From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #141 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, April 22 2001 Volume 10 : Number 141 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Natty Dread ["Russ Reynolds" ] stay out of the sun! [steve ] Re: the movie madness madness [Tom Clark ] Kooks just keep getting harder to find [Eb ] Re: In Support of "My Mind is Connected" (Too!) ["Crazy Unca' Nick" ] re: In support of "mind is connected" ["Bob Kovar" ] brighton and hove albion v portsmouth ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Peter Buck arrested ["Rob" ] the cranial physiology of song [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] not just the size of a walnut? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] the soft boys circa 1976 or so [*twofangs / randi* ] Re: John Quaindy [Capuchin ] my mind is connected to Robyn's dreams ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: John Quaindy ["Aaron L." ] Game Will Be Start! [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:45:02 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Natty Dread Just finished my first listen to Rout Of The Clones (live 1978). What a great band they were, those Soft Boys! Noticed for the first time, in Rat's Prayer, the line "I Believe in Natty Dread". I don't recall ever hearing RH mention Marley when discussing his favorite artists, or ever having played any reggae sounding tunes. Can anyone point me to any other Hitchcock/Marley connection? James the D asked: > BTW - back to the "Deebees" pronunciation argument - is Eric "Eeebee" or "Ebb"? I'm going with "E flat" - -rUss "The Soft Boys faded away while giants like Spandau Ballet walked the earth--a warning to us all!" -- Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:15:50 -0500 From: steve Subject: stay out of the sun! http://www.newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999641 - - Steve __________ Is this thing on? Sent via OS X Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:16:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the movie madness madness on 4/20/01 5:24 PM, Stephen Mahoney at stephenm@multcolib.org wrote: > so I take it that there are no ( admitted) dvd owners out there? I've got a select few that I actually own: "Repo Man", "Spinal Tap", "Asian Anal Fantasies", etc.. You know, the classics. But I also subscribe to netflix (http://www.netflix.com), which is an online DVD rental service. They've got pretty much everything - and no late fees. For the record, I've got a Dolby Digital sound system and all my video is run over S-Video. There's no way I'll watch anything on VHS again. If I may toot my own horn a little further, I'm very excited that I just figured out how to rout my 802.11 wireless LAN over my internal 100 base-T network and out my DSL while connected through my employers 128-bit VPN. Woohoo!! Christ, I'm a geek, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:38:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Kooks just keep getting harder to find This pompous ass posts recurrent, self-glorifying garbage to various music newsgroups -- here's his latest hype. I'm sure at least *Eddie* will want to take advantage of this fantastic offer.;) Eb - ---- I can demonstrate on the telephone what my approach in singing technique can achieve in vocal range extension, power, flexibility, projection, and the most beautiful vocal timbre, natural and developable to the individual. In a vocal technique that can "place" every pitch visually, "virtual" pitch picturization, there is no such concept as high or low, and the sung pitches are precise in overtones and brilliant and exuberant, or ethereal, as the singer desires. Most singers do not have much freedom in their singing art. Their "interpretations" are not all that they could be because they are not capable of achieving what they may "hear' in their "mind-scope," my own teaching concept "lingo.." Hear what the critics have raved their hosannas about. "Trust, but verify," PRESIDENT REAGAN wisely admonished. Call me at (973) 335-0111 or (973) 541-1678 and let us talk and hear ME SING LIVE! You have nothing to lose but the cost of the phone call. Happy Holidays! Kenneth Bennett Lane, Wagnerian romantischer heldentenor ManHattan Bell Atlantic Yellow Pages, Page 1064 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:49:33 -0700 From: "Crazy Unca' Nick" Subject: Re: In Support of "My Mind is Connected" (Too!) Since I can't get this damn thing out of my head, let me add my 2c: > My Mind is Connected [...] > Bzp, bzp, bzp, bzp, bzpapa I'd write it: Zub, Zub, Zub, Zub, Zub-a-pa (Pedants might put an umlaut over the "u") [...] > And petals (?) ring in orbit > Merry day (?) Agreed [...] > Give me a part of rock n roll Definitely "POD"! [...] > For (From?) the Horn of Florida FROM [...] > And your skull is (?) memory Right That's enough. ~N ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:01:50 -0400 From: "Bob Kovar" Subject: Re: giving killers notoriety Doug wrote, in response to corrections on the names of the Columbine killers: >no shingle, sherlock. i think the rule ought to apply that i first heard >used for the little worm who ended the life of John Lennon -- don't give >them the notoriety, don't mythologize them, get their names wrong, forget >the pertinent details, give them no place in history as people -- just as >symptoms of a sickness. I can easily summon up intense hatred for the loser who killed Lennon, and it makes listening to his music painful to me. I wish I could empathize with him, but can't. I agree with forgetting his name and giving him no exposure whatsoever. Unfortunately, part of the same attraction I have for Robyn H and his ability to tap into madness yet stay sane also makes me fascinated by sick folks like Lennon's killer and the Columbine boys... Ahh well... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:02:28 -0400 From: "Bob Kovar" Subject: re: In support of "mind is connected" Ian wrote: >Does anyone know anything about the anatomy of the skull and the names given >to various parts? None of the names cited here are anatomical terms, other than the word "skull" itself, though your analysis of the song's meaning might be right anyway. The thalamus isn't, as far as we know, the crucial anatomical region involved in schizophrenia, though Robyn may not know that or may be using it metaphorically. I thought the reference to "the skull of Africa" and "the horn of Florida" was a reference to when the continents were merged into one large land mass, although I haven't necessarily thought through how this might relate to the rest of the lyrics. I'll throw that out for someone who has time to look at the lyrics more closely.... Bob (a lurker for six months, spurred to post, I guess, by kind Fegs who've made me some CDRs recently) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:18:04 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: brighton and hove albion v portsmouth Brighton Set-List Each Of Her Silver Wands Kingdom Of Love He's A Reptile Queen Of Eyes Old Pervert My Mind Is Connected To Your Dreams Only The Stones Remain I Wanna Destroy You Underwater Moonlight Evil Guy Leppo And The Jooves Insanely Jealous 1st encore Human Music Train Round The Bend Mr Kennedy 2nd encore Astronomy Domine Bells Of Rhymney Face Of Death Almost as good as Cambridge, but to my mind the set-list was a bit wonky - Opening with Siver Wands; the kitsch Reptile so soon after; and I've always thought that Evil Guy is a bit of a weak song. And is this the fewest number of UM tracks they've played on tour? Having said all that the power of certain stretches and the two superb encores more than made up for the weak points. And they played Leppo. Yippeee. Now if they'd only segue from Train Round the Bend into Mystery Train I'd be very happy indeed... Strange but true: I bumped into Matthew Seligman coming out of the Portsmouth v Fulham match just along the coast today. I sidled over to him and without a word showed him my Soft Boys ticket from the previous night. He was ecstatic! We had a fairly long chat about things. A word to the wise: I'm fairly confident there will be a new Soft Boys album... jmbc. Excellent review of the Cambridge gig in yesterday's Guardian. I don't know if it's on their web-site or not, i'll find the URL. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:43:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Toronto Gig Hello all! Since the Sabres game was so exciting for me (living in Buffalo) I had some time to convert my copy of the Toronto gig to cdr. it is on 2 cdrs, and I am thinking of filling in the rest of cdr 2 with the KCRW show. Anyone up for trading or want to set up a tree let me know. I know a few FEGS have sent me some off group requests for this show, please email me again and we can work somethings out. Point 2: Syd stuff that has been on here recently, I lost the link for the syd article, could someone send it to me? Thanks! Herbie NP - Radiohead "amnesiac" "spinning plates" Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:32:01 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Peter Buck arrested Peter Buck was arrested at Heathrow over an alleged 'air rage' incident. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/music/new sid_1290000/1290231.stm That should all be on one line of course. - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:45:38 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: the cranial physiology of song >Does anyone know anything about the anatomy of the skull and the names given >to various parts? > >There seems to be an analogy/metaphor between the skull/head/mind and a >plant/flower. > >This probably links up with thalamus and hypothalamus. > >Im not sure, but I think that problems with either the thalamus or the >hypothalamus have something to do with schizophrenia. > >In my diccie, a thalamus is also a receptacle for a flower. > >The word comes from the Latin, meaning inner chamber, originally from the >Greek thalamos. > >What is the significance of the number eleven? Does it relate to the number >of compartments in the brain or the number of petals on a flower or the cost >of a sandwich? > >The butler? The tennis court? The tray of diamonds? Rock nroll? hm. Well, if we're going into significance, the connection between a skull and a horn sounds vaguely, erm, oral to me. The 'underside' of the brain, perhaps, the diencephalon (i.e., the area including the thalamus and hypothalamus. Many of the structures implicated in sleep are alwso low in the brain, but don't know enough about this area to really comment on it. The amygdala's also down there - its name means almond, but I don't recall any part of this plant being poisonous... then again, isn't there a poison that's supposed to smell of almonds? From memory the skull might be formed from eleven plates, but gross anatomy isn't my area either, so that might be wrong. Your tennis court? Hmmm. I can think of a couple of possibilities, but maybe we're reading too much into this. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's written personal in-jokes and sly-winking-words into songs for the one and only person 'in the know'... or as Orson Welles once said: "Rosebud". James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:46:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: not just the size of a walnut? >A year ago a Listmember opined she thought I was probably "heavy-ish, >maybe with a goatee." David Thomas! >A week ago a Aaron told me that he thought I would be "heavy-set, >with a deep, rumbling voice." NOT David Thomas! >Why, oh why? Because I am not heavy, nor am I slender -- I am fairly >medium build. But I have this horrible idea that people think... > >think I'm.... > >Oh, God, can I say it? > >Like the comic-book guy on the Simpsons! > >Why, or Lord? Why? Tell me it isn't so~! Why would our mental image of you be plump, round, quail-shaped? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:15:54 -0400 From: *twofangs / randi* Subject: the soft boys circa 1976 or so Hello, If anyone s out there, and is really really really into the soft boys, I need to talk to you. I have some questions to ask - and I'm not sure where to find the answer. I'm trying to put together a history of Robyn - but I think the Soft Boys deserve their own "vh-1 - behind the music" kind of thing. I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to find the right songs to illustrate the SBs. I think it's 'cause some stuff was released after the band's demise ... and the band sort of 'de-volved' into Robyn solo rather than the band evolving; like you can hear the evolution of REM, imho. Anyone interested in talking / emailing let me know. I'll even give you a call - wouldn't mind talking to someone in person : ) fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:41:03 -0700 From: Traveling Riverside Blues Subject: Re: WankerLost At 5:44 PM -0400 4/20/01, fegmaniax-digest wrote: >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:26:35 -0500 (CDT) >From: GSS >Subject: Re: WankerLost > >Agreed......, > >The most interesting thing to me was the last part of the sentence, >"where die-hard hippies panhandle for change". I have only experienced >SF a few times but I took full advantage and didn't see a single hippie >anywhere near the corner of Haight and Ashbury, in the park or blocking >entrances to McDonald's. They're there, don't be fooled. Nowadays the hippies have mohawks and spiky leather jackets. (Although I feel compelled to point out that "Hippie Hill" in GG Park still gets unbearably freaky. I was walking in the park today, and some tourist asked for directions to Hippie Hill, giving me the opportunity to say, "Cross the street and follow the sound of the drums.") You guys wanna see some creative vandalism, check out . I love these guys. is really funny, too. OK, back on topic. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: John Quaindy On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > PPS: Kudos to Bayardo for remembering it's THREE WWII movies! I count four. Where am I going wrong? 1941, Empire of the Sun, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan. Which one's not Spielberg? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:14:51 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: my mind is connected to Robyn's dreams James wrote >The amygdala's also down there - its name means almond, but I don't recall >any part of this plant being poisonous... then again, isn't there a poison >that's supposed to smell of almonds? The opening sentence of Gabriel Garcia Marquez's novel Love In The Time Of Cholera makes reference to this. Cyanide (I think - I can't find my copy of the book at the mo') smells like 'bitter almonds' and for the character Marquez is talking of at the time - a doctor or policeman, again I may be wrong - the smell carries an association with suicide. At a stroke two further connections spring to mind - the 'poisonous plant' of the song lyric and Robyn's sex/death obsession (I believe both the hypothalamus and the amygdala have strong sexual functions). Just a couple of things that occurred to me on the Florida - Africa imagery. The 'horn' of Africa could be Greek cornucopia, the horn of plenty, which is also sometimes seen as a metaphorical vagina. Horn as penis *and* vagina, perhaps Robyn is saying that Florda should go fuck itself...;-) The skull symbolises death. Africa has been killed by the greed of America, and specifically Florida, the state with most millionaires per square yard, and yet with abject poverty only a couple of minutes walk away from any posh apartment. Diamonds are one of Africa's most famous exports - but do the indigenous people's see the profits? Of course not, that bleedin' butler nicks off with them to his capitalist masters on their swanky tennis court. Uber-coach Nick Bolletieri's famous tennis academy is in Florida, coincidence or what? Actually having talked to Matthew Seligman about Robyn's sports knowledge I'm sure he's never even heard of the orange-faced maestro. That doesn't gainsay the fact that tennis is generally, pace the Williams sisters, a game for the well-off. One further thing that America swiped from Africa. Rock'n'Roll, hence the 'pod', the seed. This chimes well with Robyn's slight ambivelance - qv Rock'n'Roll Toilet- to the medium in which he makes his living. jmbc 'With his tongue only halfway into his cheek' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:24:19 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: my mind is connected to Robyn's dreams >The opening sentence of Gabriel Garcia Marquez's novel Love In The Time Of >Cholera makes reference to this. Cyanide (I think - I can't find my copy of >the book at the mo') smells like 'bitter almonds' and for the character >Marquez is talking of at the time - a doctor or policeman, again I may be >wrong - the smell carries an association with suicide. If memory serves, a Peter Gabriel lyric from "Broadway Melody of 1974" (off The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway) goes "The cheerleader waves her cyanide wand/There's a smell of peach blossom and bitter almond." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:37:17 -0500 From: "Aaron L." Subject: Re: John Quaindy At 02:44 AM 4/22/2001, Capuchin wrote: >1941, Empire of the Sun, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan. >Which one's not Spielberg? >J. By golly, they ALL are. Nice neurons, Jeme. I hadn't a clue that Empire of the Sun was a Spielberg film, nor that it was set during WWII, but, the trusty IMDB tells me that it is, and ... that it is. I guess all those marathon trips to "Movie Madness" were not made in vain. Impressed, * C. Aaron Lowe mailto:aaron@hollowstreets.net http://aaron.hollowstreets.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:01:59 -0500 From: steve Subject: Game Will Be Start! www.battle-royale.com - - Steve __________ Is this thing on? Sent via OS X Mail. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #141 ********************************