From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #248 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, June 20 2001 Volume 10 : Number 248 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: another silly sociographic survey ["matt sewell" ] Re: another silly sociographic survey [Michael R Godwin ] Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan [Christopher Gross ] Re: chocolate manhood ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re:words words words ["ross taylor" ] Re: Military Leaders ["Mike wells" ] Re: words words words [Ken Weingold ] Re: German... [stomachless bottom ] RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD [stomachless bottom ] Re: Military Leaders [Christopher Gross ] Re: German... [Ken Weingold ] Re:words words words [stomachless bottom ] Re:words words words [Michael R Godwin ] RE: ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: chocolate manhood ["Poole, R. Edward" ] theory action figures! [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] Re: another silly sociographic survey ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: another silly sociographic survey [Tom Clark ] Talking English Choclate Mouthfull Blues ["Tigger Lily" Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey The Morning Star is the commie paper... the Daily Star is a sailor's comic as my mother would sa and any fule would kno... Matt, now reading the Daily Mail supplement "Living Marxism"...! >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Reply-To: "Stewart C. Russell" >To: James Dignan >CC: Feggy pudding >Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:28:19 +0100 > >James Dignan wrote: > > > > well, we know you're mainly liberatian lefties > >I've just discovered that Curious George is a communist. If you've ever >bought Curious George Fruit Snacks, you'll see he's on a paperboy bike >delivering The Daily Star. > >The Daily Star is the newspaper of the UK communist party, as any fule >kno. > > Stewart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:23:52 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: German... > when we last left our heroes, Capuchin exclaimed: > >> For example, when you ask a person how they make their living, in English >> one says "What do you do?", in Spanish "Que (usted) hace?" and in German >> "Was macht Sie?" (see "Was tun Sie?", literally "What do you do?"). > > i am not (nor was) a german scholar but i believe "Was machen Sie?" means > something more like "what are you doing right now?" rather than "how do > you make your living?". If at all it'd be the other way round. But it all depends on the situation... > i think the german for that would be "Was haben > Sie fuer Arbeit?" or something along those lines. i'm sure seb can clear > this up for us. Well, as usual it's not so simple. There is a lot of regional variance. Both "Was tun Sie?" and "Was machen Sie?" are OK, although often you'd add "beruflich" (as a profession). However, when you're talking about somebody else "machen" would IMHO be preferable. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:40:04 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey > on 6/18/01 9:51 PM, James Dignan at grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > > well, we know you're mainly liberatian lefties, so here's one for y'all to > > try..."What's your leadership style?" > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > George Washington, thank you very much. Watch out, kids - I came out as General Patton! - - Mike "Lust for Glory" Godwin PS Who Wesley Clark? Sounds like a member of the Byrds to me :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:48:57 From: "Bradley Wood" Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD I ordered this from Amazon a couple months ago, but got annoyed when they would move back the shipping date every few days. I finally found a copy at a local store. The DVD is exactly the same as the VHS and does have the region 0, which my DVD player won't play. It "sort of" runs on my laptop (better than the tape did at least). No surprises, not a "must have" if you own the tape. Bradley _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:17:30 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey apparently G W is my style George Washington that is! K >From: "s.mary" >Reply-To: "s.mary" >To: >Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:24:23 -0500 > >My result was Napoleon Bonaparte. At least there's a Robyn connection! > >s.Mary > >At 04:55 PM 06/19/2001 -0700, Glen Uber wrote: > >on 6/18/01 9:51 PM, James Dignan hat geschrieben: > > > > > James "Wesley Clark" Dignan > > > >I, too, was "Wesley Clark". _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:27:52 -0000 From: Melissa Higuchi Subject: [none] anyone else get Robert E Lee? melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:38:20 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan on 6/19/01 12:51 PM, Tigger Lily at theyarenotlong@hotmail.com wrote: > Im appalled by my own inner-general(and I was just -one- last choice away > from that more civilized Wesley Clark.) I got him! > BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? > Am I the only one who -liked- mine? Mine was Beck. That's okay, I guess. - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:40:04 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: another preview on 6/19/01 1:46 PM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: [Mercury Rev] > The arrangements are just as superficially beautiful as on Deserter's > Songs, but I have the same major complaint: the lack of melodic > imagination. Every time a new track starts and I hear the opening line, I > just think "Well, that's a decent melodic phrase -- too bad the entire song > will be built around it, and I'll have to hear it 20 more times...." The > repetition makes me feel "impatient," rather than "caressed" as intended. I love it -- that's exactly how I felt about Deserter's Songs, but couldn't quite analyze the problem. Nail, head, bang! - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:51:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan > > BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? > > Am I the only one who -liked- mine? What was the URL for this? I must have missed it. - --Gen. William T. Sherman np: ohGr, "Sleep" ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:51:16 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Lee >anyone else get Robert E Lee? Yes, I did, Ma'am. Thank ye for kindly inquirin'. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:54:10 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: chocolate manhood At 05:09 PM 6/19/01 -0700, Glen Uber wrote: >Coincidentally (or ironically), the first Duran Duran album on which >Cuccurullo appeared was entitled _Big Thing_. Actually, he appeared on "Notorious" first. But don't tell anybody I knew that, and please please please don't ask about my high school years. He also said: > > James "Wesley Clark" Dignan > > >I, too, was "Wesley Clark". Me three. - --Jason, who didn't do the Inner Rock Star test, but bets it's Prince. "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:54:39 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re:words words words Jill-- >English is the garbage can of Western languages. Great phrase. You should copyleft this soon or somebody will make a ton of money off it. I've already tagged it as the title of a poem, a song and a piece of hypertext fiction. Ken W.-- I really wouldn't feel comfortable if there wasn't a linguist on the list. I had a couple of anthropological linguistics courses undergrad & forgot all the facts but kept the attitudes, i.e. "the limits of my language mean the limits of my world." We had a guest speaker once who spoke over a hundred languages fluently, but he kept forgetting which language he was speaking. I've got a slang dictionary, but it's a dissapointment. The Dictionary of Cliche's is some better. I wish there was a dictionary that dealt with phrases, like "drop the bomb." Sometimes people assemble small ones for articles on things like rap, but a big one for the whole culture and going back at least to WWII would seem like it would be popular. Languages are dying out, almost as fast as accents in English. I can still tell the difference between Memphis and rural east Tennessee, which is about as twangy as rural Virginia. North Carolina might be most famous, for Andy Griffith (it's what Jagger's doing on "Far Away Eyes"), with all its deeipthaongs (dipthongs). I can hear the difference between Irish, Scottish & British, and I hope to be able to differentiate more British types before they all become BBC. (I use Robyn as a reference point for London--is that safe?) Eb-- Persona might be my favorite film. It definitly influenced the way I see reality, i.e. sometimes there are brief cartoon inserts, sometimes I become aware of the camera crew. My leadership style: Captain John Yossarian Ross Taylor just paid full price for:Roy Harper anthology Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:03:54 -0500 From: "Mike wells" Subject: Re: Military Leaders No, but I pulled "Ulysses S. Grant" so I'm sure we'll meet soon. That's just great. A heavy-drinking opportunist, antisocial but allegedly brilliant in battle, became President but by many accounts was a backstabbing credit-stealer who preyed on the success of others. Great. Just great. Michael "look out Vicksburg" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Higuchi" To: "hot & stinky fresh" Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:27 AM > anyone else get Robert E Lee? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:05:19 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: words words words On Wed, Jun 20, 2001, ross taylor wrote: > I really wouldn't feel comfortable if there wasn't a linguist on the > list. I had a couple of anthropological linguistics courses > undergrad & forgot all the facts but kept the attitudes, i.e. "the > limits of my language mean the limits of my world." We had a guest > speaker once who spoke over a hundred languages fluently, but he > kept forgetting which language he was speaking. I WISH I could call myseld a linguist! Not sure how much credibility a BA in it gives me. :) > Languages are dying out, almost as fast as accents in English. I > can still tell the difference between Memphis and rural east > Tennessee, which is about as twangy as rural Virginia. North > Carolina might be most famous, for Andy Griffith (it's what Jagger's > doing on "Far Away Eyes"), with all its deeipthaongs (dipthongs). I > can hear the difference between Irish, Scottish & British, and I > hope to be able to differentiate more British types before they all > become BBC. (I use Robyn as a reference point for London--is that > safe?) You seriously think they are dying out? I think they are evolving. I guess kind of like seeing a chart of the evolution of humans. Language is totally social-dependent. I find it very exciting to see how they change. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:06:30 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: Re: German... when we last left our heroes, Sebastian Hagedorn exclaimed: >> i am not (nor was) a german scholar but i believe "Was machen Sie?" means >> something more like "what are you doing right now?" rather than "how do >> you make your living?". > >If at all it'd be the other way round. But it all depends on the >situation... huh. guess my german classes weren't as good as i thought! (i already knew my memory isn't....) >> i think the german for that would be "Was haben >> Sie fuer Arbeit?" or something along those lines. i'm sure seb can clear >> this up for us. > >Well, as usual it's not so simple. There is a lot of regional variance. >Both "Was tun Sie?" and "Was machen Sie?" are OK, although often you'd add >"beruflich" (as a profession). However, when you're talking about somebody >else "machen" would IMHO be preferable. thanks for the explanation. i'm not surprised that a) i'm wrong and b) it's situational. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:13:58 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD when we last left our heroes, Bradley Wood exclaimed: >I ordered this from Amazon a couple months ago, but got annoyed when they >would move back the shipping date every few days. I finally found a copy at >a local store. The DVD is exactly the same as the VHS and does have the >region 0, which my DVD player won't play. were you trying to order the one from amazon.co.uk or from amazon.com? can you post the details of the one you did purchase? is it a uk issue? i guess it remains to be seen if the "US domestic" one amazon.com and others are taking pre-orders for will be, as advertised, a region 1 disc or a region 0 one. when we last left our heroes, Motherfucking Asshole exclaimed: >why in god's name would anybody already owning the vhs want to own >the dvd? durability and completeness' sake, i guess. in my case, i have a vhs dub, so i'm happy to replace it with a dvd. >second question: did robyn approve this, or is it out of his purview? good question. i'll guess that it's out of his hands, but perhaps someone might want to ask him via the um.com feedback thingie and/or matthew? woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:30:44 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re:words words words Scottish, Irish and... English... we peoples of the British Isles (including Wales which you missed out) are British, but people from England are English. Robyn, I believe, has an "estuary english" accent. Over here if you have a middle or upper class accent, it pretty much gets in the way of a career in rocknroll, thus it has become necessary to learn a slightly more proletarian accent... see also Mick Jagger, John Peel, Nigel Kennedy, David Bowie and many more, including, I have to admit, me... Congratulations, though, Ross on your Roy Harper purchase... well worth it - I saw his 60th Birthday gig the other day and it was absolutely awesome... Cheers Matt >From: "ross taylor" >Reply-To: "ross taylor" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re:words words words >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:54:39 -0400 > >Jill-- > >English is the garbage can of Western languages. > >Great phrase. You should copyleft this soon >or somebody will make a ton of money off it. >I've already tagged it as the title of a poem, >a song and a piece of hypertext fiction. > >Ken W.-- >I really wouldn't feel comfortable if there >wasn't a linguist on the list. I had a couple >of anthropological linguistics courses undergrad >& forgot all the facts but kept the attitudes, >i.e. "the limits of my language mean the limits >of my world." We had a guest speaker once who >spoke over a hundred languages fluently, but he >kept forgetting which language he was speaking. > >I've got a slang dictionary, but it's a >dissapointment. The Dictionary of Cliche's is >some better. I wish there was a dictionary that >dealt with phrases, like "drop the bomb." >Sometimes people assemble small ones for >articles on things like rap, but a big one for >the whole culture and going back at least to >WWII would seem like it would be popular. > >Languages are dying out, almost as fast as >accents in English. I can still tell the >difference between Memphis and rural east >Tennessee, which is about as twangy as rural >Virginia. North Carolina might be most famous, >for Andy Griffith (it's what Jagger's doing on >"Far Away Eyes"), with all its deeipthaongs >(dipthongs). I can hear the difference between >Irish, Scottish & British, and I hope to be >able to differentiate more British types before >they all become BBC. (I use Robyn as a reference >point for London--is that safe?) > >Eb-- >Persona might be my favorite film. It definitly >influenced the way I see reality, i.e. sometimes >there are brief cartoon inserts, sometimes I >become aware of the camera crew. > >My leadership style: Captain John Yossarian > >Ross Taylor >just paid full price for:Roy Harper anthology > > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:38:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Military Leaders On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Mike wells wrote: > No, but I pulled "Ulysses S. Grant" so I'm sure we'll meet soon. > > That's just great. A heavy-drinking opportunist, antisocial but allegedly > brilliant in battle, became President but by many accounts was a > backstabbing credit-stealer who preyed on the success of others. Great. Just > great. If it makes you feel any better, the above is not the consensus view of most historians (except for the heavy-drinking part; but even there, note that he mostly stayed off the sauce during wartime). - --Admiral Byng ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:39:10 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: German... On Wed, Jun 20, 2001, stomachless bottom wrote: > >If at all it'd be the other way round. But it all depends on the > >situation... > thanks for the explanation. i'm not surprised that a) i'm wrong and b) it's > situational. There's the difference between learning a language in a natural environment and a class. In a writing class I took in Brazil, my teacher handed a paper back to me saying that it was too colloquial, that I wrote like people speak. I took it as a compliment. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:41:19 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: Re:words words words when we last left our heroes, matt sewell exclaimed: >Congratulations, though, Ross on your Roy Harper purchase... well worth >it - I saw his 60th Birthday gig the other day and it was absolutely >awesome... damn you sewell! i would have liked to be there...but it just wasn't possible to make it over. incidentally, according to reports on stormcock (the harpic mailing list), robyn was spotted in the vicinity of rfh the night of roy's birthday bash...but no word as to whether or not he actually attended. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:50:36 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re:words words words On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, ross taylor wrote: > I can still tell the difference between Memphis and rural east > Tennessee, which is about as twangy as rural Virginia. North Carolina > might be most famous, for Andy Griffith (it's what Jagger's doing on > "Far Away Eyes"), with all its deeipthaongs (dipthongs). I can hear > the difference between Irish, Scottish & British, and I hope to be > able to differentiate more British types before they all become BBC. > (I use Robyn as a reference point for London--is that safe?) Dangerous stuff, Ross. The Scots are still British following the weak showing of the SNP in the elections - I think you mean English. And the Irish are either fanatically non-British or the reverse, depending. I'd say that Robyn was a bit too upper-middle to be straight London. Damon Albarn is probably a safer choice (or Joe Brown for people of a certain age). Or Emma Bunton. I saw the original film of Pygmalion the other day on TV, with Leslie Howard claiming to be able to identify London accents to within a street or two. Nice stuff, although the print was pretty fuzzy. - - Mike "stained, glaucous, glycerine, gold, goat, clover, gold, local, stocks, type, food, wild, national, lake, flag, valve, gyroscope, sect, heat, helium, lead, bare, state, invention, medieval, refraction, faction, ultra-action, hunter, interest, bullet, market" Godwin PS Currently reading a triffic book on Indo-European language origins. I think he's going to go for the classic Caucasus-Caspian area but I haven't got to the end yet. He's really savage about Colin Renfrew's Anatolian hypothesis... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:09:48 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Melissa, I got Robert E Lee as well. I believe that the South would have won the Battle of Gettysburg, had not Stonewall Jackson been killed at the previous Battle at Chancellorsville. Lee and Jackson made a great team that would have resulted in a 1 or 2 day victory at Gettysburg, instead of a 3 day defeat. The South might have been able to achieve independence after an impressive win at Gettysburg, if the result was England supporting the South. As it happened, Jackson was killed by his own men by mistake, Lee replaced Jackson with a couple of tenative corp comanders, one of which didn't press the South's advantage durring the first day at Gettysburg like Jackson would have, and the South lost. Michael - -----Original Message----- From: Melissa Higuchi [mailto:mel@scw.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:28 AM To: hot & stinky fresh Subject: anyone else get Robert E Lee? melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:01:19 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: chocolate manhood "hey, I'll buy you a pizza . . . of course I'll introduce you to Warren . . ." 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:18:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: theory action figures! My friend forwarded me this: > Bruce Sterling wrote: > > > > http://www.theory.org.uk/action.htm > > > > *How have I lived this long without a Michel Foucault Action Figure? > > > > *A nettime write-in campaign might bring us the highly-collectible Geert > > Lovink and Pit Schultz figures. Demand your consumer rights now. > > > > bruces > > > > # distributed via : no commercial use without permission > > # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:15:11 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey matt sewell wrote: > > The Morning Star is the commie paper... the Daily Star is a sailor's > comic as my mother would sa and any fule would kno... Gah! What was I thinking? Sorry, been stuck in a jury room with 14 other jurors and too many tabloid papers over the last two weeks. CG delivers The Morning Star, the CPGB paper. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:09:34 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: words words words Jill Brand wrote: > > Kay is right, Stewart. English has the largest vocabulary of any language > here on earth. Hmm, I'd still dispute that. I remember reading the Arabic statement somewhere fairly reputable -- it might have been that Arabic requires the largest *active* vocabulary of any language. I'll study on it. While the OED may have half a million words, it's a historical dictionary containing many archaic or arcane terms. No-one would consider that those words are a part of everyday English. > "According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of > about 185,000 words..." I think these stats are slightly anglophilic, as one might expect from a book whose central theme would appear to show that English is top dog due to its mongrel ancestry. Many ENS linguists say that in a highly compounded language, such as German, the compound words are not new words, but merely the originals joined. Thus to them, "zeitgeist" is not a new vocabulary word if you know both "zeit" and "geist". This isn't borne out from my experience of maintaining large corpora. For a fixed size word index (essentially, the corpus's vocabulary), I can store many more words of English than I can of German. We have millions upon millions of German compounds; all valid, all distinct -- is this not a vocabulary? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:45:15 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey on 6/20/01 8:15 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@enterprise.net wrote: > CG delivers The Morning Star, the CPGB paper. And Apu delivers The Evening Star in "Oh, Streetcar! (The Musical)" Marge Simpson (as Stella): "Come here. I want to kiss you just once." Apu (Singing): "I am just a simple paper boy, no romance do I seek. I just wanted forty cents for my deliveries last week. Will this bewitching floozy Seduce this humble newsie? Oh, what' a paper boy to doooooooo?" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:54:10 -0500 From: "Mike wells" Subject: Re: chocolate manhood - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poole, R. Edward" To: "Conewatch (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: RE: chocolate manhood > "hey, I'll buy you a pizza . . . of course I'll introduce you to Warren . . > ." > > I know I'm not the only one who gets this. Cheers for remembering that. ================================= The boys in the crew Are only waiting for you At this point, the road crew, as all road crews must from time to time, borrow some of the big rock group's equipment and have a blues jam session, indicating to the kneeling maidens that they are endowed with a great deal of raw talent, as well as massive meat. Obviously impressed with LARRY'S ability to suck so hard on his harmonica that screeching little noises come out of it, MARY kneels again and reaches upward in gestures of supplication, listening intently as LARRY continues to sing... ================================= Michael "kinda young, kinda WOW" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:01:28 -0000 From: "Tigger Lily" Subject: Talking English Choclate Mouthfull Blues Somehow--maybe the words words words influence--this last digest had some really nice pieces of writing in it. We are -such- a literate bunch:-). Jill: >English is the garbage can of Western languages. I love that. Its a perfect description. When I worked in our Language and Literature Dept we would often get ESL people in who would tell us that english is one of the hardest languages to learn(OK Stewart, Japanese is harder;-). Jill, youre sweeping statements all sound right to me. It also looks like english is becoming the international language, especially for tech and science(Ha! we finially beat the germans:-)! I wouldnt be suprised if english ends up working and then mutating like Latin--a world-language which in times breaks down into related thou distinct languages--(sorta like present-day Australian;-). Ken pointed out bout how we usually have -at least- 2 words for almost anything, one germanic, one latinate(and Id say 5 including slang.) That gives english a wealth of sounds from which we can choose to encase our thoughts, moods, whimseys . One of the great cliched saws is that just as Italians are great at operas and Russians at long novels the english-speaking union has always excelled at poetry. And, may I hazard its related popular form --song-lyrics--(Robyn content! I got in Robyn content!) All that choice allows for the best, most nuanced fit tween content and expression. More Ken: >Good thing a lot of the >words(german) are similar-looking enough, except that they are all > >combined into one huge one! :) I dontknowwhy, but that alwayscracksmeup! Eb: >The repetition makes me feel "impatient," rather than "caressed" as > >intended. While I know less than nothing bout the band you are describing, that description is what good writing is all about. I know exactly what you're talking about but before you said it I didnt know I knew it. It was a vague feeling experienced as discomfort when I listened to certian stuff. Now I can articulate where that discomfort derives from. Thankee. I can now be an even bigger pain in the ass when putting down music I dont like;-). Or bad sex. Its been several lifetimes since Ive seen "Persona" but damn its an intense movie. I think when I was was in my Bergman phase it along with "The Magician" were my two favorites. As for chocolate manhood, as a dessert and all-things-sweet connoisseur all I can say is that it amazes me that no ones done this before. Its so wonderfully obvious. What we really need is some sort of kit whereby you can construct a mold from your own manhood or womanhood and then use the mold to make properly-formed choclates(buttercream filling optional:-). Just think if you have to go on a trip or something and right before you leave you hand your love some sugar to remember you by. Oh yeah :-). James: >did you use a search engine to find this? If so, what keywords did >you >use??? What keyword do you think Id use? Possum of course! Alas no--I pulled it off of www.Plastic.com which has a whole section of tremendously-important ground-breaking sexual news stories as supplied by Nerve. Hmmm-wonder if chocolate-manhood is on there yet? Scary Mary--what is this, the woman on Feg get all the monster generals and the men all the heros. Grrr. Humbug. Off with Their Heads!;-) Steve--I need to ask the bloody obvious. Who is Mr P? Kay, of little french and less latin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #248 ********************************