From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #232 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, June 9 2001 Volume 10 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: THE GOLDEN AGE OF wireless... [GlamMonst@aol.com] Beck , Scientology , High Pitched Canadians and the Dalai Lama ["Maximili] Budapest By Blimp ["Scott McCleary" ] gross-out link of the day [bayard ] Album Scans ["Brian Hoare" ] RE: all sports, no Robyn ["Yudt.Matthew" ] Re: Song Question ["Kenneth Johnson" ] Re: Album Scans [Michael R Godwin ] when Woody Allen was funny... ["Natalie Jane" ] the golden age of wireless ["ross taylor" ] Re: Album Scans ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: the golden age of wireless ["brian nupp" ] I hear dead people [Glen Uber ] Album Scans ["Brian Hoare" ] [music] LT, etc. [Eb ] Hey--some totally factual Robyn content. Go 76ers! ["Dimple Burrows of Tu] UK boat trip...? [JH3 ] Re: Hey--some totally factual Robyn content. Go 76ers! [Tom Clark ] Re: when Woody Allen was funny... ["victorian squid" ] beck rumors ["victorian squid" ] Re: when Woody Allen was funny... [Stephen Mahoney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:51:55 EDT From: GlamMonst@aol.com Subject: Re: THE GOLDEN AGE OF wireless... The best show I've ever seen in my life, was Thomas Dolby's "Aliens Ate My Buick" at a small club in Boston. I still can't believe I paid $10 for the show.!!!! I'm a huge Dolby fan and a keyboard player....if you like his stuff, I highly recommend "Yummy" by Shecky and The Pimp Monkeys!!! You can get it at Not Lame...Worth every penny. Peace, Tiny. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:28:29 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Beck , Scientology , High Pitched Canadians and the Dalai Lama >and what's this i hear about beck having joined up with the scientologists? Supposedly half his band left him in protest over how much it has affected him. Just what Jews like me need to hear, at least we got Adam Yauch(the Beastie Boys) back from Buddhism. The somewhat hip members of my religion seem all too eager to abandon it. Hmmmm, now if we could get rid of Geddy Lee... Max Oh yeah, I almost forgot...G O S I X E R S ! ! ! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 05:55:16 -0700 From: "Scott McCleary" Subject: Budapest By Blimp I think it's one of Dolby's finest songs -- and certainly one of his two or three best (cleverest) arrangements. The way the song starts out with an intimate tone, opens up to a convincing stadium feel and then contracts into almost nothing (all through the clever use of effects live musicians punched in and some really nice effects) makes it one of my all-time Dolby favorites. Didn't Seligman play on his Astronauts and Heretics disc? Um, yes. That was after Dolby's regular bass player was killed touring with some really big-name female country star. Of course, everyone from the late Ofra Haza to the latening Eddie Van Halen is on that disc too. Hmm, Garcia's on one track too -- lots of dead people on that disc. np: Makato Ozone Trio, Pandora ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:06:25 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: gross-out link of the day share the pain... http://geocities.com/asianprince213/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:36:19 -0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Album Scans I have hastily assembled, over lunch, a geocities site with scans of Portland Arms and 2 Halves. The main page hs 300x300 jpgs, the links are to the original scans at 100 dpi (1200px square). I have had to stich the scans together so you notice a little seam about half an inch in on each one. I haven't attempted to clean up the scans so they are a little grubby in the white/cream areas. Please not that some of the marks/speckles on the Portland Arms' scans are because the photos are printed like that on the cover. http://www.geocities.com/bh_deja/ Hope its of some use. Brian _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:19:24 -0400 From: "Yudt.Matthew" Subject: RE: all sports, no Robyn > From: Miles Goosens > Subject: all sports, no Robyn > > Mattew Y. queried: > >Jim Kaat?? Yeah he was a good pitch, but I find it funny you > lumped > >him in with these guys. How about Pete Rose, Greg Luzinski, Dutch > >Daulton etc.. Jim Kaat. LOL. > > Kaat was nearing the end of his career during his late '70s Phillies > days, > and even though he was running on fumes at that point, he pitched > better > than his W/L record would indicate. But prior to that, he had a > long > (beginning in 1959 with the original Washington Senators) and > distinguished > career, good enough to make him a borderline Hall of Fame candidate. > I'd > say Kaat was as good as some pitchers who are in the Hall (Don > Sutton) and > some who aren't (Bert Blyleven). Certainly Kaat's career had way > more > value than "Bull" Luzinski's or Darren Daulton's. So wipe that > "LOL" off > your screen! :-) > Hey Miles, chill out : -) I never thought I'd get flaimed for a Jim Kaat comment! LOL. I know Kaat spent most of his last few days with the Phillies (didn't he go to the White Sox after Philly?) and was a damn good pitcher for a long time (I did say he was good) - As a life long Phillies fan I just found including Kaat with the others mentioned was kind of funny, that's all. His contribution "AS A PHILLIE" is certainly less than Daulton's or even Luzinski's. > (If you won't take my word for Kaat being a very good player, feel > free to > go to the invaluable http://www.baseballreference.com and do a > player > search for "Kaat.") > Thanks for the link! Cheers, Matt PS by the way its Matthew, but Yudt is good enough Game 2 in 10 hours... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:37:56 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: Song Question I am almost 100% sure they played Autumn Sea when I saw them on the Queen Elvis tour. Kenneth >From: Motherfucking Asshole >Reply-To: Motherfucking Asshole >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Song Question >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:32:15 -0700 > >he has *NOT* performed live?> > >Autumn Sea! i've only requested it about a jillion times. i asked >morris the other month, and he did confirm that the egyptians had >never played it live. the only other song from an egyptians album >that springs to mind is Luminous Rose (though a quick check reveals >that it *was* played at least once). > >another favourite of mine that has never been performed live is As >Lemons Chop. i asked requested it for the next night's show when >he was loitering at the back of the croc during the every bros. tribute. >i don't remember the exact wording, but his response amounted to, >"i know the one you mean, but i don't remember how to play it." > >i would guess some songs from YOU AND OBLIVION and INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK >(if you count those as "albums") have not been played live. Dr. >Sticky and Night Ride To Trinidad both *have* been played live. > >seems it would be fairly simple for hedges to quickly return a compleat >list by running a query against the access file. > > >some pretty interesting articles (to me, anyways) concerning radio >in this week's stranger. html>. > > >and what's this i hear about beck having joined up with the scientologists? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:41:59 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Album Scans On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Brian Hoare wrote: > I have hastily assembled, over lunch, a geocities site with scans of > Portland Arms and 2 Halves. > http://www.geocities.com/bh_deja/ Thanks very much, Brian! Never seen those 2 1/2s 4 the price of 1 pics before. I have 2 problems, though: The front of the Portland Arms doesn't appear on the page for me, just that annoying torn triangle square circle icon; and none of the links to the large scans appear to work - I just get a message that the page doesn't exist on Yahoo... - - Mike Godwin PS I note that like the tape, Melton is not credited with harmonica... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:45:25 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: when Woody Allen was funny... Susan remarked: >In a similar, slightly less fantastical (but only slightly), have you >ever >read the Woody Allen story "The Kugelmass Episode"? Yes, I love that story! There's that great part where all these college professors are wondering why this fat, balding Jewish guy is romancing Emma Bovary... and the part at the end where the protagonist is accidentally projected into a Spanish dictionary and finds himself being chased by "a large, hairy, irregular verb." When I was in high school, I wrote my own version of the story as part of an assignment. I remember that the protagonist got projected into "Casablanca," but the film had been recorded over "Birth of a Nation," so the protagonist ended up being pursued by an angry Klan posse. Woody Allen wrote some great stories, e.g. "The Whore of Mensa" where an escort service specializes in women who can discuss Melville with their hyper-intellectual clients. Or the investigation into UFO's, with its depiction of a man who was being followed by a bright red, cigar-shaped object - he couldn't shake it no matter how hard he tried, and finally realized it was his nose. n. p.s. I saw a great photo in the coffee shop today... a furtive-looking Dubya clutching a copy of "Presidency for Dummies." I was impressed by the seamless Photoshopping. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:49:58 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: the golden age of wireless Seligman on Golden Age of Wireless! I probably didn't know who he was last time I really went over the credits of that album. I don't have them with me, but there were big differences between the 2 versions of the album. Leipzig and Urges were on the 1st, and mixes were very different, at least for Radio Silence and Airwaves. I think Lovitch was on the 1st Radio Silence, which was more rock, & someone else on the 2nd which was jazzier (& I liked better). Listening to Flat Earth now it's fine, but it was a big dissapointment after GAOW, for me--more jazz oriented. I think around that time he covered Joni Mitchel's THe Hissing of Summer Lawns--a great record, but I remember thinking, uh-oh, I guess punk is over. Full mixes on the CD of Speaking in Tongues, huh? I'll have to check that out. Ross Taylor "it's a dull boy who doesn't care for sport" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:08:09 -0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Album Scans Mike G: >Thanks very much, Brian! Never seen those 2 1/2s 4 the price of 1 pics >before. > >I have 2 problems, though: >The front of the Portland Arms doesn't appear on the page for me, just >that annoying torn triangle square circle icon; and none of the links to >the large scans appear to work - I just get a message that the page >doesn't exist on Yahoo... > First prob should be fixed. I chucked it together quickly with Word at lunch time. Geocities' file manager says the big scans are there. This is the first time I've tried doing this, I put the jpgs there before getting word to build the html. If anyone feels the urge to sort out why the links dont work, tell me and i'll change it. Brian _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 12:33:28 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: the golden age of wireless >From: "ross taylor" > >Seligman on Golden Age of Wireless! I probably >didn't know who he was last time I really went >over the credits of that album. > I just purchased this CD for $4.99 (used) on www.gemm.com Looking forward to hearing it. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 11:17:35 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: I hear dead people on 6/8/01 5:55 AM, Scott McCleary at shmac@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Didn't Seligman play on his Astronauts and Heretics disc? Um, > yes. That was after Dolby's regular bass player was killed touring > with some really big-name female country star That's not Reba McEntire you're thinking of, is it? Her entire band and some of her road crew was killed in a plane crash about 8-10 years ago. She's the only one who springs to mind as a possibility. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 19:32:18 -0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Album Scans I think i've sorted the problem with the big scans. It's a long time since I used anything that was case sensitive about file names:). My home modem is too slow to be sure that the things will download (and I forget to interlace the jpegs ) but it does seem willing to try. Brian np Spirit (by Spirit) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:12:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: [music] LT, etc. Tiny: >The best show I've ever seen in my life, was Thomas Dolby's "Aliens Ate My >Buick" at a small club in Boston. Oof, guilt trigger. I was on the guest list for the local date of that tour, and didn't show up for some reason. This may be the only time I've committed that nasty discourtesy. I've never heard the first two Thomas Dolby albums, in their entirety. I didn't really care for Aliens Ate My Buick or that later one on Giant, but maybe I'd like the first two. I definitely liked the singles. I might be unduly biased against Dolby, just because that whole MTV synth-pop movement left me so ice-cold in general. Natalie Jane: >p.s. I saw a great photo in the coffee shop today... a furtive-looking >Dubya clutching a copy of "Presidency for Dummies." I was impressed by the >seamless Photoshopping. That's going around the 'Net -- I've had two different people send me scans of this. - ---- I saw the Ladybug Transistor at Spaceland, last night. A really fine show. The first band was the Lucksmiths, a scruffy British pop trio whom I've never heard of, but who seem to have a following. I hadn't even heard of their label...Drive In? Drive Thru? I believe it was Ohio-based. They were OK, but didn't compel me to investigate them further. Second up was another scruffy pop band called Irving -- but it *wasn't* the duo called "Irving" who opened for Of Montreal at Spaceland, a month ago. Huh?? I asked the ticket girl about this odd discrepancy, and she looked at me like I was insane. ;) Puzzling. However, Irving [2] was a bit limp and derivative for me -- it's not often you see current bands with the guts to sing harmonized la-la-la's.... The Ladybug Transistor has improved with each album, and correspondingly, I enjoyed this show quite a bit more than the previous time I saw them (also at Spaceland...in fact, they were opening for Of Montreal). There were six people onstage (four boys, two girls), but it sounded like even more, thanks to the members' versatility and abundant instrument-swapping. The violinist also played bass and keyboards at times. The guitarist (a really suave dude with a vintage Rickenbacker, whose economical style is obviously conceived in the tradition of old-time session soloists) also played some bass and keyboards. The keyboardist doubled on flute and melodica. The lead singer played trumpet, guitar and keyboards. The only person who stuck with the same instrument was the drummer. It was lots of fun, watching the permutations unfold. I'm not much of an "equipment geek," but I was also intrigued by the singer's guitar. It looked really old and primitive, and had only four strings. Yet I don't think it was a bass! It was a Danelectro model? Hrm. I enjoyed pretty much every song, something which I can't say for the earlier performance. The players aren't brilliant musicians, but they were incredibly well-rehearsed. Lots of songs had little Pet Sounds-y instrumental fills, which were very precisely composed and arranged. It all went smoothly, despite repeated requests to re-balance the mix in the onstage monitors. If you can stomach a group whose '60s influences are names like Lee Hazlewood, Jimmy Webb and Bacharach instead of the Beatles and Dylan, definitely check out this group. Their new album, Argyle Heir, is among the best three or four records I've heard this year, so far. The only problem with the Ladybug Transistor is the vocals. The singer has this low, tremulous, carefully formed voice which has a bit too much of that nerdy Anson Williams quality -- I can deal with it, but I can easily imagine someone else who would roll his eyes and wanna hurl a tomato at him. ;) I think the band might go over better with a more dreamy, boyish voice a la Belle & Sebastian. Or more practically, they might try softening his sound with more backing vocals. Given the group's ornate sound, it's kinda surprising that there *are* so few vocal harmonies. My old acquaintance Darian of the Wondermints was in the audience, and we were talking off and on throughout the night. I was somewhat expecting to see him, because I know he's a fan and I saw him at the past Ladybug show. He's still with Brian Wilson, and apparently left early this morning for Wilson's new tour with Paul Simon. Exciting. He was urging me to check out his girlfriend's band, called Candypants. Hrm. I'm heading back to Spaceland tonight, for the Lonesome Organist (aka Jeremy Jacobsen). He's opening for a band I don't know called Euphone, but I looked up the group on the Web and Jacobsen is apparently a peripheral member of this band as well. I'm eagerly anticipating this show. Geeky statistic: I believe the Lonesome Organist will become the 300th artist I've seen in concert, whom I own an album by. Ooooh. Oh, one more thing: I picked up a LA Weekly, and it listed a local Daniel Johnston show coming up on July 7th. I've never seen him, and I'd love to go just on that basis. But guess who's listed as the opener? WILD MAN FISCHER!!?? Damn! I don't think I can bear to miss *that* landmark event.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:23:58 -0000 From: "Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough" Subject: Hey--some totally factual Robyn content. Go 76ers! Tom: >I was 12 when the Phillies won it all in 1980. It was Phillies Fever alright. So you grew up in this area? Do you say atty-tude, rad-ea-ae-tor and buet-ee-ful? And what do you think bout those Iggles?;-) Natalie: >I'm sure some of y'all (Messrs Dignan et Godwin?) have read the >Harold >Shea >stories by Fletcher Pratt and L. Sprague de Camp. They're collected >in a >volume called "The Compleat Enchanter." The premise is that >some college >professors work out a way to project themselves into >various fictional >universes, including "The Faerie Queene." Harold >Shea, the series hero, >figures out (through comical trial and error) >how magic works in each >universe and gets hailed as an enchanter. >The stories are very funny an >well-researched, though a bit dated >here and there... e.g. Shea teaches >Britomart how to tone down her >tomboy ways and be a proper submissive wife >in order to better please >her fiance. 1--Now I know why the Hobbit name generator gave us the same first name. Love this book. 2--Sprague de Camp was a big supporter of the library. He would show up for all sorts of library events I adored him. He was one of those old-fashioned wags who liked to preen as a sly but courtly old dog and flirt with the younger female librarians. And I loved flirting back--he was absolutely fascinating, knew all this weird interesting stuff, had traveled everywhere, had canny observations bout life ... and flirted like the pro he obviously was. I not sure they still -make- guys like that anymore. A bon vivant in the best sense(and I dont think he even minded my tomgirl ways;-). I miss him. I think I rambled on like this after he died but ... those library receptions just arent quite the same. I miss him. Steve of bat boy fame--How do you -find- these links:-) Eb--Ok, so Woj can't bring any of his preeversions with him. But what about his postversions? Yesterday I think Steve(or someone) brought up whats wrong with the entertainment industry? I think the entertainment industry sold its collective heart, soul, liver, backbone and female-vibrating rib in about 1974(or, according to TS Eliot 1674.) Since then if you want to sign any sort of entertainment contract you have to go for a visit to a special island in the middle of the Indian Ocean. There they sample and then harness your DNA in a way which allows them to drain the life out of the above mentioned organs and faculties while still allowing you the semblence of being a functioning human being(thou there are still a few kinks in -that- system.) All is not lost however, as they do gift you with an extra asshole for all the extra shit you're going to produce. The reason Robyn is not bigger than the Beatles, Jesus Christ and Pamala Lee Anderson's udders is because of his allergy to bee stings--making him incapable of suffering a very necissary part of this process. The fact that he insists on making music with his original heat, soul, well--maybe not liver, backbone and female-vibrating rib all intact is seen as a scandle in some circles. Rumor has it that is only because of the benevolent guardenship of the Mighty Fairy Quim that Robyn has so far been able to elude the malovent forces of the aggrieved entertainment industry. How dare he be so good and not be their minion? It irks them that one so seemingly odd should nevertheless be so difficult to utterly undo. So next time you're in The Temple of Temporal Difficulties or walking thru the Champs de Zebras say a little prayer in your heart, soul and especially your female-vibrating rib to the Mighty Fairy Quim, that She may continue to guide Robyn safely thru the Valley of the Kiss of Death. Amen and Awomen. Love, Dimples, Go 76ers and fun in the sun Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:18:32 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: UK boat trip...? Have any of you UK fegs heard anything about whether Robyn & co. are doing another boat trip this year? There's a chance I might be able to make it over there this time, if such an event were to actually occur. Last year the boat trip was announced in late May and held on August 5, but there's been no announcement yet this year and he's playing the Edinburgh Festival in early August, so I suspect the trip's off. But if anybody knows anything one way or the other...? Thanks all, John "the vulgar boatman" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:49:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hey--some totally factual Robyn content. Go 76ers! on 6/8/01 1:23 PM, Dimple Burrows of Tuckborough at theyarenotlong@hotmail.com wrote: > Tom: >> I was 12 when the Phillies won it all in 1980. > It was Phillies Fever alright. > So you grew up in this area? Do you say atty-tude, rad-ea-ae-tor and > buet-ee-ful? And what do you think bout those Iggles?;-) I said no such thing. In fact, I was 17 when the Phillies won it all in 1980 and I was living in Connecticut. What I said was that I remember Tug McGraw when he was on the Mets in the early '70s, when I was growing up in that mecca of understatement, Long Island, NY. Lenny Dykstra will always be a Met, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: News and metanews. This starts as an article about super-vital front-page kind of news and turns into a "personality piece". This is a great demonstration about how big media is all about iconography and does almost nothing to truly inform the public. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:05:35 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: when Woody Allen was funny... On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 08:45:25 Natalie Jane wrote: >Bovary... and the part at the end where the protagonist is accidentally >projected into a Spanish dictionary and finds himself being chased by "a >large, hairy, irregular verb." I forgot about the irregular verb :). >Woody Allen wrote some great stories, e.g. "The Whore of Mensa" where an >escort service specializes in women who can discuss Melville with their I like how it's sort of pro-rated, and special jobs like, say, accompanying you to the Metropolitan Museum and being moved to tears are more than having coffee and talking about Poe in your apartment. Funny funny. Strangely, I'd almost chosen a similar title for my post. Not sure I want to debate about exactly when Allen -stopped- being funny, but I do know it was a while ago. I was watching "Celebrity" the other day and dam, it's pathetic. Also very weird and kinda vaguely unpleasant watching Kenneth Branagh be Woody Allen. loveonya susan I refuse to believe that Beck is a Scientologist. Couldn't he have waited til the next album came out? Doesn't he -know- I boycott Scientologists? :) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:32:24 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: when Woody Allen was funny... On Friday, June 8, 2001, at 10:45 AM, Natalie Jane wrote: > p.s. I saw a great photo in the coffee shop today... a furtive-looking > Dubya clutching a copy of "Presidency for Dummies." I was impressed by > the seamless Photoshopping. I wonder what they could do with this - http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010525/us/bush_naval_academy_wh206.html - - Steve __________ It is one thing for a software company to hype a product and then fail to deliver; it is another when the failure concerns nuclear weapons, for which "vaporware" takes on a whole new, literal meaning. - The Editors of Scientific American, on SDI ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:07:00 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: beck rumors Well, apparently this rumor has been around for longer than just these last couple months. Denials have been issued before. Here's one that will make Max happy. http://www.jewishjournal.com/06.30.00/beck.06.30.00.html loveonya, susan thought semi-seriously about conversion at one point when I was constantly falling for jewish guys and thought I might as well since I'd have to eventually Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: when Woody Allen was funny... On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, steve wrote: > I wonder what they could do with this - > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010525/us/bush_naval_academy_wh206.html looks like (it could be)a hand job to me! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:07:57 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: wireless, lucksmiths There are actually three versions of "wireless;" the first, brownish cover, dolby standing beneath an astrolabe or some such, has 'liepzig,' 'urges,' original versions of 'radio silence' & 'airwaves' (versions, i think, as opposed to mixes, and which, for the record, i prefer) no 'blinded' and no 'one of our submarines' and something else is different...'cloudburst at shingle street' i think, but that's a different mix issue. (this was stolen from me in 1990, working on memory). this is my favorite version - nothing wrong with 'submarines' but 'science' just doesn't fit on this record; it actually belongs on _aliens ate my buick_ We (the radio station gang and I) never found a way to distinguish the other two versions, which both had the blue test equipment cover, I surmise that maybe early pressings of the album had the standard track list (no 'leipzig,' no 'urges,' yes 'science,' yes 'submarines') but still had the original version of 'radio silence' and 'airwaves.' Latter pressings (and the CD release, unfortunately) subbed the re-done versions. some of the first version stuff, perversely, was released on singles for 'silk pyjamas' which epitomizes what makes later dolby increasingly intolerable. _flat earth_ was pretty good (& 'white city' was my introduction to robyn hitchcock) but after that it gets very spotty. * startled that Eb found the live lucksmiths 'scruffy' because on record, they're most definitely *not* -- very crisp, pristine in the way that these days inevitably draws b&s comparisons. i think they could do with a little scruffiness, even. ...we actually chose the studio where we recorded because the lucksmiths had tracked a handful of songs there as well as a bunch of the usuall skronky dc post-punk suspects. i wanted to work w/an engineer who got both our loud side & our pop side. - -- d. = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #232 ********************************