From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #249 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, June 21 2001 Volume 10 : Number 249 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Leadership potential ["s.mary" ] RE: Woids woids woids ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: Talking English Choclate Mouthfull Blues [Tom Clark ] cale suggestions [Melissa Higuchi ] remove [JoeTekk ] RE: cale suggestions ["Bachman, Michael" ] our fearless leader [bayard ] Re: cale suggestions ["noe@shalev" ] Re: our fearless leader [Capuchin ] Re: Leadership potential [Stephen Mahoney ] Re: Militarymaniax! [Stephen Mahoney ] Re: inner rawk star [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: cale suggestions ["victorian squid" ] i wanna destroy you tab [the other white meat ] web stuff? [Mike Swedene ] Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan [steve ] Re: Talking English Choclate Mouthfull Blues [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:26:40 -0500 From: "s.mary" Subject: Leadership potential At 07:01 PM 6/20/2001 +0000, Tigger Lily wrote: >Scary Mary--what is this, the woman on Feg get all the monster generals >and the men all the heros. Grrr. Humbug. Off with Their Heads!;-) The site doesn't have anything too horrible to say about Bonaparte - in fact, they list what could be considered compliments: "Napoleon Bonaparte was one of the greatest military geniuses of all time and a colossal political figure." "Napoleon was a brilliant planner. In fact, he set up an entirely new system for raising an army that revolutionized the field. He was not only a great general but a skillful diplomat, able to consolidate and extend power through treaties and political manipulation as well as on the battlefield." Napoleon also "wore a black hat, et lots of chicken, and conquered half Europe." I guess military.com probably idolizes all military figures. Or did anyone get a leader with a non-flattering description? Also, as Chris "Squidly Didly" Gross asked: > > BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? > > Am I the only one who -liked- mine? >What was the URL for this? I must have missed it. I missed this URL as well, can someone repost? Thanks, S.Mary n.p. Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:49:27 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: Woids woids woids >>English is the garbage can of Western languages. >I love that. Its a perfect description. When I worked in our Language and >Literature Dept we would often get ESL people in who would tell us that >english is one of the hardest languages to learn I've had a fair number of roommates in college/grad school from various non-English speaking countries, and it has usually fallen to me to help them with English vocabulary. Idiomatic phrases were at least as big a stumbling block as simple vocabulary, especially (for some unknown reason) for my various Chinese roommates. I swore to myself to always help out, after hearing the brilliant and enduring-in-my-personal-mythos Da Yao attempting to express the idea that something had 'pissed him off': "Oh, that really beats me off!" da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:03:47 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Talking English Choclate Mouthfull Blues on 6/20/01 12:01 PM, Tigger Lily at theyarenotlong@hotmail.com wrote: > As for chocolate manhood, as a dessert and all-things-sweet connoisseur all > I can say is that it amazes me that no ones done this before. Its so > wonderfully obvious. > What we really need is some sort of kit whereby you can construct a mold > from your own manhood or womanhood and then use the mold to make > properly-formed choclates(buttercream filling optional:-). Just think if you > have to go on a trip or something and right before you leave you hand your > love some sugar to remember you by. Oh yeah :-). Well, here's a start: http://www.luvtoys.com/6601.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:10:23 -0500 From: "Mike wells" Subject: Re: theory action figures! Tasty. If they come up with an Arthur Peacocke or Douglas Hofstadter model I'm going for it. Michael who thinks "100% cruelty-free possum-fur testicle warmers" can't be far behind (p.i.) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Jane Jacobs" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: theory action figures! > My friend forwarded me this: > > > > Bruce Sterling wrote: > > > > > > http://www.theory.org.uk/action.htm > > > > > > *How have I lived this long without a Michel Foucault Action Figure? > > > > > > *A nettime write-in campaign might bring us the highly-collectible Geert > > > Lovink and Pit Schultz figures. Demand your consumer rights now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:14:13 -0000 From: Melissa Higuchi Subject: cale suggestions hey fegs, any suggestion as to what john cale cds or specific songs a robyn fan might like? i don't know much of his stuff but i do like buffalo ballet and hallelujah (of course). thank you melissa np: i smell winter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:27:01 -0700 From: JoeTekk Subject: remove remove ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:42:37 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: cale suggestions Melissa, Paris 1919 is the first John Cale cd to get. It's the only one I have, and I based the purschase on hearing a couple of the cuts on the radio and from the Trouser Press Record Guide. Michael - -----Original Message----- From: Melissa Higuchi [mailto:mel@scw.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:14 PM To: hot & stinky fresh Subject: cale suggestions hey fegs, any suggestion as to what john cale cds or specific songs a robyn fan might like? i don't know much of his stuff but i do like buffalo ballet and hallelujah (of course). thank you melissa np: i smell winter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:48:55 -0000 From: "Tigger Lily" Subject: "The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" Chris Teucumsah Gross: Didnt save URL for inner rawk star. Think Steve posted it originally. You know, I hope we two never fight cause it would end up pure scortched earth. Two little Hitlers, I mean Shermans;-) BTW--I hate you both, Quail and Melissa. You got who I want to be-- a gentleperson of action, daring and integrety. Cursees--I guess Ill just have to scorth earth both of you;-) I wonder why they didnt have Rommel as a choice? Ross--did you mention slang dictionaries. Mmmmmm slang dictionaries. I have to take notes as to correct spelling of publishers n stuff--but Ill get some slang dictionary info for you. Till then--old-fashioned as it is, still--have you ever dipped into any of Fowler's stuff. Yummy. In return--a copy of "Stormcock"??? Maybe? Mike Wells: >No, but I pulled "Ulysses S. Grant" That's just great. A heavy-drinking >opportunist, antisocial but >allegedly >brilliant in battle, became President but by many accounts was a >backstabbing credit-stealer who preyed on the success of others. >Great. >Just great. Besides, as well as all that lovely stuff, judging from the picture on the site, you get to resemble Russell Crowe. Wait, just reread your description. Scratch besides. Condolances. Michael Interesting hypothosis bout Gettysburgh. You may be right about that one. Still, in the long haul I dont see how the South could ever have won. The miracle was it took them so long to loose. Just plain lack of manpower, lack of infrastructure, lack of manufacturing capabilities. Plus the naval blockade. Plus, errr slavery was wrong and its time was up(I know--that dosnt count.) Kay, who still has all sorts of (dare I call it such) groovy war stuff from the Rev. Edward Lord, abolistionist clergyman in the medical corps and Chester Webster Lord, officer in the NY 110th Volunteers. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: gnat@shaft.bitmine.net Subject: general gnat I came out as Omar Bradley, who was described as "self-effacing," among other things. Gee - it's weird how they can tell my supposed "leadership style" just by having me answer four questions. gnat "why is this night different from all other nights?" the gnatster p.s. I saw "O Brother, Where Art Thou" last night and liked it a lot - it's slight and silly, but a hell of a lot better than the ham-fisted "Big Lebowski." All the acting was great (even George "My hair!" Clooney) and of course the music was wonderful. I liked John Tuturro the best. Nobody can glare like him. I had some quibbles about the film but I don't feel like going into them now... must work... p.p.s. Please note new e-mail address. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:49:42 +0100 From: Jonathan Turner Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope Insanely Jealous The new issue of Ptolemaic Terrascope (issue #30) includes the now traditional compilation CD. The CD includes a "demo version" of "Insanely Jealous." A quick listen suggests that this is the same take as the one that appeared on disc two of the Underwater Moonlight reissue. Probably of more interest is the review of Underwater Moonlight that appears in the same issue. Penned by Nigel Cross (yes, that one), it's actually more of a lengthy reminisce of the reviewer's time as a Soft Boys obsessive ("it was a bit of a one-side relationship") and is well worth reading. www.terrascope.org should have ordering details, and I guess may, in time, carry the review. There's a nice interview with Robyn on there anyway, so your journey won't be wasted. Inanely jellyous, Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:48:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Militarymaniax! Re: Mary's and Kay's comments, I'm sure military.com deliberately avoided offering Rommel and other Nazis. They also avoided conspicuously unsuccessful generals. Can't offend potential readers by comparing them to Nazis and incompetents! They must have come up with 16 possible leadership styles first and then picked, not the most typical, but the most flattering possible example of each. If Robert E. Lee and the Nazi Heinz Guderian both had your leadership style, which one would you rather be compared to? On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Tigger Lily wrote: > BTW--I hate you both, Quail and Melissa. You got who I want to be-- a > gentleperson of action, daring and integrety. Cursees--I guess Ill just have > to scorth earth both of you;-) Hey, don't feel too bad -- at least we won't launch foolhardy frontal assaults against strongly defended entrenchments, like the Lee types. (On the other hand, I might well oversleep on the morning of a carefully timed assault, like Stonewall Jackson did. Should that count as part of one's leadership style?) Michael, here's another reason being compared to Grant isn't so bad: his memoirs are considered a minor literary masterpiece. > Interesting hypothosis bout Gettysburgh. You may be right about that one. > Still, in the long haul I dont see how the South could ever have won. The > miracle was it took them so long to loose. Just plain lack of manpower, lack > of infrastructure, lack of manufacturing capabilities. Plus the naval > blockade. > Plus, errr slavery was wrong and its time was up(I know--that dosnt count.) Without getting into another long tedious Robynless historical discussion, I would argue that the South *could* have won. After all, they didn't have to conquer the North, they just had to convince the North to give up and recognize Southern independence. For example, in mid-1864 the war-weary Northern public looked ready to turn Lincoln out of office and elect a Democrat who'd stop fighting and let the South secede. And one critical event that helped reelect Lincoln was the timely capture of Atlanta by a Union army that just happened to be led by our boy William Tecumseh Sherman. - --Gen. Joseph Hooker ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: our fearless leader i got a laugh out of this today, so i thought i'd share. the email contained this text - whether it's really an AP story or not is anyone's guess. But if "doh" is news, this surely must be. (it's not yet documented at snopes.com, anyway.) >>President Bush reaches for his glass to toast Polish first lady Jolanta >>Kwasniewska, left, as she toasts first lady Laura Bush during a state >>dinner at the presidential palace with Polish President Aleksander >>Kwasniewski, in Warsaw, Poland, Friday, June 15, 2001. (AP Photo/Doug >>Mills) photo is here: http://www.bitmine.net/~bayard/miscellaneous/bush_europe_dsm129.jpg Jeme, your response? =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:14:31 +0200 From: "noe@shalev" Subject: Re: cale suggestions > Paris 1919 is the first John Cale cd to get. It's the only one I have, yet extreamly not a typical cale music. When I try to figure out why, it's cales only relaxed album. no tense whatsoever. if you like cale than you like cale than you like cale. this is true I checked it out as a cale collector. if you ask me, start up with Helen of Troy, or "honi soit" paris 1919 is somthing you can get as well, but it says nothing bout you loving or not loving cale. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: our fearless leader On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, bayard wrote: > photo is here: > > http://www.bitmine.net/~bayard/miscellaneous/bush_europe_dsm129.jpg > > Jeme, your response? First, why the hell are you asking me? Second, the direction a person is looking is often quite misleading in photos. I think it's a funny picture but could pretty easily be argued an illusion. Third, I'd've looked. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Leadership potential > Napoleon also "wore a black hat, et lots of chicken, and conquered half > Europe." I was john paul jones, whom until now I thought was just the bass player / keyboardist of the zep....guess there was another one. read in the paper today that someone thinks Mozart died from pork cutlets- somewhat uncooked ones, that is! mahoney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:22:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Militarymaniax! On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Christopher Gross wrote: They must have come up with 16 possible > leadership styles first and then picked, not the most typical, but the > most flattering possible example of each. makes sense mathematically arent there only 16 possible outcomes given and of course military.com would choose the 16 carefully ...biased!!! mahoney ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:25 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: inner rawk star >> BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? >> Am I the only one who -liked- mine? I missed that one... what was the URL? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:19:37 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: cale suggestions On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:14:31 noe@shalev wrote: >yet extreamly not a typical cale music. When I try to figure out why, it's >cales only relaxed album. no tense whatsoever. I agree, it's very atypical. I wouldn't quite say because there's no tension. There's dramatic tension. What's missing here is the anger, and to a large extent, the visceral anguish. This may be the only one where he doesn't let out any great groaning screams. Also, he's usually much darker and weirder than all but "Antarctica Starts Here" would tend to suggest. I think that's the reason that despite its brilliance, and despite the fact that the title song is one of my alltime favorites, this is not my favorite Cale album. I really think a more gothic emotional palette suits him better. I also think it's a misleading album to recommend to beginners -because- it's so different. Of course, what do I know, I have 11 Cale albums and didn't read any record guides before purchase ;). >if you like cale than you like cale than you like cale. this is true I >checked it out as a cale collector. Yes, that's true. Altho most people on the Cale mailing list (myself included) didn't care at all for "Walking on Locusts" and that silly eco-disaster opera thing he did with Bob Neuwirth ("Last Day on Earth"?). I'm personally also not a big fan of the Eno collaboration "Wrong Way Up", but it has its adherents. I'm thinking now maybe it's not as bad as I thought originally, and maybe I just disliked it so much because I expected a lot more from that much talent. >if you ask me, start up with Helen of Troy, or "honi soit" If one likes the darker side of Robyn, yes. The emotional intensity of "Helen of Troy" (and it's actually probably my fave too) may not be the best place to start, either. 'Helen of Troy" is one of those rare records that's just, I don't know how to describe it, but it's raw and it -bleeds- anguish and loneliness and fear. It's a bit like starting a Robyn fan off with "Eye" or recommending that someone start their Beatle listening with "Plastic Ono Band". But if you're the sort that likes to jump in the deep end first, then maybe it's the one for you. I'd say a good place to start would be the 1992 live album "Fragments of a Rainy Season". It's a pretty good retrospective of Cale's songwriting. No, some of the performances aren't as good as the records, but it is a lovely set and I think I may even prefer some to the studio incarnations ('specially the wrenching version of "Ballad of Cable Hogue" and the dramatic solo piano "Paris 1919"). It's a good mix of the melancholy and fearsome sides of Cale. If you like that, you could move on to the "Island Years" two disc set. Which is a bargain as it has "Fear", "Slow Dazzle" and "Helen of Troy", all of which are well worth owning, and comes with informative and well-written liner notes. loveonya, susan p.s. if you're interested in knowing where the sbs got the idea of gothing up "Heartbreak Hotel", check out the version on "Slow Dazzle". This version remains the most scariest :). Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:53:13 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: i wanna destroy you tab can anyone help this fellow out? make sure to cc your response to mtb@scmhlaw.com if you do answer (and i'm sure the list wouldn't mind seeing any responses as well). woj >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:38 -0400 >From: "Michael Bennett, Jr." >To: >Subject: great site > >I love your Soft Boys web site. I've been looking for guitar tab to I >Wanna Destroy You. Can you help me out? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:59:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: web stuff? Hey Fegs@! Apparently my provider of webspace wants to start charging me for keeping my boot list up there. Any suggestions for fav free hosting sight? Just curious. \ Herbie Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:02:26 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan >>> BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? >>> Am I the only one who -liked- mine? > > What was the URL for this? I must have missed it. You people really need to pay better attention - http://www.emode.com/tests/rockstar/auth/nonpt_reg.jsp If you add up all these little personality tests on the web will you end up with the equivalent of the MMPI? > Steve--I need to ask the bloody obvious. Who is Mr P? Andy Partridge, of course, who reliable sources report is back on good terms with a certain Mr. G. > Bruce Sterling wrote: > > *How have I lived this long without a Michel Foucault Action Figure? > > *A nettime write-in campaign might bring us the highly-collectible Geert > Lovink and Pit Schultz figures. Demand your consumer rights now. http://www.ctheory.com/event/e018.html http://www.dds.nl/~n5m/texts/schultz.htm Sterling rules, buy all his books. - - Steve __________ INTERNAL INDUSTRY documents obtained by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., suggest that in the mid-1990s oil companies had little interest in building new refineries because of low profit margins and, in fact, were discussing the need to curtail refinery output to boost profits. - MSNBC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:10:46 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Talking English Choclate Mouthfull Blues On Wednesday, June 20, 2001, at 02:01 PM, Tigger Lily wrote: > Just think if you have to go on a trip or something and right before you > leave you hand your love some sugar to remember you by. Oh yeah :-). Or perhaps a custom one of these - www.realdoll.com - - Steve __________ The feared constitutional crisis we so often heard about in that tense post-election period lay not in the political process spelled out in the Constitution for resolving conflicts and deadlocks in the presidential electoral process, but in the judicial intervention and displacement of that process. We had a constitutional crisis, and it was Bush v. Gore. - - David Kairys ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:53:32 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: March to the Sea with Diver Dan Steve: > Andy Partridge, of course, who reliable sources report is back on good > terms with a certain Mr. G. Well that's exciting news (not enough to make me re-sub to Chalkhills, but exciting nonetheless). Sources, links, details? +brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:25:04 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #247 >Errrr, disheartening military (not leadership!) link James. yeah, sorry. I just pass 'em on - I don't condone 'em. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:24:53 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Muvver tongue >This reminds me of something I notice often. English, though a >Germanic language, is heavily influenced by French. The following are >my observations, and not really based any fact, AFAIK. Take it for >what it's worth, though I have a BA in Linguistics and speak English >and Portuguese both with native fluency. It seems that there are a >lot of words in English which have a synonym based on a Latin >derivative, and vice versa with a German one. I noticed it more and >more after learning Portuguese, where there would be some word in it >that was obviously from Latin, and the translation was completely >different in English, a German-based word. Every once in a while I >would hear someone use a word in English in a more technical or formal >environment, or just I guess to be different, and it would be just >like the Portuguese/Latin translation, which I had never heard used >before in English. I always found that very interesting. A more >common example is something like 'build' and 'fabricate'. We use >'build' all the time, but how often do you hear someone talking about >fabricating something? 'fabricate' is very much Latin-based, and >'build' is from the German 'bilden'. If you want to see something >funny, have an English speaker explain the different in 'to do' and >'to make'. It is the same verb in Spanish (hacer) / Portuguese >(fazer). Most people wouldn't be able to do it without using the >words in their own definitions. Basically, 'to do' is to perform an >action, and 'to make' is to fabricate. perfectly true. Blame the Normans. After 1066, French-based words were seen as more posh, more high falutin', whatever. They were the words of the aristocracy. Because of that, we have near-synonymous (or not so near) pairs of 'low' and 'high' words in English, the high almost always being from the French: napkin/serviette; odds and ends/bric-a-brac; knowhow/savoir faire; happiness/joie de vivre; build/fabricate; newcomer/arriviste; go-between/entrepreneur... I recommend all Fegs read R. McCrumb's "The story of English" and Bill Bryson's "Mother Tongue". > (I use Robyn as a reference point for London--is that safe?) >Robyn, I believe, has an "estuary english" accent. I'd have said Home Counties (like my original accent), i.e., the ring of semi rural/semi urban counties surrounding London. Then again, there are quite a few London accents (at one time you could pretty near tell a person's suburb from their voice), from North London (do you yanks have Red Dwarf? If so, Holly) to East End (Billy Bragg) >papua new guinea >does have us beat in number of languages: >800-and-something >was in todays paper. >only 12 have been studied! PNG is still believed to be second to Australia, but in PNG's case there are languages as yet undiscovered by Western science. There are believed to have been 2000 languages in Australia, although 90% of them are extinct within the last couple of centuries. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:50:36 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Sources, links, details? On Wednesday, June 20, 2001, at 11:53 PM, Brian Huddell wrote: > Sources, links, details? I guess it's OK to repost this stuff, it is on the web at chalkhills.org - Start __________ Not to boast but rather to inform, I'd like to mention that I just returned from a nice week long jaunt to England during which time I had the pleasure of visiting Andy, Colin, Dave and Martin Newell (though not at the same time) as well as various other friends. I found myself in Wivenhoe, Essex last Friday night, just in time to attend and (hopefully) photographically document a book signing event Martin did in his local bookshop for his brand new autobiography "This Little Ziggy" (which I just read in it's entirety on the flight home). It's a great book. Well worth picking up. Martin also played me a few of his new songs which were wonderful too. He's looking fit as a fiddle . . . or should I say mandolin? Then I headed to Swindon and thereabouts to visit our fine fellows. Although I've known Andy for a long time, I hadn't set foot in his house since September of 1984 and hence had never been in The Shed. The era has ended. I did both. I was also very pleaseed to meet his kids Harry and Holly. Both are very talented and intelligent. Harry has some amazing cartooning skills and imagination and Holly is a singer in a cover band and an actress. The next day I found myself at Chez Moulding and inside Idea Studios. Colin lives out in the countryside a bit and the setting is just spectacular. Idea Studios is a modest little place. He and Andy were trying to finish off mixes of the last barrel scrapings for consideration as part of the boxed set. The deal is that if they provide everything to Virgin, once the boxed set is completed Virgin will then give them the complete rights to use any and all demos that are left over for Fuzzy Warbles and thus will end any ties to Virgin forever. I heard all sorts of oddities like a totally different single version of "Life Begins At The Hop" which was better left unreleased, a slower version of "Towers of London", and other countless numbers. The brand new finished version of "It Didn't Hurt a Bit" sounds excellent. Andy also played me lots of new mixed old demos for Fuzzy Warbles and most of them I had never heard before. A bunch of Mummer songs and earlier for example. Then I visited Dave who could not have been a more pleasant and accomodating host. We watched Mike Leigh's "Nuts in May" which is a personal favorite of his but I had never even heard of it. He was busy remixing his Remoulds material too. He looks great and he and Andy are on good terms again. Not to change the subject too much but all of the above gentlemen are big fans of John Shuttleworth and The League of Gentlemen. I may very well be the only person in the USA who loves Shuttleworth as much as they do. The mundanity and horrible songs are fantastic and hilarious. Dave showed me "500 Bust Stops" which I loved. A few weeks before I headed over there, Andy recommended The League of Gentlemen (not the Fripp/Barry Andrews album) and I managed to acquire the entire first season on a DVD. I just can't get enough of it and am dying to see the next two seasons of it. Andy and his son Harry were in pain trying to keep from giving away things that happen that I haven't seen yet. What do any of you Britishers think about this stuff? __________ End - - Steve __________ "Mr. Bush and his team are creating a brand of Republican 'gay' activism that threatens to further 'mainstream' a lifestyle that his Christian faith says is immoral. God does not approve of Republican homosexuality any more than Democratic homosexuality." - - Robert Knight, Culture and Family Institute (Concerned Women for America) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #249 ********************************