From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #188 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 9 2001 Volume 10 : Number 188 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Secret tracks, Wainwright, etc. [/dev/woj ] Actual Robyn-related news [JH3 ] Re: Non-voting Floridians mean less trouble for everyone... [JH3 ] Re: Non-voting Floridians mean less trouble for everyone... [steve ] Re: Secret tracks, etc. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Secret tracks [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: waters of Niagara [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Secret tracks ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Secret tracks ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Song Title? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Song Title? ["Rob" ] Re: Actual Robyn-related news ["brian nupp" ] Re: Secret tracks [steve ] Re: paper dolls (100%SB) ["brian nupp" ] Re: Non-voting Floridians mean less trouble for everyone... [GSS ] Paper dolls [The Great Quail ] Re: Secret tracks ["Brian Hoare" ] digested thru 187 ["ross taylor" ] Re: Paper dolls [Viv Lyon ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V10 #184 ["Walker, Charles" ] Re: paper dolls, secret tracks, etc. [JH3 ] Re: Secret tracks [HAL ] [comics] cerebus: the beginning of the end [HAL ] The Only Living Boy in New York [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: a dreaded "me too" post [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:53:26 -0400 From: /dev/woj Subject: Re: Secret tracks, Wainwright, etc. when we last left our heroes, Eb (ElBroome@earthlink.net) exclaimed: >The hidden track on the Eels' Daisies of the Galaxy is the most immediately >catchy song on the whole album, and features a sampled beep from a motorola pager. the exact beep i used to use for an alarm clock. freaked me out like you wouldn't believe the first time i heard that. you're right about that song being the most catchy, though these rest of the album is pretty damn ohrwurm-ish as well. >Oh, and the first hidden track at the *beginning* of a CD I ever heard was >on a crummy, out-of-print album on Zoo by an industrial/metal-ish band >called Course of Empire. i remember that album. ugh. i wonder if i still have the copy i picked up; i don't recall the hidden track. >I knew what to expect from opening duo Tegan & Sara, because I've already >heard their album. They have a cute stage presence with lots of patter and >girly in-jokes between them, but their songs are poisoned by that >obnoxious, all-rhythm-no-tune Ani DeFranco thing, so my brain immediately >checked out of their set. They do have some talent, though. they've been mentioned on ecto several times, but comparisons to ani difranco and the indigo girls haven't encouraged me to check them out. (i haven't really liked ani's most recent albums and i've never really liked the indigo girls either, so there you go -- anyone shocked?) woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 23:58:22 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Actual Robyn-related news Apparently this hasn't even made it onto www.robynhitchcock.com yet! Fancy that. From http://www.gadflyrecords.com/products/276.htm : "Gadfly Records is proud to announce the release of "Ernie: The Songs of Ernest Noyes Brookings" -- another installment of the oddball poet's lyrics paired with the music of unique and inventive musicians, including ROBYN HITCHCOCK, DAVE ALVIN, THE FIGGS, and 12 others. "Producer and Duplex Planet auther David Greenberger presents this fifth collection of works of the late poet Brookings who, at the age of 80, began writing his oddly observational poems (more than 400 of them!). ..."Robyn Hitchcock has been recording since the late '70s, first with The Soft Boys, then solo and with The Egyptians. Banaglore is based in Boston and led by Phil Kaplan, previously of Men & Volts... " Tracklist: 1. Robyn Hitchcock & Bangalore -- Book 2. Josh Alan -- Vacation 3. Dave Alvin -- November 4. George Cartwright -- Baby 5. Michael Hall & The Rostenkowskis -- Rolling Stone 6. Songs From A Random House -- Eggs 7. Love Camp 7 -- Spectacle Eye Glasses 8. Terri Templeton -- Eyes 9. Dump -- White Worms 10. Amy Denio -- Duplex Nursing Home 11. Michael Eck -- Handle With Care 12. The Figgs -- Citizens Band 13. The Incredible Casuals -- Ape 14. The Colorblind James Experience -- The Long Goodbye 15. Dryer -- May There's even an MP3, though it's just an excerpt. Whoever Bangalore are, they're pretty unobtrusive! To be honest, it isn't going to make anyone forget "Airscape," or even "Furry Green Atom Bowl," but us completists don't seem to care about that sort of thing, I suppose. Ta, John "always in need of continual starching" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 00:10:27 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: Non-voting Floridians mean less trouble for everyone... >>not really juxtaposing these figures as much as I am relating them >>together >>> Number of Floridian ex-cons denied the right to vote last November >>> because of felony convictions : 525,000 >> good ol dubyas bro making it hard for ex-cons to have any voice >I'm not really a Bush supporter in anything, but I think this is certainly >a very sensible rule...anyway, I think this is true for most states... I'm not sure it's true for *most* states, though it might not necessarily be unconstitutional... but those numbers are a bit high, don't you think? I might be living in a fantasy world, but 525,000 ex-con felons is a rather high number in a state of what, 12 million? Even if that state is Florida! If it were the total number of convicted felons *including* people in prison, then yeah, sure, I guess. But 525,000 ex-con felons? Seems like a lot to me. I could be wrong, of course... But apparently there's evidence (widely reported in Europe but not in the USA) that the Florida election commission paid a company called Data Base Technologies (visit their web site! http://www.dbtonline.com ) to supply them with a list of "possible felons" to be "investigated" with an eye towards dropping them from the voter registration rolls shortly before the election. Most of the officials involved have denied everything, but it looked like the state dropped practically everyone on the list, or at least all the black people, without any investigation whatsoever; roughly 90% of these "listees" were non-felons, most were black, and some had been convicted (in other states) of nothing more than minor traffic violations. I might have mentioned this earlier, but frankly it tends to weaken my earlier contention that Florida itself wasn't the problem in the last election, but rather the electoral system in general. Even so, I *still* take the whole thing as further proof that the proxy system has to be abolished, ASAP. John "always with the politics" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: sss sss sex crime crime cricricricri crime Miles Goosens wrote: > the boxed set when it comes out soon (June? Rhino?). July 17th. Rhino. ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 01:07:04 -0500 From: steve Subject: Scorecard of Evil http://www.wage-slave.org/scorecard.html - - Steve __________ Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown! - Darph Bobo http://www.trippingtherift.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 01:07:10 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Non-voting Floridians mean less trouble for everyone... On Wednesday, May 9, 2001, at 12:10 AM, JH3 wrote: > But apparently there's evidence (widely reported in Europe but not in > the USA) that the Florida election commission paid a company called > Data Base Technologies (visit their web site! http://www.dbtonline.com ) > to supply them with a list of "possible felons" to be "investigated" with > an > eye towards dropping them from the voter registration rolls shortly before > the election. Most of the officials involved have denied everything, but > it > looked like the state dropped practically everyone on the list, or at > least > all the black people, without any investigation whatsoever; roughly 90% > of these "listees" were non-felons, most were black, and some had been > convicted (in other states) of nothing more than minor traffic violations. And I've read that the firm is owned and run by Republicans. - - Steve __________ Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown! - Darph Bobo http://www.trippingtherift.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: paper dolls (100%SB) Those are a RIOT!!! Loved them! Herbie np - Radiohead Amnesiac "Life in a Glass House" - --- scary mary wrote: > I've been meaning to work on this for a while but > I've been really busy. I > finally got some spare time so here it is: > > http://www.loona.net/shh/sb/ > > paper dolls for the fegfembots (and everyone else > too) > > Enjoy > > s.Mary > > np - Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:54:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Secret tracks, etc. Eb wrote: > >Beck -- "Untitled" from Mutations > > Yeah...that's a good one. i'm under the impression it's called "Diamond Bollocks." > The hidden track on the Eels' Daisies of the Galaxy is the most > immediately catchy song on the whole album, but I'm mostly > forgettting the other likely nominees. ...And then there's Cracker's > "Eurotrash Girl," which has turned into a concert staple. > ...and "Train in Vain" are also good, of course. at the risk of fray this thread further, can anyone think of any other "hidden tracks" that were also singles off the album in question (hell, "Mr. E's Beautiful Blues" was the _lead_ single off Daisies.) ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Secret tracks Mike Swedene wrote: > Add to the list, the secret song at the end of REM's > GREEN (or Gre4n) album.... not really a secret track, merely untitled. after all, on the disc itself there is a listing of 11. (spaces) (song length) > "Poole, R. Edward" wrote: > > So, this Jewels talk raises the following poll > > question: what is your > > favorite "secret" or "hidden" CD track (this trick > > is so old, it's hard to > > call it a secret, but...) > > > > 1. Nirvana -- "untitled" aka "Verse Chorus Verse," > > from the "No Alternative" compilation > > 2. Beck -- "Untitled" from Mutations > > 3. Robyn -- "Gene Hackman" from JfS Cracker "Eurotrash Girl" off Kerosene Hat Belly "Dusted (slow version)" off Slow Dust EP. Nine Inch Nails "Suck" off Broken (even if it is fookin' track 99) and, not musically, but i've always kinda liked the goofy little track 11 on the NIN single for "Head Like a Hole," with the little "let's here it for Nine Inch Nails, Wooo!" ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: waters of Niagara "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > >From: Jeff Dwarf > > > >Hyaena isn't uneven? > > I can't decide. > > I was probably cheating, though, and thinking of Juju. > > >i've always favored 1987 actually. granted Ocean Rain kicks the grey > >albums ass, but give me Strangeways Here We Come, Document, Kiss > Me3, > >Music for the Masses, Pleased to Meet Me, Darklands, maybe even The > >Joshua Tree (though I like Unforgettable Fire better than it). and > even > >though it's a compilation, Substance. > > I'll give you Kiss Me and Music for Them Asses, but you are on your > own favoring Strangeways and Document. in terms of song quality, Strangeways and Smiths are a push. but the production on Smiths is terrible; there isn't one song on it that i don't prefer the Hatful of Hollow version. don't even have The Smiths on CD. I like Reckoning a lot, but "Lightning Hopkins" or "Oddfellows Local 151" or "Welcome to the Occupation" or "Disturbance at the Heron House" kick it's ass, even if "It's the End of the World" is incredibly overplayed. > I cannot even bring myself to remark> on that U2 album. with U2, you just have to ignore Bono, concentrate on The Edge. > Besides, I spent most of 1987 waking up to "Rock Steady" > and "Head to Toe" on my radio alarm, so my memories of that year are > not pure. which is why i'm glad i had a cassette player in my clock radio... > >probably a function of being the right age that year though. > > Could be -- I was waking up to those songs in order to go to middle > school. Not the best years of my life. see, it was the start of high school for me. also known as escaping middle school. granted it was the same assholes, but they were far less annoying by then. ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." Mark Twain Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:00:31 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Secret tracks Brian Huddell wrote: > > No, but it's a given that the average Mac user is a gifted artist. And violinist. And I wish the Quarkers here would *stop* fiddling with carefully set up printer drivers for generating book output. I spend days getting 'em right, even getting our book printers to generate test book signatures on their plate maker -- and I come in the next day, and someone is complainging that their graphics don't print out. They've gone and replaced my drivers with a PCL6 driver, their EPS have gone to pot, and they are wondering why our book printer is getting sniffy at being sent 100MB of PCL, not PostScript..........aargh. If a system doesn't have root/user access control, I won't even use it as a doorstop. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:09:41 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Secret tracks Capuchin wrote: > > Token Back To Brooklyn from They Might Be Giants' Factory Showroom. > > How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden track? sheesh, I didn't know about this one! Hope it's on the UK release. > (Oh, and Stewart [because you're probably the only other cdparanoia user > here], do you know how I can rip such a track?) Um, dunno. I'm not sure if the index mark technique as previously mentioned would work; you might have to use cdinfo to find the frame count of each track, and specify the frame numbers to cdparanoia. I'll give it a shot. cdda2wav looks like it has had some index mark capability added recently. I'll try it too, in my copious free time. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:14:21 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Song Title? Mike wells wrote: > > On this topic, I love the 11th song on REM's "Green," also untitled > (?)...anyone know the proper name of this one? I've seen it occasionally listed as "This World is Big", but only 'cos that's the first line. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:31:45 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: Song Title? From the rec.music.rem faq: "What is the name of that last song on Green?" The instrumental version on the CD-single for "Stand" is called "The Eleventh Untitled Song (Instrumental)." One can therefore infer that it's simply called "Eleventh Untitled Song" or "Untitled". Reportedly, however, some of this cut's lyrics were included in a Fan Club mailing under the title, "So Awake Volunteer," so some people consider that to be its intended title. Recently, an industrious group reader posted that while browsing the Library of Congress, he discovered that the song is copyright-registered under the title of "11", its track number. - -- Rob (who was caught out by the eels several times before he realised his pager wasn't going off ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:44:21 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Actual Robyn-related news "Ernie: The Songs of Ernest Noyes Brookings" >Tracklist: >1. Robyn Hitchcock & Bangalore -- Book > >There's even an MP3, though it's just an excerpt. Whoever >Bangalore are, they're pretty unobtrusive! To be honest, it >isn't going to make anyone forget "Airscape," or even "Furry >Green Atom Bowl," but us completists don't seem to care >about that sort of thing, I suppose. > >Ta, > >John "always in need of continual starching" Hedges I listened to this mp3 yesterday. I liked it. The bass reminds me of Chris Cox, I think. I only listened to it once. I wonder how long the track is. I seemed to liked the lyrics, but am unfamiliar with Brookings. Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:44:39 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Secret tracks On Wednesday, May 9, 2001, at 03:00 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > If a system doesn't have root/user access control, I won't even use it > as a doorstop. Well then, Mr. Jobs has a real nice new OS for you. - - Steve __________ Is this thing on? Sent via OS X Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:50:21 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: paper dolls (100%SB) >Those are a RIOT!!! > > >Loved them! > >Herbie Ditto! Those would be great CD cover art for a live disc! Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:16:46 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: Non-voting Floridians mean less trouble for everyone... On Tue, 8 May 2001, Motherfucking Asshole wrote: > a very sensible rule...> > > i cannot think of a single reason why inmates should not be allowed to vote. People on probation or parole are also denied the right to vote and in some states anyone convicted of a felony is not allowed to vote even if they are no longer on parole or probation. That could and most always would mean taxation without representation and you remember what happened last time this was an issue. np - transparent lover, ? nc - ptosys.vbp ns - fuck, it ain't workin' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 08:31:30 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: Secret tracks > >How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden track? At the risk of drawing the ire of the anti-Dead, I'll mention that there is a pre-track 1 hidden track on the Grateful Dead's "Infrared Roses". /hal np: Klaus Nomi - "Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:01:08 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Paper dolls Scary Mary, that is GREAT! Surely we can email the URL of this page to Tracey, and get it on the underwatermoonlight.com site? I bet Matthew would have a blast putting a Fez on his head.... So...why no digitized Spooky? - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:15:09 -0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Secret tracks >From: HAL >Reply-To: HAL >To: ghoulz >Subject: Re: Secret tracks >Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 08:31:30 -0600 > > > >How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden track? > >At the risk of drawing the ire of the anti-Dead, I'll mention that there >is a pre-track 1 hidden track on the Grateful Dead's "Infrared Roses". I'll have to investigate that, I always start IR at track 2 to avoid the rather tedious crowd noise thing. I'll have to put in a vote for Cracker's Eurotrash Girl for fave hidden/secret track. A huge thanks to those list members who have been promoting Nick Cave's new CD. I got a copy last thursday and am extremely impressed. 1984 was an odd year for me musically, I got diverted from my punkish fascination ( Kennedys, Damned, SLF, Subhumans &c) by being given tapes of Are you Experienced, LA Woman and Waiting for the Sun. I managed to miss out on anything released that year. As for weeping songs, I've been through some rought times with Virgins and Philistines by the Colourfield. Even better is Wild Flame on the B-side of Thinking of You, another beautiful lump of irreplacable vinyl. Brian _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 11:51:25 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: digested thru 187 those hidden tracks-- 1)"Train in Vain," Clash, London Calling Was this disliked by the Clash, or Strummer? 2)"Verse Chorus Verse" Nirvana, No Alternative 3)"Eurotrash Girl" Cracker, Kerosene Hat 4)"Gene Hackman" 2 Live Crew, Jewels for Sophia 5)"High Energy Protons" Juno Reactor, Bible of Dreams 6)"Her Majesty" Beatles, Abbey Road I know this was listed but it sounds like a hidden track. Rage tunes-- You mean besides the Stones? I tend to associate "hardcore" w/ my anger, & for me that means everything from the New York Dolls to most of what Ed Poole mentioned (tho I don't know Shellac or Jesus Lizard & heard little Rapeman), plus Ministry, which I always liked better than NIN. I might include the recent Electronic CD Twisted Tendernes, which has Bernie's wispy voice but enough mean guitar that when I filled the tape out w/ a couple of old Aerosmith things it worked for me. I know this music has a positive side, like CPR where ribs get broken but people get brought back to life (thinking of Ministry's "Breathe"). Of course it's all a matter of perspective. I remember how my parent, classical/orchestral fans, were discomfited by a renaissance brass concert w/ lots of fanfares--"We found ourselves thinking violent thoughts." More of how I love "1974"-- I first heard about a one minute snippet from House of Figgy and went around singing *that* for over a year until Storefront Hitchcock came out. New Zealand re. 1978-83 & Martha & the Muffins-- Cheesies and Gum, Cheesies and Gum!! Yeah that was my time, getting to hear that weird band that played "Boxcars" & the singer stood stock still w/ his long hair hanging over his eyes (long hair and new wave?!), getting thrown out of neon-y clubs that played Depeche Mode because of the dress code (I thought the doorman saw I was wearing sneakers?). Ross Taylor "This is no authority for the abuse of cheese." - --Gertude Stein. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Paper dolls That is the funniest, most awesome thing I've ever seen in my whole life- or at least in a good long while. You are a queen among women, Ms. Mary. I have only one request for additional adornments: little pairs of fairy wings. Oh, and a leather hood. On Wed, 9 May 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > Scary Mary, that is GREAT! Surely we can email the URL of this page > to Tracey, and get it on the underwatermoonlight.com site? I bet > Matthew would have a blast putting a Fez on his head.... Dude! The very first thing I did was put the fez on Matthew! Yes, they really must get wind of this- it's too hilarious and wonderful. Vivien ps- the girl who works down the hall from me is telling a story about a concert she went to where "people were _smoking weed_! Weed! Can you imagine! Right there! At the show!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:20:23 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V10 #184 I always grimace when people say "...and the rest is history." - -he needs to learn the fine art of the cliche ch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 11:30:10 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: paper dolls, secret tracks, etc. >I've been meaning to work on this for a while but I've been really >busy. I finally got some spare time so here it is: >http://www.loona.net/shh/sb/ That page is so cool, I nearly had to immolate myself! I have GOT to learn how to do client-side JavaScript one of these days... And from Brian H.: >A huge thanks to those list members who have been promoting >Nick Cave's new CD. I got a copy last thursday and am extremely >impressed. I know a lot of people here have gone ga-ga over this album, and it's a good album, but I just don't think it's right to recommend it to *everybody.* It's still Nick Cave, and Nick Cave is still an acquired taste, and anybody who has a problem with anguished, brooding, melancholy, depressing, etc., etc., etc., probably isn't going to like it. And he sounds more and more like Brian Ferry on every album, if you ask me. I'm not saying that's necessarily bad, but it *is* a wee bit disturbing. >As for weeping songs, I've been through some rought times with >Virgins and Philistines by the Colourfield. Hoo yeah! "Take" is one of my all-time favorite songs ever. But I should think this is the LAST thing you'd want to hear if you're going through rough times, esp. of a romantic nature! Back when I was single, I'd usually just put on the first Killing Joke album... These days, there's always Cinerama's "Va Va Voom" if you're in need of a good smirk while wallowing. John H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:38:18 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: Secret tracks > How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden track? > >At the risk of drawing the ire of the anti-Dead, I'll mention that there > >is a pre-track 1 hidden track on the Grateful Dead's "Infrared Roses". > I'll have to investigate that, I always start IR at track 2 to avoid the > rather tedious crowd noise thing. Whoops! The hidden track I was thinking of is NOT on "Infrared Roses", but instead it can be found on John Oswald's "Plunderphonics" Dark Star magnum opus "Grayfolded" (it's on the second disc "Mirror Ashes", pre-track 1). Sorry for any confusion. Ross: > those hidden tracks-- > "Her Majesty" Beatles, Abbey Road > I know this was listed but it sounds like a hidden track. It was *not* originally listed on the first LP pressings. The Fabs did intend it to be a surprise; a way to take the wind out of their own sails following the grandeur of the Side 2 medley. (On the subject of Beatle Easter Eggs, the "inner groove" and the "music for dogs" tracks on Sgt. Pepper could qualify as well.) /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:54:19 -0600 From: HAL Subject: [comics] cerebus: the beginning of the end A reminder to any who are interested that the very last CEREBUS storyline ("Latter Days") begins today as Cerebus #266 (out of 300) arrives in stores. (There's also a rebuttal letter from BONE's Jeff Smith in this issue for those amused by the Sim/Smith "fight".) http://previews.diamondcomics.com/editorial/misc_articles/dave_sim/latter_days1.jpg /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:27:55 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: The Only Living Boy in New York >> The tunefulness of all vocalist seemed suspect to me last night... with >> the exception, of course, of Martin Leper (or however that is spelled) >> and his wife Rebecca, who absolutely nailed Art's harmonies in their >> cover of The Only Living Boy in New York (which I'm listening to right >> now, well, not their cover). > > ooo. possibly my favourite Simon and Garfunkel song - and it has made so > much more sense since discovering what it's about. Which is? That's also a song that tends to bring tears to my eyes - along with "For Emily..." and "The Dangling Conversation". Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:55:16 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: a dreaded "me too" post >No! I mostly just roll my eyes at the Nostalgic Retrospective >Elevation of >the inferior stuff that made it to the radio (with a few >rare exceptions). Yes!! Yes!! Hey, irony-hounds - Culture Club and Duran Duran sucked then, and THEY STILL SUCK!!! Speaking of Nostaligic Retrospective Elevation, there's a trend amongst Portland hipsters (and probably elsewhere as well), wherein said hipsters claim to adore the shittiest of shitty hair metal. There's one thrift store which blares this shit all the time on the store PA, so innocent shoppers are subjected to a constant onslaught of Skid Row and Poison. It's "ironic," you know. One very, very self-consciously hip guy that I know claims to like this stuff whole-heartedly and not because it's trendy, but I don't believe him. n. p.s. "Martin Leper" is my favorite misspelling of the day. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:33:49 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: a dreaded "me too" post Gnat rails, >Yes!! Yes!! Hey, irony-hounds - Culture Club and Duran Duran sucked >then, and THEY STILL SUCK!!! Hmmm... I do not like the Culture Club, not now or then, but I can't say they suck. Boy George penned a few really good melodies in his day. I think he overproduced them and drained them of life with too much honey and sugar, but the melodies were ok. And I *liked* Duran Duran's first two albums. I still do. They are simple, but full of some great energy and enthusiasm, backed up by fairly solid playing. They were, well, *fun.* It's only during and after the third album I thought they began getting in over their heads, and losing some of their already-limited creativity. Just a few notes from He Who Grew Up in the 80s, - --Quail - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #188 ********************************