From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #224 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, June 2 2001 Volume 10 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: more pointless opinions from yours truly [Stephen Mahoney ] Re: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: more pointless opinions from yours truly [Miles Goosens ] RE: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! ["Bachman, Michael" ] A Sudden Town for Bayard? ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: A Sudden Town for Bayard? [Bayard ] Is there no more New? ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Is there no more New? [Capuchin ] possible Lestats [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! ["Maximilian Lang" ] Baldwin Street [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: more pointless opinions from yours truly [Ken Weingold ] now playing: brahams cello/piano works [dmw ] romper troopers ["victorian squid" ] Re: Demeter ["victorian squid" ] Change of Address [Terrence Marks ] Lord of the Onion Rings [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:17:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: more pointless opinions from yours truly On Thu, 31 May 2001, steve wrote: > On Thursday, May 31, 2001, at 09:14 PM, JH3 wrote: > > > Yeah, REALLY! I can't stand any of Anne Rice's work, but even > > *I* know they should have cast Julian Sands as LeStat! And > > of course Danny DeVito (or Danny Aiello, either one really) as > > Louis, and Wilford Brimley as Armand. > > > No! Richard E. Grant should have been every character, male and > female. > or the person who played the lead in blackadder. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:35:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Starship Troopers on 5/31/01 7:29 PM, Maximilian Lang at maximlang@hotmail.com wrote: > Obviously I hold this film in higher regard than most. Troopers is a > parody, it is a modern take on the superficial aspects of propaganda film. > Verhoeven finds propaganda to be evil and destructive. The dangers of > propaganda and the stupidity of the military are in full display in the > film. I have never read the book, I know it is supposed to be if not a total > departure then a radical one. I really think this film should be viewed as > an anti-propaganda film. And oh yeah, I'm a guy and I really like to see > stuff blow up :-) Plus, the world would be a better place if more movies included co-ed group shower scenes. Oh hell, for that matter the world would be a better place if there were more co-ed group showers! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:45:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! > So overall, I have to say I give "Staship Troopers" a thumbs-up, and > I have actually seen it seven times. Seven? Amateur. I'm up to about 20, and it gets better every time. Maybe I'll pop in the DVD and watch it again tonight. I'm quite pleased to read so many people stand up for this film. I think it's pure genius, with one heckuva lot of good ol' Amerukan chutzpah (erm, boobs, exploding bugs, paranoia, conspiracy theory, space battles, genocide, cultural imperialism, propaganda). Why humans capable of interplanetary travel would put footsoldiers on the ground, when they could have sent interplanetary nuclear warheads, is beyond me, however. Also, the toys which were sold for the movie are amazing. I have two Warrior Bug action figures at home, and they're beautiful and apalling. I adore the idea of painful, ugly bug toys meant for children. You should see the Obi toy sold for the last Star Wars movie, too. > PS: Other movies that I think were woefully misunderstood by the > unwashed masses: "The Fifth Element," Another movie that floors me every time. The Mondoshowan are amazing (the way they stop humans in their tracks with a sight wave of their head of gorgeous). The clothing, scenery, Plavalaguna's song, Gary Oldman's demented character (he nailed it), all good stuff. Everybody, repeat after me: "mool-tee-pass." Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:48:28 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! At 12:52 PM 6/1/2001 -0700, The Great Quail wrote: >PS: Other movies that I think were woefully misunderstood by the >unwashed masses: "The Fifth Element," Melissa and I saw it as Big Silly Fun, at which it was wildly successful in large part because of its playful, goofy pacing and essential good-weird nature (unlike, say, THE MUMMY RETURNS, which seems to have been shaped by the idea that MORE and LOUDER equals Better). We were tremendously entertained. Plus it's got Tricky! >"Bram Stoker's Dracula," Gorgeous sets in the best old-time-studio sense of the word "sets" (see also Burton's SLEEPY HOLLOW), sexy Brides of Dracula, an even sexier and nekkider Sadie Frost, Winona before she went all bony, Tom Waits eating bugs, and Richard E. Grant! *is* a lot to have going for a movie. Somehow Coppola managed to squander it all by forgetting to commission a script, allowing Keanu Reeves to be in the movie, and, worst of all, turning Dracula into the Minister of Silly Hairstyles. Now if Coppola had let Dr. Tongue and Bruno into it, like he had to do to finance what became 3-D STAKE FROM THE HEART, it might have rocked. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:55:23 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: more pointless opinions from yours truly At 10:17 AM 6/1/2001 -0700, Stephen Mahoney wrote: >> No! Richard E. Grant should have been every character, male and >> female. >> >or the person who played the lead in blackadder. Rowan Atkinson. Speaking of him (and if you can't stand MR. BEAN -- which was a better TV series than movie -- rest assured that his Black Adder in any of its IV-plus iterations is not like Mr. Bean at all), later this month the entire BLACK ADDER series comes out on DVD. Can't wait. Writers Ben Elton and Richard Curtis were the Lennon/McCartney of UK TV writers, much better together on BLACK ADDER than separately (though I'll take Elton and Lennon's edginess over NOTTING HILL and "Silly Love Songs"). queuing for a ticket for RON ANDERSON'S RUBBER-FACED REVUE, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Miller's Crossing Beaded by Colorful Vampires > So do you rec the Rosy Crusifiction--and why? I felt the trilogy as a whole were braver in their autobiographical content. it seemed as if Miller were writing from a more reflective first person point of view( I believe he wrote them from his home in big sur about 30 years after the fact) enabling him to present himself a bit more honestly with less ego and more warts and "very human." And yet even with the distance in time from when it all happened containing such vivid detail. And it was his relationships with his friends that seemed to be more of a focus in these books with the typical wild prose ramblings than his objectifying of women. Also it covered an interesting point in his life: starting where he was a 40 hour a week worker married and set in a more traditional life, the life his german parents wanted for him, to discovering that he was a writer and throwing everything away and going to paris. - -mahoney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:30:13 -0000 From: "3 Rose Cottage" Subject: TGIFeg Dignan: >but... I thought this list was librarians-anonymous! Ouch >Dunedin had to make its own music! Actually there's alot to be said for that. One of the signs of the fall of culture is the demise of the group-sing, the informal musical evening, even just a group of friends sitting around a table after dinner, abit drunk, at least one with a guitar, trying to remember old Beatle lyrics.(And if really drunk clearing the furniture out of the living room, putting on the records and dancing.) But really-- a bunch of people entertaining themselves has alot more going for it than a bunch of passive people sitting back wondering why the entertainments not better. (52 channels n nothing on.) (Either that or Ive got a fun dinner party to go to tonight and am totally psyched;-) Thanks Eclipse and Susan for the dirt... and rain ... tomatos, gingerale and the most seductive summer scent of all---gin and tonic(I think I could go broke over this sort of perfume.) And a shop in the East Village in NY. Sounds like Im going to have to be taking a trip soon. Miller: >And if you go to hottail.com, well, then, you'll find your dirty >dirty >porn ;) Yup--thats the sorta thing I ment. But thats with the two ts. I still stand by my claim that www.hotail.com (a more likely mistake for hotmail)is curiously unlocatable, at least for my server. Quail: >They also make clothing -- really strange clothing inspired by >Victorian and Edwardian styles. It's pretty pricey, though -- I >almost plunked down far too much for a deep purple and black >long-tailed velvet smoking jacket..... This Demeter thing is sounding more and more neato. I love dress up. >That's true, and better yet, they *encourage* play -- they have a >great store in the East Village, with plenty of scenters and other >stuff. The owner is usually hanging around, and loves to talk about >their more offbeat scents! My favorite is the "Virtual Kink" gift set >- -- Leather, Rubber and Vinyl! Bad Quail. Good bad Quail. Or is that bad good Quail:-)? Now I have to go to the site and admire your handywork. Mahoney, your Miller rec makes it sound worth reading. Thanks. Kay--have a great weekend everyone-- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:31:28 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! - -----Original Message----- >From: Miles Goosens [mailto:outdoorminer@mindspring.com] >Now if Coppola had let Dr. Tongue and Bruno into it, like he had to do to >finance what became 3-D STAKE FROM THE HEART, it might have rocked. It could even been staged in Mellonville and have the Mayor, Tommy Shanks in it as well. Maybe Mrs. Falbo could stop by. Doug and Bob, The Fishin' Musician (he blew up real good!), The Pre-Teen World gang, Guy Cabelllero, Sammy Maudlin and William B., Stan and Yosh Shmenge and the Happy Wanderers could provide the music, what a great idea! SCTV rocked! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:34:49 -0700 From: Chris Bedford Subject: Re: sensual prawns of the night Ever see the Japanese film "Tompopo"? A strange, slightly surreal tale involving the quest for the perfect Japanese noodle house and a kind of Japanese mafia character who mixes food with sex. In one sequence, he places live shrimp in a bowl of liquid, and places the inverted bowl on the abdomen of his lover. The fan-life tails of the crustaceans cause her to giggle with delight. Definitely a unique take on seafood and its role in sex. And yes, Anne Rice can write any topic--including sex and great food--to death. - -C ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: A Sudden Town for Bayard? I'm currently listening to the Soft Boys at KCRW recording from a few months ago, and before "Sudden Town" Robyn says, I think, "This is for Michele and Bayard." Is that really what he said? Cool! Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:37:52 -0400 From: scary mary Subject: Re: Demeter Quail - where is the store in the East Village? I need to know what Funeral Home smells like - formaldehyde? "I smell dead people"? Lilys? m np - The Golden Palominos - Pure ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:30:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: A Sudden Town for Bayard? On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > I'm currently listening to the Soft Boys at KCRW recording from a few months ago, and > before "Sudden Town" Robyn says, I think, "This is for Michele and Bayard." a nice thought, but i think he actually says "...in bed." The show must have been taped while she was sleeping. Robyn pronounces my name "Bay ahd" (as opposed to "Behd," which another British chap once used.) An old friend from Brooklyn (not lj) called me bay ahd for a long time too. it's a tough name to get a handle on! Who says there's only one right way anyway? just don't call me late for dinner.... =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Is there no more New? Ive long envied people who were able to experience the New when it happened. I would have loved to have been in the gallery when Jackson Pollocks first splatter painting was exhibited, or one of the first to see Braques analytic cubism. Or to have been at the radio when A Day in the Life or Good Vibrations debuted. I imagine those would have been quite remarkable occurrances: real eye-openers, paradigm shifts, ground-shaking experiences. I think these are innovations a lot of people take for granted, due to overexposure or whatever. I also think the chances of a similar innovation in expression occurring during my lifetime is pretty slim. If anybody thinks otherwise, Id love to hear it. Honestly, Id appreciate others opinion on this. Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Is there no more New? I'm not sure what to call the particular attitude you're displaying here, but it comes up quite a bit... not just now, but throughout history. I'm reminded in particular of Cuvier's Rash Dictum. Cuvier was a zoologist and biologist in the 18th and 19th century who claimed that we'd discovered and catalogued all of the living creatures above the insect. Now, Cuvier was pretty brilliant... he is responsible for identifying and naming the ground sloth and accurately pegged the pterosaur as a flying reptile. He proposed the first theory of extinction and ridiculed LaMarck's view of evolution. But he was dead wrong about how many animals were out there. Literally hundreds of new species have been identified since... and there are certainly more to come. Hell, the Vu Quang nature preserve in Viet Nam is still showing us new animals on about a monthly basis... including several new varieties of ox and antelope. The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. -- Ecclesiastes 1:9 There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home. - -- Ken Olson, President, Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977 On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > I imagine those would have been quite remarkable occurrances: real > eye-openers, paradigm shifts, ground-shaking experiences. Visualize the first email you sent or received. Think about the first hyperlink you followed. Recall the first time you heard a high quality audio clip off of a network. In the world of culture, there is the new frontier of electronic music. Listen to John Oswald's Plexure for something entirely new and different... groundbreaking and eye-opening. Hell, I think even Olivia Tremor Control is doing something that is as much of a shift from modern rock and psychedelia as A Day In The Life is from the traditional rhythm and blues and music hall that the Beatles wore on their sleeves. > I think these are innovations a lot of people take for granted, due to > overexposure or whatever. There is that attitude. I wish there was a good name for it. I'm sure the Germans have one long word that sums it up perfectly. It's just you, sir. There is new and wonder all around. And Good Vibrations didn't blow everyone away... nor did Pollack or Mozart, for that matter. Great changes are contextual and nobody is the same thing to everyone. You don't appreciate what you have in the now just as most people didn't appreciate Pollack when they had him or Brian Wilson when he was innovating. > I also think the chances of a similar innovation in expression > occurring during my lifetime is pretty slim. I think the chances of you noticing it happening in your current state of mind are nil. The world is full of wonder and newness. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:58:57 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: possible Lestats >> Lestat as he comesoff in his own book and those following is a somewhat >>different animal (devil?), and I don't see Cruise's portrayal working there. > >That hits the nail on the head. I think most of us who really didn't want >Cruise (ok, >that was more or less everyone who had an opinion) was thinking of the second >book. I wanted David Bowie, myself. He would have been great as that >Lestat. He's probably too old now tho. Willem Dafoe? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:03:08 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: AND...THEY'LL...WIN!!!!! >At 12:52 PM 6/1/2001 -0700, The Great Quail wrote: > >PS: Other movies that I think were woefully misunderstood by the > >unwashed masses: "The Fifth Element," I don't know about misunderstood, I liked it until Chris Tucker entered, after that...yuck >Now if Coppola had let Dr. Tongue and Bruno into it, like he had to do to >finance what became 3-D STAKE FROM THE HEART, it might have rocked. Is it just me or is NBC already starting to rerun it's selection of SCTV half hour episodes already? Most of them are the putrid Cinemax eppys. Oh, how I wish I could see Mr. Boom Microphone again! I said LUNCH not LAUNCH!!! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:15:51 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Baldwin Street >"Stewart C. Russell" wrote: >> Don't try this at all: >> >> http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,675183a10,FF.html >> >> Stewart > > >erm, what's a "wheelie-bin?" a rubbish bin, made out of plastic, with little wheels at the bottom. Stands about four foot high, top is about 2 foot square. Used in NZ instead of trash cans. As for Baldwin Street, it is two blocks away from Alice's in North East Valley. It is VERY steep - I have driven up it a couple of times with tourists, and walked up it once (that was enough). Every year they hold the annual 'gutbuster' race from the foot of the street up to the top and back down. To quote one website I found: "In Dunedin, I took time to see the world's steepest street. (See the picture above.) Baldwin St has a gradient variously reported to be '1 in 1.266' (Guinness); '1 in 2.8' (the souvenir shop ad); '40 per cent' (the cycle computer of the Swiss couple I met on the Taieri Gorge train); and 'urgh' (the wheezing of any cyclist foolhardy enough to try pedalling up it). Whatever, it's a dead straight, dead-end, concreted side road that goes 500m or so up a suburban hillside, and my goodness it's steep. [...] Too steep to cycle up: while pushing the bike up I stopped at one point with both brakes jammed on. With wheels locked the bike still squealed back downhill. From the top it looks like a skislope, with the sheerest part apparenly disappearing past a ledge - definitely too dangerous to cycle down, even for my mate Si." for more on Baldwin Street, try: James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:15:59 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: more pointless opinions from yours truly On Thu, May 31, 2001, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > >From: Ken Weingold > > > >I agree WRT Interview with the Vampire. When I heard that a movie was > >being made, the only one I could think of to play Lestat was James > >Spader. Tom Cruise wasn't bad, but he wasn't Lestat. > > James SPADER?! Yeah, I'm serious. I think that he is good looking, and could do all the different sides of Lestat. I can totally see that nasty edge. Think about it. Make any sense? > >And Banderas > >TOTALLY wasn't Armand, in no way, shape, or form. > > THE most disappointing part of the film. I think he > did an excellent job, but he was miscast. He made surprisingly > subtle sense of the character, and actually was probably a > better choice dramatically, but he wasn't the Armand of > the novels. He didn't have the innocence that gave the > emptiness some sympathy. Yeah, Benderas was great, but not Armand. I was kind of wondering if they ever made a movie of The Vampire Lestat, how he would be portrayed, giving the story of how he was made. I am sure they could change it all to fit him, but it would just ruin the character. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:38:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Is there no more New? I remember when the twin peaks pilot first aired and I seem to have a very faint recollection of watching one of the moon landings on tee vee....remember a while back some co workers going ape shit over a small band from seattle, nirvana before we all knew it they were bigger tan god. I never saw nirvana perform.I agree,its a rare thing to be present at a moment which will later become a paradigm shift and probably even rarer to realize that its a paradigm shift while in the moment of experiencing it. I am sure alont of those people who first saw pollocks splatter paintings probably didnt get it- there are some who still dont get it! > I think these are innovations a lot of people take for granted, due to overexposure or whatever. I also think the chances of a similar innovation in expression occurring during my lifetime is pretty slim. If anybody thinks otherwise, Id love to hear it. Honestly, Id appreciate others opinion on this. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:48:00 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: now playing: brahams cello/piano works On Wed, 30 May 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > Don DeLillo's "White Noise" is supposed to be a big PoMo classic. I ... > Noise" was an annoying book. I wanted to kill all the characters and > put them out of their hyper-educated, vacuous, miserable lives. I'm going to have to stick up for _White Noise_ .. for one thing I thought it was keen how many of the very obviously telegraphed plot elements don't actually come to pass. I thought the ending was pretty great. In addition I think it requires a bit of historical perspective. It does seem kind of trite now, but I think that's because many of it's themes have become mass culture tropes. I saw Todd Haynes' _Safe_ before I read _White Noise_, but it probably should have been the other way around. * Somebody who liked Stephenson was looking for recommendations. WHich Stephenson? For the historical (_Cryptonomicon_) mebbe Richard Powers' _Goldbug Variations_? for the cyberpunk mebbe Pat Cadigan, Bruce Sterling, Rudy Rucker, Lewis Shiner or, dare I say, Wm Gibson. * TGQ, encore un fois: > I have no opinions on replying styles. I certainly do. I wonder if the schism has a strong positive correlation with those who retain the full text of previous messages, vs. those who quote the specific passages to which they respond? - -- d. = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:45:52 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: romper troopers On Thu, 31 May 2001 22:29:59 Maximilian Lang wrote: >Obviously I hold this film in higher regard than most. Troopers is a >parody, it is a modern take on the superficial aspects of propaganda film. I picked that up. I don't really know how many of the millions who saw it did. Do you remember a conversation you and I had about "Romper Stomper"? To reiterate for those who don't remember this, I defended "Romper Stomper" as being anti-violence and critical of the white power movement it depicted, and Commander Lang agreed that this was indeed the intention of the film, but that white power kids watched it and cheered. Me feel same "Starship Troopers". >propaganda and the stupidity of the military are in full display in the >film. I have never read the book, I haven't read the book and have no desire to. I saw what it was trying to do. I even saw that the bad acting was part of the overall schema as most of the films it was referencing/commenting on feature horrible stone-faced acting. What I didn't see was that what it was trying to do succeeded. I also thought it was painfully boring. Now that I think of it tho, it wasn't worse than "Pret a Porter". For the moment that is the worst film I can think of, if only because of the amazing quantity of wasted talent. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:19:15 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: Demeter On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:37:52 scary mary wrote: >Quail - where is the store in the East Village? I'm not Quail but it's at 83 Second Ave. >I need to know what Funeral Home smells like - formaldehyde? I'm told it smells nauseating, like formaldehyde and oversweet flowers. Which is accurate in my experience, but I don't really want my body or environment smelling like that. Naturally YMMV :). Very curious about "old money" and "dregs" (dregs of -what-?) m'self. Not at all curious about "mildew". loveonya, susan victim of senility and perpetrator of temporary lang mixups, I'm just going to go hide under a rock now Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:56:10 -0400 From: Terrence Marks Subject: Change of Address My old college address has expired, on account of me graduating. I can't be reached through it at all. My new address is terrence@unlikeminerva.com. I'll be using that from now on. Thanks. - -- Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com The Nice (an organization for comic strips) http://nice.purrsia.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 21:51:35 -0500 From: steve Subject: Lord of the Onion Rings http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010531/re/leisure_lord_dc_2.html - - Steve __________ "...if you're having a hard time deciding whether you're actually talking to your best friend or a giant bug from the Proxima system wearing a mask of your best friend - you're having a phildickian moment." - K.W. Jeter ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #224 ********************************