From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #120 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, April 12 2001 Volume 10 : Number 120 Today's Subjects: ----------------- if you were in my movie... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: _Dave Joins Roger and Then Leaves Himself_ [Chris Dumm ] Re: seligman's band [toast@indy.net] Re: p.s. we're making a record [David Librik ] Re: seligman's band ["brian nupp" ] This little gem came in with the heading "And You Thought David Hasselhoff Was Bad..." [steve howard ] Re: p.s. we're making a record ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Soft Boys/Hollywood [Bayard ] Re: _Dave Joins Roger and Then Leaves Himself_ [Bayard ] Re: a concern.... [JH3 ] Re: hair, hair, hair/ reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] algebra of darkness, element of light [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Digna] Largo, 4/11/2001 [Marc ] Re: in pursuit of the truth about the hirsute [John McIntyre ] for those of us without [scary mary ] Re: those crazy feg-heads [Bayard ] Re: feg-casting-call ["Renee Haggart" ] RE: those crazy feg-heads ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: those crazy feg-heads [Tom Clark ] Liz Phair got the Hots! [dmw ] Homeric Lobsters with Tweezers ["Spring Cherry" Also I suggest Cate Blanchett for Viv. And I don't know if Liz Phair > has done any acting, but she does look strikingly like Carole > Reichstein. Objections? hm. Oddly my partner Alice was once mistaken for Cate B (strange, since she's considerably shorter that CB, but there is a definite facial resemblance). Me? I suppose Mark Gloster could play me (and vice versa). Sadly, I'm starting to look like Kevin Spacey in a long wig James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Dumm Subject: Re: _Dave Joins Roger and Then Leaves Himself_ Is that the picture with Richard, Roger, Nick, and David in a 2 above 2 stance with Syd lurking behind them? - -Chris D - --- Michael R Godwin wrote: > > > Glen mentioned _Dave Joins Roger and Then Leaves > Himself_ in his Fillmore > > > account -- is this the first working title we've > heard for the SB's > > > potential upcoming rekkid? > > On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Bayard wrote: > > the first thing i thought was pink floyd, but of > course it doesn't > > follow... > > But if it was "Dave joins Roger, _who_ then leaves > himself" it would be > spot on (Syd Barrett's real name is Roger Keith > Barrett). For a very short > time after Gilmour joined in early '68, Barrett was > still a group member - > there is one photo featuring the 5-member Floyd. > > - MRG Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:21:34 -0400 From: Ed Poole Subject: p.s. we're making a record Everybody's read this, right? http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/ps.html Yeah yeah yeah ... yeah. New Soft Boys studio album! Bayard -- you said I'd get a cance to see them again; now, I'm holding you to that. - -ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:50:13 -0500 From: toast@indy.net Subject: Re: seligman's band At 11:47 PM 4/11/01 -0000, Melissa Higuchi wrote: >Help! I'm blanking on the name of Matthew Seligman's band name Snail ... >and the cd title. _Psychodelicate_. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:03:16 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: p.s. we're making a record Ed Poole wrote: > Everybody's read this, right? > http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/ps.html > > Yeah yeah yeah ... yeah. New Soft Boys studio album! Um. I wonder what other people think about this. Is it a good idea? As EB has pointed out, there's been a pretty uniform slant to the press coverage: "obscure genius band of the past made one brilliant record and split up at the height of their talent," with the more or less implied corollary, "nothing these men have ever done since is anywhere near as good." What is going to be the critical reaction to a "new Soft Boys album" that -- if the songs we've heard are any indication -- sounds rather like _Moss Elixir_ and _Jewels For Sophia_? - - David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:30:39 -0400 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: seligman's band Band Name: Snail Album: Psychodelicate Rating: Thumbs Up! Nuppster >From: Melissa Higuchi >Reply-To: Melissa Higuchi >To: Where are the cows >Subject: seligman's band >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:47:04 -0000 > >Help! I'm blanking on the name of Matthew Seligman's band name and the cd >title. I know it was in a recent post but I can't find it. > >Thanks >Mel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:20:14 -0700 From: steve howard Subject: This little gem came in with the heading "And You Thought David Hasselhoff Was Bad..." http://www.launch.com/music/content/1%2C%2C190045_nocache%2C00.html Also adding my, hooray, I saw the Fillmore concert, and it was fucking great! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:51:02 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: p.s. we're making a record On Wednesday, April 11, 2001, at 10:03 PM, David Librik wrote: > What is going to be the critical reaction to a "new Soft Boys album" > that -- if the songs we've heard are any indication -- sounds rather > like _Moss Elixir_ and _Jewels For Sophia_? Who cares? I'll buy it. - - Steve __________ Is this thing on? Sent via OS X Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:08:25 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: p.s. we're making a record What is going to be the critical reaction to a "new Soft Boys album" that -- if the songs we've heard are any indication -- sounds rather like _Moss Elixir_ and _Jewels For Sophia_? Hey, I like Jewels(I admit Moss is another story) Max >From: steve >Reply-To: steve >To: Fegmaniax >Subject: Re: p.s. we're making a record >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:51:02 -0500 > >On Wednesday, April 11, 2001, at 10:03 PM, David Librik wrote: > >>> >Who cares? I'll buy it. > > >- Steve > >__________ >Is this thing on? >Sent via OS X Mail. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:17:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Soft Boys/Hollywood > And Rew's contribution is sorta *necessarily* unusual, since he's the > only "lead guitar"-style player Robyn has ever used. (Uhh...isn't he?) "Wang-bo" Davies played lead guitar in the soft boys until march of '77, i believe (Kimberley replaced him). And of course robyn surely played with other lead guitar players before he joined dennis and the experts, but he didn't "use" them. It's funny... at some shows the YFF joked, "it's not the real soft boys... it's not the original drummer!", But morris is actually the *only* one who was in the original lineup (and had always been present.) > Have a look at http://www.bbcamerica.com/programs/gormenghast.html. I > think the resemblance has been noted here before. ... but can he sing? Thanks for the rundown, ebbo, hope the mucous doesn't rear its ugly head... =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: _Dave Joins Roger and Then Leaves Himself_ > But if it was "Dave joins Roger, _who_ then leaves himself" it would be > spot on (Syd Barrett's real name is Roger Keith Barrett). For a very short > time after Gilmour joined in early '68, Barrett was still a group member - > there is one photo featuring the 5-member Floyd. my dear godwin, i believe you've sussed it - the "and" is a decoy, it's "Dave Joins, Roger then Leaves Himself". Meaning, loses his mind. Erm, unless someone is called Then... =b "and she's waiting for Them in the hall" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:00:38 -0700 From: Peter Palmer Subject: KCRW and Knitting Factory for trade. There were at least 4 DATs at the Knitting Factory last night. We were all a little worried about the sound quality, but I stood right behind the soundboard and everything came out great. The KCRW show is an FM broadcast. Anyone who wants to trade just drop me an e-mail. I've got a couple more shows on my list below. http://home.netcom.com/~plpalmer I've burned the 4-10-01 LA show to disc. Disc One Intro by Gary Calamar Kingdom Of Love Pulse Of My Heart Tonight Old Pervert My Mind Is Connected To Your Dreams Insanely Jealous Human Music Leppo And The Jooves Bells Of Rhymney I Wanna Destroy You Only The Stones Remain Sudden Town Underwater Moonlight Disc Two ENCORE #1 Band Intros Astronomy Domine Rock 'n' Roll Toilet Mr. Kennedy ENCORE #2 You'll Have To Go Sideways I Got The Hots For You Queen Of Eyes Give It To The Soft Boys ENCORE #3 Where Are The Prawns? The Face Of Death BONUS TRACKS Ray Of Sunshine(Kimberly with the Young Fresh Fellows) A Day In The Life(The Young Fresh Fellows with Grant Lee Phillips on guitar Also available on Disc KCRW 4-09-01 Intro Kingdom Of Love Old Pervert My Mind Is Connected To Your Dreams I Wanna Destroy You Sudden Town Underwater Moonlight The Face Of Death Pulse Of My Heart Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:51:14 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Casting issues I don't mean to pour cold water over anybody's dreams of Hollywood immortality, but you should all be ashamed of yourselves! To think that so MANY of you would stoop so low as to allow yourselves to be portrayed in any way whatsoever in such a crass entertainment as a major motion picture! And as for yours truly, anybody who tries to create ANY sort of fictionalized version of me for commercial gain is going to have a nice long conversation with my team of high-priced lawyers! (Possibly over dinner -- Monday night at Morton's? Let me just check my Palm Pilot...) Furthermore, I don't look a *bit* like Eric Idle! I don't even have the same accent! John "ye great la-de-da poofta" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:15:22 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: a concern.... From: Stephen Mahoney : >Sean "Puffy" Combs needs your help! >seems that after his "run-ins" with the law the Puff-meister >needs a new handle >perhaps the creative group of Feggies could come up with something >"fresh" and "fly"... Sorry, we don't do "fresh 'n' fly" here! "Flesh 'n' flies," perhaps... Anyway, I think he should start calling himself "Walter," as in Sean "Walter" Combs. (Maybe he could do a cover of that Ben Folds Five song... he's a musician, right?) Better yet - Sean "Plastic Hair" Combs! But somebody else probably thought of that already. John "Huffy" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:43:42 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: hair, hair, hair/ reap >> Because it's OK for guys to be hairy, but not women. A fact that I curse >> every time I cut my legs while shaving. I'm not sure where this >> double-standard arose from. I seem to recall reading that Gillette or some >> other razor company started convincing women back in the '20's that shaving >> was more sanitary (or something), but I may be wrong. > >It's simple exaggeration of secondary sexual characteristics. Women have >less body hair than men, therefore the less body hair you have, the more >feminine you seem. no-one's ever explained to me what's wrong with women with small amounts of body-hair. Why do women bother shaving their legs or armpits? Ain't nothing wrong with a little hair... >No, I think it definitely has something to do with the Y chromosome >here. >Men, in our culture, are expected to be plainer, simpler (read: >more >boring) in their attire than women. this might explain why, if a man wants plain, thin socks, he usually has a wide choice of colours available to him: black, grey, dark brown, dark blue. I asked a shop assistant recently for some orange socks, and judging by the expression on her face you would have thought I'd made an indecent suggestion to her. RIP 1, Sir Harry Secombe. Goon but not forgotten. RIP 2, Nyree Dawn Porter - the first NZ actress to become well known overseas. James (whose taste in clothes is only mildly eccentric really) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:55:54 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: algebra of darkness, element of light >Subject: Attn Eurofegs: Northern lights display on right now? > >I should have thought of this a couple of hours ago, >but any of you who are in darkness might want to >look out your window. Solar particle measurements >(Kp index) were up to 8 out of a possible 9 recently, >and they were 6 at last measurement. damn. and it's cloudy here (and the storm up to an 8). The Kp index goes up to 10++ BTW - it was at 10 a couple of weeks back when we had pink and green right up to the zenith. Daing but it was a beauty - the best AAus view I've ever seen. Those wishing to keep track of when a display is likely should regularly check James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:26:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Subject: Largo, 4/11/2001 Okay, a very quick summary before I drive back to Phoenix so I can work in the morning... WOW! Okay, here's a bit of detail: After warm up comedian... Robyn played: Are You Experienced? (Jimi Hendrix) with Kimberley joining him toward the end of the song Kimberley & Robyn: I Often Dream of Trains Philospher's Stone You & Oblivion add Morris and Matthew: "...here are some songs we neglected to play or didn't rehearse..."--Robyn H. (quote approx.) Cars She Used to Drive He's a Reptile Kingdom of Love I Got the Hots ("Careful with that axe Eugene" quipped Robyn at the end) Devil Mask Airscape (or "Vanilla Love Tide"--RH) Astronomy Domine Rock 'n' Roll Toilet break "...songs from our forthcoming album..."--RH Mind is Connected Pulse of a Heart Sudden Town Mr. Kennedy Train Coming 'round the Bend at this point Robyn called Peter Buck on stage, but their was a problem with his guitar. While that was being fixed, Robyn, Matthew, and Morris played: When I Was Dead (cut off a verse or so early--just as Peter started to play the piano) now, with Peter on 12-string guitar: Bells of Rhymney Queen of Eyes (add Jon Brion--piano): It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry (Dylan) All Shook Up (Elvis) (Matthew off, Jon to bass): 8 Miles High (Byrds) Waterloo Sunset (Kinks)--Robyn gave a strong positive reaction to this suggestion by Eddie T., and played it right away saying to Peter, "...just watch Kimberley", with Peter responding,"I've been watching him all night" Walk on the Wild Side (L. Reed) Queers for Jesus--short improv to a request for Queen Elvis She Said, She Said (Beatles) (Grant Lee Phillips on and Peter Buck off): Rain (Beatles) Baby You're a Rich Man (Beatles) Little Red Rooster (Willie Dixon?) got to run, a long drive ahead, Marc I'd rather be rich than stupid.--Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:03:00 -0400 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: in pursuit of the truth about the hirsute victorian squid wrote: > To me the wild bushiness of the brows reads as a grooming fault. In the Middle Ages the monobrow was considered the mark of a werewolf. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:11:53 EDT From: CPPetunia@aol.com Subject: those crazy red-heads Mark wrote; <1. I don't know what I did to Bayard, but clearly he now hates me. I would prefer to be cast by a certain feg's Adolph Hitler Pez dispenser than Tommy Chong. Please keep trying: Paul Rubens, Harry Anderson-even Harvey Fucking Keitel! Please Bayard, accept my most profound apologies for my human and/or animalfoibles that would cause you to associate me witha total idiot zombie. > Thank-you, and I thought it was just me he hated. Gillian Anderson??!? If you're gonna go by hair color alone, Barry, Carrot-top in drag would be more appropriate. Other reasonable choice are Lucille Ball, Bette Midler and Molly Ringwald, although the later is not quite wacky enough, but she does have a good pout. Carissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:45:25 -0500 From: Henry Krinkle Subject: The Soft Boys 'n Me pt.1 Hello Fegs, Lots of preparation went into seeing the Soft Boys on this tour, so I prepared a timeline for you: Fall 1986-My parents give me $70 to buy boots (footwear not records) and I spend it on records at the Record Gallery on Lower Greenville in Dallas. One of these records is the "Wading through a Ventilator" EP. My parents notice that I didn't buy boots and ground me from buying records. I still have the EP. Fall 1986-Still grounded, I make a clandestine purchase of "Invisible Hits" at the Sound Warehouse in Plano, TX. I become addicted to "Love Poisoning." Winter 1987-I pay too much for a copy of "Can of Bees" at Bill's Records in Richardson, TX. Spring 1989-I find a copy of "Underwater Moonlight" in a record collection of my then-boyfriend's friend in Wichita Falls, TX. A few weeks later my then-boyfriend gives me a tape of it as a "gift." (Although I am thrilled to have a copy of this to listen to, I am appalled at the cheapness of my then-boyfriend.) (Robyn Hitchcock solo sidenote: I see Robyn for the first time in the Fall of 1990 at Club Dada in Dallas. I'm not quite 21 yet, so my Dad takes me. After the show, I chat nervously with Robyn and my Dad helps him light a cigarette.) Fall 1991-I purchase the elusive "Live at the Portland Arms" at RPM Records in Garland, TX. Spring 1993(or whenever it came out)-I spend my last dime on the Rykodisc 2 CD compilation "1976-81" at 14 Records in Denton, TX. Fall 1994-I meet my future husband at a party in Austin, TX. He owns "Underwater Moonlight" on LP and has the CD re-issue. March 2001-I buy the Matador re-issue of "Underwater Moonlight" on LP at Waterloo Records in Austin, TX. It is the first time I have actually owned a copy of this baby. One week later the Soft Boys kick off their reunion tour in Austin at SXSW. The show is great but too short, so I decide to catch another show in San Francisco. To be continued... - --stacy (aka zelda pinwheel) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:17:54 -0400 From: scary mary Subject: for those of us without http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/playground/theremin1.shtml s.m ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:56:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: those crazy feg-heads > appropriate. Other reasonable choice are Lucille Ball, Bette Midler and Molly > Ringwald, although the later is not quite wacky enough, but she does have a > good pout. looks like my flick will be awhile, as JH3's lawyers seem to have cleaned out my bank account for me; but -- how about rosie o'donnell in a custom-made wig? And before y'all get all sensitive, remember i am apparently 'pudgy' from seinfeld, and kurt bloch, let's just say he's a super cool guy and a killer guitarist, but looks are perhaps not his strong suit... (gosh i hope he's not reading... kurt, don't take it personally, after all i'm speaking of myself too! and i can't play guitar) i guess i was younger and thinner last time i looked at myself... ok, now we need a fund raiser to make this thing... =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 08:43:47 -0700 From: "Renee Haggart" Subject: Re: feg-casting-call Hey, can I be in the film even tho I was absent from the list for two years and only made it to one show on the current tour? I promise to ace any kind of audition you can come up with. I don't even care who plays me (as long as she is Scandinavian, of course...) Renee, stuck in BC - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:56:11 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: those crazy feg-heads >> appropriate. Other reasonable choice are Lucille Ball, Bette Midler and Molly >> Ringwald, although the later is not quite wacky enough, but she does have a >> good pout. And Bayard added: >looks like my flick will be awhile, as JH3's lawyers seem to have cleaned >out my bank account for me; but -- how about rosie o'donnell in a >custom-made wig? And before y'all get all sensitive, remember i am >apparently 'pudgy' from seinfeld, and kurt bloch, let's just say he's a >super cool guy and a killer guitarist, but looks are perhaps not his >strong suit... (gosh i hope he's not reading... kurt, don't take it >personally, after all i'm speaking of myself too! and i can't play >guitar) no no no, you are "Puddy" from Seinfeld -- he was Elaine's boyfriend and, while a bit of a doofus, he's a good looking man. Kurt Bloch is a great guitarist (see: The Fastbacks oeuvre for proof), even if not the spiffiest of individuals. >i guess i was younger and thinner last time i looked at myself... >ok, now we need a fund raiser to make this thing... As far as the movie goes, screw the fundraiser -- I say we shoot to digital video (we have several among listees), edit on computers (macintoshes, natch, as they are built for it, and don't even get me started on those, whaddya call 'em, doors? no, holes? no, *windows* thingies), and blow the DV into film once we get a distribution deal. The only real overhead is for the actors, but with the strike looming and the sheer prestige value of appearing in this work, I'm sure they'll drop or eliminate their fees. - -ed =b ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. 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Edward at PooleR@dsmo.com wrote: > As far as the movie goes, screw the fundraiser -- I say we shoot to digital > video (we have several among listees), edit on computers (macintoshes, > natch, as they are built for it, and don't even get me started on those, > whaddya call 'em, doors? no, holes? no, *windows* thingies), and blow the DV > into film once we get a distribution deal. The only real overhead is for > the actors, but with the strike looming and the sheer prestige value of > appearing One question: Is this movie ABOUT anything? Maybe we should start with a screenplay before we start contacting the William Morris Agency.... - -t "It's a show about nothing!" c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:27:09 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Liz Phair got the Hots! On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Mark Gloster wrote: > 3. Karen/Carole Fever: The cover of one Liz Phair > album is the only place she ever looked as good as > either of our own twins. She probably worked on > makeup and angles for hours. And all that was before > the hours of Photoshop stuff. Pshaw -- Liz always looked pretty damn good to me in person, i must say. (Must I? Yes, apparently I must.) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Marc wrote: > add Morris and Matthew: > "...here are some songs we neglected to play or didn't rehearse..."--Robyn H.$ > Cars She Used to Drive [...] > Devil Mask wow, I find it really interesting that these two wound up in the same set. I've seen several gigs in which Monsieur Le Hitchcock has played "Devil Mask," and every time he starts it, I hope it's going to be "Cars" instead. Anybody else ever have that 'problem?' - -- d. np soft boys in baltimore. <- ye gods, on topic!? - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.shoddyworkmanship.net -- post punk skronk rawk = the new thing - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = rock music ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:29:50 -0000 From: "Spring Cherry" Subject: Homeric Lobsters with Tweezers Nat: >a stuffed lobster >(a toy) whom I named Homerus, the Latin word for lobster: Amazing what one learns on Fegmaniax. So does that mean the Romans thought of Homer as a poetic blind lobster? The tag "the wine dark sea" takes on a whole new meaning. >Paper dolls! Yes, all the little feg girls will be able to take >Robyn and >Matthew's pants off! Whee! But alas they were born with trousers on, so youd just wind up with another pair of pants;-). Ed Poole: >Robbie Coltrane as Morris >Windsor; and, in a special bout of stunt casting, featuring his >hitherto >unexplored british accent, it's Jerry "the Beav" Mathers as Matthew >Seligman. Someone earlier mentioned Morris's resembelence to Stephen Rea(sp?.) Maybe Ray and Coltrane could play him in alternating scenes. But what I want to know is, can a beaver be a soft boy? Greg without a shell: >Price of ticket: well Anubis wanted of course, your soul, Osiris >thought >that would be a bad idea, and Sebek agreed, saying it was not really >a >sellers market for souls right now. Horus blinked his ever watchful >eye, >and demanded that I only charge what was paid. And Isis wanted.... And dont forget Toth's wife, the librarian Goddess Seshat. Greg with Shell: >Yesterday at a local convenience store I purchased a >Sade CD, Lovers Rock. It is a pirated copy. What should I do? Go to Amazon.com and look at the first review "Arrgh mateys" for "Sodomy and the Pirate Tradition. " Its one of the funnier book reviews Ive read in awhile, really has nothing to do with your query, but I just discovered it yesterday and love to "share." Hey--you used the word pirate, what more do I need? Uber Brown: >>I think that most of us would agree that Dana Carvey would play >> >>Kimberley. >No he must be played by a Muppet! A muppet of Dana Carvey ... controlled by Mike Meyers? Uber made further casting trouble: >Julie Andrews She plays me, the obnoxious fan who keeps singing bits of "Angelpoise (Lamp)" to the tune of "Edelweisse." Actually, as far the casting thing for particular Fegs goes... When I was young guys were always trying to make points by telling me how Bodechelian/Primavera/Venus on the half-shell I looked (as in --see what a sensitive guy I am, I know Rennassance Art.) In my old age Id say think more middle-aged Judith Light(yeah, ... the "blonde" from "Whose The Boss" and the Martha Stewart thing)with glasses, a bad attitude, much less make-up and seriously messy hair. UberAlice: >Kurt from the YFF is a dead ringer for Terry Gilliam. Yes .... and he could direct!!!(hey-3 of my 10 desert island flicks are by Gillian.) But wouldnt Gillian be the perfect director? Nat on the history of male dressing: >it eventually >became a social no-no for men to wear bright colors at all, even in > >everyday situations. What I also hate is the whole hip working woman neutral thing too. Go to NY and drown in black and grey. Now Im usually pretty badly-dressed but I love color. Why humans deny themselves such a simple shot of beauty I dont know. Stephen: >Quote by Vonnegut: >Just because some of us can read and write and do a little math, that >doesn't mean we deserve to conquer the universe. >Anagram of quote: >A masquerade can cover a sense of what is real to deceive us; to be >unjaded and not lost, we must, then, determine truth. Great sig. But --how-- does one determine truth?;-) >Jill B., who promises to try to stay on the subject of music for the >next >week Dont you dare! Susan: >I guess I'm a bit taken aback that you and Kay seem to equate male >eyebrow >grooming with -plastic surgery-. I just don't look at this >the same way I >look at nosejobs or whatever. I don't see it as being >remotely the same >sort of thing. Go figure. *shrug* Well, as someone who'se female grooming skills are minimal and maladept ... who rarely plucks her eyebrows(I have to be really really bored) ... I dont see brow grooming as a normal thing for a guy to do. At all. No guy Ive ever been around has tried to borrow my tweezers. Ive never even seen a guy Im with play with his eyebrows(but then perhaps I lead a sheltered life.) Now, speaking of facial hair Ive got the real stuff--yes, fine blonde peach fuzz where guys would have sideburns and mustache. When I remember and am really really bored I use some Nair. But most of the time I dont remember and its probably visable. Had very few (thou those few have been memorable) instances of guys running away from my prescence screaming "the horror, the horror." And, to really gross everyone out ... I do have two moles out of which sprout a few long, skinny, course, dark, curling hairs. These are what I use my tweezers on. If I forget they start growing down my cheek and curl between my freckles unless they stick out into the breeze like waving fingers of black doom, semephoring odiousness to all passerbyes who immediatly scurry away. See, Im aweful. I have a hard time taking this stuff seriously. And, Susan, thou its none of my business, my guess is that letting your monobrow grow wouldnt make that much difference in terms of whose attracted to you and who isnt(and I may be totally wrong and out of line.) But I really do think people are attracted to others as much by the "atmosphere" generated by the total package as by small details. I like Robyns monobrow cause it works just right with his package. The features people are born with usually do. Id probobly like you with yours(monobrow, I assume you still have most of your original features;-) Im not a total barbarian. I believe in being clean and not stinking up the joint. But I also think our culture does encourage us to feel bad about our outward appearance and neglect our inner prescence completerly ... so it can sell us stuff. Nair and tweezers and everything else to make us perfectly interchangeable generic cogs in the mating machine. And plastic surgery is part of that continium, farther along it granted, but part of it. If Robyn wanted to be massively popular he might find such stuff useful ... but I dont think he wants to be massively popular. I think he wants to be him. I think I saw some blurb on Jullianne Moore where she says something about never being pretty enough, so at a certain point you just have to let it go. It seems like every decade theres more stuff we're supposed to groom or change. Susan, Ive gone into abit rant and Im sorry cause your comment was quite sensible. Just stop me fore I rant again. Ill stop here:-) Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #120 ********************************