From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #247 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, June 20 2001 Volume 10 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- words words words [Jill Brand ] RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: words words words [Ken Weingold ] RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD [Capuchin ] Re: words words words [Capuchin ] Re: words words words [Ken Weingold ] Re: another silly sociographic survey ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD [stomachless bottom ] Re: Sharkboy in Portland... [stomachless bottom ] RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD ["brian nupp" ] March to the Sea with Diver Dan ["Tigger Lily" ] another preview [Eb ] chocolate manhood ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: another silly sociographic survey ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: chocolate manhood [Glen Uber ] language in our lungs [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: another silly sociographic survey ["s.mary" ] Re: another silly sociographic survey [Tom Clark ] Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: words words words [Stephen Mahoney ] RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD [Motherfucking Asshole Subject: words words words I read this interchange not 10 minutes ago: Tigger Lily wrote: > > We have (I think?) one of the largest vocabs of any language by alot Sorry, but I think that Arabic whups our sorry Anglo asses by miles. Stewart Kay is right, Stewart. English has the largest vocabulary of any language here on earth. Arabic has many more dialects, and Arabic speakers from the far reaches of its domain often can't understand each other. The following is a bit out of date (1986), but I doubt the information has changed substantially. It is from The Story of English (McCrum, Cran, and MacNeil). "The statistics of English are astonishing. Of all the world's languages (which now number some 2700), it is arguably the richest in vocabulary. The compendious Oxford English Dictionary lists about 500,000 words; and a further half million technical and scientific terms remain uncatalogued. According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of about 185,000 words and French fewer than 100,000, including such Franglais as le snacque-barre and le hit-parade...." English is the garbage can of Western languages. Every invasion of the British isles brought something new, and words sometimes entered the language twice, and were given different meanings. For example, "shirt" is of Anglo-Saxon origin whereas as "skirt" (scyrt) came from the Vikings. Both had the same meaning (something like a toga) when they started out, but received different meanings later (same with "shriek" and "screech"). There is hardly any Gallic (Celtic) left in English, but it's there. Before the 19th century, there was civilian Latin from the Romans, church Latin from the missionaries, Greek from the sciences, Anglo-Saxon, Danish, Norman French, Central French....and the British had tons of Indian words. Now, there are even more influences because of immigration (in the States, we have mounds of Spanish in English). Our grammar and everyday vocabulary is Germanic; our high-fallutin' words are Latinate and Greco. I often offer my condolences and admiration to my students, who are struggling with this gargantuan mess. This was off the top of my head, so I apologize for any sweeping statements with which you may disagree. Jill, who thinks Robyn uses his English very well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:51:19 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD I got mine several weeks ago through Amazon.co.uk. Their description listed it as a Region 2 DVD (which wouldn't matter to me - I ave an Apex AD-600A player which lets me switch regions), but when it came, it was actually Region "0" - regionless. Plays fine (well, within the limitations of my hardware) on my laptop, though I haven't watched it all the way through yet. I'd be interested in knowing if the "American" version is also Region 0. cheers, da9ve >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:11:52 -0400 >From: "brian nupp" >Subject: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD > >I just preordered my copy from Amazon for $18.67. If any feg is planning on >buying this, email me today (soon), cause I have a 10% off coupon on the DVD >I can send you. It's being released 1 week from today. > >Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:13:28 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: words words words On Tue, Jun 19, 2001, Jill Brand wrote: > English is the garbage can of Western languages. Every invasion of > the British isles brought something new, and words sometimes entered > the language twice, and were given different meanings. For example, > "shirt" is of Anglo-Saxon origin whereas as "skirt" (scyrt) came > from the Vikings. Both had the same meaning (something like a toga) > when they started out, but received different meanings later (same > with "shriek" and "screech"). There is hardly any Gallic (Celtic) > left in English, but it's there. Before the 19th century, there was > civilian Latin from the Romans, church Latin from the missionaries, > Greek from the sciences, Anglo-Saxon, Danish, Norman French, Central > French....and the British had tons of Indian words. Now, there are > even more influences because of immigration (in the States, we have > mounds of Spanish in English). Our grammar and everyday vocabulary > is Germanic; our high-fallutin' words are Latinate and Greco. I > often offer my condolences and admiration to my students, who are > struggling with this gargantuan mess. This reminds me of something I notice often. English, though a Germanic language, is heavily influenced by French. The following are my observations, and not really based any fact, AFAIK. Take it for what it's worth, though I have a BA in Linguistics and speak English and Portuguese both with native fluency. It seems that there are a lot of words in English which have a synonym based on a Latin derivative, and vice versa with a German one. I noticed it more and more after learning Portuguese, where there would be some word in it that was obviously from Latin, and the translation was completely different in English, a German-based word. Every once in a while I would hear someone use a word in English in a more technical or formal environment, or just I guess to be different, and it would be just like the Portuguese/Latin translation, which I had never heard used before in English. I always found that very interesting. A more common example is something like 'build' and 'fabricate'. We use 'build' all the time, but how often do you hear someone talking about fabricating something? 'fabricate' is very much Latin-based, and 'build' is from the German 'bilden'. If you want to see something funny, have an English speaker explain the different in 'to do' and 'to make'. It is the same verb in Spanish (hacer) / Portuguese (fazer). Most people wouldn't be able to do it without using the words in their own definitions. Basically, 'to do' is to perform an action, and 'to make' is to fabricate. Anyway, just an observation of mine. And btw, something I once learned is that English is not as fucked up as you may thing. The Romance languages follow a general rule to keep their structure. I think it is morphology. English follows a different structure, I think phonology. So it's like comparing apples to oranges. But of course English does definitely have lots of exceptions, lots of "you just have to know it" stuff. - -Ken np: Mercyland - No Feet On The Cowling ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:29:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, da9ve stovall wrote: > I got mine several weeks ago through Amazon.co.uk. Their description > listed it as a Region 2 DVD (which wouldn't matter to me - I ave an > Apex AD-600A player which lets me switch regions), but when it came, > it was actually Region "0" - regionless. Can you possibly tell if it's actually without CSS (rather than merely region 0)? Most of the DVDs without CSS are either porn or low budget reproductions of public domain silent films, but I've got my fingers crossed for Gotta Let This Hen Out! Oh, and if anyone has a public domain work on DVD that IS CSS encoded, please let me know. This would apply to work from before 1922 or work specifically placed in the public domain through non-renewal by 1947. Thanks. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: words words words On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > A more common example is something like 'build' and 'fabricate'. We > use 'build' all the time, but how often do you hear someone talking > about fabricating something? 'fabricate' is very much Latin-based, > and 'build' is from the German 'bilden'. [CR mine] > If you want to see something funny, have an English speaker explain > the different in 'to do' and 'to make'. It is the same verb in > Spanish (hacer) / Portuguese (fazer). But in German, it is also the same (in some situations). For example, when you ask a person how they make their living, in English one says "What do you do?", in Spanish "Que (usted) hace?" and in German "Was macht Sie?" (see "Was tun Sie?", literally "What do you do?"). I'm not a linguist or particularly fluent in ANY language, so correct away. I have no authority. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:25:42 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: words words words On Tue, Jun 19, 2001, Capuchin wrote: > But in German, it is also the same (in some situations). > > For example, when you ask a person how they make their living, in English > one says "What do you do?", in Spanish "Que (usted) hace?" and in German > "Was macht Sie?" (see "Was tun Sie?", literally "What do you do?"). > > I'm not a linguist or particularly fluent in ANY language, so correct > away. I have no authority. But don't you play one on TV? ;-) Sorry I can't really comment on that. I'm not that familiar with German. I've had three German cars, though, so I have had to do some translating under the hood ('bonnet' for the English people on the list ). Good thing a lot of the words are similar-looking enough, except that they are all combined into one huge one! :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:28:19 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey James Dignan wrote: > > well, we know you're mainly liberatian lefties I've just discovered that Curious George is a communist. If you've ever bought Curious George Fruit Snacks, you'll see he's on a paperboy bike delivering The Daily Star. The Daily Star is the newspaper of the UK communist party, as any fule kno. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:28:49 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: Re: words words words when we last left our heroes, Capuchin exclaimed: >For example, when you ask a person how they make their living, in English >one says "What do you do?", in Spanish "Que (usted) hace?" and in German >"Was macht Sie?" (see "Was tun Sie?", literally "What do you do?"). i am not (nor was) a german scholar but i believe "Was machen Sie?" means something more like "what are you doing right now?" rather than "how do you make your living?". i think the german for that would be "Was haben Sie fuer Arbeit?" or something along those lines. i'm sure seb can clear this up for us. >I'm not a linguist or particularly fluent in ANY language, so correct >away. I have no authority. ditto. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:29:54 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD when we last left our heroes, da9ve stovall exclaimed: >I got mine several weeks ago through Amazon.co.uk. so, is its contents to the vhs release? can you post label, catalog number, etc. for us trainspotters? thanks. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:31:29 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: Re: Sharkboy in Portland... when we last left our heroes, Mark Gloster exclaimed: >Woj waited until I was safely out of Santa Cruz to visit there. >This does make some sense, though I am partially crushed. i felt bad about that too. if i makes you feel better, i did think of you and donne as we drove by aptos en route to monterey (where we visited the aquarium and watched sea otter and penguin feeding time). woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:49:45 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD Gotta Let This Hen Out List Price: $24.95 Our Price: $18.71 You Save: $6.24 (25%) Not Yet Released -- On Order DVD Rated: NR - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technical Information Release Information: Studio: Studio K7/Mvd-Duplicate DVD Release Date: June 26, 2001 Run Time: 60 minutes Edition Details:  Region 1 encoding (US and Canada only)  Color  ASIN: B00005LC5C >From: stomachless bottom >Reply-To: stomachless bottom >To: "worst...mailing list...EVER!" >Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:29:54 -0400 > >when we last left our heroes, da9ve stovall exclaimed: > > >I got mine several weeks ago through Amazon.co.uk. > >so, is its contents to the vhs release? can you post label, catalog number, >etc. for us trainspotters? thanks. > >woj _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:51:31 -0000 From: "Tigger Lily" Subject: March to the Sea with Diver Dan Errrr, disheartening military (not leadership!) link James. Im appalled by my own inner-general(and I was just -one- last choice away from that more civilized Wesley Clark.) But I think it why I dont like to fight much. Im not exactly queen of the flame:-). Im competitive and love to play but I play fair( cheaters are scum.) I would only unleash my inner-general if it were a question of really really important stuff. In which case anyone who was stupid enough to drastically threaten my welfare that much would be up against William Tecumseh Sherman. And God have mercy on their souls;-). BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? Am I the only one who -liked- mine? Just took some books out of the libes and I realize 3 out of 5 are feg recs. Non-feg picks: Force of Character/James Hillman Nature/Emerson Fegpicks: A Girl Like I/Loos Unsutable for Ladies/ ed. Robinson Louie, Louis/ Marsh Jill--I found a Diver Dan website: www.planetxmagazine.com/diverdan.html Theres a picture of Minivera on color. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:01:02 -0400 From: stomachless bottom Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD thanks for those details from amazon, brian. can anyone who has an actual copy corroborate or contrast with what amazon says? by the way, amazon.com confusingly has two entries for this dvd -- each with a different price and asin number, neither of which are the same as the one that amazon.co.uk was selling. i pre-ordered the cheaper one and wrote to amazon asking for a clarification. i don't know much abut asin numbers -- can anyone explain what they are and how they are assigned? woj n.p. suran song in stag -- pure agitator (whoa!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:46:11 -0700 From: Eb Subject: another preview I heard the upcoming Mercury Rev album, today...I know the group has fans here. I think this disc will be just as well-reviewed as the last one (or even *better* reviewed!), but it still doesn't quite grab me, personally. The arrangements are just as superficially beautiful as on Deserter's Songs, but I have the same major complaint: the lack of melodic imagination. Every time a new track starts and I hear the opening line, I just think "Well, that's a decent melodic phrase -- too bad the entire song will be built around it, and I'll have to hear it 20 more times...." The repetition makes me feel "impatient," rather than "caressed" as intended. On the other one, this album isn't quite so formulaic about downward-motion chord progressions as Deserter's Songs, and that's a good thing. The vocals are a bit more upfront on this one -- it still sounds "celestial," but there's not as much of a majestic, wall-of-sound feel. Many critics will adore it, I'm sure. - --- Doesn't the French verb "faire" mean "to do" and "to make," as well? After wanting to see it for yeeeeeeeeears, I finally saw Ingmar Bergman's "Persona" last night. Wow. Definitely a film which warrants more than one viewing. If I could watch it again tonight, I would. Eb (if this year in music was a horse race, Nick Cave would be leading by six lengths) np: boring interview quotes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:25:17 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: chocolate manhood From AllStar: "Seems [Warren] Cuccurullo likes chocolate or at least his member does. The musician is said to be taking on a side project, entitled ROCKCOCK, where he will sell both edible chocolate molds as well as usable dildos molded from his manhood. Word on the street is the guitarist is seeking other musicians to submit to a molding as well, joining his fine line of rock and roll ding-a-lings. Think Cynthia Plaster Caster, but with chocolate." - --Jason, now thinking twice about eating that Babe Ruth "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:03:30 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey >>well, we know you're mainly liberatian lefties, so here's one for y'all to >try..."What's your leadership style?" > http://www.military.com/ResourceContent/?file=lpm_fd.htm> Lord Horatio Nelson, hmmmm... I guess it was the Naval J.R.O.T.C.(Naval Military school). DAMN THE TORPEDOES, FULL SPEED AHEAD! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:55:57 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey on 6/18/01 9:51 PM, James Dignan hat geschrieben: > James "Wesley Clark" Dignan I, too, was "Wesley Clark". - -- Cheers! - -g- "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences." --R.G. Ingersoll )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber // Santa Rosa, California // uberg (at) sonic dot net )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:09:55 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: chocolate manhood on 6/19/01 3:25 PM, Jason R. Thornton hat geschrieben: > "Seems [Warren] Cuccurullo likes chocolate or at least his member does. The > musician is said to be taking on a side project, entitled ROCKCOCK, where > he will sell both edible chocolate molds as well as usable dildos molded > from his manhood. Word on the street is the guitarist is seeking other > musicians to submit to a molding as well, joining his fine line of rock and > roll ding-a-lings. Think Cynthia Plaster Caster, but with chocolate." Coincidentally (or ironically), the first Duran Duran album on which Cuccurullo appeared was entitled _Big Thing_. - -- Cheers! - -g- "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." --Frank Zappa )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber // Santa Rosa, California // uberg (at) sonic dot net )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:06:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: language in our lungs >From: "Tigger Lily" > >Stewart: >>I bet they're saying something like "It's now officially in the >>english language", too. We don't have an official register of the >>english language, unlike French with "les Quarante". > >That annoys me too. English is an libertarian;-) language. >We have (I think?) one of the largest vocabs of any language by alot, a >googleplex worth of regional variations and its all in constant flux. >And in order to produce the above, the one thing we do -not- have is some >offical word police force comme les idiot grenouiles, Diue merci! that's the thing I love most about the language. French, they keep out 'invading words'; Englhey use them for subtle nuances. We take words meaning the same thing in different languages, and use them to make shadings of meaning: beer/ale/lager; undressing/denouement/denudation; know-how/savoir-faire. And we take foreign phrases for which there are no direct equivalents and use them as though they're our own: zeitgeist, cwm, raison-d'etre. Our language is one of the world's richest because of it. And that's not even commenting on regional variations that make it necessary for a Yorkshireman travelling in Brooklyn to need an interpreter! This last one is common for most languages though... even Maori has regional variations - 100 miles south of here is Rakiura, 250 miles north of here is Rangiora. Same word. >New Zealand's in the news again and I just dont know why our man in NZ hasnt >alerted us to this important development : >http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,831124a10,FF.html did you use a search engine to find this? If so, what keywords did you use??? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:24:23 -0500 From: "s.mary" Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey My result was Napoleon Bonaparte. At least there's a Robyn connection! s.Mary At 04:55 PM 06/19/2001 -0700, Glen Uber wrote: >on 6/18/01 9:51 PM, James Dignan hat geschrieben: > > > James "Wesley Clark" Dignan > >I, too, was "Wesley Clark". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:35:58 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: another silly sociographic survey on 6/18/01 9:51 PM, James Dignan at grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > well, we know you're mainly liberatian lefties, so here's one for y'all to > try..."What's your leadership style?" > > > George Washington, thank you very much. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:13:46 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan On Tuesday, June 19, 2001, at 02:51 PM, Tigger Lily wrote: > BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? > Am I the only one who -liked- mine? Mine was Beck, which I guess is pretty OK. I bet Mr. P was not in the mix. - - Steve __________ INTERNAL INDUSTRY documents obtained by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., suggest that in the mid-1990s oil companies had little interest in building new refineries because of low profit margins and, in fact, were discussing the need to curtail refinery output to boost profits. - MSNBC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:39:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: March to the Sea with Diver Dan steve wrote: > Tigger Lily wrote: > > BTW--didnt -anyone- else do the inner rawk star thing? > > Am I the only one who -liked- mine? > Mine was Beck, which I guess is pretty OK. I bet Mr. P was not in > the mix. Chris Isaak. Wesley Clark. Economic Left/Right: -3.27 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.38 ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain "For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." George W. Bush, May 14, 2001 Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: words words words papua new guinea does have us beat in number of languages: 800-and-something was in todays paper. only 12 have been studied! On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Jill Brand wrote: > I read this interchange not 10 minutes ago: > > Tigger Lily wrote: > > > > We have (I think?) one of the largest vocabs of any language by alot > > Sorry, but I think that Arabic whups our sorry Anglo asses by miles. > > Stewart > > Kay is right, Stewart. English has the largest vocabulary of any language > here on earth. Arabic has many more dialects, and Arabic speakers from > the far reaches of its domain often can't understand each other. The > following is a bit out of date (1986), but I doubt the information has > changed substantially. It is from The Story of English (McCrum, Cran, and > MacNeil). > > "The statistics of English are astonishing. Of all the world's languages > (which now number some 2700), it is arguably the richest in vocabulary. > The compendious Oxford English Dictionary lists about 500,000 words; and a > further half million technical and scientific terms remain uncatalogued. > According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of > about 185,000 words and French fewer than 100,000, including such > Franglais as le snacque-barre and le hit-parade...." > > English is the garbage can of Western languages. Every invasion of the > British isles brought something new, and words sometimes entered the > language twice, and were given different meanings. For example, "shirt" > is of Anglo-Saxon origin whereas as "skirt" (scyrt) came from the Vikings. > Both had the same meaning (something like a toga) when they started out, > but received different meanings later (same with "shriek" and "screech"). > There is hardly any Gallic (Celtic) left in English, but it's there. > Before the 19th century, there was civilian Latin from the Romans, church > Latin from the missionaries, Greek from the sciences, Anglo-Saxon, Danish, > Norman French, Central French....and the British had tons of Indian words. > Now, there are even more influences because of immigration (in the States, > we have mounds of Spanish in English). Our grammar and everyday vocabulary > is Germanic; our high-fallutin' words are Latinate and Greco. I often > offer my condolences and admiration to my students, who are struggling > with this gargantuan mess. > > This was off the top of my head, so I apologize for any sweeping > statements with which you may disagree. > > Jill, who thinks Robyn uses his English very well. > ***************************************************************************** The body consists of three parts -- the brainium, the borax, and the abominable cavity. The brainium contains the brain, the borax contains the heart and lungs, and the abominable cavity contains the bowels, of which there are five -- a,e,i, o, and u. ***************************************************************************** Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:53:38 -0700 From: Motherfucking Asshole Subject: RE: Gotta Let This Hen Out DVD here's what ken crane's says: Robyn Hitchcock And The Egyptians: Gotta Let This Hen Out! - DVD A superb collection of live and music video footage from one of the true pioneering heroes of alternative music. Tracks: Listenting To The Higsons, The Fly, Kingdom Of Love, Leppo & The Jooves, The Man With The Lightbulb Head, The Cars She Used To Drive, Sounds Great When You're Dead, Surgery, Only The Stones Remain, America, Heaven, My Wife And My Dead Wife, I Often Dream Of Trains, Brenda's Iron Sledge. Stock Status Coming Soon KC Price $18.71 Retail Price $24.95 Release Date 6/26/2001 Category Music, Pop & Rock Rating Not Rated Actors Robyn Hitchcock Studio Music Video Run Time 60 Minutes Standard Format Full Frame Closed Caption NO Language English THX Certified N/A Multi-Audio NO Production Notes NO 16:9 Enhanced NO Title Released NO Box Set/Special Edition NO Regionally Coded (Region 1) why in god's name would anybody already owning the vhs want to own the dvd? at least Storefront has a collectible tray insert (or whatever it's called). second question: did robyn approve this, or is it out of his purview? At Tuesday, 19 June 2001, you wrote: >thanks for those details from amazon, brian. can anyone who has an actual >copy corroborate or contrast with what amazon says? > >by the way, amazon.com confusingly has two entries for this dvd -- each >with a different price and asin number, neither of which are the same as >the one that amazon.co.uk was selling. i pre-ordered the cheaper one and >wrote to amazon asking for a clarification. > >i don't know much abut asin numbers -- can anyone explain what they are and >how they are assigned? > >woj > >n.p. suran song in stag -- pure agitator (whoa!) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #247 ********************************