From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #234 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 11 2001 Volume 10 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Lucksmiths ["bibi gellert" ] Re: Who was 12 in 1980? [Christopher Gross ] Would Shaq play with a broken ankle? ["Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" ] Re: fuel [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Fegbooks, Spinal Tap tour kick-off, Meg Davis ["she rex" ] RE: Who was 12 in 1980? ["Yudt.Matthew" ] Timestory [":-(Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough)-:" ] Re: when Woody Allen was funny... [Michael R Godwin ] gas in LA ["Walker, Charles" ] Re: Monday am rambling [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Monday am rambling [Viv Lyon ] Respect ["Walker, Charles" ] Re: Timestory ["JH3" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:54:52 -0400 From: "bibi gellert" Subject: Lucksmiths I too, saw the Lucksmiths when they played in Athens, Ga.with Ladybug. They are not British, they are Australian, from Melbourne. Their record label is Candle records, in Melbourne, and Drive-In is the US distributor. I don't pretend to be objective, since I am a part of that "following" Eb mentioned, but I can understand where the scruffy comment came from. They are young guys and don't have much in the way of equipment-the lead singer plays a scaled down version of drums, and nobody has much stage presence in the way of dress or presentation. However, when you give them a chance, you'll find varied instrumentation on their cds-especially on their latest, "Why that doesn't Surprise Me" and a sure sense of melody and clever lyrics. I'm sorry that they didn't make more of an impression-I fear that it's going to be difficult for them to have any kind of success in the US, which seems to be the story with so many bands I like. The Lucksmiths require a bit more attention than most listeners are willing to give. I can understand those who would count that as a fault, but I'm still happy to find bands which don't pander and are willing to put intelligence and care into their work. And they are really nice guys as well. Bibi G - --- bibigellert@earthlink.net - --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:17:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Who was 12 in 1980? On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough wrote: > Sorry. I wonder who did say it then? I didn't say it, but I *did* turn 12 in 1980. By then my modest childhood interest in pro sports was already fading, but insofar as I liked *any* baseball team it was the Phillies. We lived in southern NJ -- down near the shore, but still within the zone of Philadelphian cultural dominance - -- and my father grew up in one of the small towns just across the river from Philly, so being a Phillies fan was almost unavoidable. (However, I was born in Pittsburgh, and in football we rooted for the Steelers rather than the Iggles.) The only things I remember about the Phillies from that period are that thy had a player named Gross, and that my sister had a Philly Phanatic doll. Oh, my other sports memory: once when my dad took me to a Phillies game (or was it the Eagles?), he gave me two one-dollar bills to pass down the row to the beer vendor, and I was all confused. Does he want two beers? Surely a 16 oz cup of stadium beer can't cost two whole dollars! That was about 1978, I think. - --Chris, who has to get his two cents in, even if it's just to say how little he cares about the topic at hand ps: DC folks don't forget about these important upcoming events! June 12: Uz Jsme Doma at the Black Cat June 21: ohGR (Ogre and cEvin from Skinny Puppy) at the Cage ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:24:14 -0000 From: "Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" Subject: Would Shaq play with a broken ankle? Miles: >who sometimes ponders adding the "s" >back in his surname that his grandfather >inexplicably dropped (orig.: "Goossens") Is it a Dutch name? What does it mean? Lang: >I was 12 in 80 and a Yankee fan(I still am).... >The problem is that I grew up in South Jersey outside of Philly. Ahhh, so you must be the culprit. Im sure you know the dig New Yorkers and Philadelphians say bout people from Jersey. But just in case youve forgotten >;-)... You cant help that youre just on the wrong side of -both- rivers (-:< Jersey gets pulled in two directions bout lots of stuff. Like your comments on Phillyisms. Its still one of the great, immediatly-recognizable Northeastern regional accents. I grieve for the day when everyone from Philly, Brookyn, Boston and Maine all sound the same. Do you still live in Marlton? When I was in libes school I lived in Haddonfield. Branscombe: >Enjoying being a butler from the underside in The Importance Of Being >Earnest. I will stand anyone who makes it to see me at the Watermill >Theatre, Bagnor, Nr Newbury a drink. Im confused-- Bangor Maine, Watermill Long Island or Newbury Conneticut? I do rememeber it was the Northeast -- somewhere:-) >Robyn is obviously a Wilde fan - >This is particularly apparent, >I've come >to realise recently, in >their shared fascination with >onomastics. Still confused. Dont own an expensive unabridged dictonary( someday Ill find an absurdly-underpriced Webster's 2nd at a thrift) since I have the OED at work. But it being Sunday...what does onomastics mean? More sporty talk: I say 2 out of 3 in Philly , then 2 out of 3 in LA. Do you know what you call an optimist? --a goat trying to pretend she's a sheep. Am I fooling anyone:-)? Love and Dimples Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:44:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Lucksmiths >the Lucksmiths are actually on >Candle Records, a label in their native Australia (ahem) Oops, I stand corrected. Considering all the bands I mention which are acknowledged with quizzical silence, I'm surprised to see this much talk about an obscurity like the Lucksmiths. ;) Eb, who just doesn't have much "regional patriotism," as far as the Lakers go now ehhing: Shannon Wright ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:54:55 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fuel >On 9 Jun 2001, at 18:28, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >> >then shelled out another fat stack of cash for gas (and $1.92 is a >> > >*good*price, nowadays. >> >> Ouch, I filled up at $1.54 today, this is in Jersey where gas is always >> cheaper(and always pumped for you). I hope it's premium your talking about! >> >> Max > >Hmm, a quick calculation puts me at nearly $5 per gallon at current >exchange rates and petrol prices! :-( $2.20 US here for regular, but I se Diesel, so make that $1.60 for me ...now returning you to basketball talk... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:22:19 +0800 From: "she rex" Subject: Fegbooks, Spinal Tap tour kick-off, Meg Davis Hi, all! Fegbooks is coming along. The look has changed - there is now an index page and a separate page for each author. Some of the old links will no doubt be expired - haven't checked them all yet. I amdoing it chronologically, so please be patient if you have submited anything - it will appear eventually. All of 1999 is now there and 2000 is coming this week. I will add a What's New page this week as well to log updates so you can go there and read anything posted since the last time you looked. Here is a link for a Hollywood Reporter article on the kick-off performance of Spinal Tap's world tour, for those that might be interested: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/reviews/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=898649 Gnat - ever listen to Meg Davis? She.Rex - -------------------- Ride it on out like a bird in the skyways Ride it on out like you were a bird Fly it on out like a needle in a sunbeam Ride it on out like you were a bird Wear a tall hat like a druid in the old days Wear a tall hat and a tatooed gown Ride a white swan like the people of the Beltane Wear you hair long babe you can't go wrong Pinch a bright star and you place it on your forehead Say a few spells and baby there you go Take a black cat and you sit it on your shoulder And in the morning you'll know all you know - oh Wear a tall hat like a druid in the old days Wear a tall hat and a tatooed gown Ride a white swan like the people of the Beltane Wear you hair long babe you can't go wrong Da da de de da Da da de de da Da da de de da (da da da) Da da de de da (da da da) ... - - Um - need I say? - -- _______________________________________________ Make PC-to-Phone calls with Net2Phone. Sign-up today at: http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?121 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:37:42 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: wigging out for a few weeks Looks like I'm one of Twelve Angry Men for the next few weeks -- except that it's a mixed jury, and in Scotland, we have 15 on a panel, not 12. So my stewart@ref.collins.co.uk address will just have to stagnate for a while. I can't ever say anything about the case, so please don't ask. What I can say is, I really wish those barristers would give their wigs a scrub - -- they are icky nasty greasy looking! Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net "Hang on... This is the real thing... The truth, my friend, and nothing but the truth" - Mervyn Peake http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:49:00 -0400 From: "Yudt.Matthew" Subject: RE: Who was 12 in 1980? > From: "Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" > Subject: Who was 12 in 1980? > > Someone--then me--then Tom: > >>>I was 12 when the Phillies won it all in 1980. > > >>It was Phillies Fever alright. > >>So you grew up in this area? Do you say atty-tude, rad-ea-ae-tor > and > >>buet-ee-ful? And what do you think bout those Iggles?;-) > > >I said no such thing. > > Sorry. I wonder who did say it then? > > Love and Dimples > Kay > That'd be me. Allentown, to be more precise, but I'm so tired of hearing "hey, Billy Joel..." I just say "North of Philly". And yes, I speak as you wrote, with a bit of PA Dutch in there too, I've been told. Iggles? Love 'em! Can't wait for August! They just started the new stadium last week, ehh? Cheers, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:35:29 -0000 From: ":-(Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough)-:" Subject: Timestory Og 76ers:-( I want to put together a CDR of time/history songs. Im thinking along the lines of Cope's "I Have Always Been Here Before," Attaway's "Another Time," Al Stewart's "Man For All Seasons", Robyn's "I Feel Beautiful." Any suggestions? Love and Dimples Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 08:46:33 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Monday am rambling >the Lucksmiths are actually on Candle Records, a label in their >native >Australia (ahem)... My band practices in the basement of the Magic Marker House, home to the eponymous Magic Marker record label, and also the frontman from a local band called Kissing Book, Andrew by name. He is blessed with a startling void where his social skills might have otherwise been. He is friends with the Lucksmiths - and probably lets no-one forget it - and spends hours on the phone to Australia with them, racking up hundreds of dollars in phone bills. Andrew mocked one of my songs, and so I hate him. His housemates hate him as well, but for different reasons, as they have to live with him. Anyway, this Lucksmiths/Ladybug Transistor show is happening tonight, and I'm not sure whether to go - it's on a weeknight, and the two songs I've heard by LT have been insipid as hell; on the other hand, both songs were covers, so I feel like I should give them another shot... The third band on the bill is the overrated, pedestrian Aisler Set, with their thousands of dollars worth of equipment and their penny's worth of talent. Harumph. The aforementioned Andrew also adores a band called Mates of State - adores them to a comical degree, playing air drums, grabbing people and shaking them in his frenzy of delight, etc. Mates of State are a girl keyboardist and a boy drummer - imagine a poppier, happier Quasi with more harmonies - and they're pretty good, but not THAT good. They're playing here for free next Saturday, which should be fun, if only for the opportunity to observe Andrew's hysteria. The Minders are touring with them later this summer, which means even more such opportunities. Maybe I should bring a camera. n. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:09:19 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: when Woody Allen was funny... On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, victorian squid wrote: > Not sure I want to debate about exactly when Allen -stopped- being > funny, but I do know it was a while ago. I was watching "Celebrity" > the other day and dam, it's pathetic. Also very weird and kinda > vaguely unpleasant watching Kenneth Branagh be Woody Allen. I hate to be grumpy old Godders all the time, but for me it was 'Manhattan' that started the rot. What a self-indulgent mess! I laughed at 'Love and Death', I giggled at 'Take the Money and Run', I actually fell out of my seat watching 'Bananas' (during the sequence where his interview is being 'interpreted' into the same language), I thought 'Sleeper' had good moments, and 'Play it again Sam' is my favourite Konigsberg film. But since he got into romantic nostalgia in a big way he has just ceased to be laugh-out-loud funny. At one point I swore never to go to another WA film, but I have been persuaded against my better judgement to see Radio Days, Bullets on Broadway, Purple Rose of Cairo, Mighty Aphrodite and Broadway Danny Rose and they were _all_ wry, resigned, whimsical, coy and (to a greater or lesser extent) puke-making. It was nice to see the Greek theatre at Taormina, though. - - Mike "Sense of humour? Lost it in 1983" Godwin PS And of course I liked the guffawgenic Gene-Wilder-meets-the-sheep sketch in EYWTKAS-BWATA PPS I'm beginning to understand why my quiz team captain's son refers to me as "Seventies Mickey"... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:12:40 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: gas in LA >then shelled out another fat stack of cash for gas (and $1.92 is a > >*good*price, nowadays. Ouch, I filled up at $1.54 today, this is in Jersey where gas is always cheaper(and always pumped for you). I hope it's premium your talking about! Max PRemium gas in LA has been going for as much as $2.48 per gallon. but i hear that the prices ought to be falling, well that's what i hear, we'll see..... chas in LA http://www.theweeklywalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:25:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Monday am rambling On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Natalie Jane wrote: > The aforementioned Andrew also adores a band called Mates of State - > adores them to a comical degree, playing air drums, grabbing people > and shaking them in his frenzy of delight, etc. Mates of State are a > girl keyboardist and a boy drummer - imagine a poppier, happier Quasi > with more harmonies - and they're pretty good, but not THAT good. Since the rest of your post was concerned only with provable objective facts (as evidenced by the fact that I agree with them), I must point out the inaccuracy above: Mates Of State are, in fact, that good. I actually like them better than Quasi, mostly because the Mates seem to write entirely within the framework of the organ/drums setup, while Quasi occasionally sound to me as though they have merely decided some songs sound cool when you write them for a full band and then leave out a few of the instruments. If anyone's playing along at home, MoS were some sort of featured artist at Napster at one point, so it should be easy to find an mp3 of that song ("Proofs"). a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:42:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Monday am rambling On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: > Since the rest of your post was concerned only with provable objective > facts (as evidenced by the fact that I agree with them), I must point out > the inaccuracy above: Mates Of State are, in fact, that good. Ah, I must take exception. They are very good _live_, and quite awful on record. I saw them at Ye Olde Magic Marker House, and I LOVED them. I eagerly bought the album from them. I eagerly awaited the moment I might listen to said album, which came the next morning as Capuchin was making blueberry pancakes. I put them on, telling him all the while in effusive tones about the glorious noise which was soon to usher forth from the stereo. Imagine my dismay and shame when, instead of the rich harmonies and driving ebullience I expected, we heard only caterwauling and a badly played organ. Cappy could barely bring himself to serve me pancakes, he was so disappointed. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 09:40:18 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: Respect >The reason Robyn is not bigger than the Beatles, Jesus Christ and Pamala Lee >Anderson's udders is because of his allergy to bee stings well, perhaps he's just not as oppressive as any of those other things ;) James Personally I think RH has it "made." He seems to have a stable life - financially speaking - That is he isn't 2 inches from living in a trailer. Sure he can't buy an island ala The Stones but who needs a whole freakin' island? Well... More importantly he has a strong enough fan base that he can guarantee record sales and decent turnout for shows so there will always be a record company somewhere who likes his stuff that won't lose their shirt on a RH album. This way he can write songs any damn way he pleases. If the "goal" in rnr is to make it - well for many that is all about the benjamins and the fame and the atention. RH has always had his sights on the music first, what I would call the art of his mostly inane business [the record companies/industry]. For that I may not always like everything he does - tho i come close - but I will always respect what he does. RH is oft quoted as being suspicious of fame and fame seekers, and living in LA, for me, that is a huge breath of fresh air in my info-tainment saturated/pc stained lungs. Unlike rap stars and all of that who talk about looking for 'respect,' from others, RH goes out and does it right - he respects *himself* and makes music for himself that we all get to share in. I wonder if any of this has to do with the title of the Respect album?? Thoughts..... Chas in LA http://www.theweeklywalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:14:46 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Timestory > I want to put together a CDR of time/history songs. > Im thinking along the lines of Cope's "I Have Always Been Here Before," > Attaway's "Another Time," Al Stewart's "Man For All Seasons", Robyn's "I > Feel Beautiful." > Any suggestions? How about "Time/The End of Time" by the Chameleons and "It's History" by the Comsat Angels? And why "Man For All Seasons" when the same guy recorded a song called "Time Passages"? Or even "I Feel Beautiful" when there's "Cynthia Mask"? Is there perhaps there a more specific theme to this that you're not telling us about...? John "no future" Hedges ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #234 ********************************