From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #233 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, June 10 2001 Volume 10 : Number 233 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Who was 12 in 1980? ["Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" ] Re: Who was 12 in 1980? [Stephen Mahoney ] E-Mail Problems ["Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" ] a Lonesome night at Spaceland [Eb ] Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland ["Rob" ] Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland [steve ] Dave Davies kronikles [Stephen Mahoney ] Re: de Camp and Pratt [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #232 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] daniel johnston ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 15:18:11 -0000 From: "Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" Subject: Who was 12 in 1980? Someone--then me--then Tom: >>>I was 12 when the Phillies won it all in 1980. >>It was Phillies Fever alright. >>So you grew up in this area? Do you say atty-tude, rad-ea-ae-tor and >>buet-ee-ful? And what do you think bout those Iggles?;-) >I said no such thing. Sorry. I wonder who did say it then? Love and Dimples Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 10:54:23 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Who was 12 in 1980? At 03:18 PM 6/9/2001 +0000, Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough wrote: >Someone--then me--then Tom: >>>>I was 12 when the Phillies won it all in 1980. > >>>It was Phillies Fever alright. >>>So you grew up in this area? Do you say atty-tude, rad-ea-ae-tor and >>>buet-ee-ful? And what do you think bout those Iggles?;-) > >>I said no such thing. > >Sorry. I wonder who did say it then? I was 13 in 1980, but was busy lamenting yet another second-place finish by my beloved Reds. FWIW, I was pulling for the Phillies in the series, even though one of my favorite baseball moments was the Royals finally vanquishing the obnoxious Reggie Jackson-led Yankees in the A.L. playoffs that year. Matthew said: >PS >by the way its Matthew, but Yudt is good enough That'll teach me to click the "Just Queue" button without letting spellcheck run! Glad we're on the same page with Kaat. later, Miles, who sometimes ponders adding the "s" back in his surname that his grandfather inexplicably dropped (orig.: "Goossens") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 09:36:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Who was 12 in 1980? On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Miles Goosens wrote: > At 03:18 PM 6/9/2001 +0000, Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough wrote: > >Someone--then me--then Tom: > >>>>I was 12 when the Phillies won it all in 1980. > > I was 13 in 1980, but was busy lamenting yet another second-place finish by > my beloved Reds. FWIW, I was pulling for the Phillies in the series, even > though one of my favorite baseball moments was the Royals finally > vanquishing the obnoxious Reggie Jackson-led Yankees in the A.L. playoffs > that year. I was 14 in 1980 and I can just remember having a hard time to choose a favorite side, phillies or the george brett royals with the mad hungarian as their reliever at the time(?) I think the side-armer quisenberry didnt come around til the cards-royals series, where I sided with ozzie smith and willie mcgee....and of course my first exciting rooting of a team was for the pirates and kent tekulve and willie stargell and bert blyleven!!!! was a big steelers fan by then and loved that pittsburgh won in both sports.....ahhhhh memories!!!!( I really loved the angels, my home team at the time, but they werent going anywhere!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:39:26 -0000 From: "Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" Subject: E-Mail Problems Something seems abit amiss with my hotmail account. 2 messages which Im pretty sure Ive sent to Feg haven't shown up. Either Woj is a secret Lakers fan and cutting me off at the pass or somethings wrong. Ive also been loosing drafts. Does anyone think I owe them a post? If so--please let me know since I think Im all caught up. Thanks Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 17:51:01 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Who was 12 in 1980? I was 12 in 80 and a Yankee fan(I still am). The problem is that I grew up in South Jersey outside of Philly. People used to loath the Yankees around here and I caught alot of flack. Unlike now when all the bandwagon jumpers avoid the Phillies,until the Sixers win the Championship of course. Plenty of Yankees fans now. I will neer forget Tug McGraws gesture to N.Y. and the Yankees, I thought and still think he is kind of a moron. Great pitcher with misdirected frustrations. What it comes down to is I wanted to like the Phillies but was not allowed to by my peers, I like them now(except when they play the Yanks) and now that we are all adults people are alot cooler. Oh yeah, I was really very very happy that they beat those stinkin Royals. My stepfather says Iggles. He does not say the following (I do know some who do)baffroom,new in place of no, hewgie, phewn, chizzsteak, and innerview. I know people who grew up in mefer(Medford)and I grew up in maralin(Marlton). G O S I X E R S, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:55:03 -0700 From: Eb Subject: a Lonesome night at Spaceland Last night at Spaceland.... I arrived way early, unfortunately. There were *two* opening groups which I had never heard of, and I wasn't much in the mood to endure them. Worse, I managed to arrive before the first one even started, although that band should've been *finished* already, based on the posted set times. So, I ducked out for a hour or so. Drove over to nearby Rockaway Records, but it was closed. I figured it would be. Stopped at the ATM next door, then shelled out another fat stack of cash for gas (and $1.92 is a *good* price, nowadays). Drove down a stretch of the far-east end of Sunset Boulevard, looking for somewhere to kill time in Silverlake. Ended up peeking into "Akbar," just because I've heard several people (including Rufus Wainwright) recommend this bar. Nothing special, beyond some signed publicity photos on the wall. It might've been gay-oriented...not sure. Then I found a weird little bookstore called Circus of Books. Still open after 10 pm? Perfect. They had a selection of books and magazines out front, but I suspect they make most of their dough from a rather extravagant porn section in back. The place had a strong "sleazy pickup" vibe, so I avoided the over-21 scene and just flipped through some music magazines and books in the main area. Huh...Rhino is putting out a second Nuggets box, this time with exclusively non-American acts? I didn't even know. There! Time successfully killed. I rumbled back to Spaceland, and found the second opening band Parlour in mid-set. Surprisingly, they weren't bad at all. In fact, this performance had the mild air of an "industry showcase" (there's something I don't see much anymore, now that the record biz has dropped indie-rock brusquely by the curbside). I noted Chris Douridas (former KCRW music director, former host of "Sessions at 54th," now -- I think? -- an A&R rep for DreamWorks) at a back table. Parlour was yet another group in the epic Jeff Buckley/Radiohead vein, but a few of their songs were quite stirring. More importantly, the lead singer had a beautiful, floating voice with all the required sense of "drama." The band desperately needs an image makeover, though. The singer's unkempt hair and beard felt *so* much like 1974. ;) I eventually grew tired of their sound, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see Parlour turn up on a major label. Seemed like a third of the audience (including Douridas) left, when Parlour finished. There wasn't a soul I knew in the house, so I nervously paced around while waiting for the exalted Lonesome Organist (aka Jeremy Jacobsen). Someone started setting up a tacky red, white and blue drum kit, but I figured it was a roadie. But by the time this guy stacked keyboards on either side of the kit and leaned a steel pan against another drum, it was obvious that *this* was the Lonesome Organist. Definitely didn't fit my mental image. I was picturing some wild-haired, eccentrically dressed gent (perhaps Bob Forrest-esque?) with a heavy "mad scientist" aura. Nope! He was just a receding-hairlined, modestly attractive, late-'30s guy with a button-up shirt and a nice smile. Heh. An aging child prodigy, perhaps? My mental image had also included a host of weatherbeaten old organs with cracks in the wood, taped and strung together to squeeze a few remaining years out of them....no, wrong again. Nothing but a melodica, and a modern synthesizer with a set of vintage-style patches. OK, the synthesizer did have some tape around the edges, but.... I sensed that few in the crowd had heard of the Lonesome Organist before tonight, but he was a *big* hit. And how could he not be? It was one of the more amazing instrumental performances I've seen. The guy is just obscenely talented. He sat at the drum kit, with the synthesizer at knee-level to his left. Around his neck was a harmonica holder, with a microphone (and vocal box) also duct-taped to the frame. He also had an electric guitar strapped on, during most of this (excruciatingly short) set. It's hard to explain what he did, unless you actually saw it. The most startling discovery was that he's a pretty good guitarist and a *very* good drummer, as well. His standard tactic was playing bass drum and high-hat with his feet, while drumming with his right hand and playing roller-rink organ licks with his left. Then he'd slip in some harmonica and vocals, sporadically. He's obviously aware that his vocal talents don't match his instrumental skills -- hence the heavy filtering/processing on his voice. The music was a bit more wild-child bluesy than on his albums, and had less of a silent-movie/ragtime feel. In other words, more like his first album (Collector of Cactus Echo Bags) than his second (Cavalcade). It's the limitations of the onstage presentation, I suspect -- it just wasn't convenient to play two-handed keyboard. However, it was an remarkable display of ingenious, multi-tasked dexterity, and the chattering audience quickly hushed and closed in to watch him intently. I had a smile on my face throughout the set. The final song was an even bigger surprise -- he got up, picked up the steel pan and climbed down to the floor. There, circled by the audience and unmiked, he played a sophisticated steel-pan piece while correspondingly *tapdancing* on the linoleum floor. WOW. He also had a small chain of bells attached to one shoe, for extra percussion value. His versatility was truly bewildering. The only problem with the set? Too damn short!! I clocked it at just 21-22 minutes. Drat. I talked to him a bit after the set, and asked if this was the maximum time his poor body could withstand. He laughed, and essentially agreed. While dripping with sweat. I also got the impression that his albums *do* use more vintage instruments, but he just can't feasibly tour with them. A few other breathless fans approached him to pass on their appreciation, but he couldn't stay chatting for long -- he still had to set up for the next performance. See, he was also in the headlining band, Euphone (something I didn't realize until the day before the show). So, next came Euphone. The Lonesome Organist's labelmates Tortoise (damn...I *really* need to hear some Tortoise albums) also performed tonight, across town at UCLA, and the Spaceland gig had been optimistically co-billed as a "Tortoise afterparty." I guess the booker was hoping fans would speed over here after Tortoise's set. Well, the ploy seemed to work...somewhat. Considering it was 12:30 am and that Euphone isn't exactly a marquee name (I had never heard of them until now), the band had a good-sized turnout. Unfortunately, I didn't enjoy this set nearly as much. Jacobsen played about 90% guitar with this trio, and his guitar-playing is technically strong but not nearly as entertaining. The other two musicians were on bass and drums, while the drummer also sang brief vocals on two or three songs. Almost everything Jacobsen played had a similar choppy, chicken-scratch attack, and this grew dull after awhile. He's nimble as a guitarist, but stylistically limited. The rest of the music was mostly focused on manipulating/expanding various Latin rhythms, and made me think of a more fusion-influenced fIREHOSE/Minutemen at times. The drummer was a first-class talent, who could probably play in a jazz or rock band with equal expertise. It has been awhile since I've seen an extended drum solo onstage! But, he wasn't enough to keep me interested. I felt restless, and was relieved when the set ended and I could zoom outta there. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 18:28:34 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland >then shelled out another fat stack of cash for gas (and $1.92 is a > >*good*price, nowadays. Ouch, I filled up at $1.54 today, this is in Jersey where gas is always cheaper(and always pumped for you). I hope it's premium your talking about! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:53:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland >>then shelled out another fat stack of cash for gas (and $1.92 is a >> >*good*price, nowadays.) > >I hope it's premium your talking about! No!! Just the usual unleaded variety! The average price 'round these parts is currently about $1.97, I'd estimate. Wheeeeee. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:05:40 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland On 9 Jun 2001, at 18:28, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >then shelled out another fat stack of cash for gas (and $1.92 is a > > >*good*price, nowadays. > > Ouch, I filled up at $1.54 today, this is in Jersey where gas is always > cheaper(and always pumped for you). I hope it's premium your talking about! > > Max Hmm, a quick calculation puts me at nearly $5 per gallon at current exchange rates and petrol prices! :-( - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 18:58:17 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: a Lonesome night at Spaceland On Saturday, June 9, 2001, at 04:55 PM, Eb wrote: > I noted Chris Douridas (former KCRW music director, former host of > "Sessions at 54th," now -- I think? -- an A&R rep for DreamWorks) > at a back table. Way back when, he was at KERA radio in Dallas. And look, he's an actor - Actor - filmography 1. "Sessions at West 54th" (1997) TV Series .... Host 2. End of Violence, The (1997) .... Technician 3. Strange Days (1995) (voice) .... Talk Radio Host 4. Waterworld (1995) .... Atoller 5. Sexual Intent (1994) .... Jealous Christian 6. Pancho Barnes (1988) (TV) .... Pilot 7. No Safe Haven (1987) .... J.J. Harris 8. True Stories (1986) .... Ventriloquist 9. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, The (1986) .... Gunner 10. "North and South" (1985) (mini) TV Series .... McClellan 11. Jesse Owens Story, The (1984) (TV) .... Jerome - - Steve __________ At least three top White House advisers involved in drafting President Bush's energy strategy held stock in the Enron Corporation or earned fees from the large Texas-based energy trading company, which lobbied aggressively to shape the administration's approach to energy issues. - Joseph Kahn, New York Times ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:30:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Dave Davies kronikles Anyone else hear this? The first disk is not much- mostly a history lesson of the kinks via dave davies, outside of a few unreleased demos which are gems. The last 9 tracks of the second disk-the spare recordings from '98 are wonderful- didnt realize that dave davies had such a wonderful voice. wonder if he will ever release a solo album of that stuff? - -mahoney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:40:01 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: de Camp and Pratt >I'm sure some of y'all (Messrs Dignan et Godwin?) have read the Harold Shea >stories by Fletcher Pratt and L. Sprague de Camp. They're collected >in a volume called "The Compleat Enchanter." The premise is that >some college professors work out a way to project themselves into >various fictional universes, including "The Faerie Queene." Harold >Shea, the series hero, figures out (through comical trial and error) >how magic works in each universe and gets hailed as an enchanter. >The stories are very funny an well-researched, though a bit dated >here and there... e.g. Shea teaches Britomart how to tone down her >tomboy ways and be a proper submissive wife in order to better please >her fiance. read a few of them, but not tracked down the anthology so I'm bount to have missed some. If you liked them you'd probably also like de Camp and Pratt's "Tales from Gavagan's Bar", a series of wild and woolly shaggy dog stories and anecdotes as recounted by the regulars of the public house in the title. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:41:46 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #232 >The reason Robyn is not bigger than the Beatles, Jesus Christ and Pamala Lee >Anderson's udders is because of his allergy to bee stings well, perhaps he's just not as oppressive as any of those other things ;) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:00:28 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: daniel johnston Eb enthused >Daniel >Johnston show coming up on July 7th. I've never seen him, and I'd love to >go just on that basis. But guess who's listed as the opener? WILD MAN >FISCHER!!?? Damn! I don't think I can bear to miss *that* landmark event.... Saw DJ last year in London. Amazingly emotional experience, nothing of the freak-show about it at all. Strange foot-note: everyone was buying vinyl from the merchandise stall - it was very weird seeing dozens of people with these huge great 12" squares under their arms... The album itself, Rejected Unknown, is a very good BTW. On the same label (in the UK) punk-avant-jazz outfit Bablicon, replete with Neutral Milk Hotel drummer, have got a fine new CD out. Enjoying being a butler from the underside in The Importance Of Being Earnest. I will stand anyone who makes it to see me at the Watermill Theatre, Bagnor, Nr Newbury a drink. Robyn is obviously a Wilde fan - This is particularly apparent, I've come to realise recently, in their shared fascination with onomastics. jmbc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:29:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [music] LT, etc. On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Eb wrote: > The first band was the Lucksmiths, a scruffy British pop trio whom > I've never heard of, but who seem to have a following. I hadn't even > heard of their label...Drive In? Drive Thru? I believe it was > Ohio-based. They were OK, but didn't compel me to investigate them > further. Drive-In, who i think are from Michigan. the Lucksmiths are actually on Candle Records, a label in their native Australia (ahem), but Drive-In distributes them here. maybe the albums are now "co-releases". whatever. all three of them write songs, but the good ones are almost all by Marty Donald. Mark Monnone's songs try to be as clever as Marty's but end up just being more ostentatious about their inferior witticisms. also, they tend to be slower. actually, drummer Tali White, the one who sings everyone's songs, writes well, but infrequently. they sound more like the Go-Betweens than Belle & Sebastian to me, but the latter were the big name dropped when they started getting attention in America circa 1999. a ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #233 ********************************