From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #178 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, May 4 2001 Volume 10 : Number 178 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: rod sterling in chilling color!!!!! [Stephen Mahoney ] re: Floyd Movies ["victorian squid" ] re: Floyd Movies [Stephen Mahoney ] anigot no privaceee! ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] surreal early 70's public television [Carole Reichstein ] Re: Wonders never stop [steve ] "This type of thing would never happen in the Northeast," [steve ] the influenza of youth... [Mark Gloster ] WanderLust ["Sirloin Stockade" ] Re: This is the weeping song [Motherfucking Asshole ] Re: compilations [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Herbert George [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: rod sterling in chilling color!!!!! On Thu, 3 May 2001, victorian squid wrote: > used to get up at night and sneak-watch "Night Gallery". yesyesyes!!!!! to this day I have a couple of images stuck in my head from this show one was of the father of happy days getting a huge sum of money for donating his eyes so that some rich broad could see for a few brief blurred seconds and the other was about this earwig which crawled inside your head driving you mad whilst it ate your brain....for one poor fellow, who survived the ordeal the earwig left through the other side but the punchline was that the earwig laid eggs!!!!!!!!!!! whew all that and it was in vivid color too!!!!!!!!!!!! now THAT gave me nightmares more than anything else and it was on early sunday evenings.......... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:07:01 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: Big Walnuts On Wed, 02 May 2001 22:06:23 JH3 wrote: >"the size of a walnut." So maybe it just means that "this feeling I >feel about you" goes beyond the brain and into the very soul/heart/ >core-of-being, etc. etc. Generally I think it's about discomfort with being in a physical, sexual body, which was apparently a very unhappy thing for him at the time (so many of the early SBs songs in particular seem to revolve around discomfort with being in a physical, "meat" body and being a sexual creature). It's difficult to put into words but here's how I read the imagery. Please bear in mind that this is all IMHO and all that: 1. Even your mother and father and brother and Kenneth who works at the newsagents are also humans that bang bang bang. Wow. 2. Even lobsters just bang bang bang all the time. 3. Humans eat lobsters. Lobsters (sometimes) eat humans. So we're all meat and all part of the "lobster gang" in that sense. 4. To be perfectly blunt I think walnut=clitoris. I think this is a joky way of saying- "to me you are more than the sum of your parts". Discomfort with the traditional male role of pursuer and the sort of macho thing of "treating women like meat" fits in here too. Also an uncomfortable but honest admission that he's just like all the other drooling males who want a piece of this woman in the respect that he does lust after her. He does want more from her, maybe. But is he really any better than any of the rest of the hungry, lusting living meat when all is said and done? Isn't it all really about reproducing and being part of the cycle anyway? Again, that's just how I read the imagery. The preoccupations are serious but the song strikes me as being a self-deprecating goof on them, or perhaps on the absurdity of the whole sex-death-lobsterfood cycle and our instinctive drive to participate in it. loveonya, Susan "As any excited lobster would, the male fans his pleopods more and more frequently as the day of the female molt approaches" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:13:52 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: re: Floyd Movies On Wed, 2 May 2001 16:41:29 Stephen Mahoney wrote: >next thing you will be telling me >that brittany spears and destinys child are going to carry on the dead >show at the autzen stadium!!!!!!!!!!! If the Flaming Lips on 90210 blows your mind, you'd best skip the B52s 1982 "Guiding Light" appearance. I wouldn't want to be sitting outside La Bonita Taqueria, calmly enjoying a burrito, and have a piece of your exploded head land in my salsa. I hope you understand :). loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:28:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: re: Floyd Movies yeah and that aussie guy from general hospital made a movie about being a rock star and olivia newton john was a roller skating nymph with the tubes battling it out with a big band and gene kelly was in it opened a club and they all lived ever after...... and one of the stars of bergman films was in a movie with bob and doug mackenzie .......yeah right!!!!! On Thu, 3 May 2001, victorian squid wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2001 16:41:29 Stephen Mahoney wrote: > > >next thing you will be telling me > >that brittany spears and destinys child are going to carry on the dead > >show at the autzen stadium!!!!!!!!!!! > > If the Flaming Lips on 90210 blows your mind, you'd best skip the B52s > 1982 "Guiding Light" appearance. I wouldn't want to be sitting outside > La Bonita Taqueria, calmly enjoying a burrito, and have a piece of your > exploded head land in my salsa. I hope you understand :). > > loveonya, > susan > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > Number of Floridian ex-cons denied the right to vote last November because of felony convictions : 525,000 Source: Brennan Center for Justice (N.Y.C.) Number of times a Floridian can be convicted of DUI before the infraction becomes a felony : 3 Source: Mothers Against Drunk Driving (Irving, Tex.) Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 16:35:16 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: anigot no privaceee! >From: "Mike wells" >The mostly mindless dreck pumping out of the clear >channel stations back in the late 70's, early 80's - we're talking Rockwell >here people - Oh, now come on, if you're going to bash early 80s music you can go much much lower than Rockwell! Apart from Men at Work, who else was topping the charts with an evocation of quotidian paranoia? And doing shower scenes in his video for same? Pick on DeBarge if you must! Or bash that awful Nails song. Ugh. Early 80s music was so WEIRD. I just heard Ian Dury for the first time a few weeks ago. "Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick"? I think Robyn fit in quite well with that general atmosphere, if you're just talking oddness. This was an era during which your great-aunt's favorite pop singer might have been a drag queen. RuPaul is all right, but vs. the Boy there is no contest. >From: "Natalie Jacobs" >The early days of MTV primed me for surrealism. Which supports my point. :) I've pointed out before that the video for "Madonna of the Wasps" was the first I'd ever heard of this funny Hitchcock fellow. >From: "Lilac Doorway" >- --You know you need a good cry. What music do you put on? Actually...it might be suddenly, tammy! or Sixpence None the Richer. Radiohead's "Exit Music (for a film)" works for me. That Coldplay record is pretty weepy. But I don't need a good cry that often, and I can clearly remember the last time I put on music specifically for that purpose, but I can't remember what music it was. Puressence? It wasn't something substantial and moving, that's for sure. Scoff away. :) >From: Eclipse >let me be the first to answer this, since i'm probably first in the queue >of people who've had a good cry lately. for me, hands down, it's Grant >Lee Phillips' _Ladies' Love Oracle_. "Foldin'" and "Flamin' Shoe" can >always turn on the waterworks. Good call. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: surreal early 70's public television Since our parents didn't really have that many records, as Karen pointed out (we don't think they were really affected much by the sixties at all), My sense of the surreal was encouraged in a broader sense by early '70's kid programs. For example: Electric Company That Sid Krofft (sp) show whose name I forget just now Sigmund the Sea Monster "Ramblin' Rod (a local kiddie show that showed violent Looney Tunes cartoons") ..but I especially remember this bizarre "Oregon Public Broadcasting" kids show on Sunday mornings called "Bumpity." Do any other NW Fegs remember this?? It featured a jabba the hut-like green velcro creature (that was "Bumpity") and then a feeble, red and blue striped sock called "Fred the Worm." I would be thrilled if anyone else other than my sisters remember this bizarre show. Ahh, the Seventies. Carole ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 22:04:58 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: surreal early 70's public television On Thu, May 3, 2001, Carole Reichstein wrote: > Since our parents didn't really have that many records, as Karen pointed > out (we don't think they were really affected much by the sixties at all), > My sense of the surreal was encouraged in a broader sense by early '70's > kid programs. For example: > > Electric Company I used to watch Electric Company, but it always pissed me off that Spiderman wouldn't talk. > That Sid Krofft (sp) show whose name I forget just now > Sigmund the Sea Monster Kroft Superstars. Sid and Marty Kroft. - -Ken <-- can leap tall builings in a single bound ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 19:10:38 -0700 From: "Renee Haggart" Subject: Re: surreal early 70's public television ahh, Bumpity! As kids my sister and I were always trying to figure out exactly what the hell he was. We decided he was just a "bump" of grass-covered dirt, kind of an old molehill, and that his friend "Fred" lived inside him. No wonder we grew up to love Robyn... wonder if Bumpity has any kind of a webpage...he never made it onto a lunchbox like Sigmund or Pufnstuf, but he was cool. >show on Sunday mornings called "Bumpity." Do any other NW Fegs remember >this?? It featured a jabba the hut-like green velcro creature (that was >"Bumpity") and then a feeble, red and blue striped sock called "Fred the >Worm." I would be thrilled if anyone else other than my sisters remember >this bizarre show. Ahh, the Seventies. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 23:35:38 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: childhood musical inspirations? On Thursday, May 3, 2001, at 12:42 AM, Karen Reichstein wrote: > Anybody else got any particularly influential childhood records? The Siamese Cat Song Goldfinger and Born To Be Wild - - Steve __________ Is this thing on? Sent via OS X Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 23:44:25 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Wonders never stop On Thursday, May 3, 2001, at 02:45 AM, Mike Swedene wrote: > Fatboy slim Video on.... > Has Christopher Walken on it.... > DANCING? Not seen Pennies From Heaven 1981, I'd guess. - - Steve __________ Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown! - Darph Bobo http://www.trippingtherift.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:00:11 -0500 From: steve Subject: "This type of thing would never happen in the Northeast," Just had to share: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/05/04/darwin/index.html - - Steve __________ Never underestimate the power of a Dark Clown! - Darph Bobo http://www.trippingtherift.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:07:32 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: childhood influences >If this topic has already been addressed long ago, ignore it. > >What music did you listen to in childhood that, in your opinion, directly >influenced your taste for the sometimes fanciful, sometimes dark music of >Robyn Hitchock? during childhood I had very little rock music available to me at home. My dad was a big country fan (Jim Reeves in particular) and also loved Harry Belafonte, but that didn't interest me at all. Mum, although she has since warmed thoroughly to rock, was into the light Roger Whittaker stuff. The only rock album we had up until I was about twelve and starting to hunt for music for myself was A Hard Day's Night. I just about played the grooves off that one. So a weird mix, really - Belafonte, Whittaker, and the Beatles. For some reason, once I really discovered pop and rock, I binged on Simon and Garfunkel and Paul Simon's first few solo records, and devoured the Beatles catalogue. I can also remember being introduced to Supertramp, Abba, and (gah!) Gerry Rafferty in my mid-teens, but I suspect it was Simon and Garfunkel and the Beatles with a slight touch of Roger Whittaker that led the way. About the same time I discovered 10CC - especially Godley and Creme's work. At age 15 or so, I started getting very interested in the burgeoning post-punk-power-pop thing, and when I saw a video on TV for a song called "Are you receiving me?" by XTC, I fell for it heavily. In my first year of university, my friend Derek (God bless him) introduced me to Eno, Fripp, Talking Heads, The Church, Lou Reed, Bowie, and the Soft Boys. The rest is history. >If we're broadening the scary scope a little.... then I can explain the Simon and Garfunkel kick. I was in hospital and woke up at 2 am after having my appendix out, aged circa 15. I was frightened, I was alone, it was dark and I hurt. I put the radio on and was hit full force by "Sound of Silence", the first time I'd consciously been aware of the song. You want chilling??? PS - if you want to work out how old I am, my first words (according to my mum) were "yeah, yeah, yeah". >2. The Buggles 45: Video Killed the Radio Star/Kid Dynamo from 1979 when I >was 8. BTW The Age of Plastic is still one of my favorite albums. heh. One track on that album is special to me, as I was born three miles from Elstree, and my dad did appear in the occasional B-movie! James np - Bookends nf - Israel - white, with a light blue Magen David between two thin light blue horizontal stripes James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:16:25 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: music to go waah to/formative TV shows >- --You know you need a good cry. What music do you put on? ye gods, another new thread! "While you sleep" by the Muttonbirds gets me every time. Every damn time. Most of the rest of the 'Envy of Angels' albums makes me choke up from time to time, too, but that song is a killer. Another is Crash Test Dummies' "Superman song" - and I don't even like that band very much yet another is Hunters and Collectors' "Throw your arms around me" and "Around the flame" add in Nick Cave's "The Ship Song" >Kate Bush's _The Sensual World_ yeh, add "Never be mine" to the list I guess I'm just a bundle of blub. >A Sigmund & the Sea Monster reference - now that'll date you. Oh God, to see >those little furry green seaweed bastards shuffling around again... >Try these on for size: >Wonder Woman (duh...) hm. "Do not adjust your set"; "The Banana Splits"; "The Magic Roundabout"; "The Champions" (anyone else remember this weird superhero show?) "Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)" (I think this was called "My partner the ghost" in the US) "Sapphire and Steel" (THE greatest TV science fiction show ever?); "The Goodies"; and, of course, "The Avengers" James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 07:13:06 From: "carole reichstein" Subject: This is the weeping song Kay asked about what music to put on when you need a good cry. Oh, where to start? It depends on what sort of a cry. If you've been dumped, there's nothing better than hearing Robyn do a cover of "Silver Dagger" (I heard it first on one of Bayard's "Hatched Crablings" compilation--thanks Bayard!). I haven't yet heard the Joan Baez version. Robyn just does it so beautifully, especially that "no, no, no" bit. When you're feeling miserably outcast, you can always put on sad/vengeful/wistful/melancholy Robyn songs like a faithful lover. Aside from Robyn, these are my personal faves: Richard Thompson, old Tom Waits ("Martha" makes me weep even when I'm in a *good* mood!), Elliott Smith (mix with Bushmill's whiskey--even more effective), Peter Murphy's "Love Hysteria" (but then, this is just my nostalgia for an old '80's romance--geez I feel old), David Sylvian's "Secrets of the Beehive" (ditto), "Songs for Pele" by Tori Amos, "Automatic for the People" by REM...this list could go on and on, so I'll stop here. xxx Carole _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 00:12:20 -0700 From: Mark Gloster Subject: the influenza of youth... >"Karen Reichstein" (if that is her real name) said: >What music did you listen to in childhood that, in your opinion, directly >influenced your taste for the sometimes fanciful, sometimes dark music of >Robyn Hitchock? My oldest brother was into the Beatles, the Doors, Walter/Wendy Carlos, and a bunch of other stuff, but _he_ had the record player. I kinda got bored with the things that he listened to except for Mason Williams. He was weird and cool. As a young person I really liked the Turtles, The Kinks, The Who, The Irish Rovers, Trini Lopez, The Banana Splits and other towering giants of entertainment. When the seventies hit, I followed into proggie stuff: ELP, Yes, King Crimson, and Genesis; and then to the proggie pop: things like Kansas (yes, there were some good bits, but overall I'm more embarrassed about them than what I liked about disco- but I'm getting ahead of m'self.) The seventies brought me more and more appreciation of Frank Zappa. Oh, and my first concert should have been Steely Dan- amazing stuff. Suddenly in about '77, a few really great things happened in my music discovery: Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, Sex Pistols, Warren Zevon, and Tuff Darts. I actually really got into some disco: Santa Esmerelda, Heatwave, Wild Cherry, AWB, etc. Tower of Power still gets me. As I feel like not letting go of childhood too soon, I was profoundly influenced in the early eighties by Wall of Voodoo, B-52's, Oingo Boingo, Laurie Anderson... I did listen to Dr. Dimento when I could as a small person. I always loved Spike Jones and really liked Roger Miller, but my parents were a little afraid of having their records around the house. We listened to Pete Seeger and whatever was "safe." Once, as a teenager I asked my dad if he liked rock music. He said "yes, I like Bread and Neil Diamond a lot." I always felt as though I had been some alien/human genetic project (that had obviously gone horribly wrong.) I was always thirsty for funny, absurd, and interesting- while most people wanted comfy or downright boring. So, to get back to the question: I suppose that the following helped find some of the same lyrical hooks in me that Robyn does: Turtles Kinks Who Irish Rovers Zappa Talking Heads Zevon Tuff Darts Python - ---- Here's an answer to a question not asked: As a musician and songwriter, I sometimes struggle with influences. I think that two of my best tunes wouldn't have been written that way musically without my exposure to King Crimson. Sometimes naked expressions of one's influence in art gives critical people a handle to deny the art itself. If I could take back anything about my CD, it would be that I would simplify everything I had done, make it less BIG sounding and just hope that people would be a bit more inclined to see inside the songs. Free speech message 1: if your music sounds at all like '80's somebody is going find it necessary to say something about "Flock of Seagulls" or "Cindy Lauper." I believe in non-violence, so I try to stay away from these people. Free speech message 2: people who are overly critical of your work are not necessarily insane or stupid, unless by "your" this means "my." Happies, - -Markg "Reverb forever!" - Eddie "Fuckin'" Tews ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 00:25:47 -0700 From: "Sirloin Stockade" Subject: WanderLust Chapter 3 Rum, Sodomy, And Eb's Gash "Yeah," announced Eb, to no one in particular, "this one's pretty much in the bag. As per usual, my testimony will have saved the day. What can I say? The undeniably perfect shape of my ass wows 'em every time. Sometimes I wonder why I even retain an attorney at all." Gerard (Eb's attorney) winced uneasily, as Eb returned to filing his nails. After some time, Judge Abraham returned to the courtroom to read the verdict. "Ahem. In the case of The People Of Los Angeles vs. Eb, the defendant has been found GUILTY of having last Friday at The Duplex COMMITTED the following CRIMES: one count of PUBLIC URINATION, three counts of INDECENT EXPOSURE, eight counts of LORRY DEFACEMENT, and four-and-three-quarters counts of UNSPEAKABLE ACTS. Defendant is hereby SENTENCED to one week in the stoney lonesome." Judge Abraham then shrugged to his trainee, Judge Stuart, "And that's pretty much it, really. There'll be a few papers to sign in a minute, and then we can go back to my chambers and knock back a highball or three." Eb nudged Gerard with his elbow, "Say, guy, when does that start?" "Huh? Oh, um, let me check." Gerard began riffling through his Pee-Chee. "See," explained Eb, "a friend of mine (whom I'll just call 'Shuttlecock') scored some sweet front-row tickets to the Tool concert on the 12th. Man, that's going to be a night to remember. Some wine, some women, some song. Maybe a fuckin' doobie or three. Good times, man. Good motherfuckin' times." "Let's see..." Gerard held up the sheet of paper. "Looks like orientation is on the 8th (bring a bag lunch), you'll check in at 6:00 on the morning of the 10th, the 14th is a field trip to the Wax Museum, and you're a free man again as of the 17th." "Fuckin' a-hole," Eb muttered reflexively. Then, as the implications of the data stream sank in, Eb leapt to the table-top, brandishing his emery board as though it were the very Sword of Isur itself. "YOU FUCKIN' A-HOLE," he screamed at Judge Abraham. "Don't you know who I am? I am VERY well connected in this town." He added, as an aside to Dr. Hiboshi, "(Not to mention that I'm hung like a damned walrus.)" Then returning his attentions to Judge Abraham he continued, "You may as well know, I have access to the so-called 'World Wide Web' -- including www.mapblast.com. It'll be easier than you can *possibly* imagine for me to obtain driving directions to your house, you dick. You're lucky I don't bitch-slap you right now." Eb paused, opened his mouth to light in to Judge Abraham again, then abruptly turned to Gerard, dropped his "drawers", and instructed, "Tickle my nuts." "What?" Eb repeated, somewhat more urgently, "*Tickle my nuts*, man. It helps me think." "Uh..." Gerard looked around uncomfortably. "I'm not sure I..." Presently, an amused courtroom patron chuckled from the back row, "Hey, Eb! Looks from here as though your pilchards have hatched (har, har)!" Eb either didn't hear, or pretended not to hear (most likely the latter, quite frankly). Instead, he queried Gerard, "The fuck do I pay you for, a-hole? You already lost the case for me. Now, *get busy*." After three minutes, forty-five seconds, a smile slowly crossed Eb's lips as he craned his torso back toward Judge Abraham, nodded enthusiastically, and pointed. "You get some loose cannons in here," Judge Abraham whispered to Judge Stuart. "Think they're gonna save the world (and whatnot). They're pretty harmless." But Judge Stuart could smell the fear welling inside Judge Abraham's bosom. Eb, having completely cinched up his trousers by now, turned to fully face the judges, and then spat a loogie roughly the size of a small nectarine in their direction. Judge Abraham sat motionless, ashen with fear. But Judge Stuart (being yet young and, perhaps, not so wise) remonstrated, "You know, in many jurisdictions you'd be getting quite close to a contempt ruling right now. Were I you--" "FUCK YOU, FUCKWAD!" interrupted Eb, before musing, "Boy, I could sure go for a big fuck-off taco right now." "Whaddya say, guy?" he asked Gerard, climbing down off the table. But Gerard had (for better or worse) already fled the premises. Later that same day, as Eb stood in line at Bud's Taco Mart, his hunger pangs grew by leaps and by bounds. As he reached the cashier, though, he yet displayed the patience (borne from a deep inner peace) to inquire about the daily special. "Hot buttered ass," replied Jerome, the cashier. Eb was aghast. "As the owner of no fewer than seventeen pedigreed donkeys, I--" he suddenly wheeled to face a sniggering elderly man wearing the vestments of a highland monk. "Something funny? How if I stick a white-hot poker up your a-hole -- and I'm NOT talking about my 'rod' (although more than one person has described it using precisely those terms)? You won't be laughing *then*, will you?" Eb then returned his attentions to Jerome. "As the owner of no fewer than seventeen pedigreed donkeys, I take the *gravest* possible offence!" "No," protested Jerome. "I mean 'ass' as in, you know...sphincter (and all that lot)." "Oh," replied Eb merrily, "I'll take one of those. Could I get it prepared halal?" "Oh, of course," replied Jerome. As he received his change, Eb assured Jerome, "VERY GOOD, THANK YOU!" On his way to the pick-up window, Eb "accidentally" bumped into the highland monk forcefully enough to send him sprawling. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:32:27 -0700 From: Motherfucking Asshole Subject: Re: This is the weeping song >I haven't yet heard the Joan Baez version. Robyn just does it so it *completely* sucks ass. of course, if you can stand her voice it all, it might be a bit better. i may have said this before, but i maintain that connie francis' I'll Be Home For Christmas is the best drowning your sorrows song *ever*. also, one time while i was feeling very sorry for myself after having been pitched out upon my sorry ass, Chinese Bones really spoke to me as it never had before. while i was driving over the evergreen point floating bridge, as i recall. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:47:15 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: compilations victorian squid wrote: > > p.s.- anyone remember the word "sphengew" (unsure of the spelling)? unless the spelling's very off, the combined lexicographical might of Collins Dictionaries (well, some of it, anyway) reckons this word is a hoax. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:47:39 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: compilations > victorian squid wrote: > > p.s.- anyone remember the word "sphengew" (unsure of the spelling)? On Fri, 4 May 2001, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > unless the spelling's very off, the combined lexicographical might of > Collins Dictionaries (well, some of it, anyway) reckons this word is a > hoax. 'Sphagnum', possibly (a type of moss)? - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:01:18 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Herbert George > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Well, I'm in the Wells fanclub too. It's odd how his 'literary' reputation > > has sunk so far - I think it may be part of the lit crit "science fiction > > is not literature" vendetta. On Wed, 2 May 2001, J. Brown wrote: > I think it may have more to do with Wells unsavory views on eugenics than > anything else. Interesting point, Jason. But eugenics was a popular enthusiasm in Fabian circles in the UK: certainly Marie Stopes was an enthusiast, and I expect that George Bernard Shaw, Beatrice Webb, E Nesbit and many others also believed in it. I seem to remember that the extensive eugenic programmes in the States were seen as 'progressive' at the time too (1900-1930ish). I think that they had (a) just not thought through the evil consequences and (b) were believers in 'scientific social control' by enlightened government for the public good. But I grant you that when you look at the all-powerful air police in the film of 'Things to Come' they appear much more sinister than Wells intended. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #178 ********************************