From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #136 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, April 19 2001 Volume 10 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" [Larry Tucker ] Re: [Ebmaniax] Another doubleheader [lj lindhurst ] pee for profit ["Natalie Jacobs" ] Humanism ["Spring Cherry" ] RE: Cambridge Setlist [Larry Tucker ] Re: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" ["Kenneth Johnson" ] SV: fegmaniax-digest V10 #134 ["Orrling, August" ] PC magazine (!) [enzo ] Reality Checkers [dmw ] pulse o' my heart ["ross taylor" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:25:27 -0400 From: Larry Tucker Subject: RE: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" |-----Original Message----- |From: Ian Gray [mailto:iangray@powerup.com.au] |Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:03 PM |To: Fegmaniax@Smoe. Org |Subject: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" | | |Funny how a whole bunch of us can hear the same song (maybe different |versions) and have totally different reactions. | |Is this song really that wimpy? | |I was ecstatic when I first heard the Baltimore MP3. I loved the song as well, which doesn't happen often when hearing a new song for the first time live. I think it's my favorite of the batch of new ones and song which coulkd be a bit more accessible than Robyn's other stuff. That one and "Sideways" were highlights of the Baltimore show for me. I'll be curious to see in a studio version if they do the abrupt ending that was kinda cool. - --Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:48:47 EDT From: MPys2626@aol.com Subject: Cambridge Setlist Cambridge setlist A link to the actual (in Robyn's handwriting!) setlist from last evening's Cambridge show. Some insider's insight as accompaniment. Me mate is relatively new to the world of Robyn as we stand...lo...I sense a convert after last night though! I recieved the scan and the following from my buddy Rick this morning. m Hi Mark, Wanted to give you a more in depth review. It was quite a special show, because being from Cambridge they could relate a lot of stories to the audience about where certain songs were written, and about whom. I'll try to make some comments against the setlist for ya........ You'll Have To Go Sideways Sudden Town - - didn't know this one. Tonight Queen Of Eyes - - probably my second fave track so I appreciated them playing this one. Old Pervert - - Robyn said that this was written about a particular character that used to wander around Midsomer Common in Cambridge. He also said that if they hadn't moved away from Cambridge, this song may well have ended up being autobiographical, as he joked that he could have pictured himself following the same path when he got older if he hadn't !! Mind is Connected - - didn't know this one Airscape - - or this one Kingdom Of Love - - Robyn said this was written about another Cambridge character called Harold, who used to wander around the streets in a cloak that he had made himself out of old curtains. He asked the audience whether any of the older ones remembered him and some shouted out that they did. When he asked if he was still around, someone said that he'd died a couple of years ago. The Face Of Death - - about another Cambridge character called Arthur who used to walk down the streets near where they lived and practised. Also commented that both Arthur and Harold would be seen at times wandering the same streets, but never really acknowledging each other's existence. You'll see from the setlist I sent you that this was supposed to be followed by Leppo and the Jooves, but unfortunately for me they changed their minds and left it out. Human Music - - Robyn said this was written on a Sunday in January in 1978. I Wanna Destroy You - - Robin commented that this was written around the time Reagan was being sworn in as president, and ironically it's being played again just as Bush has become US president. Underwater Moonlight Insanely Jealous Encore #1 Astronomy Domine - - When they returned to the stage, Robyn asked the audience whether anybody had seen Roger (ie. Syd - another Cambridge boy) Barret. After they finished the song, he said that they hadn't seen him either. Rock 'N' Roll Toilet - - This was written in the Portland Arms, in Cambridge. This is a local pub where they still put on gigs for new bands to play. Mr. Kennedy - - didn't know this one Encore #2 Devil Mask - - didn't know this one Train Round The Bend (VU cover from Loaded album) - - Robyn said that over the 1979 New Year they spent a few weeks near Mount Snowdon in North Wales, and so they missed their usual New Year Celebrations in Cambridge. During this spell they would practise in a small scout hut, and he recalls they used to play this Velvet Underground song quite a lot. Only The Stones Remain Sleep Well ~ Don't Burst http://mapslegends.net/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:00:00 -0500 From: Sam Adams Subject: Re: David Thomas The trumpter guy used to play with James, I believe. I don't have my CDs with me here, but I know one of the 2PBs is Keith Molini and the other I think is Andy something. The red BBQ apron David was wearing is presumably the thing he wore on the last Pere Ubu. The only explanation I have for it is that it does have a flat table-type mike strapped to the front right below his head, so when he's singing into a standing mike he's actually being miked twice. I think one of them had some kind of distortion effect on it or something. I'm sure DT has either a 7000 word reason or a two-word response for why he wears the darn thing. Sam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:10:57 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Another doubleheader >Surprise, surprise...I got to the Viper Room before MacGowan started. This is not really that surprising! The two times I've seen Shane McGowan, he's been verging on somewhere between 1.5 and two hours late. This allows time for the extra rowdy audience to get all worked up into a alcohol-fueled frenzy. In fact, I can't actually say I've "seen" him two times because the second time we waited so long that I finally just said fuck this, and left... TGQ did stay... his report to me when he got home was, "You would have hated it." I'll let him fill in the remaining details from that night... >I did see one >familiar fan whom I always see at Hitchcock shows, but I'm not sure if he's >part of the Feglist gang or not. Kinda plump, half-bald, glasses, mustache >and beard? Anyway.... That was ME!!! lj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:54:31 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: pee for profit >The HeLa cell cultures >survived and multiplied so well in culture, that they were soon being >shipped to research labs around the world for study. This and the other story about the guy with cancer remind me of something I read in Jessica Mitford's "The American Way of Birth." This took place in the 40's. Mitford was pregnant and was seeing an obstetrician on a regular basis. At each visit, he would take a urine sample and charge her for a urinalysis. But in fact, he was selling the urine samples - at a profit - to wealthy women convinced that injections of a pregnant woman's urine would prevent aging. Mitford found out about this and sensibly sought other medical care. (Mitford's book, by the way, is extremely fascinating, neatly detailing how childbirth in our society came to be considered a dangerous pathological process requiring a doctor's intervention. The profit motive, once again, is highly implicated.) n., committed to the safe removal of babies from evil sucking voids p.s. Speaking of voids, the Sim parody is hilarious! I'd like to send Sim a placenta in the mail. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:01:19 -0000 From: "Spring Cherry" Subject: Humanism Matt on HeLa cells: >(Besides - no one ever ASKED Henrietta, or her family, if it was OK >to do >this.) You know, its that more than the money that gets to me. If Drs want to use your organs after death for medical purposes dont they need to get your or your heirs' permission? What bothers me is that using cells without permission turns a human being into an object, a thing. (Im such a bloody humanist;-) Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:10:32 -0400 From: Larry Tucker Subject: RE: Cambridge Setlist OH GAWD! I would have loved to have seen this show. PLEASE tell me someone recorded this! Nice comments from someone who wasn't even a Robyn fan, so let's hear it from the UK Fegz. - -Larry |-----Original Message----- |From: MPys2626@aol.com [mailto:MPys2626@aol.com] |Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:49 AM |To: fegmaniax@smoe.org |Subject: Cambridge Setlist | | |Cambridge setlist | |A link to the actual (in Robyn's handwriting!) setlist from |last evening's |Cambridge show. Some insider's insight as accompaniment. Me mate is |relatively new to the world of Robyn as we stand...lo...I |sense a convert |after last night though! | |I recieved the scan and the following from my buddy Rick this |morning. | | m | |Hi Mark, | |Wanted to give you a more in depth review. It was quite a |special show, |because being from Cambridge they could relate a lot of stories to the |audience about where certain songs were written, and about |whom. I'll try to |make some comments against the setlist for ya........ | |You'll Have To Go Sideways | |Sudden Town |- didn't know this one. | |Tonight | |Queen Of Eyes |- probably my second fave track so I appreciated them playing |this one. | |Old Pervert |- Robyn said that this was written about a particular |character that used to |wander around Midsomer Common in Cambridge. He also said that |if they hadn't |moved away from Cambridge, this song may well have ended up being |autobiographical, as he joked that he could have pictured |himself following |the same path when he got older if he hadn't !! | |Mind is Connected |- didn't know this one | |Airscape |- or this one | |Kingdom Of Love |- Robyn said this was written about another Cambridge character called |Harold, who used to wander around the streets in a cloak that |he had made |himself out of old curtains. He asked the audience whether any |of the older |ones remembered him and some shouted out that they did. When |he asked if he |was still around, someone said that he'd died a couple of years ago. | |The Face Of Death |- about another Cambridge character called Arthur who used to |walk down the |streets near where they lived and practised. Also commented |that both Arthur |and Harold would be seen at times wandering the same streets, |but never |really acknowledging each other's existence. |You'll see from the setlist I sent you that this was supposed |to be followed |by Leppo and the Jooves, but unfortunately for me they changed |their minds |and left it out. | |Human Music |- Robyn said this was written on a Sunday in January in 1978. | |I Wanna Destroy You |- Robin commented that this was written around the time Reagan |was being |sworn in as president, and ironically it's being played again |just as Bush |has become US president. | |Underwater Moonlight | |Insanely Jealous | |Encore #1 | |Astronomy Domine |- When they returned to the stage, Robyn asked the audience |whether anybody |had seen Roger (ie. Syd - another Cambridge boy) Barret. After |they finished |the song, he said that they hadn't seen him either. | |Rock 'N' Roll Toilet |- This was written in the Portland Arms, in Cambridge. This is |a local pub |where they still put on gigs for new bands to play. | |Mr. Kennedy |- didn't know this one | |Encore #2 | |Devil Mask |- didn't know this one | |Train Round The Bend (VU cover from Loaded album) |- Robyn said that over the 1979 New Year they spent a few |weeks near Mount |Snowdon in North Wales, and so they missed their usual New |Year Celebrations |in Cambridge. During this spell they would practise in a small |scout hut, and |he recalls they used to play this Velvet Underground song quite a lot. | |Only The Stones Remain | |Sleep Well ~ Don't Burst | |http://mapslegends.net/index.html | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:12:35 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" I think that Pulse may be my favorite of the new "Soft" tunes even though I only heard it as an mp3. The Boys did not, unfortunately, play it at the Portland gig. The Lizard jewel can sort of make up for the absence of Astronomy Domine, Airscape (possibly my fave Hitchcock tune ever, period), and Pulse. I am not sure I can forgive Robyn for giving me whatever coughing sickness he was spraying all over the front rows that night, however. It made my final dress rehearsal week painful. I am glad to finally be rid of that dreaded hack in time for opening. ON Portland Pubs and Vids: The Horse's -ass is quaint in a great uncle's rumpus room in the basement sort of way. It is far too crowded and carbuncular to reflect the true home(l)y charm of a real English Pub. It has the draught and alcohol selection that far surpasses a pub I've ever been to in jolly old England. What it lacks in authenticity, it makes up convenience and accessibility. So it is an American Pub (with Anglophile artifacts). I have not yet visited the Moon & Sixpence, but I hear it is close to the real deal as far as recreating a true English pub. Yeah Movie Madness is the tops! They have just about every video known to exist.(ok ok I do exaggerate) I go there anytime I can't find what I'm looking for at my library. Why pay to rent something for three nights, when the library will let me have it for three weeks for free, beyond whatever portion of my taxes, if any, go to support it? Kenneth, the invisible Portland Feg >From: "Ian Gray" >Reply-To: "Ian Gray" >To: "Fegmaniax@Smoe. Org" >Subject: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:02:48 +1000 > >Funny how a whole bunch of us can hear the same song (maybe different >versions) and have totally different reactions. > >Is this song really that wimpy? > >I was ecstatic when I first heard the Baltimore MP3. I even did a bit of >research and wrote down the lyrics. Here they are, if anyones interested: > > >You can set your watch by me >I'm a regular guy >I get up and then I walk away >But in the pulse of my heart >I'm coming for you > >Your parachute has never billowed open >You are stuffed in a pillow >You're hoping that gets out, my boy (You're hoping to get out, >my boy?) >But in the pulse of my heart >I'm coming for you. > >But in the pulse of my heart >I'm coming for you. > >Her wings are folded in her chrysalis >But you can wake her in an all night kiss >But in the pulse of her heart >She's waking for you (She's waiting for you?) > >But in the pulse of her heart >She's waking for you > >Alright, alright > >You can set the clock back, so can I >I can tell the future from the sky >You can tell what time it is >By looking yourself in the eye > >But in the pulse of her heart >Here's looking at you (He's looking at you?) >In the pulse of my heart >And you know that it's you. > > >I think this is a ripper of a song, possibly one of the best he's ever >done. >You know, it should be a top 40 hit and he should be a star, you've heard >it >all before stuff. > >The music on the Baltimore version (though not so much the Irving Plaza >version) is stunning Velvet Underground Live 1969 vintage. It's an instant >classic. > >One thing about the lyrics. It might just be his memory playing up on him, >but I can't tell whether there are two people or three people (or two >people >and time/fate/God). Is Robyn God or a lover? (Good thread question, that >one!) But that just makes it more interesting! Any thoughts? > >Let's see what this chrysalis of a song morphs into. > >Hope you (all) grow to love it as much as I do. But dont stomp it out, >just >because its not your taste! > >Inkypop _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:25:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: DC event what: HEAVY METAL! "Eat the People: Rock 'n' Roll Consumers and the New Folk" a lecture by Aaron Mulvany, heavy metal scholar and enthusiast "Rock 'n' roll, and especially its heavy metal sub-genres, has been described by numerous scholars and critics as a new folk music or, at the very least, folk-like in its general blue-colar appeal. But is this a realistic analysis? Can we categorize an esentially commercial genre as 'folk'"? when: Mon., Apr. 23, 6:00 pm where: room 202, Gelman Library, George Washington University 2130 H St. NW, Washington DC (tell person at front desk that you're there for the lecture) See you there! - --Chris now downloading: Iron Maiden ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:35:33 +0200 From: "Orrling, August" Subject: SV: fegmaniax-digest V10 #134 Hi, I have to agree that this is a very good song. Robyn Played it in Gothenburgh and that was one of the highlights the first evening (day two was better overall). But where can I find this mp3? I must have missed it. Thanks, August >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:02:48 +1000 >From: "Ian Gray" >Subject: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" > >Funny how a whole bunch of us can hear the same song (maybe different >versions) and have totally different reactions. > >Is this song really that wimpy? > >I was ecstatic when I first heard the Baltimore MP3. I even did a bit of >research and wrote down the lyrics. Here they are, if anyones interested: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:49:11 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: SV: fegmaniax-digest V10 #134 the mp3 along with others from the tour is available on the underwatermoonlight.com website K >From: "Orrling, August" >Reply-To: "Orrling, August" >To: >Subject: SV: fegmaniax-digest V10 #134 >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:35:33 +0200 > >Hi, > >I have to agree that this is a very good song. Robyn Played it in >Gothenburgh and that was one of the highlights the first evening (day two >was better overall). But where can I find this mp3? I must have missed it. > >Thanks, >August > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:02:48 +1000 > >From: "Ian Gray" > >Subject: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" > > > >Funny how a whole bunch of us can hear the same song (maybe different > >versions) and have totally different reactions. > > > >Is this song really that wimpy? > > > >I was ecstatic when I first heard the Baltimore MP3. I even did a bit of > >research and wrote down the lyrics. Here they are, if anyones >interested: _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mahoney Subject: Re: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Kenneth Johnson wrote: > exist.(ok ok I do exaggerate) I go there anytime I can't find what I'm > looking for at my library. Why pay to rent something for three nights, when > the library will let me have it for three weeks for free, beyond whatever > portion of my taxes, if any, go to support it? I believe we charge 70 bucks for those outside the tri county area, and those other areas that have a recipical agreement with us. I think the 70 dollar charge is related to property taxes, but I am not sure. if there are no holds on that video you can renew it over and over again (99 times to be exact) along with all your favorite books until someone discovers it in the computer database and places that hold on it..... there is also interlibrary loans( other states public and university libs own some really cool stuff!) - -still owned by cats > > Kenneth, the invisible Portland Feg > > > >From: "Ian Gray" > >Reply-To: "Ian Gray" > >To: "Fegmaniax@Smoe. Org" > >Subject: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:02:48 +1000 > > > >Funny how a whole bunch of us can hear the same song (maybe different > >versions) and have totally different reactions. > > > >Is this song really that wimpy? > > > >I was ecstatic when I first heard the Baltimore MP3. I even did a bit of > >research and wrote down the lyrics. Here they are, if anyones interested: > > > > > >You can set your watch by me > >I'm a regular guy > >I get up and then I walk away > >But in the pulse of my heart > >I'm coming for you > > > >Your parachute has never billowed open > >You are stuffed in a pillow > >You're hoping that gets out, my boy (You're hoping to get out, > >my boy?) > >But in the pulse of my heart > >I'm coming for you. > > > >But in the pulse of my heart > >I'm coming for you. > > > >Her wings are folded in her chrysalis > >But you can wake her in an all night kiss > >But in the pulse of her heart > >She's waking for you (She's waiting for you?) > > > >But in the pulse of her heart > >She's waking for you > > > >Alright, alright > > > >You can set the clock back, so can I > >I can tell the future from the sky > >You can tell what time it is > >By looking yourself in the eye > > > >But in the pulse of her heart > >Here's looking at you (He's looking at you?) > >In the pulse of my heart > >And you know that it's you. > > > > > >I think this is a ripper of a song, possibly one of the best he's ever > >done. > >You know, it should be a top 40 hit and he should be a star, you've heard > >it > >all before stuff. > > > >The music on the Baltimore version (though not so much the Irving Plaza > >version) is stunning Velvet Underground Live 1969 vintage. It's an instant > >classic. > > > >One thing about the lyrics. It might just be his memory playing up on him, > >but I can't tell whether there are two people or three people (or two > >people > >and time/fate/God). Is Robyn God or a lover? (Good thread question, that > >one!) But that just makes it more interesting! Any thoughts? > > > >Let's see what this chrysalis of a song morphs into. > > > >Hope you (all) grow to love it as much as I do. But dont stomp it out, > >just > >because its not your taste! > > > >Inkypop > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > the average person eats about three pounds of food a day, 1095 pounds per year. by the time you blow out the candles on your 70th birthday cake, you will have eaten 33 tons of food, or a pile about the size of six elephants. Your total waste exiting from a certain orifice will amount to the size of a car! - -"the encyclopedia of everything nasty" Stephen Mahoney Multnomah County Library at Rockwood branch clerk stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us 503-988-5396 fax 503-988-5178 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:31:12 -0400 From: enzo Subject: Re: In Defence of "Pulse of My Heart" i'm kind of in the unimpressed camp when it comes to "pulse of my heart". it's alright but it doesn't wow me. i think i amused matthew seligamn after the boston show when i asked him if kimberley had written it. he grinned and said something to the effect of "robyn has a pretty pop side to him too!" woj n.p. nasa tv t-20 minutes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:39:10 -0400 From: enzo Subject: PC magazine (!) >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:35:49 -0400 >To: woj@smoe.org >From: Jeff Rosedale >Subject: PC magazine (!) > >Robyn's picture and a portion of his bio appears on page 130 of the May 8 >issue of PC Magazine, as part of a screen shot of Windows Media Player 8 >(bundled witn Win XP). Talk about the unexpected! > >Thought you'd be amused to know. > >Regards, > >--jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:31:05 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Reality Checkers On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Spring Cherry wrote: > Reality, reality calling for Susan, is Susan home? She is, good. Please put > her on the line. > Susan, you are incapable of being boring. Reality over and out. ...Kay impersonating reality!? ...now I really *have* seen everything. I hope that was a joke about livia being in custody (?) -- I always enjoyed corresponding with her. That alien-skull-rape thing was memorably stomach-turning, and I don't think there's any thing strange, let alone inexplicable, about it provoking some very strong reactions. That's certainly the only time I've ever stumbled across such a vile thing unawares -- if, for example, that had been posted to alt.sex.stories, I would have expected it to have about two screenfuls of disclaimers. (If you're me, you quickly learn not to read anything there that has two screenfuls of disclaimers, but, anyway.) Maybe we could take up a collection to buy Eb some sensitivity training? and, uh, me, while we're at it. Or you could just take up a collection to buy sensitivity for Eb and beer for me, hell, I don't care. - -- d. np E. Presley - Complete 50's Sessions, vol I. (goodgawdam, so this is what all the fuss was about, huh?) - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:35:32 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: pulse o' my heart >From: "Ian Gray" You can set your watch by me I'm a regular guy I get up and then I walk away But in the pulse of my heart I'm coming for you Your parachute has never billowed open You are stuffed in a pillow You're hoping that gets out, my boy (You're hoping to get out, my boy?) But in the pulse of my heart I'm coming for you. But in the pulse of my heart I'm coming for you. Her wings are folded in her chrysalis But you can wake her in an all night kiss But in the pulse of her heart She's waking for you (She's waiting for you?) But in the pulse of her heart She's waking for you Alright, alright You can set the clock back, so can I I can tell the future from the sky You can tell what time it is By looking yourself in the eye But in the pulse of her heart Here's looking at you (He's looking at you?) In the pulse of my heart And you know that it's you. I enjoyed seeing these words because I haven't heard the song (or if I heard it in DC, I have no memory of it). W/ songs as good as Robyn's, it's fun to see the lyrics when you have no idea what the music is like. He's often really regular w/ his meter, even if, as here, it's pretty far from standard ballad meter. Unlike Bob stretch-n-cram-syllables Dylan. Robyn-as-god here sounds likely to me, tho at first I thought it was Robyn-as-death w/ a big dose of irony. Not that I think Robyn can always be literally parsed. Some metrics-- "YOU can SET your WATCH by ME" - --it's clock-regular & so makes him sound like a force of fate, but "I'M a REG u lar GUY" - --because it has an extra syllable in "regular," sounds more like speech, like what an *ordinary* guy might say. Tho this could be the banality of death/fate. Of course the music may throw this off, but I bet it doesn't. Anyhow, leaving off the metrics-- "I get up and then I walk away" - --sounds pretty ordinary. But he leaves, yet at the same time he's "coming for you." Is this some kind of "high fidelity?" Is he like the shadow of death that comes & goes & "we know neither the day nor the hour ..."? Having such an insistant pulse makes him sound more like the "spirit of the universe" or some such than like fate or death. But since the Boy in the Pillow (BIP) and the Girl in the Chrysalis (GIC) seem to love each other and he he doesn't mind, he seems at least like no ordinary lover. The fuzzy last verse complicates this. The BIP's unopened parachute and the GIC's potential wings are fascinating. Was the unopened parachute a failure to fly, or to fall? Is the BIP in a pillow for protection? In the 3rd verse it seems like the short line that's "I'm a regular guy" / "you're stuffed in a pillow" in the previous two verses is left out. "you can set the clock back, so can I" - --this verse seems like they both have memory but "I" know the future while "you" know yourself ... or am I predjudiced to making "I" sound immortal & "you" human? The last verse is kinda fuzzy. But then so are these comments. Look forward to hearing it. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #136 ********************************