From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #61 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 5 2001 Volume 10 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- It's the Eye of the Ti-i-i-ger! [lj lindhurst ] Re: How come no one has yet said... [Terrence Marks ] soft boys tickets ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Greasy Quiff ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] I drink therefore I am ["Russ Reynolds" ] I drink therefore I am ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: I drink therefore I am [Eb ] Re: Greasy Quiff ["Ben" ] Re: It's the Eye of the Ti-i-i-ger! [Tom Clark ] croc-a-doodle-do [Motherfucking Asshole ] off topic- saving streaming video [Mike Hooker ] Re: off topic- saving streaming video [Tom Clark ] Stolen Riffs ["J. Brown" ] Stolen Riffs ["J. Brown" ] Greasy Quiff/Jet Set Flier [toast@indy.net] Re: beck [Michael R Godwin ] Re: off topic- saving streaming video [recount chocula ] Re: off topic- saving streaming video [Christopher Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:11:10 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: It's the Eye of the Ti-i-i-ger! Oh good lord! What did TINA on SURVIVOR just say? "Stop it! Stop it! You two need a time out!" And hey look, I mentioned SURVIVOR...! By not mentioning it so far, I have therefore made you discuss it. I thought watching the guy get all burned up on Survivor was one of the most GRUESOME things I have ever seen. Oh, it was HORRIBLE! Just thinking about it is making me cringe. I spent half the time with my hands covering my eyes, peeping out between my fingers (and only dirty-open-wound Bandaid commercials make me do that). >Nelson: >>Itchin'-to-have-a-laff phases, more accurately. Sorry if it was (again) >>at your "expense". > >I saw this coming, at least two days ago. It's always the same pattern, >when Hal lapses back into ChildishTroll mode. A crescendoing series of >digs. Eb finally responds to one. Hal crows, "Lookie! Eb noticed me! I >wiiiiiiin!" I give him this lollipop, and he licks it quietly for a few >months until it's gone and he needs another. Endless loop. (In this case, I >suspect it's just redirected bitterness over the bruising he took in his >Comic Book Guy thread. Tsk.) > >Does anyone else get the real "laff," here? I write a post about a concert, >and consciously minimize an allusion to "Survivor" because I think it might >start a tangential thread. Hal tries to use this allusion to start a >tangential thread, *then* says I'm deluded/egotistical for presupposing the >allusion might start such a thread. Now *that's* funny. > >EbNotAppearingInThisSketchForTheRestOfTheDay > >now playing: UCLA's loss. Phooey. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:53:12 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: How come no one has yet said... On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, hbrandt wrote: > > ...Happy Birthday Robyn? > > Happy Birthday, Robyn! > Happy Birthday, Andy Metcalfe, too! Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Greasy Quiff On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Russ Reynolds wrote: > This is the record Robyn Hitchcock was supposed to have played on, isn't it? > From what little I remember of the thread from about five years back, the > album was horrible and Robyn has denied any involvement. I also recall that > somebody on this list (Terry?) had obtained a copy, or maybe just a cassette > dub. Aidan Merritt had a copy, I remember that much. I don't, but I know one of the feg-women had a dub of it but can't quite remember which (Traci? One of the Susans?) Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:09:07 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: soft boys tickets Total Paid: 30.05 Ticketmaster inflated the price of the ticket to just over 150%. Doesn't that basically make them scalpers? Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen.com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:27:56 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Greasy Quiff >From: "Russ Reynolds" > >Toby Jug >ALBUM: Wow, Toby Job is right above Toby Twirl, one of my favorite bands on The British Psychedelic Trip compilations. I rank their song "Romeo and Juliet" up there with Tintern Abbey's "Vacuum Cleaner". "Toffee Apple Sunday" is a real good song, too. >1. GREASY QUIFF (Private Pressing) 1969 R5 > >This is the record Robyn Hitchcock was supposed to have played on, isn't it? >From what little I remember of the thread from about five years back, the >album was horrible and Robyn has denied any involvement. I asked Robyn about that album myself (in one of those Internet chats he did a few years ago) and he said he'd never heard of it, fwiw. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:17:34 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: I drink therefore I am brian nupp oh so subtly joked: > I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers, which prompted: > huh? and > what? and >you've obviously never been to a bay area fegparty. and > You need to pay more attention to some of my slurrish posts...... and > are you on crack? and > you wanna step outside and say that, fucker? and > I think we're ALL drinkers on this list, aren't we? And > so on and so forth... I'm all for subtle read-between-the-lines humor and I think most of us are pretty good at picking up on stuff like that, but it looks like that line probably needed a ;) or SOMETHING. Because if there's one thing we fegs take serously, it's our drinking. > lj, avowed non-drinker you're not fooling anyone, you know... - -rUss "Rule number four: I don't want to catch ANYBODY not drinking." - Bruce. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:53:20 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: I drink therefore I am Brian Nupp oh so subtly joked: >I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers which prompted cries of: > Huh? and > What? and > Are you kidding? and > what list are YOU reading? and > You need to pay more attention to some of my slurrish posts.... and > you wanna step outside and say that, fucker? and > I thought we were ALL drinkers? and > so on and so forth. I enjoy subtle read-between-the-lines facetious humor as much as the next guy but I would say this one probably needed a ;) at the very least, because if there's one thing we fegs take serioiusly it's our drinking. > lj, avowed non-drinker You're not fooling anyone, you know... - -rUss "Rule Four: I don't want to catch ANYBODY not drinking" -- Bruce. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:12:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: I drink therefore I am I don't think I've been "impaired-drunk" since a friend's wedding in the early '90s. I did have a beer on New Year's Eve, though...woo! Those rockin' Romantics must've brought out the party animal in me. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:16:40 -0500 From: "Ben" Subject: Re: Greasy Quiff > [1] "when you're in love with a beautiful woman, you watch your ass." > there, happy now? Didn't Robyn and Grant play this at one of our Iota shows? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:29:19 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: It's the Eye of the Ti-i-i-ger! on 3/4/01 8:11 AM, lj lindhurst at ljl@w-rabbit.com wrote: > I thought watching the guy get all burned up on Survivor was one of > the most GRUESOME things I have ever seen. Oh, it was HORRIBLE! I thought it was great, and I'm sure the pig he so happily slaughtered would agree with me. RE: Drinking - I've been drinking a bottle of Francis Coppola Merlot '98 all weekend. Dunno why - the rain possibly. Fegmania rises, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:24:09 -0800 From: Motherfucking Asshole Subject: croc-a-doodle-do hey, advance crocodile tix are on sale after all. $17.88 = total, $2. 88 = service charge. . with san fran. tickets coming on sale this morning, i *believe* that that leaves only vancouver yet to go on sale. i notice that the minders are playing a different venue in minneapolis the same night as the soft boys, and that doors are two hours later. however, it looks as though the minders are opening (for fuck, who headlined the neutral milk hotel/elf power show here a few years ago. they were pretty good). "Left out in the cold by 1980's punk rock, this British band regroups 20 years later." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:54:07 -0500 From: Mike Hooker Subject: off topic- saving streaming video hi, has anyone successfully saved a streaming video to their hard drive? i want to save some concerts from virtuetv.com and need to know if its possible and how. thanks! see my music trading page: http://pages.zdnet.com/mikehooker/hookstradingpage have fun, Mike Hooker ______________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 21:51:40 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: off topic- saving streaming video on 3/4/01 2:54 PM, Mike Hooker at mhooker@optonline.net wrote: > hi, > has anyone successfully saved a streaming video to their hard drive? i > want to save some concerts from virtuetv.com and need to know if its > possible and how. > It's not really possible using off the shelf means. Streaming video client software like Real and Quicktime essentially just buffer up small amounts of the data stream before passing it directly to the video hardware. You would then have to intercept that stream and redirect it to the filesystem. Perhaps there is a hack out there somewhere, but I've never heard of one. Good luck! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:37:35 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: [so off] MP3-CD Players My personal CD player's antishock has packed in, so now it's relegated to kitchen duty. I was thinking about getting one of those portable MP3 players, but their cost/capacity isn't so great. How nice it would be, I thought, if you could get a discman type thing that'd play CD-Rs of MP3s. And it seems you can; there are loads of the things from many manufacturers. Are these any good? The Memorex MPD8505CP should be under 100 quid if there's (a) justice in this world. I'd like to be able to have most of Robyn's work with me when I'm out walking. Stewart (not starting to freeze -- this office sits at just under 80 F) - -- Stewart C. Russell Senior Analyst, Dictionary Division stewart@ref.collins.co.uk HarperCollins Publishers use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:34:23 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Stolen Riffs This has been bugging me for quite a while any input would be much appreciated. Both Nick Lowe's My Heart Hurts and Marshal Crenshaw's Mary Anne have the same basic riff. Both songs came out in 1982 on Nick's album Nick the Knife and Marshall's self titled disc. Does any one know if one of them specifically lifted the riff from the other or maybe if they both lifted the riff from some older source? In either case its a groovy riff. i put up mp3s of both tracks on the web at: Marshall Crenshaw's Mary Anne: http:/students.washington.edu/ringostr/maryanne.mp3 Nick Lowe's My Heart Hurts: http:/students.washington.edu/ringostr/myhearthurts.mp3 Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "I don't speak fascist." -Grant Morrison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:37:32 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Stolen Riffs [oops corrected links this time!] This has been bugging me for quite a while any input would be much appreciated. Both Nick Lowe's My Heart Hurts and Marshal Crenshaw's Mary Anne have the same basic riff. Both songs came out in 1982 on Nick's album Nick the Knife and Marshall's self titled disc. Does any one know if one of them specifically lifted the riff from the other or maybe if they both lifted the riff from some older source? In either case its a groovy riff. i put up mp3s of both tracks on the web at: Marshall Crenshaw's Mary Anne: http://students.washington.edu/ringostr/maryanne.mp3 Nick Lowe's My Heart Hurts: http://students.washington.edu/ringostr/myhearthurts.mp3 Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "I don't speak fascist." -Grant Morrison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:29:53 -0500 From: toast@indy.net Subject: Greasy Quiff/Jet Set Flier At 12:41 AM 3/4/01 -0500, The Man With The Keyhole-Shaped Pupil wrote: >> I just came across this at >> http://www.borderlinebooks.com/uk6070s/t6z.html#Top >> >> 1. GREASY QUIFF (Private Pressing) 1969 R5 > >If this is the correct date, I tend to doubt Robyn was involved... after >all, not only was he only 16 years old then, he didn't even move to >Cambridge until 1974. (and didn't play in public until 1972.) I believe the correct date is 19*7*9, which is more plausible. >But, Aidan swears up and down that Robyn was in the Toby Jug Band, and >Tracy believes him, so... > The man's name is on the album sleeve! The sound on these records is so murky it could be anyone playing and the photos are grainy it could be anyone in them, but I find it easier to believe that Hitchcock was somehow involved than that random Cambridge musicians listed him in the credits for no reason. >> I'd be interested in a trade if anyone can provide me with a dub of either >> or both albums, by the way. > >it is not worth even the most minimal cost or effort. Yeah, I'm a witness. My tape of this was probably an unmourned casualty of a flood that trashed a good portion of my tape and CD collection (in some cases the ink on the labels ran but the tapes themselves seemed okay, but I've never played and relabelled them all). Tracy "All of the atoms and molecules simply get re-jigged around, and come back in different forms. So what is a piece of toast today actually was Napoleon two centuries ago. " -- Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:43:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: beck On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, vaska wrote: > reportedly, beck's next album will be acoustic and inspired by "pretty 70's > british folk/rock" - anybody know what this could mean... Sounds to me like "All around my hat" performed by Steeleye Span and produced by Mike "Womblemeister" Batt. But with a bit of luck it might be more influenced by Sandy Denny and / or Richard and Linda Thompson. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:40:45 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: off topic- saving streaming video when we last left our heroes, Tom Clark exclaimed: >It's not really possible using off the shelf means. Streaming video client >software like Real and Quicktime essentially just buffer up small amounts of >the data stream before passing it directly to the video hardware. You would >then have to intercept that stream and redirect it to the filesystem. >Perhaps there is a hack out there somewhere, but I've never heard of one. there is a windows application called tape recorder which, allegedly, can capture realaudio by creating a virtual sound device which you direct the realaudio stream too. i haven't looked into this myself but i do not recall hearing that it would work with video. another approach is to locate the host that the unstreamed files are stored on and hope that you can retrieve said files via http instead of the streaming protocol in question. usually, though, http, ftp and such are disabled on that host. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:28:42 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: off topic- saving streaming video > on 3/4/01 2:54 PM, Mike Hooker at mhooker@optonline.net wrote: > > > hi, > > has anyone successfully saved a streaming video to their hard drive? i > > want to save some concerts from virtuetv.com and need to know if its > > possible and how. I saw an article on this very subject at work recently, in the Feb. 2001 issue of PC World. However, I didn't actually read the article, and it's not on the shelf right now, so I can't tell you what they said. Check your library; or, their website might have it. (The article might have been about audio only, not video.) If you find a solution that works, please let us know! - --Chris, another librarian Feg (or rather, an MLS-less library worker) nf: snow ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:45:17 -0600 From: Aaron Subject: Re: off topic- saving streaming video At 11:51 PM 3/4/2001, Tom Clark wrote: >It's not really possible using off the shelf means. Streaming video client >software like Real and Quicktime essentially just buffer up small amounts of >the data stream before passing it directly to the video hardware. You would >then have to intercept that stream and redirect it to the filesystem. >Perhaps there is a hack out there somewhere, but I've never heard of one. http://www.eyesociety.org/streamcentral/files.htm Now you have. (This link brought to you courtesy of an actual group called "Users Against Protection Of Streaming Content." X-File-Get works very well for RealMedia files, or it did the last time I used it, some months back. This program does more than just "capture" the audio/video as it's being played in your RealPlayer. It will save the actual file being streamed to your hard drive, in its entirety. * Aaron mailto:aaron@hollowstreets.net http://hollowstreets.net ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #61 *******************************