From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #179 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, May 4 2001 Volume 10 : Number 179 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Floyd movies... [Michael R Godwin ] Re: compilations ["Rob" ] Re: childhood musical inspirations? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: seminal reruns ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Silver Dagger [Jill Brand ] The last post (for a bit) [Michael R Godwin ] Re: New songs on underwatermoonlight.com ["brian nupp" ] RE: ["da9ve stovall" ] silent little spiderman [Viv Lyon ] Re: WanderLust [/dev/woj ] Re: silent little spiderman ["Ken_Weingold -> /dev/null/woj" ] Wells & SF [The Great Quail ] another long rambling message ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Re: childhood musical inspirations? [Ken Weingold ] Re: the influenza of youth... [dmw ] Re: surreal early 70's public television [Ken Ostrander ] Boys Don't Cry [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:07:04 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Floyd movies... On Wed, 2 May 2001, Poole, R. Edward wrote: > p.s. the 67 US tour also had to be "cut short" because of Syd's increasingly > catatonic state, chronicled in the legendarily mute appearances on American > Bandstand and The Pat Boone Show (!) I only saw that clip of him refusing to mime 'Apples & Oranges' recently. As far as I know they never played 'Arnold Layne' live, and the only time they played 'See Emily Play' live was at the Games for May concert, _before_ it had been released (they did perform it on Top of the Pops, though). In interviews, Syd always emphasised the importance of singles - it was one of the big differences between him and Waters/Mason - but he wasn't willing to promote them. Very odd. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:37:57 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: compilations > victorian squid wrote: > > p.s.- anyone remember the word "sphengew" (unsure of the spelling)? On Fri, 4 May 2001, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > unless the spelling's very off, the combined lexicographical might of > Collins Dictionaries (well, some of it, anyway) reckons this word is a > hoax. >'Sphagnum', possibly (a type of moss)? - MRG Perhaps 'spanghew' is the word that is being looked for. Funwords lists it as being 'To cause a toad or frog to go flying into the air'. - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:31:29 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: childhood musical inspirations? > Anybody else got any particularly influential childhood records? The Michelin Theme (Go Radial, Go Michelin) -- Manfred Mann and Mike Hugg Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:36:34 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: seminal notions Eric Loehr wrote: > > Yet a further connection is of course, that George Martin guy, who produced > both the Beatles and the Goons albums.... was there much production involved? It mostly seemed to be cutting out Max Geldray playing the moothie... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:44:48 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: seminal reruns Mike wells wrote: > > Blake's 7 (the best sci-fi TV series ever, no contest and sorry Tom Baker) > Space 1999 (Martin Landau & Barbara Bain in the same show? Gotta be a > winner!) > > And don't forget the British contingent, courtesy of public television: B7 and S1999 were british... Nothing has ever come close to the genious of Absolutely. Stewart "unable-to-ankero-we" Russell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:41:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Silver Dagger Carole wrote: Kay asked about what music to put on when you need a good cry. Oh, where to start? It depends on what sort of a cry. If you've been dumped, there's nothing better than hearing Robyn do a cover of "Silver Dagger" (I heard it first on one of Bayard's "Hatched Crablings" compilation--thanks Bayard!). I haven't yet heard the Joan Baez version. Robyn just does it so beautifully, especially that "no, no, no" bit. When you're feeling miserably outcast, you can always put on sad/vengeful/wistful/melancholy Robyn songs like a faithful lover. *************************************************************** I'm the odd one out, here. Carole has never heard Joan Baez' version of Silver Dagger and Eddie hates it. I have never heard Robyn's (but if someone wants to take pity on me for a trade or a biscotti, let me know). I grew up on Joan Baez (you didn't think about liking or disliking her voice; she was at every peace demonstration you were ever at, and you bloody well loved her AND Phil Ochs as a package), and Silver Dagger and Barbara Allen were favorite songs of mine. Since my daughter was three and couldn't fall asleep on a plane one time, I have sung Silver Dagger to her every night of her life. It's such a perfect song for Robyn to sing, though. It's the serious side of He's a Reptile. To the topic of influences preparing me for Robyn, I would say that they would have to be both musical and literary. The musical influences would be the groups that never forsook melody for rhythm or lyrics (the Beatles, the Kinks, the Byrds, the Hollies, etc.). The literary would be anyone who dealt with metamorphoses (Ovid, Kafka, Borges). I liked anything in which things grew out of other things. However, I've never been much of a sci-fi/fantasy reader, as many of you are. Don't know why. Do love Harry Potter, though. Wouldn't it be great for Robyn to set one of the Hogwarts songs to music? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:38:33 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: The last post (for a bit) A long post as I am unsubscribing for 10 days while the wife and I nip off to favourite holiday destination Beirut, followed by Port Said, Alexandria, Bodrum (home of Ahmet Ertegun I just found out), Antalya and Limassol... On Thu, 3 May 2001, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > Were you the diminuitive chap with the glasses, beard and impressive > rock'n'roll-academic thatch. If so, that was some of the most > intellectual idiot dancing I've ever seen. An intellectual idiot writes: Well, I wouldn't call 5 foor 6 and almost a half diminutive, but otherwise the description fits exactly. You should have seen me at my peak in the 70s, dancing flat out to 'Ballroom Blitz', 'Highway Star' and 'Knowing Me Knowing You'. Can't do it now ... Carole wrote: > To amuse ourselves, we'd take a freshly pulled weed, turn it upside-down > (so that it sorta looked like a hula dancer) and shake it while singing > "Wooly Buly." For some reason, this caused us to go into hysterical > laughter. Maybe the weed had two big horns and a woolly jaw? woj wrote: > i've always said that _element of light_ is the best egyptians record > while _fegmania!_ is my favorite. Engimatic as always, listmeister. n. wrote: > I adored Spike Jones and the Goons - I had this tape with Spike on one > side and the Goons on the other, and I must have played it to the > point of disintegration, since it seems to have vanished. I can still > sing "I'm Walking Backwards for Christmas" and do that Peter Lorre bit > at the end of "My Old Flame." ("She would always treat me mean, so I > took a can of gasoline...") I think you'll find that the Peter Lorre impression is by Spike Jones and the City Slickers from the 1940s. An obvious influence on Milligan's love of sound effects and musical mayhem. Kay wrote: > Has anyone read Michael Moorcocks's "Dancers at the End of Time" > series? It has some Victorian stuff, and somehow feels abit > similar.(Ahhhhh! I wrote this right after reading Quilie's scibe. Then > 4 messages later Godwin chimes in with this exact same thing. Holy > fuckin shit;-)(By the way Godwin, this is my favorite of the Moorcock > series. Love it.) Well, it's you and me versus Drew, then! I also like the 4-book sequence which includes the Final Programme and Condition of Musak - specially Jerry Cornelius's disastrous gig underneath the Westway. This is Notting Hill as it really was, not some crap Peter Mandelson Hugh Grant upper-middle class fantasy... Michael Bachman wrote: > A new poll sounds good to me. Perhaps we should have different > catagories. I think that an oral sex songs category would be popular. I would certainly include 'Tropical Flesh Mandala' in it. - - Mike "idiot, yes, but I don't know about the 'intellectual' " Godwin PS Apart from some stuff which never got to the UK, I have almost identical influences to Glen Uber and Hal... PPS To Rob: Jonathan Turner was spotted at Oxford and other recent UK gigs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:49:01 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: New songs on underwatermoonlight.com >We've just updated the subscription area on underwatermoonlight.com . >The new songs are ... > >Airscape (London) >City of Shame (Baltimore) >Evil Guy (New York) >Insanely Jealous (Washington, DC) >Old Pervert (Minneapolis) >Out Of The Picture (Hoboken, 1980) >Queen of Eyes (London) >Sudden Town (Nottingham) >There's Nobody Like You (Hoboken, 1980) >Underwater Moonilght (Portland) >You'll Have To Go Sideways (Vancouver) > What a fine collection of songs! Extra-bonus getting the 1980 stuff. Some extra bonus UM rehersal stuff would be xtra-fine too! >It turns out that our MP3 of "Mr. Kennedy" from Detroit cuts off early >because the source minidisc does the same. This is a shame! I love this version. I'm still glad the cut version was put up there. Better that than nothing. >We'll probably have a recording >from some other source up shortly. Already did, didn't you? Thanks. Must not have found the legal boundaries for posting mp3 covers to a subcribed site as there is no Astronomy Domine or Train Around the Bend up yet. How 'bout "You'll Have to go Sideways" with Sonic Boom? Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:49:24 -0000 From: Melissa Higuchi Subject: childhood influences I'm not really sure that childhood exposure to music had that big an influence on me ending up as a RH fan. What I remember is a lot of Peter, Paul and mary Subject: RE: >wonder if Bumpity has any kind of a webpage...he never >made it onto a lunchbox like Sigmund or Pufnstuf, but he >was cool. I had a Sigmund the Sea Monster lunch box. Musta been in first or second grade - circa 1974-5-6. >- --You know you need a good cry. What music do you put on? I'm not quite sure if 'needing' a good cry is the right angle for me, but I used to listen to Tom Waits' _Franks Wild Years_ when I was in a melancholy mood, and it never failed to even me out and make things copacetic. Is that weird? As for songs that just a-damn-bout always bring a tear to my eye, these tunes seem to have some very firm grip on that part of me: Mississippi John Hurt - Stack-O-Lee Blues (Stag-O-Lee, however you spell it) Elvis Costello - Veronica Midnight Oil - Blue Sky Mine Leonard Cohen - Hallelujah (but especially the John Cale version on _I'm Your Fan_) (and I'm not even religious) Tom Waits - Johnsburg, Illinois; A Soldier's Things the Rheostatics - Queer (from the _Whale Music_ album - I'm not exaggerating in the slightest when I say this album is one of the highest achievements in western hemisphere rock music) John Lennon - several things, Grow Old With Me, Watching the Wheels, Starting Over - I was 12 and a stone fan in 1980,... >Another is Crash Test Dummies' "Superman song" - and I >don't even like that band very much Yep - that one too! I like the band fine (their more recent stuff is underrated, especially if you dig fretless bass) Richard Thompson - 1952 Vincent Black Lightning, Al Bowlly's in Heaven da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: silent little spiderman On Thu, 3 May 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > I used to watch Electric Company, but it always pissed me off that > Spiderman wouldn't talk. Hey! Me too! I can't believe that actually bothered anyone else! I mean, I am aware of the fundamental sameness of human experience, and the fact that there are a finite number of brain-states, and furthermore I don't labor under the delusion that I'm so very _very_ special and different from every other person on this vast planet, but all the same....wow! Me too! I also found the Electric Company too loud and surprising. I preferred the mellow predictability of Sesame Street (though that typewriter scared me, and I wasn't too sure of the pinball machine). Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:40:49 -0400 From: /dev/woj Subject: Re: WanderLust when we last left our heroes, Sirloin Stockade exclaimed: >"See," explained Eb, "a friend of mine (whom I'll just call 'Shuttlecock') >scored some sweet front-row tickets to the Tool concert on the 12th. Man, >that's going to be a night to remember. Some wine, some women, some song. >Maybe a fuckin' doobie or three. Good times, man. Good motherfuckin' >times." *** Tool to tour with King Crimson (Launch) - Tool will hit the road with veteran prog-rockers King Crimson in August, according to Tool's Web site and a spokesperson for the group. Tool is reportedly planning to play seven dates in August with Crimson. Exact dates and venues had not been announced at press time. Meanwhile, Tool's appearance at the Dynamo Festival in Holland has been cancelled due to problems with hoof-and-mouth disease in the area where the festival was to have taken place. Tool is touring in support of its May 15 release, "Lateralus." The band's tour includes a release date show at the Tabernacle in Atlanta with gigs on May 17 at Chicago's the Riviera, May 18 at Detroit's State Theater and May 20 at New York's Hammerstein Ballroom. Tool has also committed to touring Europe in late May and early June before returning to North America to play Edgefest on July 1 in Toronto. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:58:24 -0400 From: "Ken_Weingold -> /dev/null/woj" Subject: Re: silent little spiderman On Fri, May 4, 2001, Viv Lyon wrote: > On Thu, 3 May 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > > > I used to watch Electric Company, but it always pissed me off that > > Spiderman wouldn't talk. > > Hey! Me too! I can't believe that actually bothered anyone else! I mean, > I am aware of the fundamental sameness of human experience, and the fact > that there are a finite number of brain-states, and furthermore I don't > labor under the delusion that I'm so very _very_ special and different > from every other person on this vast planet, but all the same....wow! Me > too! Yes. I feel almost "dumb" admitting that it annoyed me knowing it was supposed to teach you to read. Oh well. I seem to have turned out relatively okay. :-/ > I also found the Electric Company too loud and surprising. I preferred the > mellow predictability of Sesame Street (though that typewriter scared me, > and I wasn't too sure of the pinball machine). I LOVED the pinball machine! And that cool music along with it. Ever see Sesame Street Unpaved? It's a current (I think) show on some cable channel. I haven't watched much of it, but I understand that it is the favorite "skits" of the people from the show. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 16:03:19 -0000 From: "Lilac Doorway" Subject: Freebird to Earwigs Mahoney: >at least they didnt yell out "do freebird!" Ahhhh, the great male anthem of my generation. I knew my husband had grown up when I got him to crack up at my version of the song--which consisted of what the woman and guy were really thinking while the guy is posing. Guy: "If I leaaaaave here tomorrow" (I havent been laid in a 3 days) Girl:(You're whining dear. And for some reason its really irratating me.) Guy: "Cause Im as free as a bird " (I need some sex) Girl: ( Why are you -still- whining? If you want to go, go. Let me guess, you want me to do your laundrey first. Damn I feel grouchy.) Guy: " And this bird you cannot change" (I really need some sex) Girl: (You're still whining and youre still here.) Guy: "And this bird you cannnnnot change" (Godamn it, what do I have to do to get some sex around here?) Girl: (Does this song go on forever? Godamn it, how do I get you to shut up and leave already? Hmmm thou, you do look kinda cute with the sun backlighting your hair. And you sure know how to wear those jeans well. Very well. Ohhhhh, and whats that?) Guy: "And this bird you cannot chaaaaannnnnggge" (You'll regret it when Im gone. Im good on you. You know that. What happens when you gets horny and Im gone. You'll miss me. Oh yeah, you'll -really- miss me.") Girl:"You wanna have sex?" Guy: "Well, if -you're- in the mood." Music stops whining here and gains both tempo and life. Afterwords both sing a gratifieingly off-key version of the Allman's "Blue Skies."(scenerio circa 1975) HAL on Lennon: >And even earlier, "Help!" was (originally) conceived by John as a >melancholy ballad. In the PLAYBOY interview just before he died, he >mentioned that he had always regretted allowing the Beatles upbeat >treatment of that song, since it disguised the intended painful >>message That makes sense. It was "Help" where I specifiaclly went for John's music, specifiacally "Hide Your Love Away." To tie this into the childhood music thread, I think I was about 10. I remember getting the albumn and playing that song over and over. Hmmm, so right after the Beatles went big seems like John got depressed. Hal or anyone--did he get treatment or just self-medicate(why do I feel I know the answer to this one even thou I dont know the answer;-)? Early TV: The Man from Uncle (first crush--Ilya Kuriachin, -great- hair.) Ed Sulliven Show Diver Dan The Sunny Fox show Rompher Room Captain Kangeroo Bonanza Dick van Dyke Show Little Rascals Rocky and the Bull Old b/w comedies--Abbott&Costello, Laurel&Hardy and loads of Bowery Boys, these were often on the non-network channels like 9 and 11(Hi fellow mature-vintage New Yawker Jill.) Alittle older: Addams Familly(and since Id played in Charles Addams's real house(which was Goth long before Goth)I really loved it.) The Munsters(which I also loved cause Fred Gwynne was at our beach club and really really was tall.) Get Smart Hogans Heros Monkees Avengers(second crush-Mrs Peel) Secret Agent Laugh in Smothers Bros(which I was old enough to realize was watered down and sorta hootanannish-square) Susan, where can you buy this Demeter stuff? I dont usually wear scent but I like the sound of this >A Fred >and Ginger movie is a bit like comfort food to me, that way.. But of course, ... if we're sisters we grew up in the same familly(shudder) with the same dancing thru The great depression comfort movies. Same for FH Burnett. Secret Garden and Little Princess were constant reads. And Lamb's Tales from Shakespeare. And this big green poetry book I wish I could remember the name of. And any history or bio with pictures. Also Narnia, which along with my English tea-drinking nannies probobly readied me for all things Brit. (The accent alone still makes me feel 8.) By the way, good reading of the walnut song--and good reading in general of early Hitchcock stuff. One of the reasons I like the CD Jewells for Sophia so much is that he's so happilly sexual in it. I love seeing when people can get passed themselves. Gives us all hope:-) Adieu, to yu and yu and yu(other strong childhood influence, but Doe-a-Dear's a -long way- from East Grimstead. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:19:26 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Wells & SF Michael writes, >Well, I'm in the Wells fanclub too. It's odd how his 'literary' reputation >has sunk so far - I think it may be part of the lit crit "science fiction >is not literature" vendetta. What are your views, Quail? You know about >lit crit. To be honest, there is a bit of a divide between English and American lit crit with regards to SF, and your view may be biased due to your English perspective. Though SF has always been somewhat short-shafted by the Lit Crit Establishment, here in the States it is somewhat more respected, and writers such as Wells, Ballard, Lem, Dick, and so on have a lot more academic credibility than they do in England. It does flip-flop around though, on occasion -- and the press on either side of the pond also go back and forth, especially since the sixties. After a period of genre relaxation in the sixties, England swung back the other way under the Thatcher years, and SF was "out" again. That's not so much the case over here, though some of that was felt, too. >Incidentally, VS always reminds me of Michael Moorcock's dynamite >"Dancers at the End of Time" where Jherek Carnelian travels back to >Victorian times and starts chatting up a [heavens!] married woman!!! I love that series! And if I may SERIOUSLY name drop here -- please forgive me, but I can't resist! -- Michael Moorcock and I were just discussing the very topic of literary criticism and science fiction, and the difference between the US and UK. (He wrote me a while back regarding The Modern Word, and has proven to be quite the chatty fellow. It's weird when one of your teenage heroes writes *you.*) So your letter was kind of a mind-blowing coincidence.... - --The Great "did I also mention that J.G. Ballard is in my kitchen making me a sandwich right now?" Quail - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library. --J.L. Borges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:38:21 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: another long rambling message >My sense of the surreal was encouraged in a broader sense by early >'70's >kid programs. Yes!! There was this show on Nickelodeon called "Pinwheel." It was a composite of many different shows, including "The Magic Roundabout," which was brilliant, and it was hosted by these two Bert & Ernie-type characters named Plus and Minus. It was on during the day, so I could only watch it when I was home sick from school. On Canadian TV, there was "The Friendly Giant" - boy, I wish I could see that again. I loved the theme music and the little cow jumping over the moon in the title sequence. Before that was "Mr. Dress-Up," whom Ross O. and I agree was kind of a perv. Good ol' Casey and Finnegan... I also remember seeing an educational show on public TV about art, where a kid hung out with the human embodiments of Shade and Hue (or maybe it was Color and Texture), who were always fighting. But my weirdest TV experience was when I was very, very sick with the flu - my fever was so high that I was hallucinating - and my parents let me stay up to watch "The Shock of the New" (which my parents wittily called "The Shlock of the New"), a series about modern art on public TV. Unfortunately for my poor fever-soaked brain, this particular episode was about surrealism. To this day, I still have no idea how much of what I saw was real, and how much was hallucination. Re. records to listen to when you need a good cry, "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" is my top choice. Nick Drake is good too. Once, when in a weepy mood, I put "Flavour of Night" on repeat, and listened to it five times in a row. n. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:58:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: This is the weeping song On Fri, 4 May 2001, Motherfucking Asshole wrote: > i may have said this before, but i maintain that connie francis' > I'll Be Home For Christmas is the best drowning your sorrows song > *ever*. Oh my god. In grade school, the choir would go to nursing homes around Christmas to cheer up the old folks. I've never understood why tuneless, spiritless warbling by a bunch of snotty kids (who didn't want to be there) was supposed to cheer up thes poor people, but there it is. At any rate, the music teacher decided for some unfathomable reason to have us sing "I'll be Home for Christmas." It being the day before Christmas eve, it seemed pretty clear that many of these folks would be nowhere near home for Christmas, if they even had real homes anymore. This was made all the clearer by the wails and lamentations of the inmates upon the singing of this song. I will never forget that horrible day, when I realized that most people die frail and alone and scared, and even Christmas can't fix things.. Thanks a lot, Ms. Anderson. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:46:39 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: childhood musical inspirations? On Wed, May 2, 2001, Karen Reichstein wrote: > If this topic has already been addressed long ago, ignore it. > > What music did you listen to in childhood that, in your opinion, directly > influenced your taste for the sometimes fanciful, sometimes dark music of > Robyn Hitchock? Dark? That didn't come til much later one. From when I was about 3 years old it was Kiss Kiss Kiss. My cousin way back then gave me The Originals, the first three records in one set. It was missing Dressed To Kill, though. Picture this little 3 or 4 year-old with a pair of Sony headphones bigger than my head sitting in front of the stereo listening to Hotter Than Hell. I thought Parasite was the greatest thing in the world. Probably fucked me up for life. :) - -Ken NP: Jets To Brazil - Orange Rhyming Dictionary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:17:53 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: the influenza of youth... On Fri, 4 May 2001, Mark Gloster wrote: > >What music did you listen to in childhood that, in your opinion, directly > >influenced your taste for the sometimes fanciful, sometimes dark > music of > >Robyn Hitchock? okay, i've been sorta skimming, but did *no one* say "tom lehrer???" but yeah, i think books are more apropos, especially juster (_phantom tollbooth_) and roald dahl. it was on the recommendation of someone on this list that i read _at swim two birds_, weren't it? and if somebody's keeping track of fegbooks still, matt ruff's "sewer, gass & electric" surely out to have a place on it, if it don't already. mebbe even the modern word. > Free speech message 1: if your music sounds at all like '80's somebody > is going find it necessary to say something about "Flock of Seagulls" > or "Cindy Lauper." I believe in non-violence, so I try to stay away > from these people. i've grown moderately inured to the t. heads comparisons, and quite like being compared to stamey-era dbs. the one that flipped me out recently was dio. "dio!????" (we don't have any keys -- well, 'cept our producer playing unexpected organ on one song -- which is one of many reasons "flock of" have never come up. yet. but dio?!!!?) - -- d. np firewater _psychopharmocology_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:27:59 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: surreal early 70's public television >That Sid Krofft (sp) show whose name I forget just now electra woman and dyna girl? land of the lost? the boogaloos? > I used to watch Electric Company, but it always pissed me off that > Spiderman wouldn't talk. considering that spidey's wit is the best part of the comic, it's a crime that they would dumb him down like that. oh yeah, and down with organic webshooters! ken "the undeniably perfect shape of my ass wows 'em every time" the kenster np girls can tell spoon (who opened for gbv tuesday night. rob & co played 49 songs ending it off with a version of baba o'riley) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:34:47 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Boys Don't Cry >On Thu, 3 May 2001, Lilac Doorway wrote: > --You know you need a good cry. What music do you put on? Oooh, this is a fun thread! Let me go overboard.... I can sometimes very easily cry to music, and not always because I am sad or depressed, but sometimes certain chord changes or something just bring tears to my eyes. When I feel a crying jag coming on, I usually select -- depending on my mood --: Nick Cave -- "The Boatman's Call" Elvis Costello -- "Almost Blue" or "Painted from Memory" Silly Wizard -- "Live Wizardry" (Contains some heartbreaking Andy M. Stewart tunes!) Philip Glass -- "Solo Piano" Frank Sinatra -- "Only the Lonely" Van Morrison -- "No Guru No Method No Teacher" Sentimental sap that I am, Harry Chapin and Tom Waits can also occasionally get me. The most I have ever cried over music in my life: 1. Rufus Wainwright at the Bowery Ballroom. I had a lot of bottled up emotions in the month preceding this show, and when I saw it, Roofies just totally uncorked me. I sat there, tears running down my eyes and crying like a baby for almost half the songs. I wanted to hug him afterwards. 2. Andrew M. Stewart live at PSU. I was drunk, and had just been dumped. And his Scottish ballads just killed me. 3. "Madama Butterfly" at the NY City Opera. I usually don't fall for Italian opera, but something that night -- my mood, the minimalist production, and the soprano herself.... I broke down a few times during the opera, and came close to bawling out loud during "Un bel di vedremo," (the main aria -- you'd know it if you heard it.) I felt like Cher in "Moonstruck" -- " I mean, I knew she was sick, but I didn't think she'd die!" 4. "Monsters of Grace," at BAM. Philip Glass/Robert Wilson's song cycle based on poems by Rumi. Many songs made me weep -- but for a good reason. The lyricism of the love songs....wow. 5. "Tristan und Isolde" at the Met. Jane Eaglen and Ben Heppner. Like Glass, the music and poetry and in this case, the plot itself, it always gets to me.... There are only three composers who can actually make me cry with their music alone, without the help of any lyrics or narrative: Beethoven, Wagner, and Philip Glass. In fact, Wagner's "Siegfried's Funeral March" even makes me cry during the movie Excalibur. - --The Great "It's like it's always my time of the month" Quail - -- +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #179 ********************************