From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #186 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 8 2001 Volume 10 : Number 186 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Local Heroes ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: Secret tracks ["JH3" ] Re: the thrill is gone ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] "a pretty girl, in her underwear" ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: Secret tracks, Wainwright, etc. [Eb ] Re: "a pretty girl, in her underwear" [Eb ] Re: Secret tracks ["Kenneth Johnson" ] Eye ["brian nupp" ] Re: Secret tracks ["Kenneth Johnson" ] A Robyn Moment ["Mike wells" ] My Charming Cornell Boxes ["Lilac Doorway" ] Re: Eye [Tom Clark ] 1974, first names, and crying [Jill Brand ] Peter Buck Hates Me [Tom Clark ] how it feels to be dry ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: 1974, first names, and crying ["brian nupp" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:46:35 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: Local Heroes >how about music to listen to when you are totally pissed off or deeply >depressed( with some beers or wine in the system)? >black sabbath, tool, rage against the machine or nin. Again, for me, Fugazi for rage ("Promises" for break-up rage; "Merchandise" for rage about consumer culture; "Waiting Room" for existential angst; I could go on and on). Also, Helmet, Fear, Nirvana/In Utero (now there's a record that's FULL of both rage and depression -- it's almost too painful to listen to unless you feel that way yourself), Rapeman/Big Black/Shellac (Albini is always good for a dose of rage), Jesus Lizard, Killdozer, Husker Du, Naked Raygun... 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:57:51 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Secret tracks >No, but it's a given that the average Mac user is a gifted artist. It's a >dumb old argument, I regretted opening my mouth as soon as I did it. I just >wanted to make the point that some PC users apply intelligence and >creativity in the actual making of the computer, and then go on to make >music or art with them. But yeah, most get them at Wal-Mart and use them to >look at porn. I know three people who bought Macs because Apple's teevee ads led them to believe that using a Macintosh was the "best" (and in one case *only*) way they could get on the Internet and send e-mail. When they found out otherwise, all three were royally pissed off, I can assure you. Although one of them actually *was* an artist, so she didn't mind so much, other than the fact that she could have saved a few bucks. Personally, I don't think the problem is anywhere near as bad as the tendency of people to think that it's a good thing when they get a tax refund... John "still plunking away" Hedges PS. Fave secret track: The one at the end of the second Ben Folds Five album. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:22:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: the thrill is gone forgot who started the thread: > >how about music to listen to when you are totally pissed off or deeply > >depressed (with some beers or wine in the system)? Ooh, that's easy: 1. Confessor, "Condemned" -- sublime speed/death/doom core metal with an unbelievable drummer and wicked time changes. Great lyrics about hopelessness and other fun stuff, very physical music. Imagine if the Sleestacks formed a band after a bad day of hunting and avoiding dinosaurs. 2. Controlled Bleeding, "Body Samples" -- there are sounds on this noise/antiart album which I cannot bear. Reed's MMM doesn't come close to this one. I don't think I've ever sat through the entire thing, but it sure is good catharsis. 3. Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel, "Nail" -- I don't know of another better example of monomaniacal excess. Nietsche (sp?), Wagner, and Charles Manson locked up with the Royal Philharmonic and a whole lot of scrap metal. "If the future don't suit you you're better off dead." Indeed. Other Foetus faves when I'm angry: "Sick Minutes (Unmutual)" and "Death Rape 2000." 4. Skinny Puppy, "Remission" -- there's something undeniably beautiful, angry, and cold about "Smothered Hope," "Icebreaker," and "Incision," (right Doug?). But I'm not really an angry guy, honest. But my favorite band of all time when I'm angry? The Hat Band -- the tiny band that played in Horatio J. Hoodoo's hat house in Lidsville. Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:36:39 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: ...Hen Out DVD, etc. So, my _Gotta Let This Hen Out_ DVD (and Syd Barrett _Wouldn't You Miss Me_ compilation) arrive in the mail yesterday from Amazon.co.uk - - and the DVD is Regionless - Region 0 - even though the site said it was Region 2. Now I'm wondering now if the US release is really going to be identical to this "UK" release. Anybody got the US one on order? The "Bob Dylan Blues" Syd song is peachy - I really like it. It doesn't sound to me like a throwaway - no more "unfinished" sounding than any of the other mostly-acoustic-guitar-and-voice songs Syd ever put out. I still don't have a clue why it showed up just NOW, . . . >So I've only listened to "Jewels for Sophia" about a >thousand times now, and never bothered to let it run long >enough to hear the bonus unlisted tracks. Oh shit! I think my promo copy of _Jewels.._ doesn't have the bonus tracks! Gotta go buy it now. How many tracks are there, total? >How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden >track? >...(Oh, and Stewart [because you're probably the only >other cdparanoia user here], do you know how I can rip >such a track?) That type of hidden track is usually implemented by having the hidden part still coded as part of Track 1, but by having an index point inserted into track 1 so that the location at which the clock shows "0:00" time, is actually some distance into track 1. If you use a computer-based ripper, it *should* extract the entire track by default, and when you re-burn, you'll probably lose that index marker and the formerly hidden track will no longer be hidden, unless you make a new cue sheet with the index point properly inserted. This may be different for Mac users, but that's how I *think* it'd work on a PC. >>> And Tool is opening for King Crimson? >> Actually, Crimson is going to be the opening band, from >>what I've heard so far. >I'm not sure Fripp knows what he's in for here. I don't >know what will happen when a bunch of amped-up Tool fans >get a load of "Neal and Jack and Me". It could get ugly... Fripp claims that Tool is one of Crimson's (not merely Fripp's) favorite bands. So, I think they're in 'cos they like the band. They certainly may get surprised by the crowd - but I tend to think the crowd will be equally surprised by Crimson. One thing's fer sher, though- I'll be TAPING this go-around. I forewent (?) taping the KC show in Chicago last year, not knowing what to expect in the way of security at the Park West, and fully expecting it to be ridiculously tight in light of Fripp's outspokenness on that matter, but it was looser than clams (SOMEbody'll get the reference) - I coulda brought a rack-mount unit in, let alone the stealth rig. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:48:45 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: "a pretty girl, in her underwear" >First: Nobody wears underwear for that long in Tom's porn collection. Point taken. >Second: You have no idea how upset I am about missing that. She wasn't topless, by the way - she was wearing a shirt and panties, and was running through what looked like a futuristic mall, with this robot shooting lasers at her, and it eventually exploded her head. Yow. Anyone know what movie this was from? gnat "if there's anything better in this world, who cares?" the gnatster _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:06:28 -0000 From: Melissa Higuchi Subject: Robyn stories Anyone ever heard any stories about Robyn ever having meetings at Island Records? autographing signed pictures? a coworker just told me some odd story. I assume it will turn out like that sesame street thing still I tought I'd check melissa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:11:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Secret tracks, Wainwright, etc. >You can't just say John, Paul, or George unless the context allows >you to infer Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison, but of course you have to >say Ringo, never Starr. More support for the unusual-name theory. ;) >Beck -- "Untitled" from Mutations Yeah...that's a good one. The hidden track on the Eels' Daisies of the Galaxy is the most immediately catchy song on the whole album, but I'm mostly forgettting the other likely nominees. Hidden tracks have become so commonplace (one of Nirvana's less notable legacies) that it's hard to sift through all my memories of them. I believe one of the American Music Club CDs on Reprise has a nice hidden version of "California Dreamin'." And then there's Cracker's "Eurotrash Girl," which has turned into a concert staple. "Gene Hackman" and "Train in Vain" are also good, of course. Oh, and the first hidden track at the *beginning* of a CD I ever heard was on a crummy, out-of-print album on Zoo by an industrial/metal-ish band called Course of Empire. (They released another album on TVT, more recently. I think they're from Texas.) It seems like I own one more pre-album hidden track beyond the TMBG/X Files discs which someone else already mentioned, but the title's not coming to me right now. BTW, did I mention that I found a secondhand copy of the new Underwater Moonlight reissue for only $5.99? I was going to skip buying this version, but jeez, how could I resist *that* price? I saw Rufus Wainwright at the sold-out Roxy, last night. I'm still not feeling much magic from the second album's songs, sorry to say. Interesting that a friend spontaneously expressed the same view which I've been thinking: "Grey Gardens" is great onstage, but somehow the CD version doesn't have the same spark. I knew what to expect from opening duo Tegan & Sara, because I've already heard their album. They have a cute stage presence with lots of patter and girly in-jokes between them, but their songs are poisoned by that obnoxious, all-rhythm-no-tune Ani DeFranco thing, so my brain immediately checked out of their set. They do have some talent, though. Parenthetical note: Tegan & Sara may have the smallest average height of any band I've seen. ;) No detailed comments about Wainwright's set, especially since I've already posted about three other RW shows in the past. As I hoped, his band seemed more polished and accomplished than the group which appeared at Largo awhile back. The players included Butch from the Eels on drums, Teddy Thompson on guitar, a second keyboardist, a bassist (both electric and upright) and, of course, that udderly grating Martha on guitar and backing vocals. I just don't like her style. The cleavage wasn't so extravagant this time, but I was greatly amused when her tight little skirt started to split its left-thigh hem in protest. Heh heh. This gal sure craves attention -- every stage move she makes is *so* self-conscious and practiced, for maximum pop-star elan. Ugh. Really turns me off. Nice voice, though. The material focused on the new album, of course, and RW played guitar and piano almost equally. Some of his introductions were familiar from past shows, such as him calling "Evil Angel" a tribute to Led Zeppelin (which isn't especially obvious from hearing the song). Or him referencing the film of the same name before "Grey Gardens." I don't think he played anything from the first album beyond "Foolish Love," "April Fools" (encore), "In My Arms" and "Beauty Mark." He even skipped my own favorite song, "Danny Boy." Oh well. He's starting to get his nervous-babble tic under control, however, and that's a good thing. A second parenthetical note: I haven't seen cigarettes appear as such a dominant onstage motif in quite awhile. It was almost like a competition between Rufus and Martha, to see who could smoke the most. After his first encore set, he came back with his mother and sang "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" (whew, talk about stereotyping himself ;)) while she played piano. Mother McGarrigle started in the key of C, but Rufus noodged her to play it in D instead. Way to be on your toes, mom. He also played a neat, obviously unpracticed song called "Little Sister" (?) as a spontaneous tribute to Martha, whose birthday arrived at midnight. I'd be curious to know if this was a cover or an original -- I really don't know. It had an endearing, fussy-baroque feel with little piano trills 'n' things. I flicked on the TV shortly after returning home, and caught Suzanne Somers "dramatically" singing "If I Only Had a Brain" (indeed) to conclude her own public appearance of the night -- on the Craig Kilborn show. A wacky, Wizardly coincidence. Eb PS Of Montreal used projected films at their Hollywood show too, but none of the films which Natalie described. Much of the footage was simply live shots taken by a cameraman at stage right, who was adding all sorts of psychedelic filters and effects to the image. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:16:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: "a pretty girl, in her underwear" >She wasn't topless, by the way - she was wearing a shirt and panties, and >was running through what looked like a futuristic mall, with this robot >shooting lasers at her, and it eventually exploded her head. Yow. Anyone >know what movie this was from? Oh wait...I think parts of this film were shown in Hollywood, too. I believe it's "Night of the Comet." There was also a point in the local show (I can't remember who was performing at the time) when the music synched *wonderfully* with an action clip from a Jane Fonda workout video. That was great! Eb, peripherally mentioning that "Night of the Creeps" is a wildly underrated genre film ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:16:02 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: Secret tracks untitled (as far as I know) pre-track 1 on the Boo Radleys last album "Kingsize". The discovery of this, from an indie-pop net list, had me searching buttloads of my discs for other hidden pre-track one gems. I don't have a favorite off the top of my head for hidden tracks, but most annoying in this category has to go to track #98 on the Stone Roses "Second Coming". In fact, any cd that hides tracks beyond 30 or so are irratating by nature. Pre-track one and other hidden tracks with lengthy outleads (no separate track #) have proven to be problematic when burning. any suggestions? Kenneth >From: Capuchin >Reply-To: Capuchin >To: Nerdy Groovers >Subject: Re: Secret tracks >Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT) > >On Tue, 8 May 2001, Poole, R. Edward wrote: > > So, this Jewels talk raises the following poll question: what is your > > favorite "secret" or "hidden" CD track (this trick is so old, it's > > hard to call it a secret, but...) > >Token Back To Brooklyn from They Might Be Giants' Factory Showroom. > >How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden track? > >I can only think of Factory Showroom and Songs in the Key of X. > >These are truly hidden tracks because there's absolutely no way to happen >upon one by playing the disc in any kind of normal fashion. > >(Oh, and Stewart [because you're probably the only other cdparanoia user >here], do you know how I can rip such a track?) > >J. >-- >_______________________________________________ > >Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 16:18:03 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Eye I was just reminiscing like I do, and remembered back in 1990 in Ann Arbor, at a Robyn Hitchcock show, that there was a girl there, who had a jacket with a big Eye, exactly like the one on the cover of Eye, painted on the back of her jacket. After the show Robyn was admiring her way cool jacket, spining her around and such and saying "Wow, that's great. Did you do that?" Then the girl told Robyn that he should see her home, cause she has a shrine around a Madonna of the Wasps like creature she made. So if that girl happens to be on this list, I just wanted to say "Cool Jacket." Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:17:55 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: Secret tracks YES! if we can count Train in Vain, it must rank among my fave hidden tracks K >From: Christopher Gross >Reply-To: Christopher Gross >To: Squidmaniax! >Subject: Re: Secret tracks >Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:51:40 -0400 (EDT) > >On Tue, 8 May 2001, Poole, R. Edward wrote: > > > So, this Jewels talk raises the following poll question: what is your > > favorite "secret" or "hidden" CD track (this trick is so old, it's hard >to > > call it a secret, but...) > >This is from the pre-CD era, but wasn't the Clash's "Train In Vain" a >"hidden" (ie, unlisted) track on the London Calling LP and cassette? >That's a good one. I also like the simple little tune hidden at the end >of Apoptygma Berzerk's Welcome to Earth. But my favorite hidden track of >all time has to be at the one at the end of Tool's Undertow. > > >--Chris "what, you think the average PC user builds his own box?" the >Christer > >np: Silly Wizard, Wild & Beautiful > >______________________________________________________________________ >Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. >chrisg@gwu.edu _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 15:20:30 -0500 From: "Mike wells" Subject: A Robyn Moment Snuck away from the wife and kids for a some golf last Saturday morning...and after getting delayed at our local muni course, hopped over to a nearby Par 3 layout. Listened to "Element of Light" on the way over. The alternate course ended up being the perfect choice; on a warm, gray and drizzly Chicago morning had the entire place to myself and Robyn fresh in the brain. Now it sounds like the perfect situation to have "Winchester," or perhaps "Airscape" repeating in my head on a nice morning walk. I was conciously working on my swing, which I had been patiently rebuilding over the Winter and was eager to try out. Something plaintive would have been nice to fixate on. The song I got instead was "Ted, Woody and Junior." No imagery, just the melody line plinking around inside my head for the next 45 minutes. Mind you, I hit the ball OK so maybe it wasn't all so bad...but it struck me later as kind of funny and almost like being inside a song, if that's the right way to put it. One of those just-off-center moments, I guess. Michael up to two "corpuscles making love in vain" and still climbing ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:33:03 -0000 From: "Lilac Doorway" Subject: My Charming Cornell Boxes Melissa's and Miles theory: >Pete Buck subscribes to this list. He can't! I just said something nice about him. I only say bad things bout people to their faces. Now behind their backs is another matter. But to their faces its pure negativity. Ross: >The whole insects/molluscs lower-life-forms thing >isn't just whimsy, it reminds me of how Gary >Snyder, Timothy Leary , Robert Bly >would talk about the mammal brain & the reptile >brain. Some hokum involved, but still the idea >of different levels of thought...I'm convinced >humans are major parallel processors... Damn it man, can't you say something I can disagree with. Everybodies a reptile, everybodies an animal and everybodies a human. Question is, of course, what you choose to -do- with said brains... RA Wilson(urp) takes alot of Leary's thoughts on this and runs with it. Sometimes forward, sometimes up his ass. Does Swami Gottyanumba have a theme song by Cy Coleman? Miles, wink away. And keep posting. I remember you as one of the amusing old-timers. We oldies need all the voices we can get. James James James Im -so- sorry Dignan wrote: >eek-no! Don't count me among the techies - I just synchronicitously >stumbled across that news item ten minutes after reading the digest. >My >Dewey catalogue number is 023, thank you very much! Hmmm, now Im going to have to dig up Dewey and figure that one out. By the way James, I am sorry. We still want you on the librarian team. Mahoney on his library: >50 year old dust bunnies and cockroaches which could beat up >a pitbull. Hey--we got the same fauna here in Philly. Do you think Library Admisistrators buy them in bulk from Brodarts? Stewart: >yes, but it doesn't give a useful citation, so I fear it was made up. Will you please play on the librarian side Stewart? Anyone who knows to evaluate stuff by the quality of documentation is obviously our kind of people. >spanghew: jerk or catapult violently into the air >especially as a way of torturing frogs and birds well, if the OED says it, its gospel. Boy, I bet those frogs and birds confessed to -everything- after some of that. Is dwarftossing one or two words? When I get angry I dont listen to music. Instead I make these charming Cornell boxes with inscects crucified on matchstix and bits of bloody fur Ive torn from the hides of small local animals. Then I inspect my knife collection and sneak into the operating theater at the local hospital for an afternoon viewing of a heart transplant(on a good day one of the docs drops it on the floor by mistake. Opphs!) For dinner I hunt down a sheep, rend it limb from limb and devour it raw(urp.) You -really- think listening to music would be a better option?:-)(well, maybe "Sleeping with your Devil Mask.") Peace, love and understanding, Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:35:11 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Eye on 5/8/01 1:18 PM, brian nupp at bnupp@hotmail.com wrote: > I was just reminiscing like I do, and remembered back in 1990 in Ann Arbor, > at a Robyn Hitchcock show, that there was a girl there, who had a jacket > with a big Eye, exactly like the one on the cover of Eye, painted on the > back of her jacket. After the show Robyn was admiring her way cool jacket, > spining her around and such and saying "Wow, that's great. Did you do that?" > Then the girl told Robyn that he should see her home, cause she has a shrine > around a Madonna of the Wasps like creature she made. > > So if that girl happens to be on this list, I just wanted to say "Cool > Jacket." Paging Ms. Jacobs, Ms. Natalie Jane Jacobs. - -t "underwear is unnecessary" c ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:52:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: 1974, first names, and crying Ross wrote: " "Feels Like 1974." This works like an anthem or something for me, like "My Back Pages" turned inside out. Maybe you have to be close to Robyn's age to dig it, but in 74 in some ways it seemed like the good guys had won, but there'd been huge collateral losses in the "movement." " I'm two years younger than Robyn, and the first time I heard that song I just kept nodding my head up and down, mentally checking off what resonated. I particularly liked the rehabilitation of Nixon part. I was in Germany when Nixon resigned and felt very removed from the pulse of Brooklyn (which was very different from the pulse of much of the rest of the country). I was on an exchange program, and a bunch of us Americans stayed up to watch the speech on the dorm's TV. The event was so important that it was broadcast in the middle of the night - in those days, German TV shut down at around midnight. Anyway, I realized for the first time that there were people my age that were going to be saddened by this event. A few of us were sitting there, beers in hand, whooping it up, but there were others who looked as though their world was ending. I was incredulous and asked them how many more crimes the bastard was going to have to commit before they would hold him accountable. The whole thing got ugly and, after that, there was a noticeable rift between the left and right in the group. Just remembering... As for first names, no one ever calls me by my last name (I won't let my kid's friends do it, either), so I tend to use first names for others as well. No disrespect intended. As for crying, I weep at concerts. I also weep at baseball games. I don't cry out of sadness, but rather when something beautiful or exhilirating happens (Queen of Eyes or a sweet double play - God, both of them slay me). I think crying is great. My son plays guitar and I always cry when he plays something exquisitely. Yes, it embarrasses the shit out of him. But that's what mothers are for, que no? Yeah, I saw a TON of concerts in 1984 (Siouxie and Echo and Psy Furs within a few weeks of each other, I believe). Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:16:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Peter Buck Hates Me Summer 1982: I see The English Beat at the Agora in Hartford, CT. That band with the weird singer that does "Carnival of Sorts" opens for them. Between sets my buddy and I are hanging out in the back of the venue when the guitarist walks by. He's really tall and thin, wearing cool pointed toe cowboy boots. I wave and try to tell him I enjoyed the set, but he just walks by, not even making eye contact. April 1, 1989: I see Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians at The Paradise in Boston. Peter Buck joins them on stage for a few songs. After the show I'm hanging out on the sidewalk chatting with Morris when Peter and Andy Metcalf come flying out of the club and into a waiting taxi, each carrying two six-packs. I wave and try to tell Peter I enjoyed the set, but he just runs by, not even making eye contact. November 16, 1999: I see Robyn Hitchcock at The Crocodile Cafe in Seattle. I'm having dinner at the venue beforehand and Peter Buck walks by. I try to say Hi, but he just walks by, not even making eye contact. June 24, 2000: I see Robyn Hitchcock and Grant Lee Phillips at The Crocodile Cafe in Seattle. I see Peter Buck walking around quite often. I don't care. April 4, 2001: I see The Soft Boys at The Crocodile Cafe in Seattle. The Minus Five opens with Peter Buck on bass. After the show I'm buying a tee shirt and Peter Buck sticks his head in the merchandise booth. Out of the corner of my eye I see him smile at me, but I just finish the transaction and leave, not even making eye contact. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:27:19 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: how it feels to be dry >From: "Natalie Jacobs" >Derek thanked me for his tinfoil "dog." (I keep >thinking that Drew would go for him, as he's small and stocky... ;) Well, I do have other requirements, you know! :) Actually, assuming I was looking at the right guy (he had a bass!), he's kind of cute. I'm not digging the beard, though. >From: Capuchin > >Token Back To Brooklyn from They Might Be Giants' Factory Showroom. > >How many CDs do you know of with the pre-track 1 hidden track? One, now! Now I feel stupid. How do you hear it? Put the CD on and skip backward? >From: "Brian Huddell" > >No, but it's a given that the average Mac user is a gifted artist. And then there are the unusual Mac users like me. :) > But yeah, most get them at Wal-Mart and use them to >look at porn. You can also use a Mac for that. :) - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 17:32:57 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: 1974, first names, and crying 1974: I remember about a year ago or so, we fegs were discussing what "half 22" meant, from "you were woking at the earth exchange and half 22." I don't think anyone ever agreed on what Robyn meant, and I don't think this has been brought up again, but those of you who read the interview in the Sonic Book know that RH explains this. I don't have the book in front of me but, RH says that he was talking about Michele being 11 and working at a place called "The Earth Exchange." The there it is. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #186 ********************************