From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #163 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, April 27 2001 Volume 10 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- bicycle accidents... [Mark Gloster ] Braking a bike [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Wanderlust [Stephen Mahoney ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V10 #161 ["Walker, Charles" ] Re: Texas Tea [Michael Wolfe ] testing guided by voices on 10-11 demographic (0% RH) ["Poole, R. Edward"] Re: Wanderlust [Tom Clark ] FTC Again Lambastes... (fwd) [GSS ] Re: Texas Tea [Stephen Mahoney ] i get run over by the cars she used to drive [dmw ] Re: Wanderlust [HAL ] Re: Wanderlust [Viv Lyon ] A step away from state-sponsored terrorism... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: Wanderlust [Tom Clark ] Re: A step away from state-sponsored terrorism... [Stephen Mahoney ] Re: Wanderlust [Eb ] Re: Wanderlust [HAL ] Nomi [Eb ] Re: Nomi [Ken Weingold ] Blegvad's Leviathan book [Charles Gillett ] Re: Nomi [scary mary ] Re: my most valuable contribution yet ["Jason R. Thornton" ] cars vs bikes vs pedestrians (who will win?) [Viv Lyon Subject: bicycle accidents... Okay, I'm chaining my bike to a post in my garage. It's just that I'm afraid I'll be riding along, minding my own business, when I suddenly think of Lj and/or Vivien having an out of underpants flying bicycle experience and I will fly off my bike and down a sixty foot cliff, crushing my most valuable body parts. By the way, I thought I could have some organs removed and get Robyn to sign them and then sell them on Ebay. Maybe a certain feg would make me a very wealthy person. Then again, I probably could get more money out of people who hadn't met me. Happies, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:17:43 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Braking a bike - -- fegmaniax-digest is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 26. April 2001 12:43 Uhr -0400 regarding fegmaniax-digest V10 #159: >> Now, if I could just figure out how to -use- 21 gears and remember to >> press down on the back wheel brake first ... > > that's no way to stop a bike. The front brake's the one that does the > work. How so? What difference does it make? I usually use both simultaneously. When I was young I had some pretty cool crashes when braking only with the front one, because my bike would turn over - that's when I started using the back one... Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Wanderlust ahhhhh yes carl stalling, raymond scott, john zorn, marc ribot, don byron with wild rambling yarns leading you to either a place you have never been or helping you see something in a different light, that is the beauty of sounds and text put together. heck throw in some pollock kandinsky matisse picasso or '90's brice marden I would never deny someones need to create. That is one of the problems with this society, not enough art!!! On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, HAL wrote: > > >etews, please please please stop posting this shit... > > > No way! Eddie, your Tales of Eb are the very heart and soul of the > > List. > > I read 'em with Carl Stalling's classic Warner Bros. cartoon music on in > the background to enhance the experience. Keep it comin' Eddie. > > /hal, who "knows" Eb > "THE CATS ARE HUNGRY...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! Alone, only a harmless pet... One thousand strong, They become a man-eating machine!" - -ad for THE NIGHT OF A THOUSAND CATS, 1972. Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:37:10 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V10 #161 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:22:47 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Agreeing and Disagreeing Simultaneously 101 On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 01:37 PM, JH3 wrote: > The problem with the rest of what you're saying is that population > growth is a product of culture and basic human behavior as much > as (if not more than) economics. My personal (though arguable & > unsubstantiated) belief is that economics only affects birthrate to > the extent that it *changes culture.* Improved living conditions > don't necessarily cause you to stop having babies; you have to > *want* to stop having them because your values are based on > the idea that having more than one (or better yet, zero) offspring > is a bad thing, and that it doesn't mean you're "less of a man" or > "failing to realize your full potential as a woman" or not "serving > God" (sorry, "YHWH") properly. I dunno John, pretty much every study I've seen/heard of shows that, in general, an enhanced standard of living leads to smaller family size. And I'm pretty sure this is true across various cultures. Of course, there are isolated contra-examples, but those tend to be in situations where tight social control is exercised by authoritarian "governments" or religious institutions. - - - Steve I believe that the real reason that poorer families are larger is 1. lack of education reagarding birth control, 2. religious reasons, 3. they just don't care, and 4. sex is free - that is, it is the one thing that poor people can do just the same as the rich and with the same results. Sex puts them on the same playing field, the great equalizer - just like that TV show, The Equalizer. My theory here is the same with noise. Ever notice how poorer people tend to be noisier - that's because noise is free [all the psychological/attention getting reasons aside.] chas in LA where the Chicano teen pregnancy situation is still on the rise. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Wolfe Subject: Re: Texas Tea Terrance Marked: >It's also of note that the Alberta tar sands contain >mindbogglingly huge amounts of oil. It's a reserve equal or >exceeding that of Arabia. The only thing is that it's currently >expensive to process, and that Arabian oil is very cheap. I read this and get an image in my head of our culture as an alcoholic; drinking the beer out of ashtrays and checking the labels of mouthwash products for their buzz-generating potential. MUST...GET...MY...FIX!! Society as Barney Gumble. I am amused. Viv roared: >Maybe you can switch to Astroglide. That's water-based, right? Uh, well, assuming you're serious, the principle purpose of lube on the bike is actually to keep the chain from rusting. Whatever you use, it has to stick to the chain to be effective. So, I don't know how much help a water-based lube would be. However, there are a number of alternatives available -- White Lightning, for instance, is a paraffin based lube in an aqueous solution that some people claim works better than petroleum based products. So clearly there are options out there, and we probably haven't made all of the discoveries that we're going to make yet, either. - -Michael Wolfe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:45:43 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: testing guided by voices on 10-11 demographic (0% RH) ... but 100% music-related (kinda). And I know there are GBV fans out there... http://www.thestranger.com/2001-03-29/music3.html ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:50:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Wanderlust on 4/27/01 8:20 AM, scary mary at mad@loona.net wrote: > I agree too - I anxiously await the next installment. When the tale (tail?) > is finally over, who will play Eb in the movie? Eb would say Judge Reinhold, but I think the surrealism of the script calls for someone like... ...Klaus Nomi !!!! http://server3004.freeyellow.com/klausnomi/ Except that he's dead. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:53:45 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: FTC Again Lambastes... (fwd) Cool, it's the music industry's fault. At least we know how to fix this one. We just kill the bastards and then each other. http://www.bandname.com ==================================== FTC Again Lambastes the Music Industry for Marketing Violence to Kids Jim Bessman, 26 April 2001 The Federal Trade Commission has followed up its study last year on the marketing of violent entertainment product to children with a blistering report castigating the music industry for not responding. The FTC said that the industry hasn't followed through on such suggestions as stickering offending product with parental-advisory labels and otherwise identifying it in print ads and online retail sites. The Recording Industry Assn. of America claimed that the industry hasn't had enough time since the initial study to put the labeling program and other recommendations into effect. The Senate Commerce Committee also voiced criticism against the industry, but held back on any legislative measures. A third FTC study, focusing on retail, is due in the fall. A New York state Senate task force on media violence, meanwhile, has asked Internet music sites to prevent access of hate songs to kids. Suggestions include labeling to help parents monitor what's available online to their kids, and making offending material off-limits to younger users. The action arose following a report by The New York Post that hate songs are readily available on Napster and other music sites. File-sharing services like Napster have also been blamed for last year's 14.3% drop in sales of singles globally-and a whopping 46% in the U.S. Copying via the CD-R configuration was cited for a 1.3% decline in value of global sales of recorded music as a whole to $36.9 billion, and a 1.2% drop in unit sales to 3.5 billion. On the bright side, global CD sales were up 2.5% to 2.5 billion. To better deal with Napster-related matters and other issues like free agency for recording artists, work-for-hire provisions of the copyright law, and digital performance royalties, the Artists Against Piracy group is merging into the Recording Artist Coalition, which will establish an offices in Washington, D.C. and Los Angeles. The newly combined group will start out with 100 artists and will hire on a lobbyist in the nation's capital to represent artists' interests before Congress. Universal Music Group has bought out former partner BMG Entertainment's 50% share of online company GetMusic, and is combining it with Farmclub.com. Additionally, the "Farmclub.com" tv show on the USA Network has been axed, while the Farmclub label is being absorbed into UMG. These moves, along with UMG's intent to buy EMusic and its RollingStone.com and DownBeat.com content, give GetMusic a stronger position opposite MTVi's competing online music information and programming service. Finally, one of the year's unexpected success stories continues to get bigger. With hardly any airplay, the bluegrass-oriented soundtrack to Joel and Ethan Coen's brilliant movie "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" has gone platinum-and many of the featured artists are now set to tour behind it. Among the key participants are Alison Krauss & Union Station, Gillian Welch, and Ralph Stanley, who are slated to appear at a June 13 concert at Carnegie Hall in New York, with select dates to follow the rest of the year and a full tour to commence next year. A live album and documentary film (by legendary documentarian D.A. Pennebaker) of a concert of the soundtrack's music that took place last May at Nashville's historic Ryman Auditorium is also set for release. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: Texas Tea > Society as Barney Gumble. I am amused. and the rest of the cast of the simpsons..... yes that is it, america, the ugly! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:16:51 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: i get run over by the cars she used to drive the best one didn't happen to me, but to my room-mate and his girlfriend, who were struck by a jeep on the *sidewalk* outside our house. the driver struck a car on the opposite side of the street, bounced off it, came up on the sidewalk, hit, in order, fortunately for the humans, the brick retaining wall, a small sapling, then dorothy and dan, continued across the street to hit another car, bounced off of that car and back across the street, into the brick and another (somewhat larger tree) back into the road and *kept going.* (she was pulled over about a half-mile down the road by a police officer noting the very-recently-damaged appearance of her vehicle.) the woman's story was that she had been knocked unconscious by an alleged earlier collision with a second vehicle (which couldn't readily be proven or disproven, given the state of the jeep) so that it wasn't "hit and run" because she was unaware pedestrians had been involved. i took photographs of the impact site and skid marks, measured things and proved to my own satisfaction that was damned well conscious when she hit my friends, because she stomped on the accelerator pedal immediately afterwards, but, apparently, since i'm not a ballistics expert, i'm not allowed to submit logical conclusions. as far as i know (unless something unrelated has happened since) she's still licensed to drive. my own tally includes three car/bike collisions (including one which i was the at-fault party) one car door crash, one near-death experience with a car which didn't hit me, but which forced me to ditch at nearly 20 mph, and numerous instances in which i was either lightly bumped by a car as a pedestrian, or narrowly avoided same, in cases where the vehicle failed to yield to lawful pedestrian traffic. i came very close to getting in a fist fight after a recent incident, when the driver pulled into a 7-11 a block down the road and i confronted him. he said he had never seen me about a dozen times, as if he thought that was supposed to make everything okay. i have a crazy dc cab story too: a friend of mine had a cab driver pull a knife and slash her face, not, apparently, in an attempt to extort money or sex, but just for the sheer bloody hell of it. at some pre-hearing thing, the judge asked my friend if she had been intoxicated at the time. "yes," she said -- that was why she'd taken a cab in the first place. the judge sternly informed her that she had no business taking cabs when she was drunk. charges were dropped. - -- d. np fugazi _red medicine_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:23:15 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: Wanderlust > who will play Eb in the movie? tc: > Eb would say Judge Reinhold, but I think the surrealism of the script calls > for someone like... > > ...Klaus Nomi !!!! > http://server3004.freeyellow.com/klausnomi/ > > Except that he's dead. Klaus Nomi!! I remember seeing him singing operatic backup for Bowie on an old SNL once. Bizarro! The name "Klaus" reminded me of another who would be suited to (angrily) play Eb: KLAUS KINSKI http://dantenet.com/er/Kinski/k2quotes.html /hal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Wanderlust On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > Eb would say Judge Reinhold, but I think the surrealism of the script calls > for someone like... > > ...Klaus Nomi !!!! > http://server3004.freeyellow.com/klausnomi/ I concur wholeheartedly. > Except that he's dead. Shouldn't make that much difference. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:25:47 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: A step away from state-sponsored terrorism... Friday April 27 1:35 PM ET Chinese Hackers May Launch Anti-U.S. Cyber Attacks By Jim Wolf WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Chinese ``hackers'' have vandalized some U.S. Web sites and may lash out next week in a coordinated political protest, U.S. cyber police and computer security companies warned on Friday. ``Chinese hackers have publicly discussed increasing their activity'' from Monday through May 7, a period when significant dates are marked in China, the FBI-led National Infrastructure Protection Center, an interagency task force, said on its Web site late on Thursday. It urged system administrators to step up surveillance of Web pages and the computers that store and distribute e-mail. In addition, they should be on alert for so-called denial-of-service attacks, or attempts to swamp a site with more electronic traffic than it can handle. The advisory did not suggest the feared blitz was endorsed by Chinese authorities [I'm sure they came up with this all on their own...-ed]. Anti-virus software companies urged users to make sure they had updated programs to protect their computers. May 1 is International Workers' Day and China marks Youth Day on May 4. May 7 is the second anniversary of the bombing by a U.S. warplane of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, which NATO called a mistake but many Chinese said was intentional. Anger over the April 1 collision between a U.S. Navy reconnaissance plane and a Chinese fighter jet has already sparked a surge in vandalism of Web sites, the infrastructure protection center said. ``To date, hackers have unlawfully defaced a number of U.S. Web sites, replacing existing content with pro-Chinese or anti-U.S. rhetoric,'' it said in the advisory on http://www.nipc.gov/. ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) Friday or Saturday, what does that mean? Short space of time needs a heavy scene Monday is coming like a jail on wheels -The Clash ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: let's go ride a bike/so Jeme wasn't wearing underpants either???? On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, lj lindhurst wrote: > >One of the best days of my life occurred on the only day I ever rode my > >bike without underpants while wearing a skirt. Hmm. Hmmmmmm. > > > >Vivien > > Surely this is a good story....huh? huh??? Not really. It's involves all the predictable elements of a good day- sunny and hot, recently-requited love, asian supermarket, rescue by mysterious man on a motorcycle (not from asian supermarket but from broken-down car, which in a bizarre twist of fate did not destroy my mood), psychedelic mushrooms, bike-riding while on mushrooms, etc. etc. Plus, no panties. Whee. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:39:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: my most valuable contribution yet I ran over a squirrel, once. Thanks, Ebby np: GBV/Isolation Drills ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:46:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Wanderlust on 4/27/01 11:23 AM, HAL at hbrandt@milehigh.net wrote: > KLAUS KINSKI > http://dantenet.com/er/Kinski/k2quotes.html "I actually get venereal disease more often than most people catch colds." Wow, I knew Kinski was a dick, but these quotes really hammer it home, so to speak. Funny. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:37:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: A step away from state-sponsored terrorism... PERSONALLY, I think its all part of some political propagranda program, to make us dispise china, so that in the future when good ol' dubya wants to launch his attack on china he will get a majority of the public to support 'm( or at least he will have a faux poll that says so!) On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Thomas, Ferris wrote: > Friday April 27 1:35 PM ET > Chinese Hackers May Launch Anti-U.S. Cyber Attacks > > By Jim Wolf > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Chinese ``hackers'' have vandalized some U.S. Web > sites and may lash out next week in a coordinated political protest, U.S. > cyber police and computer security companies warned on Friday. > > ``Chinese hackers have publicly discussed increasing their activity'' from > Monday through May 7, a period when significant dates are marked in China, > the FBI-led National Infrastructure Protection Center, an interagency task > force, said on its Web site late on Thursday. > > It urged system administrators to step up surveillance of Web pages and the > computers that store and distribute e-mail. In addition, they should be on > alert for so-called denial-of-service attacks, or attempts to swamp a site > with more electronic traffic than it can handle. > > The advisory did not suggest the feared blitz was endorsed by Chinese > authorities [I'm sure they came up with this all on their own...-ed]. > Anti-virus software companies urged users to make sure they had updated > programs to protect their computers. > > May 1 is International Workers' Day and China marks Youth Day on May 4. May > 7 is the second anniversary of the bombing by a U.S. warplane of the Chinese > Embassy in Belgrade, which NATO called a mistake but many Chinese said was > intentional. > > Anger over the April 1 collision between a U.S. Navy reconnaissance plane > and a Chinese fighter jet has already sparked a surge in vandalism of Web > sites, the infrastructure protection center said. > > ``To date, hackers have unlawfully defaced a number of U.S. Web sites, > replacing existing content with pro-Chinese or anti-U.S. rhetoric,'' it said > in the advisory on http://www.nipc.gov/. > > ______________________________________ > Ferris Scott Thomas > programmer > > McGraw-Hill Education > 860.409.2612 > ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) > > Friday or Saturday, what does that mean? > Short space of time needs a heavy scene > Monday is coming like a jail on wheels > -The Clash > "THE CATS ARE HUNGRY...RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! Alone, only a harmless pet... One thousand strong, They become a man-eating machine!" - -ad for THE NIGHT OF A THOUSAND CATS, 1972. Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:53:13 -0700 From: "Renee Haggart" Subject: nomi memory >Klaus Nomi!! I remember seeing him singing operatic backup for Bowie on >an old SNL once. Bizarro! wow, I think I remember that! At one point Bowie was wearing what looked lika a little stewardess outfit and I think they sang TVC15.......? I also seem to remember Bowie (or Nomi?) being carried out on the stage in a sarcophagus or something... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:59:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Wanderlust >Wow, I knew Kinski was a dick, but these quotes really hammer it home, so to >speak. Funny. See Herzog's "My Best Fiend." A remarkable portrait. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:04:03 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: Wanderlust > > KLAUS KINSKI > > http://dantenet.com/er/Kinski/k2quotes.html > > "I actually get venereal disease more often than most people catch colds." > > Wow, I knew Kinski was a dick, but these quotes really hammer it home, so to > speak. Funny. You gotta see "My Best Fiend" sometime (check IFC). It's the documentary on Kinski directed by Werner Herzog (who also directed KK in the classic films Aguirre: Wrath Of God and Fitzcarraldo and the not-so-classic remake of Nosferatu). The clip at the beginning of the documentary taken from Kinski's infamous "Jesus Tour" is pure madness. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:08:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Nomi >>Klaus Nomi!! I remember seeing him singing operatic backup for Bowie on >>an old SNL once. Bizarro! wow, I think I remember that! At one point >Bowie was wearing what looked lika a little stewardess outfit and I think >they sang TVC15.......? I also seem to remember Bowie (or Nomi?) being >carried out on the stage in a sarcophagus or something... They sang "TVC15" and "The Man Who Sold the World." Nomi and the other singer carried in Bowie under the arms, as if he was a stiff, stand-up figure. He sang without ever moving his body. Then for the second song, he had a strangely flailing marionette body superimposed underneath his head, via camera magic. Difficult to explain, unless you actually saw it. I have these performances videotaped, somewhere. Classic. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:20:52 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Nomi Nomi was pretty interesting. And wasn't he one of the first documented musicians to die from AIDS? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:53:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Charles Gillett Subject: Blegvad's Leviathan book For those of you looking for it: I just got an e-mail from Downtown Music Gallery saying they have the Leviathan book in stock--$24. - -- Charles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:52:12 -0400 From: scary mary Subject: Re: Nomi At 12:08 PM 4/27/2001 -0700, Eb wrote: > >>Klaus Nomi!! I remember seeing him singing operatic backup for Bowie on > >>an old SNL once. Bizarro! wow, I think I remember that! At one point > >Bowie was wearing what looked lika a little stewardess outfit and I think > >they sang TVC15.......? I also seem to remember Bowie (or Nomi?) being > >carried out on the stage in a sarcophagus or something... > >They sang "TVC15" and "The Man Who Sold the World." > >Nomi and the other singer carried in Bowie under the arms, as if he was a >stiff, stand-up figure. He sang without ever moving his body. Then for the >second song, he had a strangely flailing marionette body superimposed >underneath his head, via camera magic. Difficult to explain, unless you >actually saw it. I have these performances videotaped, somewhere. Classic. > >Eb And wasn't there some cheapie furry robotic dogs (they had television screens for faces) on the stage shuffling around during TVC15? Or was that a different Bowie SNL appearance? s.mary np - coincidentally - David Bowie Scary Monsters ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:53:58 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: my most valuable contribution yet At 11:39 AM 4/27/01 -0700, Eb wrote: >I ran over a squirrel, once. I hit an owl once. Or it hit me. That was the largest thing to ever smack against my windshield. Startled me so much that I instinctively let go of the steering wheel and threw my hands in front of my face for protection. Luckily, I realized what I was doing very quickly. As a pedestrian, I've never been hit by a car, but I have been hit by a bicyclist - riding on a clearly marked "no bicycles or skateboards" path I might add. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:26:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bayard Catron Subject: it's a beautiful day "And by the... presentation of his beliefs, insofar as they're displayed... lead[s] me to believe he's self-righteous, vindictive and smug." boy, you're really askin' for it, arencha? ;) "oftentimes, the god speaks something pithy like "that'll show 'em"). That sure is consistent with the litigious folks I know." it's also consistent with the pre-New-Testament God, of course (B.C., remember?) "It sure was a beautiful day today..." sure was! sleep well. =b.c. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:21:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: cars vs bikes vs pedestrians (who will win?) On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 11:39 AM 4/27/01 -0700, Eb wrote: > As a pedestrian, I've never been hit by a car, but I have been hit by a > bicyclist - riding on a clearly marked "no bicycles or skateboards" path I > might add. Were you hurt badly? I saw a pedestrian get hit by a bike the other day- the fault was distributed equally, strange to say- and the pedestrian went flying, and the cyclist went flying. They both landed about ten feet away from their relative starting positions, got up, shouted at each other a little bit, and then walked away. Both seemed perfectly fine. If either of them had been hit by a car, though, I would have to predict that the damage done would have more serious than a fall and bit of shouting. I myself was hit by a car while riding a bike. I was blithely crossing an intersection, the light being green, when all of a sudden I was startled to find the broad side of a car in front of me. It grazed the front wheel of the bike, which knocked me down (but not off my bike) and gave me nasty scrape on my elbow and disgusting deep tissue bruises all down my legs. I was all set to yell at the guy, but he didn't speak english so I figured- why waste my anger on someone who won't understand me? I went and complained to the guys at Northwest Bikes instead. They were obligingly sympathetic. Vivien ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #163 ********************************