From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #97 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 29 2001 Volume 10 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- martha martha martha [recount chocula ] dear feggy [Sam Adams ] Mould sings RT [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: anyone can play guitar? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Nine Concerts in as many days; or, the Soft Boys take the Eastern Seaboard [Bayard ] Re: Nick Cave in Chicago ["Stewart C. Russell" ] MPEG video clips [Bayard ] "Greatest fucking line in rock & roll history" mini-digest ["In Praise Of] Re: emergence of an invisible fan [Tom Clark ] Detroit/Chicago/see ya... ["brian nupp" ] Re: frumpling [Brian Cully ] Boston [Johnathan Vail ] Re: Nine Concerts in as many days; or, the Soft Boys take the Eastern Seaboard [Ken Weingold ] Re: "Greatest fucking line in rock & roll history" mini-digest [Eb ] Boston [Johnathan Vail ] Fw: Chicago Meeting Place ["Mike wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:47:27 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: martha martha martha especially for Eb...but i hear the quail likes his udders oppressive too. ;) (i won't be there; i'll be seeing eliza carthy at joe's pub.) woj >Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:16:10 -0500 (EST) >To: thepeople@whooughttoknow.wha? >From: Nicholas Hill >Subject: Martha Wainwright at The Bowery Ballroom tonight! > >Martha Wainwright will be performing Thursday, March 29 at the Bowery >Ballroom. >That is TONIGHT for those of you receiving this on Thursday. > >The Bowery Ballroom is on Delancey Street near Bowery in New York City. > > >Martha will take the stage at 9:15pm. >The fine New York ensemble Hem will follow. >Ms. Elizabeth Harper starts the show at 8:30. > >I'm told this is accurate. > >*** >This is the first time Martha has brought her full band for a set at this >esteemed establishment. Your attendance is requested. If you have not >seen Martha for some time, I highly recommend catching this show. If you >have only read the same v, but out of date Time Out New York notice that >has been running the last three years, you have some explaining to do. >Time does not stand still, and neither does Martha. Although she does now >and then do other things besides play the occasional New York show. For >instance: > >Here is a list of small and big California shows. > >April 12 - Silver Lake Lounge, LA >April 21 - CIA Club, LA >April 27 - Knitting Factory, Los Angeles >April 28 - Lo Bero - Santa Barbara >April 29 - Great American Music Hall, San Francisco > >Also, Martha will be touring as part of her brother Rufus' band throughout >the spring. > >Oh, and I will remind you all again in a few days, Martha will be playing >at Fez in NYC this Tuesday, April 3. Teddy Thompson plays at 9pm. Martha >at 10pm. These two New York shows will likely be very different, so maybe >you should just attend both. > >Yours in a bowl of mush, >Nicholas Hill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:27:19 -0500 From: Sam Adams Subject: dear feggy Unfortunately I've misplaced the email of the fine fellow with the ftp tree up at stats.unidec.co.uk, so hope the open email is OK. I was very happy to see the Great American Music Hall show turn up on the server But, a couple of the tracks are cut short or start in the middle -- specifically tracks 9, 10, and 12 (the last of which lasts about 4 seconds). Any chance of putting them back up? (And, oh, I kinda like the Miles Davis stuff.) Sam ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:38:25 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Mould sings RT >I am also a huge Bob Mould fan. Have you heard his covers of Shoot >Out The Lights and Turning Of The Tide? Shoot Out The Lights I think >was only ever done live, and Turning Of The Tide in the studio with X >as his backup band! Both awesome covers. TotT is on the excellent Richard Thompson tribute album "Beat the Retreat", as is X's version of SotL. Other than those, there is an excellent version of "Wall of Death" by REM and great work by the likes of Bonnie Raitt, June Tabor, David Byrne, Los Lobos, and others James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:50:40 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: anyone can play guitar? >I've had guitars available to me for many years, like at least 10 by now, but >because I never really practice much of anything (I get as far as providing >myself chords to sing over, since my voice is my "primary instrument") I >still can't really do anything with them. I know notes, chords, basic music >theory, reading tab (duh), the whole bit, but I'm planning to commit to getting >better in my fingers and not just in my head. > >So the question is: what's the best way (or what are some good ways) to make >progress at the stage I'm at? Should I be trying to learn songs by my favorite >artists? Should I be focusing on more advanced/colorful techniques so that I >will understand said songs when I'm finally ready to play them? Or should I >just keep messing around until I find songs springing from my fretboard (the >current, not very successful, strategy)? one thing I've tried which works to some extent is to find songs that you like which have simple chord structures and are fairly sparse. Then simply play along with them, ignoring the vocals and picking out what sound like reasonable lead breaks over the chords - sort of 'instrumental karaoke'. It's slow at first (especially if you have trouble playing by ear), but I found when I was working at music on a more full-time basis that this method allowed me to work out more melodic guitar patterns with my own music. ISTR that very good starter ones for me included Jerry Harrison's "Man with a gun", "Dirt" by PCO, and "Everything merges with the night" by Eno, but something like "Airscape" would work just as well... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:39:34 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Nine Concerts in as many days; or, the Soft Boys take the Eastern Seaboard This post contains "spoiler" information on songs they soft boys have been playing. personal favorite gigs: DC, philly, boston. least favorite gig: irving plaza (but not the soft boys' fault.) however, the best Young Fresh Fellows set was probably irving plaza. they fockin rocked! the cast of characters, in descending order by time spent in the car with me: eddie tews. i have a lot of very close friends on this list (you know who you are) but i feel like eddie is my brother. carissa. she's great. so fun, and funny, and gets along with everyone. plus, she's irish. woj. the list-god himself. kept calling me "bayardo!". punched me whenever he saw a new beetle. el grande quailio. the quail's persona is legendary; his minions are legion. he has a sort of a demon-bird familiar that is part vampire, part winged lizard. it's a shame about ross. the quail explained his theory on men and women to eddie and me. apparently women make nests because they're situated closer to the ground, or something. christopher gross. i see this guy all the time. he's probably the most civilized male feg i know, but not in a boring way. scary mary. she's got a fantastic apartment with roof-top access and a new haircut. "you've got a hairstyle that suits you..." "and the rest..." Random thoughts before i forget everything: Baltimore, 3/19 It took a couple of songs to get going, but get going it did. Matthew was raring to go and came out on stage before the others. "...is this your solo career?" someone called out, and he smiled. Morris seemed a bit tired at this gig, but they still did a great job. Robyn kept looking at the others and smiling, both during and after a great song. Eddie and I both thought "tonight" was "underwater moonlight" at first. I really like Fletcher's... it's small, and dark. Very dark. kind of a dive, but in a good way. Someone pointed out Melissa and asked "is that melissa?", i said no i didn't think so, then she came over and introduced herself. Philly, 3/20 Kay was jazzed about the "baby t" and the show. "Eb" introduced himself to her. This was the only gig i didn't go up front for, instead opting for a chair. Eddie thought "Evil Guy" didn't work, but I rather did, and was glad to hear it, though i missed the keyboard sounds and the "do-wam do wam-do-ahh". "...Silver Wands" was amazing. I got chills at this show. DC, 3/21 Probably my fav gig so far, the vibe or whatever was just so perfect. Robyn was *psyched*. Carissa showed up in time for the really cool songs. Dave DeRosa is a great host and a really cool guy. Bryn Mar PA, 3/22 (Dan Bern/Bernstein) My first Bernstein gigs, and they made me a believer. The first set was very well done, if a bit short at 70 min. The second was very free-form and fun, he went off mic when there were technical difficulties and told a long story about "Jimmy and Jesus the Christ." then he brought it full circle and finished the songs he'd started earlier. I was impressed. Maxwell's, NJ, 3/23 woj and eddie squeezed in at the last minute. Kimberley is the nicest guy in the world. Maxwell's is very "rock and roll", as Eddie observed. the place was pretty well packed. Cheers to Maxwell's for the $15 ticket price - by far the lowest of the tour so far. i don't think they deal with ticketmafia either. it was good to see Dan Poppe and talk to him. I saw Laurence too, but didn't talk to him. Sally was there too, I was told, as well as Morris' family, who had Queen of Eyes dedicated to them. Robyn watched the Fellows' set, at least he was in the audience when i entered. NYC, 3/24 The goons at irving plaza are fucking assholes, as has been noted. 3/25... (day off) The Paradise, Boston, 3/26 This place really IS a paradise. excellent layout, cool about taping, and they didn't shoo us out when the gig ended. Met a bunch of boston area fegs - kenster, johnathan vail, aaron mandel, even robyn collector extraordinaire john partridge! We had very good Thai food before the gig at the restaurant next to the venue, and so did the Soft Boys. (yes, we left them alone. Kimberley and Matthew waved to us, though.) The gig was phenomenal. The crowd was going nuts. Robyn was beaming. Three encores. No-one wanted it to end. I think they played their entire current repetoire except for tonight and each of her silver wands. After the show, we chatted with Kurt Bloch, who is very cool and friendly (i think all the young fresh fellows are.) Then Morris and Kimberley and Matthew came out and talked to us for a while. (Robyn was also talking to people, but upstairs.) They seem to be just as pleased with the shows as we are, and want to keep working together, as long as they don't get into a rut. More power to them!! NewArk, delaware, 3/27 (Bernstein) Eddie was disappointed in this gig - I think the first one he's seen himself that he didn't like. I thought it was interesting. See the Bern list for further details (hi Butch.) =b Keep the reports coming.... np. _underwater moonlight_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:40:28 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Hitchcock short story Saw the famous Greg Kihn on Bay TV this evening talking about his forthcoming collection of short stories by musicians. He mentioned Robyn Hitchcock by name as being one of the contributers. The book should be out around October. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:28:45 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Nick Cave in Chicago "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > > Yes, the banjo is quite frequently fingerpicked. But it can be, and is > often, strummed as well. and if you want to hear a sound that REALLY sucks, you should hear it bowed -- Julian K of Neutral Milk Hotel did/does this, and the sound is both loud and annoying... but in a good way. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:34:05 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: soft boys/ eddi reader mike hooker wrote: > > the artist is Eddi Reader.... does > anyone have an opinion of her one way or the other? She's good, despite coming from Irvine (Scotland), which used to a) explode frequently b) have a high concentration of nitroglycerine addicts. (Nobel made most of their nitro in Irvine, and the workers used to get physically dependent on it [from the fumes] to keep their circulation going.) Oh, and I once saw Robyn play in Irvine. And my friend Euan works in a record store there, and will probably be playing UM even now... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:01:29 -0800 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: emergence of an invisible fan Hi, Jill! >You can all just >imagine the Robynrant that resulted from that alignment of the stars >Anyway, quick on the heels of that, I got pregnant, Wow, that's quite a response to a Robyn story! So I guess it *is* "decked with flowers, women ovulated!" - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: MPEG video clips Did anyone save the .mpeg video files that used to be at glasshotel.net/gh/theatre.htm ? If not, i can make them again, but you know.... there was a clip of the soft boys doing 'only the stones remain' in '79, robyn doing 'sometimes i wish i was a pretty girl' solo, the 'freeze' from HBO, maybe one other. dont email them to this address... just let me know you have them and we will figure out how to get them to me. =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:29:12 -0000 From: "In Praise Of Limestone" Subject: "Greatest fucking line in rock & roll history" mini-digest Big Ayed: >Sudden Town is my >favorite of the new crop, My powers of discretion not being at their highest, Im not sure I could differentiate too much tween the different unrecorded stuff. Basicailly there were 2 categories--stuff I knew and stuff I didnt. And all I know is that the second category sounded as good as the first. Eb, you lucky woof, Cage, Thompson and soon The SBs. Thanks for letting the rest of us know what we're missing. I have to see if Thompson is coming thru here, would love to hear him with just his guitar. He manages to be intricate and simple at the same time, which is impossible...and therefore highly gratifying. Tom: >And his gofer, >Neuwirth, comes across as pretty snide too. >Was he the young Brit who drank a lot? Or the American who looked >like >Sterling Morrison? Neuwirth was abit of a jerk, wasnt he? As to his identity, while I wouldnt ask him any questions on Med/Ren lit, Ive go for the latter. Ken the Kenster: >personally, i think that exposing your kids to these kinds of things >in a >controlled way is better than letting them discover them blindly. Are you a dad? Cause you sure sound like one:-). Agreed. Ken Weingold: >He(Thompson) could get on stage, >play 1952 Vincent Black Lightning, and exit for the night and I would >be happy. :) Hey--he could play it 10 times in a row, and Id be really happy. >I am also a huge Bob Mould fan. Have you heard his covers of Shoot >Out The Lights and Turning Of The Tide? Hmmm, will have to check that out. The Count: >another thought: how about an unadvertised napster server? one would >have >to use napigator/napster or a napster clone to get to it, but it >would >make >it relatively easy to share fegmaniax-related mp3s amongst ourselves. That sounds simple nuff for even a nontechie like me. And thanks for the good news that alot of the new stuff has been recorded. >kimberley signed bayard's dan bern ticket stub, so i presume they'll >sign >anything. But only if it moves? And thanks Russ for the Paperback Writer link that titled this mini-digest. Hello Jill-this list is usually only one digest a day, so soon maybe youll be able to get back to all those fun housekeeping chores.;-) Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:46:13 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: emergence of an invisible fan on 3/28/01 7:56 PM, Jill Brand at jlbrand@bu.edu wrote: > With that out of the way, let me introduce myself. My name is Jill (hi, > Jill) and I have been an addict since about 1982/83. In 1988, I went to > see Robyn for the last time at the Paradise in Boston. I believe that was > the April Fools Day show; that year April Fools Day coincided with both > the first night of Passover and with Good Friday. You can all just > imagine the Robynrant that resulted from that alignment of the stars > (sniggering from the audience as half of you probably have it on tape). That 4/1/88 show was my first Robyn gig, and I've got the tape to prove it. Great introduction, Jill. I think you've summed up a lot of our feelings! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:39:54 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Detroit/Chicago/see ya... Well, in a few hours the Soft Boys will be playing in Detroit! This is very exciting for me for obvious reasons. For not so obvious reasons, I'm looking foward to seeing Carissa, Eddie, Micheal and meeting Aaron. Indeed fegs are sweet people, although I haven't tasted one. Friday I'm off to the Metro, where my girlfriend will see Robyn for the first time. She really enjoyed Storefront Hitchcock on the big screen. So we'll see. Live is always better! Saturday I'm off to Peru for a week or so (I actually scheduled the vacation around the tour (loser)). I'm minidiscing both shows so I'll be ready to trade once I get back. It'll be hard to have all this SBs energy trapped in my physical and mental being and have no computer outlet to write a review and share experiences. I look forward to getting back and reading whats been happening at the shows and making some trades! May the bees buzz around your hearts. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:56:19 -0500 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: frumpling At 20:57 +0000 26-3-2001, In Praise Of Limestone wrote: >Brian wrote; >>My server's been acting really frumple >My slang antenna just went up. Frumple sounds great, it bumples >inside the mouth. Is this a new term Ive missed, or something of >your own coinage? I've been using it for years now; a quick check of the Jargon file, however, turns up naught. Alas! I'm pretty sure I didn't invent it, however, as most of the people around the office use it (presumably since before I got here), and no one has any problem parsing it when I use it, although that could be because of the onomatopetic quality of it. - -bjc - -- I hope I don't win / the rules say to bring a friend / I don't have any -- Haikuing for Space Ghost Contest Winner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:38:07 -0500 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Boston Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:14:50 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Cooke Subject: Soft Boys, Boston 26 March 2001 I got loads of requests for this gig, too many to accommodate personally. However, if I can get 4 or 5 people who I publicly announce my candidacy as one of these tape copiers. I further offer some ftp space on newts.org for this show or maybe some others. (I hope to put my meager mp3 collection up Real Soon Now anyway). Hello Fegs, I have been a feg since the early/mid 80's when I was college DJ although I don't think I saw a show until about 91 or 92. I was on this list in the early early days but was off for several years and back on mostly lurking the last 2. Anyway, it was a treat to meet people at the Boston show. A fellow feg who used to go to shows with me had prompted me to go to this show although she bagged out at the last minute. I decided to go along alone. I am glad I did. Meeting fegs was a lot of fun and the show was great. I won't bore you all with the details. I drove down in the snow from Newt Hampshire, I came, I met, I ate Pad Thai, I bought some feg stuff, I saw a show, I drove home in the snow. I did have one disturbing observation to make. From where I was standing, slightly stage right about 3 corpses from the front, there was a yellowish gel light directly behind Robyn. This would be fine but it summoned into view a large clump of otherwise invisible neck hair that protruded an inch or two away from our hero's neck. Anyone else notice this or am I the only one? jv <-- pining for the pork of the porcupine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:52:06 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Nine Concerts in as many days; or, the Soft Boys take the Eastern Seaboard On Thu, Mar 29, 2001, Bayard wrote: > Maxwell's, NJ, 3/23 > woj and eddie squeezed in at the last minute. Kimberley is the nicest guy > in the world. Maxwell's is very "rock and roll", as Eddie observed. the > place was pretty well packed. Cheers to Maxwell's for the $15 ticket > price - by far the lowest of the tour so far. i don't think they deal > with ticketmafia either. Maxwell's does deal with TickerBastard. :( > The Paradise, Boston, 3/26 > This place really IS a paradise. excellent layout, cool about taping, The Paradise IS a great venue, except for that freakin' column in the middle of the floor. Same for Lupo's in Providence. > We had very good Thai food before the gig at the restaurant next to > the venue, and so did the Soft Boys. (yes, we left them alone. > Kimberley and Matthew waved to us, though.) You know something, I think that every artist who plays The Paradise eats at that Thai Restaurant. One time I went to see The Tea Party there some of them were eating there before the show as well. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:07:07 -0800 From: The Great Quail Subject: Feg Fotos! I spent the last hour or so putting together a simple photo album of the New York & Boston stops made by Crazy Eddie's Feg caravan.... The URL is: http://www.w-rabbit.com/dumbstuff/feg2001 And really, the site's nothing too pretty to look at! It's just bare-bones HTML, but you have the option of going through the pictures as a slide show or individually by description. Some of them really look good -- highlights include Carissa riding a Frog, Woj dancing in the snow, several group photos, a sneak shot of Robyn in a Thai restaurant, photos of Boston Fegs, and pictures of the Soft Boys in conversation.... There may also be a few errors or typos, I really didn't spend much time on this. Maybe I will revisit it for cosmetic changes later! Crazy Unka Nick, feel free to poach what you wish! - --Quail - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com A book is more than a verbal structure or series of verbal structures; it is the dialogue it establishes with its reader and the intonation it imposes upon his voice and the changing and durable images it leaves in his memory. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships. --J.L. Borges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:59:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: "Greatest fucking line in rock & roll history" mini-digest >Eb, you lucky woof, Cage, Thompson and soon The SBs. Well...I *did* see John Cage, but that was quite a few years ago. ;) Eb, who enjoyed "Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai" last night ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:27:30 -0800 From: Mark Gloster Subject: re: can anybody play guitar? I figured that I'd send this to the list in hopes that others would find this helpful. It is entirely possible that I am insane, confused, or just plain wrong, but I really think that this is mostly really good advice... Based upon trying many times to play before actually being at all successful at it, here are my suggestions: 1. very few people can stand learning scales, reading music, and just arbitrary chords. It is much easier to learn songs you like. Most of popular music is or can be described in easily learn able chords- so you can learn on songs you like. I picked up the guitar to learn other people's songs but it took me years and years before I actually got to it because I really enjoyed writing on it. I think that having learned and figured out and read other people's songs made my playing get much better than writing my own, but I wouldn't take back that step. I think it has more to do with what you want to do. 2. if you have the good fortune to find a pliable instructor, you should guide the lesson. You're paying, get them to teach you what you want to know. A good instructor will help you learn what you want while helping you to avoid getting into bad habits. 3. get a guitar tuner and tune your guitar often. It will teach you to hear in tune and how to get back in tune. Almost every song sounds better in tune- and those that don't you don't want to play. 4. acoustic: if you are buying an acoustic, get a good one. One that is playable and will sound good to your ear forever. If you buy a crappy guitar you won't play it and it will put your fingers in pain. I think _most_ dreadnoughts (the most common acoustic guitar shape) sound muddy and just awful for strumming. If you like that shape of guitar body, if the box (not the top) is maple or koa it will sound good. Conversely a very small guitar body shouldn't be made of maple because it is too bright sounding. 5. electric: there are hundreds of really great buys on cheap electrics. It should at least sound good clean, you can make almost any guitar sound good with distortion. It should be able to stay in tune, too. 6. buy and use an electronic metronome. Rhythm, I believe, is the biggest difference between the good players and the rest. 7. play with conviction, even if you suck at first. It will also get you through brief periods when your hands don't want to work right. 8. listen to your playing. Record it if you can. Avoid being too critical, but make yourself listen. Let yourself enjoy the process. If you listen well to what you play, your ears will tell you what to work on. 9. focus/discipline: unless your plan is to replace Bobby Fripp in King Crimson, too much focus and discipline can be a very negative thing. It is healthy for most people to avoid associating creativity with musts and shoulds and thou shalts. It is far better to say something like: I'm going to pick up the guitar every day (even if I'm not going to make progress that day) and always work to be better. This is how long term gains happen. BTW to avoid a possibly reasonable strike, I am not a guitar god of any sort. The sum of my talent, skill, and practice would scarcely land me in a musical purgatory. These are merely a few things that would have made me enjoy learning more and would have gotten me down the path a lot faster. Also, if voice is what you are better at, it is much easier to think of guitar as your accompaniment, so you don't have to think of it as the central driving force of what you do. It is also an amazing little orchestra in a box and a little creativity and arrangement can bring amazing joy. Happies all, - -Markg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:55:17 -0500 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Boston I just wrote: I publicly announce my candidacy as one of these tape copiers. I ^^^^ further offer some ftp space on newts.org for this show or maybe some others. (I hope to put my meager mp3 collection up Real Soon Now anyway). Kind of shows my old-school roots... I have made it into the 90's with a CD burner and really meant I can copy CD's. I can also dupe cassette and 4mm DS3 and 8mm tar tapes... This does remind me that I have some of the old "tape tree" tapes if anyone is interested. I guess I might have something to trade after all. jv <- a cluster of baboons ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:55:14 -0600 From: "Mike wells" Subject: Fw: Chicago Meeting Place Again for me cool on the Gingerman, look forward to meeting all of you. As promised earlier: if you're in town earlier in the day and are looking for drinking / dining selections - * Doc's "Goose Island" suggestion is a good one, Chicago's own brew and they used to have a tasty portabello-mushroom thingy. 3550 N. Clark. * Never been in it but there should be a vegetarian place right there by Metro called "Fuel." There was a criminally-overpriced seafood joint right there as well, don't know if "Fuel" took it over or not. I ate (and got hammered) in the seafood place b4 the last Robyn show, qutie tasty but again $$. * For beer and veggies, try "The Village Tap" it's at 2055 W. Roscoe, just west of Damen (773) 883-0817. This is SW of Metro a bit, but I think you can park easier over there and hop a cab. * Plus there's the usual trendy bars South on Clark St near Wrigley Field, for those of you into that sort of thing. Should be humming on Friday night after the show. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "La Becca" To: "David Librik" ; ; ; Cc: ; ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:51 AM Subject: Re: Chicago Meeting Place > Dolph and Becca bought tickets for the following personas: > > Dolph & Becca, Carissa, Eddie "fuckin" Tews, David W & guest, & Librik. > > Dolph will get to the The Metro 'roundabout 7pm and Becca doesn't get off > work until then. So Becca will have her own ticket and will go straight to > The Metro. If the aforementioned group isn't already assembled at The > Gingerman, then I guess Dolph will be stuck outside of The Metro, waiting > for all y'all to pick up your tickets from him. Poor schmo. > > It sounds to me as though everyone involved in ticket pick-upping is > planning on being in town early and therefore should report to the > Gingerman for theirn tickets. That way, shortly after 7pm, we can all > amble through the freshly-opened doors, get somewhat of a good standing > area, and revel in the delights of St. Ace, and later on Robyn, the Muppet, > the Molester, and Matthew. > > so sayth the lord. > well, Dolph & Becca anyway. > but it sounds better. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #97 *******************************