA, havent you:-)? Nope, sadly, not yet. But I have been to the NY Guggenheim, and SFMOMA, and all of the Washington, DC, galleries. I'll only go to MOMA if I can dedicate an entire week to it, and that simply hasn't happened yet. Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:15:24 -0400 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: Probably mentioned already... "Blackman, Tony 1" wrote: > ...but if it was I must've missed it. > > Spotted Andy Metcalfe at No. 52 and Matthew Seligman at No. 74 in the "100 Bass Players of Rock" > > For comparison, Bill Wyman just makes it in at No. 100. What Tony missed is that the list is in alphabetical order. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Re: [none] > Stewart: > pps: Irony == {PizzaHut using TMBG's "Twisting" as the ad music for > their 'twisted crust' pizzas. Don't they know it's about a girl wishing > a boy were dead? Probably, but they're hoping the unwashed masses won't know, plus think of the savings over licensing "the twist"... > there are few if any decent new music releases (notable exceptions from > Radiohead and The Pernice Brothers) -- can you blame this list for lack You're the second person to mention the pernice brothers to me today. i got this: Dear Robert Lamb, We have noticed that many of our customers who have purchased "Underwater Moonlight . . . And How It Got There" also enjoy music by the Pernice Brothers. For this reason, you might like to know that the new CD by the Pernice Brothers, "World Won't End," has recently hit the shelves. You can order your copy by following the link below ... what's the link from the soft boys to the pernice brothers, d'you think? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:28:09 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: [none] > Stewart: > pps: Irony == {PizzaHut using TMBG's "Twisting" as the ad music for > their 'twisted crust' pizzas. Don't they know it's about a girl wishing > a boy were dead? Bayard: Probably, but they're hoping the unwashed masses won't know, plus think of the savings over licensing "the twist"... Along those lines, I laugh everytime I see a commercial for a certain consumer electronics firm that uses "Getting Better" by the Beatles -- but only the "I've got to admit it's getting better..." line. Gee, am I the only one who hears the "it can't get no worse..." echo in my head when I see these commercials? I mean, we're not talking about an obscure song here, people (with no offense intended to the Johns). ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:32:28 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: RHE June 14 1989 I was listening to a CDR of Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians from June 14 1989 (FM broadcast) I recently aquired... and they played Veins of the Queen. During this song there is a trumpet just like the one the on the album. Now when I saw them on this tour, just 10 days later in Cleveland, Poi Dog Pondering was playing with them and the trumpet player from PDP came out and played on this song. I have a recording from Detroit days later where "Dave" from PDP also plays on this song, but it sounds completely different. So I'm wondering if this is Dave from PDP on the 6.14.89 (or 14.6.89 depending where you live) or not. I remember Andy M. playing bits of a keyboard at the Cleveland show, so maybe he's stopped playing the bass to play the trumpet part, but it really sounds like a real trumpet on this disc. Did PDP tour with RHE the entire US Queen Elvis tour? Am I just trying to stir up some Robyn talk? Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: gnat@shaft.bitmine.net Subject: Crouching Moose, Hidden Trilobite >I'm confused. The desert sequence was all love story, and >relatively little "ass-kickin'". For that reason it was >my least favorite part. I shall clarify: "Screw the love story between Chow Yun-Fat and Michelle Yeoh, I wanted them to kick more ass!" (Jeez, Drew, you always want more clarification. Maybe I should send you special annotated versions of my posts. :) Yes, the movie was gorgeously filmed, had great music, and I liked seeing people fly around and stuff. (There's great "reviews" on IMDB where people say stuff like, "The movie was dumb, people can't fly!") It just didn't provide the emotional impact that it seemed to be striving for. I was supposed to be moved, and I wasn't. I would be happy to see other kung fu films if Steve Schiavo would be so kind as to recommend them, and if I had a television. Re. seeing art in real life, the one piece of art that I've seen, that can never really be captured in reproduction, is the Gaudi cathedral in Barcelona. Wow, is that amazing - like some sort of beautiful organic structure, a coral reef or something like that, and so much detail and care and love put into every inch of it. I made a vow to go back and see it when it's finished, but I'll probably be about 100 years old by that time. Orwell mentions the cathedral in "Homage to Catalonia." He says it's unbelievably hideous and he wishes the anarchists had bombed it. Now, I idolize Orwell, but this is going too far... n. p.s. Saw the first half of "Gormenghast" last night. Some characters perfect (Nannie Slagg, the Prunesquallors, the Countess, among others), others not so good. It looks very pretty for a relatively low budget production - nice costumes especially. The hot yet not very talented Jonathan Rhys Meyer (Steerpike) chews scenery till his teeth practically fall out, which is a drag. And I wish that Cora and Clarice actually looked remotely similar to each other! The script is pretty good, but not as good as it could be. Note to Mervyn Peake - pregnant women do not lactate, unless they are currently nursing another baby. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:06:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #258 On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, James Dignan wrote: > I like making neologisms. My favourite is probably the term Vesuviate - to > suddenly explode in a violent or angry outburst Oh wow. I wasn't going to post another of my dreams (I have a sneaking suspicion that most people are bored by my dream-recountings), but in my dream the other night, Mt. Vesuvius erupted! or should I say, Vesuviated. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 12:52:58 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: attention CDR people There's a lot of CDR recording people on these lists that may value this info. Go to the CDR media Faq on this retailer site. Then go to the CDR identifier link. This program will identify the type of CDR media you have and who manufactured it. Is that cool or what! There's a lot of other good info here on the best media types for longevity. http://xdr2.com/ This is *not* an endorsement of this retailer, I know nothing about them actually, but his some nice info to have just the same. - -Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:18:13 -0000 From: "Tigger Lily" Subject: The Mystery of the Farting Computer The Mystery of the Farting Computer Solved-- There was a beeper in the drawer just below the computer. I didnt know you could get farting beepers but it seems you can. It had been left in the dept. by a patron and the librarian before me had put it in the desk in case its owner came back to ask for it. I want to buy one. Such a product is perfect for begnign practical jokes. Im having a great time just thinking of some of the possibilities...;-) James, thanks for the art links. Interesting article on Hotere. Ken: Its going to get even worse than Rockstar Celebrity Urinal! I dont know when it will happen but Ill place good money on the likelyhood that within the next ten years we will see the sale of celebrity shit( thou at first only at charity fundraisers for ecologically-sound recycling programs.) In time it will replace the autograph as the perfect fan memento. It will even become an investment item, a way to diversify your portfolio. Think of what you could get for a bit of what was in the toilet when Elvis died. BTW--is -that- toilet on display? Wonder what it would go for on the open market. I mean, hey-- you just know Monica's going to sell the blue dress. Wait--I got it. (Is there a ideogram for a flashing lightbulb?) Celebrities will sell high price bits of themselves which fans will buy to ... clone. So you can grow your own idol in the bathtub, rather like in a Robyn story. But then what happens when youre thru with that phase? Youve moved on to the next sensation. But you still have this clone hanging around. Do you sell it? But what if there are no buyers, your clone is last weeks news? Would you encourage it to commit suicide, would there be a nice clean gas-chamber-like clone disposal unit or ... what if it ran away and became a Rogue Clone? Damn Im bored. Blackman: The only lists I ever really liked were the ones Spy Mag put out--where they would give you names and you had to guess the list's criteria. Does anyone still do lists like that now? Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 13:46:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Mystery of the Farting "Computer" >The Mystery of the Farting Computer Solved-- > >There was a beeper in the drawer just below the computer. >I didnt know you could get farting beepers but it seems you can. Egg, meet face. ;) Eb PS Awww...Jack Lemmon was one of the good ones. Not many of the old Hollywood legends still above-ground and visible, anymore. Lauren Bacall...um.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:15:34 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Limey Banter (3% RH) The wife and I watched "The Limey" last night. And as tired of Steven Soderbergh as I am, having just seen the way overrated "Traffic", I thought it was a decent flick; Terence Stamp was pretty great. Nevertheless, I was happy to have understood one of Stamp's cockney-isms before he even explained it. At one point he says "I'm going to have a butcher's around the place." Ding! I know that one! - -tc np - The White Stripes, "De Stijl" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:32:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: eBay-> woj? Who would have thunk it.... Unhatched Crablings for sale on eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1440916900 Herbie Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:27:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: reap On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jack Lemmon, at 76. Odd that he died almost exactly a year after Mathau. Incredibly sad that his last film had to be The Legend of Bagger Vance. Even more sad, I just finished watching that movie about twelve minutes ago. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:15:27 -0500 From: "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" Subject: Pseudo-spam For those interested, my band has posted 2 new mp3's from our forthcoming debut cd. If you find yourself with nothing better to do, stop by http://www.mp3.com/eonchamber and give 'em a listen. Okay. Enough shameless self-promotion. Back to your regularly scheduled chatting. :) paul c. glenn | pcg@runbox.com "I fought in a war and I didn't know where it would end It stretched before me infinitely, I couldn't really think Of the beyond now, keep your head down pal There's trouble plenty in this hour, this day I can see hope I can see light" -B&S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:23:55 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Re: eBay-> woj? when we last left our heroes, Mike Swedene exclaimed: >Unhatched Crablings for sale on eBay? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1440916900 i just looked and it's already been delisted. hath the mighty bayard struck again? pernice brothers: the guy in the record shop i go to as playing this the other day and it sounded pretty good. good enough to actually ask him who it was. i'm working with someone who is a kay clone. aiiiiee! woj n.w. gormenghast (have never read the books, though i've always meant to) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:17:35 -0400 From: jill sunderlin Subject: encores -- puzzling out their existence I've been doing a fair bit of long distance driving recently, and while listening to recordings of live shows this just really started to bother me. It seems like a very artificial convention -- and to take Robyn for an example -- he'll get to a certain part of the show and then say "We'll leave you with this." But you know what that means is that he'll be back out, perhaps wearing a different shirt, and work in to another set of songs. And then do the encore thing again and maybe again. How is it that this has become such a convention? I can't really figure out the point, except that it provides a transition and building into another set of music. Another starting point. With a group of classical musicians, they've already played their denoument. So when did the "encore" become an expected feature of a perfomance? And what perpetuates it.? It can't just be because people want to change their shirts. jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:58:17 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: encores -- puzzling out their existence >How is it that this has become such a convention? I can't really >figure out the point, except that it provides a transition and >building into another set of music. Another starting point. With a >group of classical musicians, they've already played their denoument. >So when did the "encore" become an expected feature of a perfomance? >And what perpetuates it.? It can't just be because people want to >change their shirts. > >jill I think it's really more a case of salesmanship. Give the audience the illusion that they are getting a bonus handfull of songs. George Clinton is famous for playing until the house dims the lights, I never fell for that one, "sorry, they are making us stop playing", like I'm going to say to people. "Yeah, P Funk played till they were booted from the stage". Great showmanship, I guess so, because people fall for it. Max (who likes encores and P Funk) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:33:04 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Per...NICE! > You're the second person to mention the pernice brothers to me > today. i got this: > Dear Robert Lamb, > We have noticed that many of our customers who have purchased > "Underwater Moonlight . . . And How It Got There" also enjoy music > by the Pernice Brothers. Is it possible that this is actually being caused by some sort of "sales spike" resulting from this album being the #1 pick in "Jack's Top 40" in the latest issue of The Big Takeover? After all, Jack rarely gets as enthusiastic about an album as he did about this one... You'd almost think it was a new Catherine Wheel record or something! (Supposedly my copy will arrive tomorrow -- I'll let you know how if it breaks my CD player or not.) Woj may chastise me if I don't mention that you can get subscription info at www.bigtakeover.com. The next issue is supposed to have a feature article on the Soft Boys, in fact. Woo hoo! John "overtaken?" Hedges ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #259 ********************************