From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #215 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 26 2001 Volume 10 : Number 215 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: books and a plea for help [HAL ] Re: books [Ken Ostrander ] Re: words, words, words & Voyager finale ["J. Brown" ] Re: reading [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] them thing what got wurd down in them writ big bunches, yeah? [dmw ] Re: various book stuff [Jon Fetter ] Re: books and a plea for help [steve ] Rushdie [The Great Quail ] Re: books ["victorian squid" ] Worst x 2 [Eb ] Re: dead trees ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Worst x 2 [Aaron Mandel ] Re: various book stuff [Christopher Gross ] Re: books [Traveling Riverside Blues ] Re: books and a plea for help [HSatterfld@aol.com] Fwd: South Park ["Sirloin Stockade" ] RE: South Park ["Brian Huddell" ] 0% South Park [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:27:36 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: books and a plea for help James: > *The doors of his face, the lamps of his mouth (Roger Zelazny) steve: > and maybe Lord Of > Light, by Roger Zelazny. I keep seeing Zelazny's name on these book lists. Can anyone who knows his work tell me anything about the book(s) he wrote that were illustrated by Vaughn Bodi? How they came to collaborate or any other info? Kenneth: > -From Hell by Alan Moore (words) and Eddie Campbell (pictures); graphic > novel of the Whitechapel murders that has an appendix as thick as the main > body of work, supporting the theory of a royal cover-up and free mason > assassin behind the murders. > -David Boring by Daniel Clowes; recently discovered Mr. Clowes and have yet > to be disappointed by anything he has written/drawn from "Like a Velvet > Glove Cast in Iron" to "Ghostworld" Good to see these making the lists. Both have been reviewed in the mainstream and that certainly seems to be generating interest and sales. Still won't save the comics industry, but it's nice to see! Dan Clowes is the subject of an interesting (and lengthy) interview (with an hilarious cover piece) in the latest Comics Journal (#233) about the imminent GHOST WORLD movie. (FROM HELL is soon-to-be-a-MMP as well.) One of the interesting things Clowes mentions is that Marvel's new leader, Joe Quesada, has (apparently) talked Peter Bagge into writing SPIDERMAN (!) Bagge wants to do it with Peter Parker cast as a Joe Matt type (!) Clowes was asked to draw it, and so was R. Crumb (!) Both considered it, but alas, neither agreed. Could be special with the right artist (either Clowes or Crumb would've been amazing.) I hope something materializes out of the idea that doesn't disappoint too much. At least Marvel is *attempting* some new ideas recently after years of dreck. And, since we're on comics for a moment and are plugging our faves, I'll risk being redundant by again (and nicely, I hope?) recommending CEREBUS by Dave Sim and Gerhard. 'Nuff said, true believers. > if you can get past the > telepathic gorilla Right! (or the talking aardvark) /hal ps - "real" books I've recently read and enjoyed: Memoirs Of A Gnostic Dwarf - David Madsen Easy Riders, Raging Bulls - Peter Biskind The Picture Of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:55:22 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: books >The *worst* book I ever read i'm gonna say american psycho by bret easton ellis. >Read somewhere recently a poll which classified as "voracious readers" those >who read 7 or more books a month--a figure which seemed low to me. Am I >naive or do most Fegs top this? i read many books at once...many more than seven, plus all of the magazines and online news sources...but to actually finish them, now that's something. here's a sample of the ongoing reading list i have going these days: the nader reader. a shambala translation of the dhammapada. fellowship of the ring by j.r.r. tolkien. almost done. this is my commute to work reading. people's history of the united states by howard zinn. my bedside reading, i'm through the first chapter. great pop things by colin b. morton and chuck death. basically, a comic book about the history of rock culcha. another jonboy langford project. it's hysterical! http://www.pipeline.com/~biv/FallNet/comix/ ulysses by james joyce and the odessey by homer. i've been doing a questionable experiment trying to read one chapter of one and then one of the other. slow-going and on the back burner. infinite jest by w.f. wallace. just got it. a spirituality of resistance: finding a peaceful heart and protecting the earth by roger gottlieb. another new one. ken "ilovermont" the kenster np the revolution will not be televised gil scott-heron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:12:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: words, words, words & Voyager finale On Fri, 25 May 2001, Kenneth Johnson wrote: > -From Hell by Alan Moore (words) and Eddie Campbell (pictures); graphic > novel of the Whitechapel murders that has an appendix as thick as the main > body of work, supporting the theory of a royal cover-up and free mason > assassin behind the murders. Be sure to check out Mr. Campbell's solo stuff too. > -David Boring by Daniel Clowes; recently discovered Mr. Clowes and have yet > to be disappointed by anything he has written/drawn from "Like a Velvet > Glove Cast in Iron" to "Ghostworld" Even "Needledick the Bug Fucker"? Be sure to pick up the collection of short stories called "Caricature". Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Put your faith in death because it's free" -Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:38:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: whatcha readin'? On Fri, 25 May 2001, Eclipse wrote: >i read a lot of magazines, also; my current favorites are "Giant Robot", a >zine devoted to Asian pop-culture; "Bizarre", a brit mag filled with weird >pictures, weird people, weird stories, sex, fetish gear, and all kinds of >awe-inducing factiods and whatnot; I, too, am an avid reader of Bizarre. I just can't get enough of it. The fact that I have been reading Bizarre for a few years might explain my fascination with the stileproject web site. Other mags I read regularly include MacAddict, ESPN the Magazine, Maxim, Stuff, FHM and Weekly World News. My wife subscribes to People, so I tend to peruse that at some point during the week as well. I tend to read more magazines and newspapers than books, but I seem to manage to keep a book in every room in the house as well as in the car. Currently, my reading list is as varied as my CD collection. These are the books scattered about my house that I am working my way through: "Insanely Great : The Life and Times of Macintosh, the Computer That Changed Everything" by Steven Levy "Bulfinch's Mythology" "The 90s Book of Lists" by Wallechinsky and Wallace "Men On Top" by Nancy Friday "Andy Kaufman Revealed! Best Friend Tells All" by Bob Zmuda "Christianity and the Rights of Animals" by Rev. Andrew Linzey I saw that Carole mentioned "Fast Food Nation". That's actually next on my list after I go back and read "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" in memory of Sir Douglas. I also recently discovered the Happy Hockey Family series of books and hope to read more of them soon. My favorite books of all-time are "On The Road" by Jack Kerouac, "The Giving Tree" by Shel Silverstein, and "In Watermelon Sugar" by Richard Brautigan. I loved most everything by Richard Scarrey when I was a wee lad. The book I couldn't wait to finish was The Scarlet Letter which was forced upon my bored, rebellious mind when I was a 16-year-old who had just discovered weed, Bob Dylan and my own dick. Though he comes highly recommended, I have never read anything by that well-known Dutch author, Charles Dikkens. ;-) >np: the pimple commercial tune from "Putney Swope", over and over again, >in my head. make it stop!! Wow! So you're the other person who's seen that movie. Brilliant! Cheers! - -g- n.p. "School of Ass" by Holy Zoo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:40:44 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: reading >> I'm a remarkably slow reader - I'm often reading several books at a time, >> but it takes me weeks to finish any of them. Part of that is because I was >> largely put off reading by postgrad study (nothing kills the pleasure like >> being forced to read) > >Phew! I am SO glad to hear that someone I consider to be smart and >interesting is also a very slow reader. :) thanks for the comments, and they're reciprocal. >However, my problem is probably a bit different from yours, James. > >I'm actually a slow reader. I mean to say, I take longer than most folks >to get through a page. me too - it isn't just lack of time or inclination - I'm one of these people who 'internally hears' what he's reading, so I only read at the pace I could read a book out loud. >I really liked several of Peter Carrey's books, but others I simply >couldn't enjoy at all. Bliss and The Tax Inspector are the big standouts >for me. You can keep Oscar and Lucinda. the film's a lot of fun, though... >Actually, for music related reads, does anyone have a copy of Stephen >(AKA Dogbowl formerly of King Missile) Tenney's _Flan_? I love the >album and would love to read the book. my partner's just finished reading a Salman Rushdie book which is filled with rock music in-jokes and references. He knows his rock music better than I would have expected, by the sound of it. She gave it a tentative thumbs up, although she said bits of it don't hang well together. Sadly I can't remember the title - anyone? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:48:18 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: them thing what got wurd down in them writ big bunches, yeah? Right now: Colson Whitehead _The Intuitionist_, a thirdish through, but looks like a possibly bona fide fegbook, what with sinister doings among rival bands of elevator inspectors. Some really good writing here, too. Recently: funnily enough, a pair of Pratchett's discworld novels (sue me, my brain needed a vacation) and a pile of Lawrence Block's "Burglar" novels. These almost all have exactly the same plot: Bernie Rhodenbarr burgles someplace (and generally somehow doesn't notice) where a murder has just occurred, or will shortly occur. In order to not be arrested for the burglary, he must solve the murder, usually with the reluctant aid of his corrupt cop buddy. He meets a woman, who is often, but not always, directly related to the case, and sleeps with her. Block gets an aweful lot of mileage from this skeleton, through some strange alchemy I can't quite fathom. It's gratifying to see all the praise for Phil Pullman's "Dark Materials" trilogy. I'd urge it's fans to check out the quartet of Victorian novels, starting with _Ruby in the Smoke_. Far less ambitious than Dark Materials, they nonetheless feature a spunky, unconventional heroine a la Lyra (older, though) and are crisp and suspenseful. I can't remember any squid, but there is a malevolent monkey, so that's something. Caveat: Do NOT read the back jackets of the US editions before they read them. Major damn spoilers. It's actually a trilogy; "Tin Princess" is a related (lighter) volume, sorta like one of those things where the king has an identical twin among the commoners, veryy erroly flynn derring do. the others are more suspense-oriented I think I was joking when I suggested Stephanie Barron's Austen pastiche mystery novels should be included as fegbooks, much as I like 'em. Also briefly noted: Matt Ruff's _Public Works Trilogy_ has a talking Ayn Rand-head lamp as a major character, not to mention mutant NYC sewer alligators. I thought it was fun, but it's central mcGuffin bothered me a bit -- one of its fundamental premises is that (virtually) every person of African descent has been killed by a mysterious plague. It's fairly PC for all that, but I felt weirdly self-conscious reading that book when I was the only white person on the train -- I guess that's just my problem, huh? but it made me feel uneasy. Ruff is kinda Tom Robbins gone sci-fi. He's got an earlier book, the title of which escapes me at the moment, which he clearly started while in college (it's set on the campus) -- oh yeah, it's _Fool on the Hill_. It's sillier, and more naive, but I kinda liked it anyway, although it came close to pegging my cutsey meter, what with talking rats, etc. Fay Weldon, especially in _The CLones of Joanna May_ and _Life and Loves of a She-Devil_ is mordant and British and (sometimes grimly) funny. Stephen Fry not only plays the imperturbable Jeeves in the swell BBC series, he's also not at all a bad novelist. I read both _Making History_ and _The Hippopotamus_ and enjoyed 'em both a fair bit, "History" rather more than (the earlier) Hippo. Since people keep mentioning science fiction, I'll not that "History" is, among other things a time travel/what if they killed Hitler sort of thing. "Hippo" seems rather indepted to Kingsley Amis (I thought it particularly evoked the elder's _The Green Man_). That's probably enough for the moment. WHoever was looking for good kid's books should seek out some Susan Cooper, who should come to mind when you think of Alexander (the non hack-work, anyway), L'engle, Wynne Jones, Pullman, etc. The worst book I have ever read is _In Darkness' District_, by Thomas somebody or other. In more despearate need of an editor than anything else I've ever seen. Not to mention a proofreader, but the first step would be to cut its length by half; no point proofreading all the stuff that would have to be cut. - -- d. np spongetones _oddfellows_ = i do what i am told. i am not opinionated. i accept without | dmw@ = questioning. i do not make a fuss. i am a good consumer. |radix.net = pathetic-caverns.com * fecklessbeast.com * shoddyworkmanship.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:50:56 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: words by birds > Wow. It strikes me that there are no women on there. This is unintentional > and a bit surprising. What chicklit should I have been reading? (note to > the easily offended: "chicklit" is (a) a joke (b) in reference to the fine > website (http://www.chicklit.com/) of the same name). I'd second the Atwood comment. I'd also suggest some Penelope Lively, Ursula le Guin, Vonda McIntyre, Janet Evanovich, and Ellis Peters (real name Edith Pargeter) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: words by birds the parable of the sower by octavia butler On Sat, 26 May 2001, James Dignan wrote: > > Wow. It strikes me that there are no women on there. This is unintentional > > and a bit surprising. What chicklit should I have been reading? (note to > > the easily offended: "chicklit" is (a) a joke (b) in reference to the fine > > website (http://www.chicklit.com/) of the same name). > > I'd second the Atwood comment. I'd also suggest some Penelope Lively, > Ursula le Guin, Vonda McIntyre, Janet Evanovich, and Ellis Peters (real > name Edith Pargeter) > > James > > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance > -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time > =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") > Gallons by which daily U.S. oil consumption would drop if SUVs average fuel efficiency increased by 3 mpg : 49,000,000 Source: Sierra Club (Washington) Gallons per day that the proposed drilling of Alaskas Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is projected to yield : 42,000,000 Source: The White House Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 23:46:57 -0400 From: Jon Fetter Subject: Re: various book stuff >Does anyone else out there like Patrick O'Brian? (I see Mike Godwin >mentioned him on the Fegbooks page.) Again, they might not be too Feggy, >but I love O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin books. Great plots, great period >detail, and some of the best dialogue and descriptive prose I've ever >read. The Hardy Boys meet Jane Austen. O'Brian's books are sorta Feggy in that so much arcane vocab is used that a low level of background surreality is maintained. Someday I will read the series again armed with both the O'Brian Lexicon and the Map Book. What really needs to be published are more detailed diagrams of the ships in the books, rather than the standard "Diagram of a square-rigged ship with its sails hung to dry." Jon __________________________________________________________________ "With the growth of boredom and restlessness, he saw, cruelty and subtlety and revolt were growing apace. There was more and more cosmic abnormality, more and more curious sadism, more and more ignorance and superstition, and more and more desire to escape out of physical life into a half-spectral state of electronic dispersal." --H.P. Lovecraft, "The Mound" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 21:03:42 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: books and a plea for help On Friday, May 25, 2001, at 05:27 PM, HAL wrote: > I keep seeing Zelazny's name on these book lists. Can anyone who knows > his work tell me anything about the book(s) he wrote that were illustrated > by Vaughn Bodi? How they came to collaborate or any other info? They're two hardbacks in a single slipcase, published by Donald M. Grant, long time small press publisher of SF, Horror, and Fantasy. Grant does the HB editions of King's Dark Tower novels. I wouldn't be surprised if Zelazny and Bodi met at a SF Convention or SFWA meeting. > ROGER ZELAZNY > > HERE THERE BE DRAGONS > > WAY UP HIGH > > ILLUSTRATED BY VAUGH BODE > > During a term as Secretary-Treasurer of the Science Fiction Writers of > America, Roger Zelazny, winner of six Hugo awards and three Nebula awards, > met Vaughn Bodi. Admiring each other's work, they joined forces in the > creation of WAY UP HIGH and HERE THERE BE DRAGONS. Roger had written the > stories in the late 1960s and found Vaughn's work ideally suited to his > text - "Vaughn really liked drawing kinky reptiles and lizards" so the > illustration of Bell/Belkis was a natural. Edition of 1000, $80.00. http://www.grantbooks.com/Roger-Zelazny.html - - Steve __________ No previous administration has tried to sell its economic plans on such false pretenses. And this from a man who ran for president on a promise to restore honor and integrity to our nation's public life. - Paul Krugman, on Bush, from his book Fuzzy Math. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 22:32:49 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Rushdie James writes, >my partner's just finished reading a Salman Rushdie book which is filled >with rock music in-jokes and references. He knows his rock music better >than I would have expected, by the sound of it. She gave it a tentative >thumbs up, although she said bits of it don't hang well together. Sadly I >can't remember the title - anyone? Rushdie's new one is a pomo retelling of the Orpheus story, and is called "The Ground Beneath Her Feet." It is indeed filled with musical in-jokes, puns, and literary allusions. In order to research how a huge rock band operates, Rushdie toured with U2; though the central band in the book is nothing like them. Best, - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:18:08 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: books On Fri, 25 May 2001 19:55:22 Ken Ostrander wrote: >i'm gonna say american psycho by bret easton ellis. Wow, that is amazing. The worst book I ever read is "Less Than Zero", also by Bret Easton Ellis. "People on LA freeways are afraid to merge". Wow, that's, like deep. Loveonya, susan P.S. I know some of you will enjoy this excellent website: www.sesameseventies.com n.p. "disco frog" in real audio from the aforementioned site Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:23:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Worst x 2 The worst notable book I ever read was probably Joan Didion's Play It as It Lays. I had to read it for my very last class of college, some literature course satisfying the upper-division writing requirement. I read the book, thought it was the nadir of idle-rich self-pity (maybe that's the same reason some of you hated Less Than Zero) and wrote a mercilessly negative essay on it. Sometime between turning in the paper and getting it graded/returned, I discovered that the professor was actually sort of a Didion *specialist*, and had published several articles and things about her. Ooops. Suddenly, I was a lot more nervous about my grade. Well, he gave me an "A" anyway, even though he was obviously a bit wounded by my view. He also passed out copies of my paper to the entire class to read, discuss and critique. A little embarrassing, especially because almost everyone thought I was overly harsh. Heh. In a related story, I heard Reveal tonight. Worst...REM album...ever. Badly Drawn Boy *and* Rufus Wainwright ("California") were on late-night talkshows, last night. Wow! Unfortunately, I missed Badly Drawn Boy. I'd love to know which song he performed. Eb now ehhing: Nikka Costa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 07:51:03 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: dead trees > >From: Marshall Needleman Armintor >> Jorie Graham. Start (or stop, as well) with _The Dream of the Unified >>Field_; the only American poet, in my opinion, whose work is worth > >following... Hmm, never heard of Jorie Graham. I can name several living poets worth following: Bruce Adams, Clark Coolidge, Stephen Rodefer. And one of my absolute favorites, Anslem Hollo. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:54:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Worst x 2 On Sat, 26 May 2001, Eb wrote: > Badly Drawn Boy *and* Rufus Wainwright ("California") were on > late-night talkshows, last night. Wow! Unfortunately, I missed Badly > Drawn Boy. I'd love to know which song he performed. "Everybody's Stalking". i thought i'd seen pictures of him before, but if i did, they did not capture the facial hair, the chunkiness, the horrid clothing or the unimposing stature. he was definitely the sort you'd cross the street to get away from, which maybe explains the weird stage behavior people have described. a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: various book stuff On Thu, 24 May 2001, Jon Fetter wrote: > The Hardy Boys meet Jane Austen. O'Brian's books are sorta Feggy > in that so much arcane vocab is used that a low level of background > surreality is maintained. Someday I will read the series again armed with > both the O'Brian Lexicon and the Map Book. What really needs to be > published are more detailed diagrams of the ships in the books, rather than > the standard "Diagram of a square-rigged ship with its sails hung to dry." How can they use that same diagram in every single book in the series?! Stupid publishers.... A great reference book, if you can find it, is Nelson's Navy: The Ships, Men, and Organisation, 1793-1815 by Brian Lavery, with an introduction by none other than Patrick O'Brian. Also keep an eye out for Persons, Animals, Ships and Cannon in the Aubrey-Maturin Sea Novels of Patrick O'Brian by Anthony Gary Brown; I haven't read it, but judging from the title, it should be pretty handy. - --Chris np: Musical Evenings with the Captain, a collection of works mentioned in the Aubrey-Maturin books ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:51:15 -0700 From: Traveling Riverside Blues Subject: Re: books OK, just had to stick my two cents in. I finally got around to reading "Into Thin Air" by Jon Krakauer, a first person account of the disastrous 1996 Mt. Everest expedition in which about half the members perished. It's absolutely gripping... I read it in one sitting; wound up staying home on a Saturday Night because I couldn't put it down. Then, three weeks later, I picked it up again to look at a page or two and wound up reading the whole thing in one sitting again. Not exactly highminded stuff, but if you're into adventure/man-against-nature stories it's a great read. What really struck me about it was how fragile human life really is, and how inhospitable some environments on our own planet are - more like outer space than earth. The nuts-and-bolts info on taking an expedition into such an environment for several weeks is fascinating. The changes such environments wreak on people's bodies and minds are so incredible it's a wonder anyone ever makes it our alive at all. The image of one of the guides being stuck on top of the mountain when a satellite call gets patched through from his wife in New Zealand, and them talking and trying to sound optimistic when they both know it's the last time they're ever going to speak to each other, is heartbreaking. (The call was picked up by climbers lower on the mountain. The guide was never seen again.) On the down side, the disappointing thing is how many of the personalities involved are disagreeable. Krakauer himself doesn't come off as an entirely sympathetic character. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:02:52 EDT From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: Re: books and a plea for help jlbrand@bu.edu said: > He loves Lloyd Alexander, Phillip Pullman, > Diana Wynne Jones, David Eddings, JK Rowling (duh), Brian Jacques, and > Madeleine L'Engle. If any of you has the time or inclination, could you > write me off-list with some recommendations? I highly recommend the White Mountains trilogy by John Christopher. (And no cheating by reading the prequel "When the Tripods Came" first.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:33:11 -0700 From: "Sirloin Stockade" Subject: Fwd: South Park i get these sorts of questions on a fairly regular basis. i imagine eb fields similar queries regarding claudine. in other humourous news, here is, in its entirety, the entire "spiritual calendar" as reported in the may 23 issue of the mukilteo beacon: Jesus & Java Broken Chains worship band will perform 8 p.m. Friday, Jun 1, in the Words of Life Christian Church in Mukilteo's Jesus & Java Coffeehouse. At 6 p.m. Sunday, June 3, Jeff Quinell will talk about heroin addiction and homosexuality, also at the coffeehouse, which is located at the corner of Mukilteo Speedway and 84th Street SW., in the 7-11 strip mall. [i pointed this place out to chris f. -- not knowing 'til now that it's called "Jesus & Java" (which is a pretty damned (har, har) funny name in itself) -- and suggested that it might be called "GodMart" or "Pray 'n' Save" (or what have you). From: "No one In Particular" To: etews@hotmail.com Subject: South Park Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:24:24 -0400 Okay, I have a question about something a character says in the movie and maybe you could answer 'cause my friend won't explain it. Mr. Garrison refers to "poontang" What is that? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:24:15 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: South Park Eddie was asked: > Mr. Garrison refers to "poontang" > What is that? I'm dying to know, what was your answer? Did it start with "Well, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much..."? +brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:43:13 -0700 From: Eb Subject: 0% South Park >i get these sorts of questions on a fairly regular basis. i imagine eb >fields similar queries regarding claudine. Top three questions, which dominate far beyond all others: 1. "What is Claudine doing, nowadays?" [um...hanging in Aspen with her hubby, as far as I know] 2. "Do you have any current pictures of Claudine?" [no] 3. "Do you have the lyrics for 'Nothing to Lose'?" [no, and I really should transcribe/post them, one of these days] Speaking of which, this week's "Gilmore Girls" rerun was the legendary episode with the Claudine Longet plug/discussion. ;) Napster download suggestion: Today, I heard a song called "Kiss Kiss," by a dance-music artist named Stella Soleil. This is the most remarkably awful piece of music I've heard in ages. Everybody should hear this, to calibrate the low end of their critical-assessment meters. Just imagine a song which uses a *kissing sound* as its hook.... Ebtang now ehhing: Widespread Panic (huh, a fIREHOSE cover...how 'bout that?) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #215 ********************************