From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #199 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 16 2001 Volume 10 : Number 199 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: small rant about Douglas Adams ["Brian Huddell" ] RIP - The Bozo Show [HAL ] Re: prat chet ["Motherfucking Asshole" ] Re: Adams [steve ] RE: Adams [Terrence Marks ] Re: prat chet [Mike Swedene ] [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes [Eb ] bush energy plan fwd [the minister of misinformation ] Re: prat chet [Miles Goosens ] Re: Adams [Miles Goosens ] Re: [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes [Mike Swedene ] Bargain [Eric Loehr ] Re: [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes [Glen Uber ] Re: Bargain [Ken Ostrander ] Re: Crock 'n Roll ["Mike wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:06:18 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: small rant about Douglas Adams James Dignan: > There was tons of humour in science fiction > before Adams - > Asimov, Bretnor/Briarton, Pratt & De Camp, Garrett, Bester, and Sladek, to > name just several. And please let's not forget Kurt Vonnegut, not to mention Kilgore Trout. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:40:20 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: prat chet >From: "Stewart C. Russell" > >All will be right with the world if you buy Jim White's "No Such Place" It's very good indeed. I actually got into Jim White when I saw him open for David Byrne on the "Feelings" tour (a show I'd count among my favorites). I don't listen to him very often but about half of his songs are just incredible. I'm really fond of "Still Waters," from the Wrong-Eyed Jesus album. As for the new David Byrne: I've heard the first 4 songs and they're delicious. Looking forward to finishing it. >From: Glen Uber > >There's a radio talk-show host here in San Francisco who signs off each >night with, "Remember: It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is >permission." That's totally not true. "Better," _maybe_, but not "easier." Trust me. >From: "Thomas, Ferris" > >An animated one would have been a good idea but all that ever came out was >that dreadful (and I mean wretched) Bashki thing. This may not mean much coming from the guy who loved the David Lynch _Dune_, but I really liked the animated LOTR and Hobbit films. As with the _Dune_ film, they got me into the books. Maybe I only loved them because I was a kid, though. And honestly I'm not a big fan of LOTR, most of which I find pretty dull, though I suppose I have to "respect" it. I don't like Bakshi much in general, though (was it him doing the films? for some reason I remember "Rankin/Bass"). I guess _Wizards_ is supposed to be his masterpiece and it creeped me out and bored me. I suspect his historical importance outweighs his wide-audience appeal. Oh, and to compound my Philistine tendencies: the original _Planet of the Apes_ bored me and I don't expect the new one to appeal to me that much either. I trusted Tim Burton up until that awful Sleepy Hollow. Marky Mark and the female lead should make for nice eye-candy, though. >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >Get yourself some Terry Pratchett or Tom Holt. I like Adams a lot but I can't abide Terry Pratchett. One or two of the books were funny and then I found his style and sense of humor just unbearable. Not quite as bad as Piers Anthony, but not too far off. All of my die-hard F/SF fans love him, though, so what do I know? Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:07:37 -0600 From: HAL Subject: RIP - The Bozo Show From the latest TV Guide: "At the peak, there were 205 Bozos on TV worldwide...But on August 26, the last Bozo in America will sign off at WGN in Chicago." http://wgntv.com/station/bozotime/index.html /hal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:05:52 -0700 From: "Motherfucking Asshole" Subject: Re: prat chet , . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:45:55 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Adams On Tuesday, May 15, 2001, at 03:51 PM, Stephen Mahoney wrote: > I suppose you like those dreadful new (anti)disney pieces of shiet > (that is including anything AFTER the first rescuers(1977) to the present) > they must cause walt to turn over in his grave!!!!! Totoro kicks Disney butt - past, present, and future! Hey, the crazy librarian lady is going to be a regular on Angel - Steve __________ No previous administration has tried to sell its economic plans on such false pretenses. And this from a man who ran for president on a promise to restore honor and integrity to our nation's public life. - Paul Krugman, on Bush, from his book Fuzzy Math. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:50:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: RE: Adams On Tue, 15 May 2001, Stephen Mahoney wrote: > ralph is one of the best character animators in the biz!(if not the best!) > INHO!!!! You apparently saw a different version of American Pop* than I did. It's almost as if Bakshi had never seen a movie or a cartoon before and was making it up from vague descriptions, and heavily rotoscoped. It's definitely interesting, in an Ed Wood/Joe Meek sort of way, but I wouldn't describe him as good at what he does. *: And Cool World. And Wizards. And Lord of the Rings. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com The Nice (an organization for comic strips) http://nice.purrsia.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:07:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: prat chet > >From: "Thomas, Ferris" > > > > >An animated one would have been a good idea but all > that ever came out was > >that dreadful (and I mean wretched) Bashki thing. > > This may not mean much coming from the guy who loved > the David Lynch > _Dune_, but I really liked the animated LOTR and > Hobbit films. As with > the _Dune_ film, they got me into the books. Maybe > I only loved them > because I was a kid, though. And honestly I'm not a > big fan of LOTR, > most of which I find pretty dull, though I suppose I > have to "respect" > it. I loved or liked the DUNE movie too, My friend got the box set with the deleted scenes (on laserdisc) and in a different order than the original. it was very cool (IMHO) and got me into the books. I am sure, most of you will agree, anything that inspires one to read is a GOOD THING :) > I remember "Rankin/Bass"). I guess Rankin/Bass's best work is in the Christmas specials. I got the nickname "Herbie" in high school because I look like the elf who wants to be a dentist from Rudolph claymation special (complete with flippy hair thing). Love, Peace and Christmas specials in May, Herbie Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:16:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes So, I finally saw Oasis for the first time on Monday. My first time seeing the other two bands, as well. I was really jittery about the evening's logistics -- far more than usual. With most venues, I know exactly how to get there, *exactly* where I'll park, what time to arrive, etc. Since I hadn't been to the Greek since *1984*, I felt much less confident. I didn't even know how to get there, until I studied a map. The trip worked out quite well, however. I found a choice parking spot on a nearby surface street, and as a result, avoided not only the $7 parking fee but the log jam of post-show traffic. Well done! My seats weren't anything to boast about: about halfway up (which equaled about 80-90 feet from the stage). Several folks around me were with the press. I saw three different people taking notes, and another was wearing an official CNN badge. There were also some TV cameras in other areas, including ones from Reuters and VH1. Practically the first person I saw upon passing the entrance turnstile: the ubiquitous Jason Falkner. The place was a little smaller than I remembered. I believe that it seats around 5,000. It was eventually a full house, but not during Spacehog's opening set. Later, I found out this group also includes brothers, so the "Brotherly Love" theme even carried down to the third act. Cute. Their songs had decent melodies, but were annoyingly derivative and shallow. The singer has this one-speed, Ziggy Stardust bleat, and is totally unable to downshift to a more subdued style. In fact, he even *spoke* with the same tone. Ugh. Spacehog played only seven songs, lasting about a half-hour. One was their hit "In the Meantime," one had a central riff almost identical to the Who's "Can't Explain" and another had a long prelude which incorporated sort of an abstracted, disco version of "Thus Spake Zarathustra." In any case...blah. The seats were filled, by the time Oasis came onstage around 8. It also had turned dark, during the interim. The audience immediately stood up when the music started, and it was soon apparent that this was more of an Oasis audience than a Black Crowes one (this was confirmed by the slightly milder response to the Crowes' headlining set). We've all seen Oasis on television, and there were no real surprises. Everyone who has ever told me about Oasis shows (even if he/she is a fan) warns something like "They're not too exciting onstage, you know," and yeah, this group is not keen on stage presence. They just nonchalantly stand there, concentrate on fingering the right notes and never exert themselves physically. And then there is Liam's truly bizarre singing style. I knew all about his hands-behind-the-back, sing-from-underneath-the-microphone posture, but this time, he had to deeply *crouch* on one leg to do it. He almost looked like Frankenstein's Igor, his position was so awkward. I had a hard time getting used to this. There were six players, total: Liam and Noel, plus a guitarist (Andy Bell from Ride, right?), a bassist, a drummer (a good one, whoever he was) and a keyboardist. The songs were generally strong, even if they opened with "Go Let It Out," a really banal single which I was already sick of, the first time I heard it. I believe they entirely ignored the Be Here Now album...interesting. I don't have the exact set list, but other songs included "Morning Glory," "Fade Away," "Acquiesce" (one of my favorites), "Look Back in Anger" (ditto), "Champagne Supernova," "Gas Panic," "Cigarettes & Alcohol" (Liam puts on a John Lydon-esque sneer for this one, which I wish he used more often), "Columbia," a tune which I can't identify as yet (the chorus melody reminded me of Stevie Wonder's "Uptight"?) and a closing encore of "I Am the Walrus" (I don't much like what they do to this -- they just bludgeon through it without nuance or dynamics, and I miss the Beatles' inventive string arrangements). Yes, "Wonderwall" was skipped. I guess what gets me about Oasis is that they're always tuneful, yet they never sound "prissy" like so many other contemporary British bands. It's partly Liam's voice and partly the thick wall of aggro guitar, but the sound always rocks. I appreciate that. I wonder how many more albums they can grind out, before brotherly tensions put the band on ice for good? Frankly, I'm surprised they've lasted even this long, so maybe they'll continue to surprise me. As for Liam's notorious "volatility," there's not much to report. There was very little speaking, and I had trouble understanding his few mutterings because I wasn't seated close enough. The Black Crowes? Hrm. I don't have a deep knowledge of the band's catalog (I've only heard one BC album from beginning to end), so I felt out of my element here. But if Oasis was about good songs and a boring performance, the Black Crowes were the other way around. Chris Robinson has an exciting voice and an eyecatching bag of stage moves, but I was really tired of the music by halfway through the set. Hey Crowes, guess what? The Rolling Stones wrote songs based on riffs *and* melodies, not just riffs. I'd say I fairly enjoyed about four tunes ("Midnight From the Inside Out," "Greasy Grass River," the slightly proggy "Cosmic Friend"...), but a couple of others really stunk. Particularly, one called "Lickin'," which I gather is on the band's new album. They did play "Remedy" and "Twice as Hard," but the setlist generally passed over a lot of their popular songs (or at least, this is what a nearby friend told me). The final song was a grandiose cover of the Bee Gees' "To Love Somebody," which included return guitar cameos from Noel Gallagher and Andy Bell plus some extra female singers. If one of them was Kate Hudson, I was too far away to tell. I don't think she was there, however. This is where I sign off, but not before asking if others have seen the new Nissan commercials which pirate the hook from the Who's "Bargain"? Ouch, that *hurts*. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:53:04 +0930 From: the minister of misinformation Subject: bush energy plan fwd Yo fegs , I can't take advantage of this form of protest because every time I try to mail Bush my e-mail gets bounced back- I guess the bastard is boycotting any international comments about his dismal record on the environment, but you green fegs may want to follow up this campaign . commander Lang Bush Energy Plan: No Road to Energy Security TakeAction@environmentaldefense.org Dear dave, You can take action on this alert either via email (please see directions below) or via the web at: http://actionnetwork.org/take-action.tcl?key=1590820A21110B0515034552C236 Spread the word about Global Warming. 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A balanced, thoughtful energy strategy should move us away from reliance on fossil fuels and nuclear power, not increase it. Rather than giving in to pressure from the oil, coal and nuclear lobbies, lead us toward a cleaner, healthier, more secure energy future. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 12:58:37 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes On Wed, 16 May 2001, Eb wrote: > So, I finally saw Oasis for the first time on Monday. My first time seeing > the other two bands, as well. > Everyone who has ever told me about Oasis shows (even if he/she is a > fan) warns something like "They're not too exciting onstage, you > know," and yeah, this group is not keen on stage presence. I've never seen them, but some mates of mine saw them at Roskilde one year and said that Liam was very charismatic on stage; but he's known for being very erratic, which is why I've never tried to see them. The report in the Daily Mirror about a gig over the weekend said that the current Noel-Liam vibe was extremely bad and that they were hardly speaking to one another. > plus a guitarist (Andy Bell from Ride, right?) Right. > a tune which I can't identify as yet (the chorus melody reminded me of > Stevie Wonder's "Uptight"?) "Roll with it" possibly? > and a closing encore of "I Am the Walrus" (I don't much like what they > do to this -- they just bludgeon through it without nuance or > dynamics, and I miss the Beatles' inventive string arrangements). They played it with a full string section on Jools Holland once and it was pretty impressive. But I don't think it adds anything to the Beatles recording. > But if Oasis was about good songs and a boring performance, the Black > Crowes were the other way around. Chris Robinson has an exciting voice > and an eyecatching bag of stage moves, but I was really tired of the > music by halfway through the set. I saw them a couple of years ago and I concur. Robinson does a very good Paul Rodgers voice, a reasonable Mick Jagger impersonation, and a fair shot at Ian Gillan too. But they didn't seem to have made up their minds whether they were a Faces-style rock band or something freakier in the space-jamming mode. - - Mike Godwin PS To Meltzer fans: I just got 'St Cecilia' by the Stalk Forrest Group from Rhino. Sizzling 1970 Byrds / Dead music with most lyrics by Richard Meltzer. Favourite line: "Pants above the knee are knickers. Mainly worn by football kickers." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:08:46 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: prat chet Quoth Drew: >>From: "Stewart C. Russell" >> >>All will be right with the world if you buy Jim White's "No Such Place" > >It's very good indeed. I actually got into Jim White when I saw him >open for David Byrne on the "Feelings" tour (a show I'd count among my >favorites). I don't listen to him very often but about half of his songs >are just incredible. I'm really fond of "Still Waters," from the Wrong-Eyed >Jesus album. The problem with Jim White's albums is pacing -- almost every song is great, but both of his albums are too long and have too many midtempo whispery songs, so I get sorta bored after a while. He's brilliant, though. I too saw him open for David Byrne on the FEELINGS tour, and both gentlemen were *superb* that night. >As for the new David Byrne: I've heard the first 4 songs and they're delicious. >Looking forward to finishing it. Since I'm much fonder of Byrne's post-Heads career than almost anyone else I know, and FEELINGS was maybe the best thing he'd done on his own since MUSIC FOR THE KNEE PLAYS (where's the CD of that, dammit?), I'm very up for this album. >This may not mean much coming from the guy who loved the David Lynch >_Dune_, but I really liked the animated LOTR and Hobbit films. As with >the _Dune_ film, they got me into the books. Maybe I only loved them >because I was a kid, though. I saw DUNE as a teenager, and I had read every DUNE book. My reaction upon adult viewings of Lynch's film is mostly the same -- Lynch serves up tons of images and ideas, and gets across some things that I would have sworn would never translate from the page into a visual medium, but it *needlessly* deviates from the book in ways that don't improve the film (ex: Harkonnens as Bloodsucking Freaks rather than just as Really Evil Guys). And I'm a huge Lynch fan -- I treasure every other Lynch film and his TV shows. But none of this means that I'm sneering at you for liking the movie, sheesh. It's an imaginative work that intrigued you, and got you to read something you might not have discovered without it, and hopefully led to even more goodies later. That makes it *very* worthwhile! I've taped the recent DUNE miniseries, but haven't set aside six hours to watch it yet. >And honestly I'm not a big fan of LOTR, >most of which I find pretty dull, though I suppose I have to "respect" >it. THE HOBBITT and LOTR were the first books I read that didn't have pictures. I remember being in second grade, trying to work through FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, and thinking about how huge and remarkably long these books were. When I read them as a teen and adult, they end far too quickly. "Dull" doesn't even enter into the equation for me. >much either. I trusted Tim Burton up until that awful Sleepy Hollow. >Marky Mark and the female lead should make for nice eye-candy, though. My own take on Burton is that he's a visual genius who gets almost uniformly good performances out of his casts, but the downfall of his films is the downfall of most others: mediocre writing. I think EDWARD SCISSORHANDS is the only film of Burton's that's fully realized (I might add THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS to that, though I tend to think of Burton's live-action work when evaluating his films); the rest, despite immense promise, always seem to go sappy and conventional at just the wrong times. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:11:26 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Adams At 10:45 PM 5/15/2001 -0500, steve wrote: >Totoro kicks Disney butt - past, present, and future! I'll second, third, and fourth that! later, Miles, whose youngest sister got him a stuffed Catbus for Christmas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes - --- Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Eb wrote: > > So, I finally saw Oasis for the first time on > Monday. My first time seeing > > the other two bands, as well. > > Everyone who has ever told me about Oasis shows > (even if he/she is a > > fan) warns something like "They're not too > exciting onstage, you > > know," and yeah, this group is not keen on stage > presence. > > I've never seen them, but some mates of mine saw > them at Roskilde one year > and said that Liam was very charismatic on stage; > but he's known for being > very erratic, which is why I've never tried to see > them. The report in the > Daily Mirror about a gig over the weekend said that > the current Noel-Liam > vibe was extremely bad and that they were hardly > speaking to one another. > I have seen them on their last tour when they opened for Neil young in Toronto. Liam was on top of his game and the crowd was throwing sod at him. Liam kept telling the crowd "Uncle Neil won't like this at all! He may fall and break a hip." Funny guy, that Liam. I am going to see this mish mosh of crows and oasis on June 3 in Buffalo. Hopefully the brothers can hold it together until then. peace, love, and cheap Beatle knock offs, Herbie np - The Soft Boys AND HOW IT GOT THERE Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:28:38 -0400 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Bargain At 02:16 AM 5/16/01 -0700, Eb wrote: >This is where I sign off, but not before asking if others have seen the new >Nissan commercials which pirate the hook from the Who's "Bargain"? Ouch, >that *hurts*. > >Eb Yep -- they play it at least 4 times an hour during Red Sox games. What's worse, is I'm pretty sure it's *the Who* 's own recording (or an incredible simulation.) Ugh!! Eric ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Oasis/Black Crowes On Wed, 16 May 2001, Eb wrote: >If one of them was Kate Hudson, I was too far away to tell. I don't >think she was there, however. She might have been with John Popper: "We're complete opposites. I'm fat. He's skinny. He married Kate Hudson. I could make her happy in bed." --Blues Traveler frontman John Popper, on his apparent distaste for Black Crowes singer Chris Robinson on The Howard Stern Show. Cheers! - -g- "To ask permission is to seek denial." - --Steve Jobs, co-founder, Apple Computer )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ) ) Glen Uber // uberg at sonic dot net // Santa Rosa, California ) )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:10:55 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Bargain >>This is where I sign off, but not before asking if others have seen the new >>Nissan commercials which pirate the hook from the Who's "Bargain"? Ouch, >>that *hurts*. > >Yep -- they play it at least 4 times an hour during Red Sox games. What's >worse, is I'm pretty sure it's *the Who* 's own recording (or an incredible >simulation.) Ugh!! why is that worse? if i've got to listen to a song on a commercial, i'd rather that it's the real version and not some cheesy, canned version. i mean, how much money do they really save by having another version recorded? e-yuk! ken "excuse me while i sharpen my nails" the kenster np scar joe henry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:15:25 -0500 From: "Mike wells" Subject: Re: Crock 'n Roll Add to the list their appalling use of "Voodoo Chile" by Stevie Ray and "Happy When it Rains" by the Church (?I think). The one that really galled me, though, was nicking "Tom Sawyer" by Rush. A song about trying to be a rebel and free thinker being used for a car commercial? MY GOD. I have to assume that the only reason Nissan used it was because it had made it into the public domain after 20 years (read: free)...I can't believe Rush would sell it off like that if they still owned it, unless perhaps because of the staggering irony involved. On the other hand I can see SRV's estate and the Church as leaping at such an opportunity. All of these are in heavy rotation in the Chicago market, and seem mostly to occur during White Sox telecasts I am watching. In shared disgust, Michael "always hopeful yet discontent" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Loehr" To: "spleens a go-go" Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:28 PM Subject: Bargain > At 02:16 AM 5/16/01 -0700, Eb wrote: > >This is where I sign off, but not before asking if others have seen the new > >Nissan commercials which pirate the hook from the Who's "Bargain"? Ouch, > >that *hurts*. > > > >Eb > > Yep -- they play it at least 4 times an hour during Red Sox games. What's > worse, is I'm pretty sure it's *the Who* 's own recording (or an incredible > simulation.) Ugh!! > > Eric ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #199 ********************************