From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #222 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, May 31 2001 Volume 10 : Number 222 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: off topic [Stephen Mahoney ] Fish Fright & other Meltdown attractions [Michael R Godwin ] Re: the scent of love [Stephen Mahoney ] sensual creatures of the night ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: sensual creatures of the night [Ken Weingold ] [none] [Melissa Higuchi ] less than Zorro ["Walker, Charles" ] Re: Clancy! Farina! Stephenson! And Eb! [Capuchin ] coupland also wrote a book about lara croft ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] backpeddlin' [Ken Ostrander ] [correction] Re: Stephenson! [Capuchin ] Fegoat stew ["3 Rose Cottage" ] fIREHOSE & Indifferent Man ["Walker, Charles" ] The Great B.E.Ellis debate ["Walker, Charles" ] Re:henry chinaski, henry miller, madison smartt bell ["ross taylor" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:25:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: off topic most definately worth seeing!!!! leo still has the stuff that he had when he released 6 and 12 string guitar the guy is also very funny in a dead pan way. On Thu, 31 May 2001, Mike Hooker wrote: > hi, > leo kottke is playing a gig near my home next week, 30.00 tickets. worth > seeing ?? > thanks > > take at look at my music trading list > http://pages.zdnet.com/mikehooker/hookstradingpage > > have fun, > Mike Hooker > Gallons by which daily U.S. oil consumption would drop if SUVs average fuel efficiency increased by 3 mpg : 49,000,000 Source: Sierra Club (Washington) Gallons per day that the proposed drilling of Alaskas Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is projected to yield : 42,000,000 Source: The White House Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:50:29 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Fish Fright & other Meltdown attractions Someone mentioned that the Residents are playing in London as part of the Meltdown season selected by Robert Wyatt. I have just seen the ad for the whole season and the venerable Ivor Cutler is also on the bill! Full listing (+= Queen Elizabeth Hall, *=Purcell Room, #=Royal Festival Hall): 7 June John Surman & Jack DeJohnette+ 9 June The Residents+ 10 " The Raincoats, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci+ 12 " Anja Garbarek, Mark Eitzel, Cristina Dona* 14 " Andrew Cyrille, Oliver Lake, Reggie Workman & Keith Tippett's Piano Quintet: Linukea+ 17 " Bill Laswell, Fred Frith, & Charles Hayward: Massacre Special guest: Chris Cutler+ 20 " Terry Riley All-Stars incl George Brooks, Gyan Riley, Tracey Silverman+ 20 " Philip Catherine Quartet, Labarriere-Kassap Duo* 21 " Max Roach, Special Guests: Matthew Shipp & William Parker Duo & Nikki Yeoh's Infinitum# 22 " David Gilmour, Special Guest: Sparklehorse# 22 " Meara Asher's Bodylab feat. Guy Harries* 23 " Tricky, Special guest: Saul Williams# 24 " Annie Whitehead's soup song tribute to Robert Wyatt featuring Elvis Costello, Brett Anderson, Julie Tippetts, Karen Mantler, Carleen Anderson# 24 " Mark Thomas* 26 " Elvis Costello & Steve Nieve, Special guest: Ivor Cutler# 27 " Baaba Maal# - - Mike Godwin On Thu, 31 May 2001, ross taylor wrote: > I always thought there was a bit of witchcraft in my sister's wool > products--for one thing she took hair off of *goats*, For this purpose, the goat is referred to as a Mo :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:03:43 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the scent of love on 5/31/01 9:09 AM, GSS at gshell@metronet.com wrote: > Since I don't wear perfume or cologne ever, the only thing that determines > how I will smell, besides the tobacco is whether I have sex in the morning > before or after I shower. The sex scent lasts all day and I can't think of > a better all purpose odor, except maybe a woodland bois or cannabis or > maybe jasmine. Patchouli has a weird effect on me, probably because the girl I lost my virginity to was a gauze dress wearing hippie chick who reeked of it. However, I still can't explain why the scent of cumin gets me hot. Oh, and I love the line in "Breathless" when Richard Gere says "No, don't take a shower. I want us to smell like we've been fuckin'." Words to live by. And on a completely unrelated note, I finally saw "Run, Lola, Run" last night. Very cool flick. "Manni!!!!!!", - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: the scent of love nag champa(sp) - that imported indian incense and some various tibetan incenses are quite effective for me. making curry from scratch is quite an experience as well On Thu, 31 May 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > on 5/31/01 9:09 AM, GSS at gshell@metronet.com wrote: > > > Since I don't wear perfume or cologne ever, the only thing that determines > > how I will smell, besides the tobacco is whether I have sex in the morning > > before or after I shower. The sex scent lasts all day and I can't think of > > a better all purpose odor, except maybe a woodland bois or cannabis or > > maybe jasmine. > > Patchouli has a weird effect on me, probably because the girl I lost my > virginity to was a gauze dress wearing hippie chick who reeked of it. > However, I still can't explain why the scent of cumin gets me hot. > > Oh, and I love the line in "Breathless" when Richard Gere says "No, don't > take a shower. I want us to smell like we've been fuckin'." Words to live > by. > > And on a completely unrelated note, I finally saw "Run, Lola, Run" last > night. Very cool flick. > > "Manni!!!!!!", > -tc > Gallons by which daily U.S. oil consumption would drop if SUVs average fuel efficiency increased by 3 mpg : 49,000,000 Source: Sierra Club (Washington) Gallons per day that the proposed drilling of Alaskas Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is projected to yield : 42,000,000 Source: The White House Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:53:52 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: sensual creatures of the night I never, ever throw away books - if I want to get rid of one I sell it - unless the book has completely fallen apart. "Interview with the Vampire" is the only new book I have ever thrown away, and I don't regret it. Rice's sickly purple prose made me literally feel ill, like I had a low-grade fever. Besides which, I am totally uninterested in vampires. With apologies to Quail and others, I don't find vampires to be sexy, intriguing, or mysterious; I don't want to be one or pretend to be one. A really good, inventive writer might be able to catch my interest with a book about vampires, but Rice is neither good nor inventive. The only good vampire flick I've seen is "Near Dark," with the trailer trash vampires. That was pretty cool. The movie of "Interview with the Vampire" was even worse than the book. n. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:09:55 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: sensual creatures of the night On Thu, May 31, 2001, Natalie Jane wrote: > The only good vampire flick I've seen is "Near Dark," with the trailer trash > vampires. That was pretty cool. The movie of "Interview with the Vampire" > was even worse than the book. I agree WRT Interview with the Vampire. When I heard that a movie was being made, the only one I could think of to play Lestat was James Spader. Tom Cruise wasn't bad, but he wasn't Lestat. And Banderas TOTALLY wasn't Armand, in no way, shape, or form. Another total cinematic atrocity of a great book, IMO, was Even Cowgirls Get The Blues. Wow, did that suck. And it left out my favorite quote from the book: - - Aren't all big boohoos misquoted? - - Misquoted, distorted, diluted, and deified. In that order. At the hands of his worshipers, Jesus suffered a far worse fate than crucifixion. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:35:41 -0000 From: Melissa Higuchi Subject: [none] beads someone here asked if girl fegs did any bead stuff. recently i've been drawn back into buying and stringing beads. mostly plain stone and glass in choker length strands on stretchy cord. I haven't made anything more elaborate than that in some time. I have made ceramic glazed beads which are a lot of fun but can be a big pain. The best ones were made of porcelain clay with pigments already added so that all you had to do was use clear glaze if you wanted them shiny. i've also done some raku fired ones which are much more dramatic - metallic glazes and any unglazed clay turns black. These were definitely more unique and involved than the stuff I do now which tends to be plainer and more fashiony. My favorite strand of beads is a dark blue strand of trading beads from Thailand or Laos. It is an incridubly saturated royal blue color that I have not seen anywhere else. smells i have a terrible sense of smell most of the time and don't usually notice perfume type smells but there are a couple that have quite an effect on me. I adore Dolce and Gabbana for Men and can spot it on people pretty easily. It can at time induce an effect not unlike beer goggling as far as making someone more attractive. books Any recommendations for a Stephenson fan? now back to looking for that perfect photo that says "my anti-psychotic medication is working" Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:03:48 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: less than Zorro Going thru back issues [i am behind]: "It's all very well to say "part of my point is to show that there IS nothing to them because they have no real sense of self". Fine, ok, but one should at least be able to tell major characters apart fer cryin out loud. A few times I had to flip through and figure out which major character was which, and I am not an inattentive reader nor especially lacking in the reading comprehension department." I havent read american psycho but i saw the movie and laughed my way thru it - - this seems to be b.e.ellis' main point in his books that 'these people' ARE completely interchangable and even they cannot tell each other apart for the most part, and that it is a good thing that you cannot them apart, from a reader's standpoint, not society's. my 2cents. chas in LA --> check it out: http://theweeklywalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Clancy! Farina! Stephenson! And Eb! On Thu, 31 May 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > By the way, I am reading -- for the first time -- Neal Stephenson's > "Cryptonomicon," which is blowing me away -- I am only 200 pages into > it, and it's one of the best books I've read in a long time. And > suddenly, there on page 180 or something, is a character named -- Eb! > > And what does Eb look like? A fellow with a reddish beard, and > uncontrollable long reddish-blonde hair -- in other words, like me! I don't know if it's in the text or not, but I imagined Eb being Quite Tall and a bit burly... and more reddish blonde than reddish brown. Also, no curls. I found most of Cryptonomicon really engrossing and interesting. Even the technical bits on cryptography and electronics which were quite familiar weren't patronizing in their explanation. I'd be interested to know what someone who has no experience in those subjects thought of the book. I think it was all laid out very clearly. The first two thirds... maybe even the nine tenths of that book are really good. But I still don't think Stephenson can write an ending. His books have gotten progressively better, but the endings are all tacked on. He saved face this time by saying that this is the first book of some kind of trilogy, but I really don't see it going anywhere. I do think it's interesting that Cryptonomicon kind of sets the stage for the world of SnowCrash, which sets the stage for the world of The Diamond Age. They're not QUITE the same world, but they show the roots quite well. Quail, I'm very interested to hear an early analysis of why you like the book so much. Please feel free to write to mee off-list. (I hope the harsh words of our political argument don't have too much impact on how we relate in general.) On Thu, 31 May 2001, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > Any recommendations for a Stephenson fan? I would highly recommend his non-fiction, if you haven't already read it. His article on the telephone system in China (and most importantly, why it hasn't impacted their culture the way it did in western Europe) is quite good and has a clever title: Mao Bell. His article on laying undersea fiber optic cable is very well-written and informative and speaks to data transmission in an historical context and has a stupid title: Mother Earth Motherboard. And his essays on human-machine interface and how they reflect the death of culture are a quick and fascinating read: In the Beginning Was the Command Line.... The last is available as a paperback book. The other two are a little harder to find. Both were published in Wired Magazine at one point and I'm almost positive Wired keeps all issues (one issue behind the news stand) online for posterity. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:35:28 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: coupland also wrote a book about lara croft >From: Capuchin > >I REALLY liked Girlfriend in a Coma when I read it (just after its >release). I just didn't like the characters, and the premise didn't work for me at all. I don't know what it is -- seems like everyone I know has no trouble identifying with Coupland's characters and Dave Eggers's "characters," but I can't warm to them in the least, with the aforementioned exceptions. >And I found the incessant Smiths quotes charming. I'll bet I love the Smiths more than you do :) and I didn't dig that very much. Though there is a certain poetry to the fact that Coupland was doing to Morrissey what Morrissey did to his literary heroes (working quotes into the prose/lyrics directly, with no attribution, usually with no real relationship to the original context). My favorite colors: dark rich green, velvet red/burgundy, papyrus, gold, obsidian, any shade of brown except "khaki," purple of all kinds. Creamsicle orange is rising in the list. >From: "3 Rose Cottage" >Or do you want to start a "my weird >masochistic streak" thread for -all- Fegs? I don't have a masochistic streak at all, weird or otherwise, unless the sadist indulging it is me. I ferociously resist any pain (physical or emotional) inflicted on me by other people, but there's no such ban on self-inflicted wounds, for me. n.p.: You and Oblivion (the album), which I finally bought again after having sold it years ago. I'm enjoying it more than I used to. Happy day. And now: the bootlegs... - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:25:21 +0100 From: "Spencer Kelly" Subject: Anybody wanna trade SB shows ? Hello there, After a month of getting various trades over an' done with, plus having a heavy schedule at work, I have some free time to trade some of the SB shows from this year. I recorded 6 of the UK shows on my MiniDisc (Cambridge, Bristol, Brighton, Norwich, London, and Portsmouth), although some distortion is noticable on the London show, they're all pretty good recordings. I am after several of the US, and the remaining 3 shows I didn't get to see here in the UK. In between heading off to the gigs, I pitch-corrected all the early SB tapes in circulation (Radar Sessions, Rehearsals, '...Ate Brick' LP, Fulham, Hope & Anchor, etc.). This was a pretty tough job, but they sound OK. I am also seeking known low gen. SB material from 1977-1981. If anyone is interested, please get in contact and I can send my list (in word). Yip-a-Dang ! Spencer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:33:56 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: backpeddlin' >>Feg challange--is there really anywhere a Robyn >>track with -no- lewd or erotic content? ( or no lewd or erotic >>content lewd and erotically- minded fegs can read into it)? doubt it. despite the quote about happy the golden penis, i could find double and triple entendres in anything. >I miss fIREHOSE i saw them play on the flyin' the flannel tour. sebadoh and the blake babies opened. what a great show! watching mike watt break strings and restring his bass in seconds was worth the price of admission. >mr.mister's kaylie(a) is stuck in my head >ohhhhh I need some "europa and the pirate twins" to flush it out!!!!!! is that 'kyrie'(not to be confused with mozart's requium) or marillion's 'kayleigh'? anyhow, when you aren't able to listen to something else to flush away the nastiness, try singing 'amazing grace' to the tune of 'gilligan's island'. >An aside - if you like Midnight Oil, you might also find it worthwhile >checking out Hunters and Collectors, particularly "Human frailty', >"Fate/What's a few men?" and "Cut". i've always thought that that petrol emotion were very reminiscent of the oils. >> infinite jest by w.f. wallace. just got it. > >I've read this -- twice (plus a couple false starts). It's an >incredible book, well worth the time and effort it takes to read. >And it's very funny, and very sad, and very true. i got it mainly because it's set where i live. some friends warned me that it's a bit difficult; but that just seems to goad me on... >>anyone else out there a fan of hank? > >but doesn't it get to be all the same book? i think i've actually read the same story in three different books. anyhow, his style is pretty much the same throughout. still, it's very readable. post office is still my favorite. maybe because it's so short? >howabout henry millers rosy crucifixion trilogy? only read sexus; but i'm a big fan of mr. miller. the two tropics are fantastic. very similar to bukowski in the seedy content, if not the actual writing style. you can get lost in some of his rapturous prose; but it's worth it, i think. >- this seems to be b.e.ellis' main point in his books that 'these people' >ARE completely interchangable and even they cannot tell each other apart for >the most part, and that it is a good thing that you cannot them apart, from >a reader's standpoint, not society's. oh man. that's sooooo deep. i can see what he's getting at trying to criticize the hoytee toytee upper crusties; but even within that people do have personalities and character. it strikes me as rather lazy...and boring. >I've been trying to think of the worst book I've ever read... "Generation X" >springs to mind, but I didn't read the whole thing. the story was pretty trite. for me, the ongoing glossery of slacker terms was the best part of the book. describing office cubicles as veal fattening pens was twisted genius. >I thought Anne Rice's first two vampire books were great, so did i. i made it through queen of the damned; but not body thief. it's bad when you look forward to the bits of poetry at the beginning of each chapter more than the actual chapter. >I don't find vampires to be sexy, intriguing, or mysterious what about mummys? or seafood? ken "smell ya later" the kenster np boy u2 why you'll never see a poem as lovely as a tree reams of pulp to print poetry anthologies no one even reads ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: [correction] Re: Stephenson! On Thu, 31 May 2001, Capuchin wrote: > His article on the telephone system in China (and most importantly, why it > hasn't impacted their culture the way it did in western Europe) is quite > good and has a clever title: Mao Bell. The correct title is "In the Kingdom of Mao Bell". Apologies. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:02:16 -0000 From: "3 Rose Cottage" Subject: Fegoat stew Susan: >Another actually good hippie-era book I got for around two dollars >and >don't see people mention too often is "Been Down So Long It Looks >Like Up >To Me" by Richard Farina. I read that decades ago along with Joan Baez's autobiography(Daybreak? Daylight?) Remember I liked it at the time--but nothing else about it. I was 14 and scarfing stuff down pretty uncritically. At the same age I also read Leonerd Cohen's "Beautiful Losers." Now -that- was an eye-opener! BTW--Im still looking for that "dirt" perfume you mentioned. More Susan: >I do like hunter green a lot, bright greens not so much. I wouldn't >say >that I >strongly gravitate to it the way I do towards cherry reds tho. I love a light bright spring green. Dignan: >Correctly, kye-COW-rah; usually kye-KOO-ruh. It means eating crayfish > >(kai= food, koura = lobster or crayfish), which is a local delicacy >FWIW, and touching on another recent thread, the Maori name for the >South >Island is Te Wai o Pounamu, the water of greenstone. >Pounamu/greenstone is >a specific type of jade, highly valued (both >economically and spiritually) >by the Maori, and workable into >beautiful jewellery. Am I the only one here whose starting to hate James for living in a veritable Garden of Eden? My only consolation is that Robyn has never toured there. Because if he did--he'd probobly never come back to the hellish Western hemisphere where most of us poor Fegs reside. He'd just hang out in James's back garden playing with koura inlaid with greenstone. (Sound of Kay grinding teeth.) Next time Robyn sings "Trains" we may well hear about "Basingstoke or ... Dunedin." Mike Hopper: >leo kottke is playing a gig near my home next week, 30.00 tickets. >worth >seeing ?? He did great guitar stuff in the 70s but I have no idea what he's like now. $30 sounds high -- guess they figure all the old hippies are prosperous now. And willing to pay for nostalgia. Ross: >And there's something about watching a herd of >goats that makes you know you're not in the >suburbs. Long-haired mohair goats w/ full, >white beards hanging from their jaws & gnarly >horns kinda like the goat on the Goat's Head >Soup insert. Supposedly they were the first >domesticated farm animal in the fertile >crescent. So there you are: >goats->Egypt->Egyptians->Robyn Hitchcock Ross, thanks for a Robyn-goats connection cause I -love- goats. Not only am I a Cap, but growing up I spent part of every winter in the Caribbean surronded by herds of goats--and being an only/so-youngest -dost-count, I played with them all the time. The kids are adorable. I used to imagine I was a goatherdess in ancient Greece. Goats can get really tame. The only drawback is that they really will try to eat anything--which includes youre clothes:-). Anyway Ive never understood why goats have a demonic rep. They are curious, friendly, usefull animals who give us hair, milk and cheese after grazing on the dryest scrub grass. And also ---I must sheepishly admit--goat curry tastes great too;-) Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:18:18 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: fIREHOSE & Indifferent Man >Chas in LA writes - I miss fIREHOSE Saw them once in Cleveland in 1988 and they were an intense treat indeed! I believe SCRAWL opened up for them. I wish I would've recorded that show. :( Nuppy I saw fIREHOSE several times in the college days - 88-9?? One show at the Cat's Cradle I'll never forget - they always put on a great show in Chapel Hill b/c James Worthy went to UNC. Mike Watt was peeee-laster the whole time but played so amazingly well. Ed seemed a bit scared of him at the show and even tho he was the 'front' man, it was definitely Mike's night "making the freeway safe for the freeway" anyway as they finished their last song of the last encore, Mike guzzled and spilled/poured a can of Bud and shouted to the crowd over the din of the final electrical flourish - "Now go out and start your own Damn band!!" It was one of those - "I get it" moments, like when I saw Lou Reed for the first time, just seeing him walk out on stage - his presense and all of that - - I "got it." cool stuff, Chas in LA http://www.theweeklywalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:27:18 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: The Great B.E.Ellis debate Funny how so many folks are writing opinions on BEE's work, generally toward the negative, but he is getting more print/attention than anyone else. Good art/Bad art - yes it does exist, but the real death of art is when it disappears from the cultural dialogue. Love him or hate him or indifferent to him {:0I}X there is a lot of talk about his work going on here. The more you talk about him, good or bad, praised or persecuted, his work becomes more important automatically due to the inherent content of the dialogue surrounding his work. Personally I think his work is funny and people read it [and so many other things] with too serious an ear/eye/whatever. There is no such thing as bad press, comes to mind. It also made me think about that fertility doctor who used his own sperm to impregnate hundreds of women - a chubby little bald dude. Biologically speaking, he is a better man than ALL of us fellows on the list because of that. I am not sure what the tie in is, but there you go. Chas in LA http://www.theweeklywalker.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:42:19 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re:henry chinaski, henry miller, madison smartt bell jill sunderlin -- >So Madison Smartt Bell -- I'm curious if anyone's read his writing. I think Madison Smartt Bell seems to be still under construction as a writer, but that he is somebody to watch. I've just started "All Souls Rising," 1st of his two novels about the Haitian slave revolt. IMO he's someone who writes too many books too fast. (Ralph Ellison wrote one book, but it was a hum-dinger.) I can wax kinda emotional about Bell's 2nd novel, "Waiting for the End of the World." It's flawed, but certainly hit me where I live (maybe literally, living in DC, the one place most likely to get hit by a bolt-from-the-blue nuclear strike in the 80s, & being involved in anti-nuke stuff). In it, some folks try to set up a home-made nuclear bomb under NYC. At times it wants to be a thriller, but it has more in common w/ Dostoevsky, or Joy Division when they are being melodic. It has some supernatural content, but most of it's eyes are turned to the real world. (I told you I could wax about it.) Then I read "Doctor Sleep"--all flash & no substance--and "Year of Silence"--maybe too subdued. But both interesting. I like his short stories. He's got 2 collections, both pretty good, have entertainment/thrill factors as well as craft & insight. I think his descriptions & language in general show real gift, and I'm big on how stuff *sounds.* ======== Thomas Pynchon, creator of Sir Eric Bongo-Shaftsbury (Egyptologist, possible British agent, possible electro-mechanical doll)-- I used to like to try to convince people that Pynchon himself was the creation of a committee of mad National Security Agency operatives who wanted to divert the energies of the counterculture into interpreting strange books. I still haven't read Vineland, but I'm gonna. Laurie Anderson's song "Gravity's Rainbow" sounded like a personal love poem. Then, on a later tour she seemed to be Jonesing for Dylan, wearing Hiway 61 type sunglasses while singing a "Just Like a Woman" chorus. I thought this was just star f-f-fantasy until she ended up w/ Lou Reed. Ross Taylor Free Eudora allows only 48 keystrokes on a line. The previous line is exactly 48 keystrokes long. In fact, all three of these reach 48 keystrokes. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:36:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: video A lot of people have responded to my Fast Forward video post, and that's great because it makes me feel that I have this PAL/NTSC converter for a reason. As I said, I'm going away this weekend (college reunion - will I survive?) so I won't get to much before Monday. Some of you have already heard from me, but I probably won't reply to most requests until I get back. I can usually get one to two tapes done a day; next week I'll start cranking them out. Jill, who graduated from college between the Kinks Soap Opera and Sleepwalker (name that year!) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #222 ********************************