From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #104 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, April 2 2001 Volume 10 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Underwater Moonlight [recount chocula ] Re: Astronomy Domine!!! [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Underwater Moonlight ["Mike wells" ] Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 ["ross taylor" ] Re: Underwater Moonlight [recount chocula ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #103 [DDerosa5@aol.com] Rabid Town [GSS ] Re: Astronomy Domine!!! [Ken Weingold ] other Robyn fans in music [DDerosa5@aol.com] RE: Astromony in the Midwest ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 [Aaron Mandel ] '"You can be what you like as long as it's in inverted commas"' ["In Prai] Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 [dmw ] Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 [Stefan Cooke Subject: Re: Underwater Moonlight when we last left our heroes, Mike wells exclaimed: >FYI largest shirts they had were XL, which in reality looked like Mediums >(quite short). in washington, all they had was large. turned out to be roomy enough but we'll see what happens after it gets washed (laundry day!). woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:28:14 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Astronomy Domine!!! On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Dolph Chaney wrote: > I had spent my commute to work playing THE PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN, > trying to send vibes to the Soft Boys... "pleeeease... play a Syd > thing... pleeeeeeease" And when it did, I think I was the only guy in > the Metro bleating out all the lyrics at the top of my fucking lungs. All together now: 'Lime and limpid green the sounds surround the icy waters under - lime and limpid green the sounds surround the icy waters under ... ground!' I'll be the one shouting for it in Bristol, anyway! - - Mike Godwin, aged 53 PS Crazy Unca Nick wrote: "The last time I saw the Soft Boys perform was in Cambridge in 1979. (yes, I'm *that* old - but there's at least one person on the list older than me. He knows who he is.)" That's right - thanks for all the birthday wishes, gang! We went to see 'Best in show' which was pretty funny. Who is Eugene Levy, who co-wrote it and played the guy with 2 left feet? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:29:22 -0500 From: "Mike wells" Subject: Re: Underwater Moonlight Did they have the "bowling team on ludes" blue ones with orange piping? Out of site! They looked highly shrinkable, otherwise I'd have bought two. Whatever happened to the white 'soft boy' shirts the UM website previewed from SXSW? Has anyone seen these at the shows, or were these just teasers? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "recount chocula" To: "worst...mailing list...EVER!" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: Re: Underwater Moonlight > when we last left our heroes, Mike wells exclaimed: > > >FYI largest shirts they had were XL, which in reality looked like Mediums > >(quite short). > > in washington, all they had was large. turned out to be roomy enough but > we'll see what happens after it gets washed (laundry day!). > > woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:30:50 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:08:42 Johnathan Vail wrote: >> Does anyone know if Hitchcock & Richman ever >> met, or even mentioned each other? > >Not sure. Did anyone anyone already mention that J Richman was the >front for the Modern Lovers? Yet another of those influential yet not >too commercially successful bands. For a whle in the 80's it seemed >like every band had to have a cover of "Road Runner" although I can >only think of Greg Kihn right now. Joan Jett too, tho I never heard it. Richman actually hung out w/ the Velvets for a bit. I think they thought he was an over-optimistic pest. I can just see JoJo saying to Reed "Lou, you look pale, have some chicken soup!" His early Modern Lovers sounds to me like VU fronted by a (brilliant) yenta. >Last time I saw Richman was at the Channel in Boston (which says how >long ago *that* was...) and they were having sound and lighting >problems. The bass player was pissed he couldn't hear hismonitor and >kept walking off stage. There wasn't much humor that night. For a supposedly laid-back, impulsive guy, he seems very controlling w/ his bands, often gesturing for them to quiet down etc. (unlike Robyn). He also seems to really hate the press for some reason (also unlike Robyn. Or, not that I know how RH feels about the press, but he always provides interesting, funny copy.) In interviews sometimes Richman's punk fangs show-- my guess is he takes press stuff rather personally. I guess problems like the above could have moved him from rock towards folk. Plus bass players are usually a pain, I always made it a point to be. :) But I've seen Richman loads of times 1981 on & always laughed & danced like crazy. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:13:54 -0400 From: Keith Hanlon Subject: UM on LP First off, a big hello to anyone who might remember me. I was on this list a couple years ago, but I unsubscribed from just about every music-related email list that I was on. Anyway, hello fegs... I'm writing because I need two copies of Underwater Moonlight on LP by tomorrow. One is a gift, and one is for me. If you know of somebody who may have it in stock, please let me know! I tried everyone listed on Matador's website to no avail. Thanks everyone. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:39:11 -0400 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: Underwater Moonlight when we last left our heroes, Mike wells exclaimed: >Did they have the "bowling team on ludes" blue ones with orange piping? Out >of site! They looked highly shrinkable, otherwise I'd have bought two. those are the baby tee's which kay was waxing orgasmic about recently. as such (baby tees, not orgasmic), they came preshrunk and can only get smaller. >Whatever happened to the white 'soft boy' shirts the UM website previewed >from SXSW? Has anyone seen these at the shows, or were these just teasers? i thought matthew just had one made for himself. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:55:09 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #103 In a message dated 4/2/01 1:00:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: > The "limited edition" vinyl release touted on the UM website was going for > Damn, there were no cones in DC, surely a sign they hadn't had free time yet. As soon as Robyn's bored, out they come is my guess. I've never photod my cone for any museum, but we should try to track them this time and get the virtual cone museum very updated.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:56:04 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Rabid Town Hey, Oregon is a terrarium and there are no black people in the entire state. They do use Hot Tuna bootlegs for currency and the pot is way over priced. The coast is kick-ass just like I remembered and the salmon gives me gas. The gasoline is expensive and they don't let you pump your own, anywhere. Kinda strange in that there are no laws requiring vehicles to be inspected, at least around Roseburg, Sutherlin, Coos Bay and Bandon but we can't pump our own gas, 'for enviromental reasons'. The clear cuts make me wanna puke green eggs and ham. You guys gotta make them stop this shit. Stop spending so much on paying and training 'gas pumpers' and kill the fucking logging industry. I visited Mark Gloster at his home in Bandon and we went, along with my brother, to the beach and had a great time. Mark is a really nice fella and I enjoyed spending the day with him. I was hoping we could make some music but we didn't get back to his house until 9 or 10 Saturday night. Ooh well, maybe next time. He gave me a copy of his last album and it sounds good. Viv/Jeme - what is the plan for Thursday, or is there a plan? gss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:02:24 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Astronomy Domine!!! On Mon, Apr 2, 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > That's right - thanks for all the birthday wishes, gang! We went to see > 'Best in show' which was pretty funny. Who is Eugene Levy, who co-wrote it > and played the guy with 2 left feet? Eugene Levy is a really funny Canadian actor. I think he started out on SCTV (Second City TV) and has been in many movies now. Most recent movie I can remember him being in was American Pie, as the kid's father. He was also some voices in Heavy Metal. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:15:38 EDT From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: other Robyn fans in music though I'd asked about Yo La Tengo being SB fans (and more journos should mention Wilco), I forgot one group that we know were fans of at least RH: the Old 97s. A friend who stayed here this past weekend (Viv: it was Mike Mitchell), gave me their new CD, Satellite Rides. Like their Jon Brion-produced last one, it is not country, mostly pop. Very good, though this new one doesn't seem as catchy or, more important to me, as clever lyrically. This one's produced by Wally Gagel; I know he produced their utterly indispensable album, Too Far to Care, but he doesn't match that here, anyone know what other records he's worked on? trend note: it does come in a (seemingly newly ubiquitous) double-CD case, with a live short CD in back, good covers of 19 and Timebomb, plus a studio version of what may be the best song on the CD, Singular, which I think is sung by Murry, as is another good 'un "up the devil's pay", and one of my faves from the last album, "Valentine". All I know is, the last four CDs I've added to my collection have all been double CDs. (three of them with well-made cases--the minus5/YFF one has no hinge between the CD flaps, and I'm just waiting for it to break...) Liner notes thank Robyn, by the way--have these guys even toured or even opened a gig for him? Also thank Wilco, Cheap Trick, Cake, Exene C and John Doe, and David Foster Wallace (?!), Robbie Fulks (yea!) Chris Isaak, and Mary Tyler Moore?????? that is all, dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:20:20 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Astromony in the Midwest I wrote down Astronomy Dominoe on my balloon, Carissa was handing out empty balloons in Detroit, and couldn't believe it when the played it. Although Eddie said that had sound checked it earlier. What a great night!!!! The SB's were in top form and Robyn loves playing Detroit, as he said in November of 99 after that show. It was great seeing all the fegs again. Sorry I didn't make it to the next stop in Chicago. Oh well, I'll save that for 2002 when the SB's are touring the new studio release!!! Carissa, Eddie, Brian, etc., you guys are the best! Michael PS I would love to get a cd-r of the Detroit show. - -----Original Message----- From: MPys2626@aol.com [mailto:MPys2626@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 9:58 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Astromony in the Midwest In a message dated 3/31/01 9:06:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dolph on the fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: > AND in Chicago too. 8-) I had spent my commute to work playing THE PIPER > AT THE GATES OF DAWN, trying to send vibes to the Soft Boys... > "pleeeease... play a Syd thing... pleeeeeeease" > Well, hey ho, Dolph! I'm glad YOU got it! Something to be said about a positive vibe flow! In a message dated 3/31/01 9:06:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Librik on the fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: >>Astro [they played Astronomy Domine by Syd Barrett! >>My life is now complete!!] Well....mine is yet be! They MUST do one more East coast show before departing for England's green and pleasance! DAMMIT....did anyone see a video camera at either of the Syd enriched shows? Maybe if I at least get to see this on video! Glad again for you Chi-town folks! CYAs m Sleep Well ~ Don't Burst MapslegendS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:56:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Rabid Town On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, GSS wrote: > Oregon is a terrarium and there are no black people in the entire state. I assure you all that, despite a possible metaphorical glass ceiling in hiring practices, there is no actual glass roof over Oregon. Also, there are _so_ black people here! Why, I talked to one just the other night. She was chatting with Scott McCaughey, as was I. Man, is he a nice fella. > They do use Hot Tuna bootlegs for currency and the pot is way over priced. > The coast is kick-ass just like I remembered and the salmon gives me gas. > The gasoline is expensive and they don't let you pump your own, anywhere. > Kinda strange in that there are no laws requiring vehicles to be inspected, > at least around Roseburg, Sutherlin, Coos Bay and Bandon but we can't pump > our own gas, 'for enviromental reasons'. Until I stopped using my car, I rather enjoyed the full-service. It feels less indulgent and decadent when you have no choice. > The clear cuts make me wanna puke green eggs and ham. You guys gotta make > them stop this shit. Stop spending so much on paying and training 'gas > pumpers' and kill the fucking logging industry. We have more treesitters here than in any other state bar California. I'm not sure they're going to kill the logging industry by such tactics, alas. On another front, however, an anonymous group set fire to $1 million worth of SUVs in Eugene. Far be it from me to revel in destruction of property, but...wait, that's not so far from me at all. > Viv/Jeme - what is the plan for Thursday, or is there a plan? Plan, plan....I was sure there was one around here somewhere. Oh well, we'll have to make it up. We'll be driving back to Portland on Thursday morning, and we haven't arranged a pre-show meeting place yet. I'll try to get some consensus on that and report to you by the end of today. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:29:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > Aaron Mandel looks very much like a character from a Tim Burton movie, > with a hawkish face and devilish piles of curls that crest and part > across his forehead like horns of black nerf. Not anymore! I had it cut last week on a whim. I now look like a cross between Xander and a complete tool. > (Well, ok, at least it had a conveniently placed central column > obscuring the full view of the stage.) One grows to love that column over time, as idiot stage-divers often forget that it's there. The Paradise has a weird feature which was much less noticeable at this show than it has been in the past (the result of renovation?): there's one note on a bass guitar which makes the whole place vibrate. I don't know if it's the room itself or the columns or what, but it used to be that entire songs would be ruined for me because I was dreading their return to that one tone which would make my head rattle and drown out the rest of the song. It was particularly bad at the Rock Armada show last year. Has anyone else experienced this, or am I crazy? > If they do cut a new album, I only hope they write a few more > kinetic, psychedelic songs to offset the slower-paced new ones. Me too! I like "Mr. Kennedy" a lot, despite the lyrics being subpar in places, but the rest of the unfamiliar songs were far too slow. > Aaron came over and joined in, enlivening the conversation with actual > knowledge of the cover songs played, something I am afraid I lacked. I don't remember this at all. I don't even remember them playing any covers. Perhaps I was in some sort of trance. Meeting the Boys was great; I've stopped being impressed that musicians seem human at all, but Matthew was an AMAZINGLY nice, good-humored dude. Kimberley and Morris both seemed a bit more withdrawn -- happy to meet the fans, but still suspecting that we were just there to leech off their celebrity. Matthew acted just as though he'd been introduced to us by a mutual friend at a bar something (and for all the attention I'd paid to Robyn's bandmates' contributions until now, he might as well have been). > Apparently it was made by two other guys who lived next door to them, > and hooked a microphone up to the paper-thin walls. I've been hearing about this for years, but never tracked down a copy. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:31:59 -0700 From: mrrunion@palmnet.net Subject: SB Shirt Request Hey all, Haven't posted in a-g-e-s! I can barely keep up... Anyway, might any kindly west-coasters going to an upcoming show consider doing a deal with me? I'd like to get hold of one of those tour t-shirts (someone described them all recently...wasn't there a plain crab one?). The closest they came to Florida was D.C., and my planned trip to NY sorta fell through. Email me offlist if you can help. Mike Runion (about 600 emails behind...) __________________________________________ Sent using WebInbox. "Your email gateway." Check us out at http://www.webinbox.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:31:35 -0700 From: "Natalie Jacobs" Subject: Drunk guys from Dayton! So I decided to take some time off after my months of feverish activity putting together the "Boys of Elephant 6" 2002 calendar, and went to see the illustrious Guided by Voices. The show was in honor of "Colonel Jeffrey Pumpernickel: A Concept Album," which, despite having only a barely-discernable concept, is very good and you should check it out. The first band to play was the Minus 5. Scott McCaughey was totally grey when I saw him in Seattle, yet now he is not. The wonders of hair dye, no doubt. Peter Buck, with very short hair, was almost unrecognizable and must have been sweating up a storm in his leather coat. The band played fairly undistinguished but enjoyable pop, and didn't really heat up till the last few songs. They seemed to be having a good time. Scott is a very relaxed and affable guy - Viv and I talked to him after the set, and he waxed enthusiastic about touring with the Soft Boys. He received a Thoth. ("Ah, 'Birdshead,' my favorite song," he said.) I wanted to give a special gold Thoth to Peter Buck, but he never showed up. The second band was Creeper Lagoon, and the less said about this slick, cliched alterna-pop crap, the better. "It's bands like these that make me think rock and roll is played out," said Jeme. They get a lot of good reviews for some reason, and I suspect that critics want to say, "I liked 'em first!" before the band's bland swill gets plastered all over MTV. The crowd grew dense. Richard Meltzer came out on stage and read some really bad poetry, and was vigorously heckled amidst sports arena chants of "GBV! GBV! GBV!" I was torn - the guy is a legendary critic, and one shouldn't heckle such people, but on the other hand, his poetry sure was bad. Meltzer tried to read the liner notes to "Jeffrey Pumpernickel" (which are actually quite good), but the crowd had had enough. "And now... Black Sabbath!" Meltzer announced, and took off. I am now of the opinion that many GBV fans are basically morons. Someone threw a *bottle cap* at Meltzer - and I don't care if his poetry sucked, hurling sharp-edged objects at people on stage is not cool. Periodically throughout the show, people threw half-full cups of beer at the band - the same band they had been shouting for and dancing to, and who they had paid $13 to see. (Is this some bizarre fan ritual I don't know about?) And then, joy of joys, a fuckin' FIGHT broke out right near me - some guy went totally berserk and had to be restrained by other crowd members before being hauled away by the bouncers. When the band played "Teenage FBI," I was nearly knocked over by fans rushing into the crowd from the bar so they could dance. Jeez - I don't know which is worse, too-hip-to-smile indie-rockers, or these liquored-up losers. Oh, but the band kicked all kinds of ass. Robert Pollard *is* a homely, Midwestern Roger Daltrey - he's got all the moves, the shoulder-swagger, the whirling microphone, everything. All he's missing is the looks. And he does karate kicks and makes funny, fey gestures with his free hand, holding his cigarette between his ring finger and pinkie, and yells "Rock and roll!" without irony. Something about his attitude reminded me of some other aging British pop star - I'm not sure who. When he talked, I was surprised he didn't have a British accent. The lead guitarist guy (Doug Gillard?) wore a smart polka-dotted shirt, which Viv admired. The other guys, who all seemed much younger, were more in the background. But they rocked, and they kept playing, and playing, and playing. I didn't know the names of most of the songs, though one should have been called "Let's Vamp Till Bob Gets Off the Floor." I had a lot of fun anyway. Towards the end of the set, they played some songs that I knew - "Teenage FBI," "I am a Scientist," "The Gold Heart Mountain Top Queen Directory," and that song that goes, "Speed up, slow down, go all around." (Can you guess which GBV album I listen to the most?) I liked it when the bassist took over the riff from "Scientist" so Gillard could go get a drink. By this time, Pollard was visibly drunk, slurring his words and staggering a bit. (Thankfully, he was no longer whirling the microphone.) Remembering Susan's experience seeing a pitifully drunk Jack Logan, I decided to cut my losses and split before the encore. gnat "I shoot myself with rock and roll" the gnatster _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:02:08 -0000 From: "In Praise Of Limestone" Subject: '"You can be what you like as long as it's in inverted commas"' Hey Phvhz Seth(welcome, youre from my favorite state of the union), arent people abit startled at spying a frisbee-playing Jesus in a Girl Scout shirt? Or do they - -like- it? Eric: >My guess would be God's Children, from the movie Percy, written by >Raymond >H. Hmm...maybe not though...no trick in the wording? (of the title > >anyway) Give the man a virtual cigar. The (small) trick was that RH could stand for Robyn ooooor Raymond H. Russ: >Okay, I'm not really trying. I just wanted to say "Harry Rag". Give the man a virtual shampoo bottle. (Dont ask.) Dwarf posting article from the SF TragiComical: "fervent cult following" --- Has anyone ever seen the description, "temperate cult following" or "fair to middling, take ot or leave it cult following"? "But the project has really put a fire under Hitchcock's posterior." Would that be a "fervent" fire, or more a "rip-roaring singe all the ass-hairs(vr neck-hairs) off fire?" And according to this RH is no longer "eccentric." He is now "droll." ""Queen Elvis" and "Eye" even briefly clawed their way out of the college radio slums." Got -that- mental picture? Do you think its a lame attempt at Hitchcockian imagery or just plain ineptitude. I hate bad writing. I really really hate bad writing. Jill wrote: >And so, is the answer to the Hitchcock trivia question "God's >Children"? Give the girl a virtual .... , well, whatever she wants:-).(No--not that shampoo bottle from out of the bog.) Derosa: >thinking about making Jeme a deal where I don't burn any plastic as >long >as, if and when he has a kid, he beats her/him at least monthly, >but I >don't think Viv would allow it, Hey I can do better. I wouldnt burn plastic and I wouldnt beat my kid. Im - -such- a saint. Vaska: How bout posting your Blake review here? I need to go up to see it and that will give me incentive. LJ: Thanks for the citysearch link. Godwin: >The hard-drinking Brit was almost certainly Alan Price, former ace >keyboard-player (and rip-off merchant) with the Animals. Righhhht(memory dings in.) And participant in "Oh Lucky Man." Poole: >the "underground" (i.e. non-sanctioned by the >original studio or creators) Roadrunner & Wile E. Coyote cartoon in >which >the Coyote *finally* catches the Roadrunner and eats him >(her?)? I >understand that the RR creators never made a cartoon where >the Coyote >"wins," though they did make one where he is shrunken to a >tiny size and >then catched the RR's enormous (to him) leg. Coyote >then holds up a sign >to the audience reading "You always wanted me to >catch him -- now what do >I do?" In cartoon land you are your function, so take away the MO and wouldnt they both disppear as characters? But perhaps they would mate first and produce an off-spring who would then continually comically self-destruct (and , therefore lead to new howling mishaps(but only if there was a demand for such stuff.)) Perhaps the offspring would find their calling in life in a rock n roll toilet? By the way, Ive always figured Road Runner for the girl(dosnt she have a pink bow?)( Dosnt really fit with the song thou, does it?)(or does it?)(Im getting confused) (Too many digests in one day.) I love all the good reviews of the SBs being posted. But I cant help wondering--does this mean there are no negative ones? Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:19:24 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: > The Paradise has a weird feature which was much less noticeable at this > show than it has been in the past (the result of renovation?): there's > one note on a bass guitar which makes the whole place vibrate. I don't > know if it's the room itself or the columns or what, but it used to be > that entire songs would be ruined for me because I was dreading their > return to that one tone which would make my head rattle and drown out the > rest of the song. It was particularly bad at the Rock Armada show last > year. Has anyone else experienced this, or am I crazy? I've never been to the Paradise, but it's very easy for an acoustically untreated (or poorly treated) room to have effects like this when sound waves are reflected through a space that amplifies the wave (i.e., the peaks coincide). You're probably losing some frequencies due to phase cancellation, too, although that may be less annoyingly obvious. It's not likely to sound the same everywhere in the room, so if it's bugging you, try moving (try not to be between parallel reflective surfaces where possible). If it *does* happen everywhere in the room, the sound person really ought to be dealing with it, imnsho. - -- d. np eliza carthy _angels & cigarettes_ hrm. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Cooke Subject: Re: [QuailEbiax!] Rock-n-Feg Toilet, Part 2 On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, dmw wrote: > I've never been to the Paradise, but it's very easy for an acoustically > untreated (or poorly treated) room to have effects like this when sound > waves are reflected through a space that amplifies the wave (i.e., the > peaks coincide). You're probably losing some frequencies due to phase > cancellation, too, although that may be less annoyingly obvious. > > It's not likely to sound the same everywhere in the room, so if it's > bugging you, try moving (try not to be between parallel reflective > surfaces where possible). If it *does* happen everywhere in the room, the > sound person really ought to be dealing with it, imnsho. The sound was really quite excellent at the front of the stage, at least over by Kimberley, as I hope many of you will soon find out as the Boston impromptu tree is now underway. I mailed out five CDR sets this lunchtime, so the gig should spread quickly. I'm also planning to convert the gig to SHN and post to Ken Weingold's ftp site soon. I remember dmw from way back... are you still into the Fall, Doug? Their latest CD, the Unutterable, is a scorcher. Stefan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:02:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: '"You can be what you like as long as it's in inverted commas"' Gosh...so much mail today that I don't even have the patience to give it a full read. Interesting, how this reunion tour has drawn more list volume and more new posters than any other Robyn event I can recall since I've been subscribed. Can it be that the name "Soft Boys" has more recognition/cachet than "Robyn Hitchcock" nowadays?? A weird twist to RH's already unpredictable career arc. The Queen of Consolidation wrote: >"fervent cult following" --- Has anyone ever seen the description, >"temperate cult following" or "fair to middling, take ot or leave it cult >following"? >"But the project has really put a fire under Hitchcock's posterior." >Would that be a "fervent" fire, or more a "rip-roaring singe all the >ass-hairs(vr neck-hairs) off fire?" >And according to this RH is no longer "eccentric." He is now "droll." >""Queen Elvis" and "Eye" even briefly clawed their way out of the college >radio slums." Got -that- mental picture? Do you think its a lame attempt at >Hitchcockian imagery or just plain ineptitude. >I hate bad writing. I really really hate bad writing. Heh. I've known that writer for years...actually, I think he's pretty darn good, myself. Then again, he likes *my* writing a lot, so he's gotta have a screw loose. ;) Gnat: >The second band was Creeper Lagoon, and the less said about this slick, >cliched alterna-pop crap, the better. "It's bands like these that make me >think rock and roll is played out," said Jeme. They get a lot of good >reviews for some reason, and I suspect that critics want to say, "I liked >'em first!" before the band's bland swill gets plastered all over MTV. I'm puzzled by that band's acclaim, too. They're aren't melodic enough to be good pop, and not rhythmically intricate enough to be good post-rock...they just fall between the conceptual cracks. And their sound is so polished that I'm not even sure I'd call them "alternative." You're dreaming if you think they'll get "plastered all over MTV," though...you seem to be dropping them into the faceless Matchbox 20/Third Eye Blind zone, and I don't think that's accurate. Eb, *still* half-sick 'n' sore-throated np: Mark Eitzel/The Invisible Man ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #104 ********************************