From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #77 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 15 2001 Volume 10 : Number 077 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Prog [steve ] Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again [JH3 ] Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again [hbrandt ] Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again ["J. Brown" ] Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again ["matt sewell" ] Tale In Hard Time [Robcow@aol.com] SF Gate: Kristin Hersh has Guts; bluegrass fans' tough luck; ODC turns 30 and more. ["a lurker" ] UM Vinyl ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Two Drummers Drumming ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: badges and misquotes [Scary Mary ] Re: UM Vinyl [recount chocula ] Re: [Ebmaniax] Hersh @ Borders [recount chocula ] Re: UM Vinyl & Fletchers tickets [mel@scw.org] Re: UM Vinyl & Fletchers tickets [mel@scw.org] Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again ["ross taylor" ] Re: drummers n' poets [Terrence Marks ] Re: [Ebmaniax] Malkmus [Aaron Mandel ] Videos on UM.com ["brian nupp" ] Re: Videos on UM.com [recount chocula ] Re: [Ebmaniax] Malkmus [Jonathan Moren ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:34:22 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Prog Michael R Godwin: >Tull surely qualify as prog with all those dodgy time signatures, though. IMO, that's pushing it quite a bit. >>And speaking of ELO, Move fans should check out the great lost Roy >>Wood/Wizzard album MAIN STREET. Recorded in 1976, but not released >>until last year. >What went wrong? Did Wizzard split up around 1976? Was it killed off by >punk, or what? Record company, although Wizzard had already ceased to exist as a working band. - - Steve __________ I'd sit down and meditate but my ass is on fire. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:52:15 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again >Besides Jim Morrison and Patti Smith, is there anyone else >prominent who is known to insert spoken (perhaps improvised) >poetry into song performances? And I'm talking about "poetry," >not "storytelling" a la Robyn. William Shatner? - - JH3 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 22:37:55 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again Desi: > >Besides Jim Morrison and Patti Smith, is there anyone else > >prominent who is known to insert spoken (perhaps improvised) > >poetry into song performances? And I'm talking about "poetry," > >not "storytelling" a la Robyn. T. Waits /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:56:52 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, hbrandt wrote: > Desi: > > > >Besides Jim Morrison and Patti Smith, is there anyone else > > >prominent who is known to insert spoken (perhaps improvised) > > >poetry into song performances? And I'm talking about "poetry," > > >not "storytelling" a la Robyn. > > T. Waits Waits strikes more as story telling can you sight some particular songs? Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Put your faith in death because it's free" -Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:55:18 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again > > >Besides Jim Morrison and Patti Smith, is there anyone else > > >prominent who is known to insert spoken (perhaps improvised) > > >poetry into song performances? And I'm talking about "poetry," > > >not "storytelling" a la Robyn. > T. Waits Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA wrote: > Waits strikes more as story telling can you sight some particular songs? I would immediately sight...er, cite "Step Right Up" as an example of spoken (beat?) poetry, which Waits was known to heavily improvise in live performances. Yes, Waits occasionally riffs "stories" off the top of his head (ala Robyn) in a live situation, but I'm thinking of songs like "Frank's Wild Years", "The Ocean Doesn't Want Me Today" and "What's He Building?" which are somewhat similar to the Jim Morrison/Doors tracks like "Horse Latitudes" or "My Wild Love". Waits tells stories in song as well ("Big Joe and Phantom 309", Jockey Full of Bourbon", "Soldier's Things") but "poem" songs like Morrison and Patti Smith are known for and that (correct me if I'm wrong) Eb was referring to remind me of "Christmas Card From A Hooker In Minneapolis", "Emotional Weather Report" and I'm sure many others from the Waits catalog, especially when you hear the live recordings. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:54:39 -0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again E-bro: >Besides Jim Morrison and Patti Smith, is there anyone else prominent who is >known to insert spoken (perhaps improvised) poetry into song performances? >And I'm talking about "poetry," not "storytelling" a la Robyn. > Julian Cope (eg. Reynard The Fox, Know (Cut My Friend Down))Funkadelic (FYMAYAWF, Maggotbrain albums)The Fall (everything they've done(!))Can (Father Cannot Yell)Gong (Certainly all over Camembert electric)Me!(Justice) Some choices, that, I know, might sound dodgy now, but, well, you know....CheersMatt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:36:38 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: PFG&Y/JHC/XTC/etc >ross taylor wrote: >> >> >There was a prog rock 'Top 10' on UK-TV last week. >> >> Where was Procol Harum? I'm a Procoholic. > >nowhere. The program's method of choosing bands is by total sales -- so >dinos that go on for ever got highest up. > >I think the top three were Pink Floyd, Genesis, and Yes. Bleah for the >first two. I tend to think of both PF and Genesis as Retrog. That is, they started out progressive, then reverted to AOR. To go back from being progressive is surelya retrograde step, hence "Retrog". King Crimson, however, have tended to keep expanding in different unexpected directions. But I bet they were unplaced in that poll. Re: JHC, I love "Jehovahkill" and "20 Mothers", but wasn't too taken with "Interpreter", "Autogeddon", or "Peggy Suicide". But what I want to knwow is... am I the only person around who loved "My nation underground"??? And since we're talking about tangential bands/artists that may appeal to Feghs, I got into a discussion the other day about the XTC song "Grass"... it suddenly occurred to me that it may be an anti-drugs song, rather than a pro-drugs song or (naively) a ditty about rolling around in a meadow. Is it just me, or can "shock me too the things we used to do on grass" be interpreted as "we used to do some pretty stupid things when we were wasted"? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:53:36 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: badges and misquotes >The original line, delivered by banditos posing as federales in TTOTSM was >"we don't have to show you no stinkin' badges." In Blazing Saddles, as they >were passing out deputy badges to the posse, the joke was "we don't need no >stinkin' badges". So the line as quoted is from blazing saddles. the real question is... I've seen a parody of this at one point involving badgers, possibly on a "Comic strip presents...", but I can't remember which one. It wasn't "Didn't you kill my brother?", although that did such classic lines as "you should always put a dead badger on a head wound". Anyone help??? DYKMB was, as Ross synchronicitously pointed out, about >Bicycle Thieves-- >I believe there are a few other apocryphal quotes like that: > >"Ooo, you dirty rat!" >"Why don't you come up and see me, sometime?" >"I vant to be alone" >.... "Beam me up Scotty" also belongs on that list [1]. Is there a name for this type of recalled non-quote? >Not sure about the Cagney, but I'm very nearly sure that the Mae West >quote is verbatim from an old WC Fields movie... ISTR West actually says "Why don't you come up sometime, and see me", which is a better double entendre anyway. James [1] well, someone may have said it in one of the movies, but Kirk never said it in the original TV series - it was usually something like "three to beam up" James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:32:27 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Malkmus Eb wrote: > > Later this week, Nelly Furtado is performing *two* nights at the El Rey. What's the deal with NF? The album's getting pushed as the next great odd thing since Beck, but the single that's getting excessive airplay is a harmlessly charming piece of poppy fluff. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:48:29 EST From: Robcow@aol.com Subject: Tale In Hard Time from Mr. Eb: >The band also played a cover of Fairport >Convention's *exquisite* "Tale in Hard Time,"... >Of course, the Jicks version wasn't >as good -- Malkmus is no Sandy Denny FWIW: Ian Matthews sang the lead on this classic. Sandy's harmonies are pretty far in the background. Great tune though! Roberta (See y'all next week...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:46 -0800 From: "a lurker" Subject: SF Gate: Kristin Hersh has Guts; bluegrass fans' tough luck; ODC turns 30 and more. first item may be of interest (it won't let me delete the rest) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This article was sent to you by someone who found it on SF Gate. The original article can be found on SFGate.com here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2001/03/14/lisick.DTL - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, March 14, 2001 (James Hoadley Inc.) Kristin Hersh has Guts; bluegrass fans' tough luck; ODC turns 30 and more. Beth Lisick, Special to SF Gate Last Friday evening at her in-store performance at Borders Union Square, Kristin Hersh looked every bit the folkie ingenue. Perched on a stool wearing a short, girly skirt, cashmere sweater and chunky black boots, she appeared to be every record exec's dream of a confident, attractive li'l number who could move a few records just because she's, you know, cute. But when she opened her mouth and began to sing, her 17 years of touring, recording and oft-discussed mental health battles came out like a whip cracking, whirling among the crowd that had packed itself between the bookshelves on the third floor. It seemed an unlikely place for the former Throwing Muses frontwoman to be performing, but her devoted SF following was in full force. Which could explain why the Rhode Island native will return here the weekend of May 25 for something she calls the Gut Pageant. Over three days, she will play three solo acoustic gigs at Noe Valley Ministry, plus a Throwing Muses reunion at Slim's. Special combo tickets are available to see multiple shows, sit in on the band's soundcheck, join them for a "meet and greet" lunch on Saturday and a Continental breakfast Sunday. It's newsworthy enough that the Mission-based dance company ODC/San Francisco will celebrate its 30th anniversary season next month, but co-artistic director KT Nelson has landed another live one for the premiere of her latest work, "House of Cards." To score her new piece about the domestic implications of obsession, ODC has commissioned Marie Daulne of international a capella sensation Zap Mama. Daulne, who fled Zaire (then the Belgian Congo) with her family after war broke out, sought refuge with a tribe of Pygmies before moving to Brussels. Expect a touch of Zap Mama's rhythmic drive, which comes from Afro-Cuban, Central African, gospel, soul and blues music, as well as a richly theatrical and, sources say, sometimes surreal soundtrack. "House of Cards" premieres in April at Yerba Buena. If arena-rock-loving kids around the country spit up their grape soda over Insane Clown Posse, it has to be worth an anthropological dive into the mosh pit to check out what arises when San Francisco's own grappling sideshow, Incredibly Strange Wrestling, goes on out on the road with the Vans Warped Tour this summer. ISW's flashy Mexican wrestling masks have to be better for adolescent skin than that creepy (and time-intensive!) clown makeup. Bad news for local bluegrass lovers. For the past 25 years, the Fifth String music store in Berkeley has been the place to jam on Thursday nights, but no longer. Citing obscene PG&E rates and the cost of paying an employee to stay on late, owner Larry Bowen halted the series last month. Cato's Ale House in Oakland has also discontinued its Saturday night bluegrass show, apparently because it got so darn popular the wait staff couldn't navigate the crowd to deliver food. However, if you're on the bluegrass hunt on Monday nights, check out Piedmont Avenue's Baja Taqueria. Word is that when that gets too crowded, the players just move two doors down to the laundromat and keep on playing. Note to entrepreneurs: The Pick and Grin Wash and Fold. A mysterious e-mail slid through this week from a group calling itself A.S.S. (Artists' Secret Society). Proclaiming a dedication to "entertainment as civil disobedience" the group is calling for likeminded members to join its ranks at its first public event next Tuesday at 8 p.m. at the Paradise Lounge. The e-mail missive says: "You must be willing to: Wear almost anything; Work almost any time; Play for completely nothing; Receive no recognition whatsoever! If this sounds like something you or a fellow artist is already accustomed to, come on down or get more information by sending an email to artist_ss@yahoo.com" Creative political action campaign? Or just a publicity stunt by a desperate rock band playing a really early set? Buzz Town is on the case. Bite-Size Bits Who has the story on this one? Apparently, an anonymous guerilla marching band has been showing up in full red regalia, tall hats and everything, busting through dance clubs uninvited. The lead drum major is reportedly a "skinny bearded man" wielding a baton and a megaphone. Be the first reader to provide the Quicktime video! ... Third Eye Blind frontman Stephan Jenkins made The New York Daily News last week. Seems the singer, who has recently been officially relieved of Charlize Theron duty, was entertaining a "bevy of Playmates" after his band's performance at shoe designer Steve Madden's party at the Hard Rock in Las Vegas. ... If this gossip columnist were deaf, how would she know that Adam Levy is such a stellar guitar player? By looking at the other guitar players in his audience, of course. Last Thursday's roll call at Levy's Bruno's show included Jim Campilongo, The Mermen's Jim Thomas and LA avant-garde kingpin Nels Cline, who played earlier in the evening. ... If you're tired of leaving your 40 oz. of Olde English out on the sidewalk while you catch a meal, head down to new cheap eats hotspot Emmy's Spaghetti Shack at in the Outer Mission. You can order one right off the menu. Brushes with fame? Petty gossip? Random information? Let me know. Beth Lisick is the author of Monkey Girl (Manic D Press) and like lots of other people, she has a band. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 2001 James Hoadley Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:07:10 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: PFG&Y/JHC/XTC/etc James Dignan: > And since we're talking about tangential bands/artists that may appeal to > Feghs, I got into a discussion the other day about the XTC song "Grass"... > it suddenly occurred to me that it may be an anti-drugs song, > rather than a > pro-drugs song or (naively) a ditty about rolling around in a > meadow. Is it > just me, or can "shock me too the things we used to do on grass" be > interpreted as "we used to do some pretty stupid things when we were > wasted"? Colin has always insisted that it's just about a park near Swindon, and not about dope at all. It's hard to imagine he wasn't aware of the dual interpretation, but this *is* Colin, who is nothing if not out of step with the times. There's a quick discussion in the Song Stories book that supports this but I'm too baked to look it up right now. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:40:49 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: UM Vinyl Got my Vinyl copy in the mail from CD Now yesterday--what a great package! I'm thinking about buying a special Underwater Moonlight carrying case so I can take it with me wherever I go. I sniffed the vinyl and it didn't seem to have that ol' familiar smell. Storefront had that smell, this one was nearly odorless. I love that the original album stands alone on one record. I also like the fact that the label emulates the original armageddon lable, with "this side"/"the other side" track listing. Nothing cool scratched into the inner portion of vinyl. Used to be you'd find little messages there sometimes. The poster looks great. Anyone here *not* get one? 1500 posters isn't a lot. (been wondering lately how many people are on this list. I think the last time I recall that stat being posted it was around 400 people, but that was a buncha years ago) Zip Zip sounds kinda cool at 78 RPM. Anyone else notice that the sleeves (including the cover) all have that deterioration/tear in the center of the bottom edge? You normally see that on older albums that have seen a lot of use. Drag that my brand new copy came this way but I assume bunches of them are like this. Looks like either the records were thrust into the sleeves with too much force or, more than likely, the box they were shipped in was dropped rather than set down. Probably a byproduct of that 150 gram vinyl Can't wait for the CD to arrive. >>I can't recall if I've *ever* seen a band with two full drum sets >>before. (Probably one is slipping my mind -- who else did this, besides >>the GDead?) Hey, another chance to mention the concert for Bangla Desh! Ringo & Jim Keltner I saw King Grimson last night. The bastard and the rest of his King friends beat Shark Nolan & co. There was the usual tc sighting as well. I'm late for work. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:20:25 -0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Two Drummers Drumming > >>I can't recall if I've *ever* seen a band with two full drum sets > >>before. (Probably one is slipping my mind -- who else did this, besides > >>the GDead?) > Didn't Adam and Ants include 2 full drum kits? Genesis must have used two kits live when Phil decided he was a singer, not a drummer but reserving the right to play when he wanted to. Brian _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:35:12 -0500 From: Scary Mary Subject: Re: badges and misquotes At 11:53 PM 3/15/2001 +1300, James Dignan wrote: >the real question is... I've seen a parody of this at one point involving >badgers, possibly on a "Comic strip presents...", but I can't remember >which one. It wasn't "Didn't you kill my brother?", although that did such >classic lines as "you should always put a dead badger on a head wound". >Anyone help??? The Comic Strip Presents episode you mention is "A Fistful of Travellers' Cheques." I remember this as being a parody of the spaghetti westerns. As I've only seen it once or twice, and many years ago as well, it may have been a parody of TTOTSM and/or Blazing Saddles. A search on the web doesn't turn up much - the following is all I could find: A Fistful of Travellers' Cheques Carlos and Miguel are Englishmen obsessed with the mystique of the Old West-- would-be gunmen ever in search of a brawl. Travelling the countryside by public rail on a fantasy holiday, in costumes straight out of a Spaghetti Western, they hook up with spunky Australian tourists, a hippie hitchhiker, and a mass murderer who works in an abattoir but dresses as a matador. Starring: Keith Allen as Mr Bastardos / Adrian Edmondson as Billy / Dawn French as Jackie / Rik Mayall as Carlos / Nigel Planer as Paul / Peter Richardson as Miguel / Jennifer Saunders as Shona / Written by: Peter Richardson, Pete Richens and Rik Mayall / Directed by: Bob Spiers S.mary n.p. David Bowie Hunky Dory n.w. sunburn from 5 days in Jamaica ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:08:41 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: UM Vinyl when we last left our heroes, Russ Reynolds exclaimed: >I sniffed the vinyl and it didn't seem to have that ol' familiar smell. >Storefront had that smell, this one was nearly odorless. that reminds me: there's a copy of the storefront vinyl at cutler's here in new haven. if anyone still needs it, let me know and i'd be happy to pick it up for you. neither cutler's nor exile had the um vinyl, but there should be a copy in on friday for me. wheee! >been wondering lately how many people are on this list. I think the >last time I recall that stat being posted it was around 400 people, but that >was a buncha years ago) 278 unique addresses on the reflector and the digest. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:01:06 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Hersh @ Borders when we last left our heroes, Eb exclaimed: >*voice* again." I asked her, "You probably get this question a lot, but is >Tanya working on anything...besides motherhood?" She said Tanya does have >an album finished, but is between labels and looking for a deal. for what it's worth, at the first gut pageant in cambridge, tanya came on stage and play on three songs ("not too soon", "honey chain" and "counting backwards"). despite being out of practice, she did a pretty good job on both front. fred abong played on those songs as well, completing "throwing muses mark 1.5", as kristin introduced the line-up. unfortunately, leslie langston wasn't around that weekend else she would have been there as well. (the only time i've ever seen leslie play was with belly before they had a regular bassist.) woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:29:19 -0000 From: mel@scw.org Subject: Re: UM Vinyl & Fletchers tickets > The poster looks great. Anyone here *not* get one? 1500 posters isn't a > lot. (been wondering lately how many people are on this list. I think the > last time I recall that stat being posted it was around 400 people, but that > was a buncha years ago) > Sadly, there was no poster in my copy. I got it at the independent record and bookstore chain where I work. We only got in 11 copies so I wasn't counting on the poster. I expect that the bigger chains ended up with more. What does it look like? Other thing which may or may not affect people on this list Fletchers isn't selling advance tickets at the club. You have to get them through the evil Ticketmaster. Mel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:29:57 -0000 From: mel@scw.org Subject: Re: UM Vinyl & Fletchers tickets > The poster looks great. Anyone here *not* get one? 1500 posters isn't a > lot. (been wondering lately how many people are on this list. I think the > last time I recall that stat being posted it was around 400 people, but that > was a buncha years ago) > Sadly, there was no poster in my copy. I got it at the independent record and bookstore chain where I work. We only got in 11 copies so I wasn't counting on the poster. I expect that the bigger chains ended up with more. What does it look like? Other thing which may or may not affect people on this list Fletchers isn't selling advance tickets at the club. You have to get them through the evil Ticketmaster. Mel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:44:31 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re: tappin' the Feg thinktank again For starters, on one end of the spectrum, the Moody Blues on the other the Virgin Fugs (sometimes w/ Allen Ginsberg). Procol Harum used to have Keith Reid read a bit on stage. Probably tons of hippies did that some. It could be a long list. The Clash used Allen Ginsberg again. Allen Ginsberg "sang" w/ his own punk band. Stipe read the liner notes to a record on "The Voice of Harold." Then there's the thing of dropping down into a speaking voice mid-song. Springsteen did that on "Jungle Land" & elsewhere? Joe Stummer did his Taxi Driver monologue in "Red Angels." Tom Verlaine did that a bit, things like "Souvenir From a Dream." It's almost a signature for St. Julian Cope, a la "Reynard the Fox." But maybe "prominant" knocks some of these people out. The Last Poets were marketed like a musical group. Which brings up Rap, but I don't know that. Gil-Scott Heron might be more on topic, mixing recitation & singing. Linton Kwasi Johnson wasn't totally unknown in the 80s, & did some pretty poetry-oriented toasting-- & published a book. Laurie Anderson had a hit song, after all. Tom Waits. Captain Beefheart. Didn't Byrne start some songs w/ fractured talk, at least live on the Speaking in Tongues tour? Then funny voices. The Mothers, tho the best of that, like "Idiot Bastard Son," is probably sound samples, & Bonzos i.e. "The Shirt Event." Lots of folks--Pavement at the end of "Unseen Power of a Picket Fence" w/ that "Asa, the wagons are coming!" business. 50s do-wop, where the song gets quiet & some guy recites "Oh my darling! If you knew! How I really feel! About you!" What's joking around? What's Rap? What's poetry? What's new that sounds like this? Ross Taylor free verse while the supply lasts Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: drummers n' poets I've seen plenty of stuff with a full trap kit augmented by assorted percussion players, of course, but I think the Sun Ra Arkestra had two "drummers" in addition to percussionists. Seems like I'm missing one (in addition to KC) that I've seen, but maybe it was just a no-name local act. The Fall had two drummers for a while, but I never saw them back then. Artists inserting poetry: is Jim Carroll "prominent?" uh, ani difranco? - -- d. np lois maffeo & brandon canty _the union themes_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:53:38 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: drummers n' poets IIRC, Yes had two drummers on their last tour (and, I think, on their Union tour as well). And, of course, one of my better vinyl finds, was Manny Alban's The Drum Suite, featuring written parts for four drummers. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com The Nice (an organization for comic strips) http://nice.purrsia.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:48:29 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Malkmus On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Eb wrote: > But still, I can't recall if I've *ever* seen a band with two full > drum sets before. (Probably one is slipping my mind -- who else did > this, besides the GDead?) The Fall, in their first heyday. they're also, as someone mentioned, a candidate for poetry-inserters, though the line between song lyrics, improvised poetry and chewing out bandmates is pretty thin when you can't tell what he's saying. the Blue Aeroplanes' Gerard Langley is another one. > Malkmus is no Sandy Denny. yeah, i remember back in 1992, that was all anyone had to say about him. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:53:12 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Videos on UM.com There are a couple more videos on the web site. Could someone tell me how to play these. What do I need to download? Thanks Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:35:46 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: Videos on UM.com when we last left our heroes, brian nupp exclaimed: >Could someone tell me how to play these. What do I need to download? to view the videos in-line, you need the quicktime plug-in from apple . if you want to view the videos outside of yer browser, view the html source, download the file referenced in the tag, and view it with the quicktime player. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:20:35 +0100 From: Jonathan Moren Subject: Re: [Ebmaniax] Malkmus At 17:32 2001-03-14 -0700, you wrote: >-- one of the drummers played keyboards about half the time. But still, I >can't recall if I've *ever* seen a band with two full drum sets before. >(Probably one is slipping my mind -- who else did this, besides the GDead?) Frank Zappa ca. 1973 (Ralph Humphrey and Chester Thompson, in addition to percussionist Ruth Underwood). ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #77 *******************************