From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #60 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, March 4 2001 Volume 10 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Oh, one other Young Fresh Fellows cover [Eb ] who will still be famous? ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) ["brian nupp" ] Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) ["brian nupp" ] Re:the S-word ["Irish Airman" ] eb all over the fuckerworld [Fuckerworld ] ...where Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role [Robcow@aol.com] Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) ["Randy R." ] Re: ...where Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role [recount chocul] How come no one has yet said... [Glen Uber ] Re: YFF/Minus 5 ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: How come no one has yet said... [hbrandt ] Re: YFF/Minus 5 [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #59 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: S-word [hbrandt ] Teevee [Eb ] it goes like this: ha-ha [hbrandt ] Re: it goes like this: ha-ha [Eb ] Re: it goes like this: ha-ha [hbrandt ] Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) ["brian nupp" ] Greasy Quiff ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Greasy Quiff [Bayard ] Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) [lj lindhurst ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:43:01 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Oh, one other Young Fresh Fellows cover >> The Sonics' "Strychnine." Very near the end. > >Someone needs to get those boys a new psych-rock compilation.. Well, they *used* to play a set of Viva Saturn covers, but stopped because the crowd always used that time to take a cigarette break outside. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:52:09 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: who will still be famous? >From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" > >Another fine album which will raise a cheer from one half of the list and >groan from the other is Momus's new one, Folktronic. It actually made me >laugh out loud on the train the other day. The boy just gets cleverer and >cleverer (and , yes, that's why a lot of you don't like him, I know). I'll second that enthusiastically. I really was kind of bored by _Stars Forever_ and I'm really pleased that the good humor he built up in that one mixed this time around with the spark and bite and animation of the previous records. _Folktronic_ is a blast and it was terrific live as well. ...it does, however, feature an unabashedly vaudevillian (vaude villain) ditty entitled "Everything You Didn't Want to Know About My Penis" (or at least featuring a refrain of that wording). That show was also my introduction to Stars, a wonderful little pop band from Canadia whom everyone else who cares about wonderful little pop bands who cover Smiths tunes in alarmingly lazy ways probably already knew about. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen.com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:41:32 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) >From: Glen Uber < >Brian Nupp: > >I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers > >Are you kidding? Yes. I thought this might raise an eyebrow or three. I guess you need to come to one of the world famous Bay >Area feg lunches or BBQs and then make that claim. > Would love to, if I'm ever in the area! > >"Never waste a trip anywhere by coming home without beer." >--Russ Reynolds, 21 Feb. 2001 Indeed! Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:41:16 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) >From: Glen Uber < >Brian Nupp: > >I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers > >Are you kidding? Yes. I thought this might raise an eyebrow or three. I guess you need to come to one of the world famous Bay >Area feg lunches or BBQs and then make that claim. > Would love to, if I'm ever in the area! > >"Never waste a trip anywhere by coming home without beer." >--Russ Reynolds, 21 Feb. 2001 Indeed! Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:17:08 -0500 From: "Irish Airman" Subject: Re:the S-word Sloan is the S word. Had the day-off yesterday and played with Napster, downloading lots of Jimmy Webb. Anyway he wrote a song called PF Sloan(whom I also listened too) which I now cant get out of my head. But I will mention I flipped past Survivor during the burn sequence and my thought was--I dont want to see people in REAL pain. Real pain is gruesome. And empathy for it involves identification, so you feel bad. I want to feel my TV empathy for people when theyre FAKING pain. That way I can get all warm and fuzzy with no sick-feeling factor. Whats next--Torture Land? Someday Ill follow Eb's lead and do a full rapsody about great 80's REM concerts. Hmmm, well, maybe Ill mention now the one where Buck kept getting tangeled up in his guitar cord--roadies had to unwrap him like a mummmy. See Eb, Im an REM fangirl. I like Buck. I like goodies. Hint hint, nudge nudge. K "Its better than real, its a real imitation." Amy Mann. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:34:23 -0800 From: Fuckerworld Subject: eb all over the fuckerworld you know eb, you've grown into one of the more domineering schoolmarms on the entire list. how did this happen? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:23:06 EST From: Robcow@aol.com Subject: ...where Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role Ross Taylor asked: >Captain Blood-- >I taped some band in the late 80s on the radio & the DJ said Robyn >was guest guitarist (the tape is gone). 60s retro pop w/ a prominant >flute but not as bluesy as Tull, kinda flowery ruffled-shirt sound. One >of the songs was called "Captain Blood," a narrative about highwaymen >or pirates, & in the middle eight of this Georgian pop Robyn rips a >fuzzed, minor key Rock Guitar lead, then we are gently dropped back >into the 18th century. Anyone know this band or other places where >Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role? Ahhh...that was a good one to dig out and listen to again. The artist you're referring to is Paul Roland. However the guitar part on "Captain Blood" is actually played by Knox (ex-Vibrators) who released a version of Syd Barrett's "Gigolo Aunt" in 1980 which featured Robyn playing some guitar on the b-side, a piece called "Alligator Man". Robyn did play some "backward 'buzz' guitar" on another very cool Paul Roland song called "Madelaine" which is on the same album as "Captain Blood". This album, House of Dark Shadows (1986-Pastell POW 6), was a compilation of singles/EP tracks recorded over a period of 4 years. Robyn also does backing vocals with Knox on another Roland cut, "The Puppet Master" which also appears on the House of Dark Shadows collection. Discographically (is that a word?), in case you're interested, "Captain Blood" and "The Puppet Master" originally appeared on an EP titled "Blades of Battenburg" on the Aftermath label (1983-AEP 12011) and again on a mini-album titled "Burnt Orchids", also on Aftermath (1985-SCOOP 2). If you're interested in reading more about this "psych-pop guru", a man Robyn Hitchcock himself once referred to as "the male Kate Bush" I recommend this site: http://web.tiscalinet.it/cross/paulroland.html--it explains how Roland and Hitchcock came to know each other and there is a complete discography, along with interviews, etc. I'd be willing to make and post an MP3 if anyone can give me tips on how to make MP3 files out of LP's/tapes (Music Match?). Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:26:08 -0800 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) From: brian nupp > I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers, What? You need to pay more attention to some of my slurrish posts.......... For example, why would I do this......... http://lordonly.net/lonerushmen.htm Rawk on, Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:59:27 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: ...where Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role when we last left our heroes, Robcow@aol.com exclaimed: >Ahhh...that was a good one to dig out and listen to again. The artist you're >referring to is Paul Roland. ah, so that's what paul roland sounds like. despite the hitchcock connection, i've never tracked down a copy. >Discographically (is that a word?), in case you're interested, >"Captain Blood" and "The Puppet Master" originally appeared on an EP titled >"Blades of Battenburg" on the Aftermath label (1983-AEP 12011) and again on a >mini-album titled "Burnt Orchids", also on Aftermath (1985-SCOOP 2). all this stuff is detailed on the hamilton discography (which can be found in scanned form at ; the guest appearances are on page 4). >I'd be willing to make and post an MP3 if anyone >can give me tips on how to make MP3 files out of LP's/tapes (Music Match?). there's a good, if technical, discussion about transferring lp to cd at . you'd just replace the cd burning part of his process with a mp3 encoding step. personally, i prefer the low-level approach this guy takes, but i do believe that some of the mp3 jukebox players (such as music match) do provide the facility for making mp3s directly from an input signal. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:44:29 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber Subject: How come no one has yet said... ...Happy Birthday Robyn? Cheers! - -g- "Never waste a trip anywhere by coming home without beer." - --Russ Reynolds, 21 Feb. 2001 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ) ) Glen Uber // uberg at sonic dot net // Santa Rosa, California ) )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 10:51:00 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: YFF/Minus 5 Eb: > I'm not really in the mood to write a synopsis today, but it's my sacred > duty (especially since there's some Hitchcock relevance), so.... Thanks for this. I eagerly bought tix for tonight's SF show but will probably end up eating them due to health problems (cuz, you know, supposedly ticket fiber contains certain healing properties). > Was this the first date of the tour? I believe so. > Actually, > I was surprised at the turn-out. The place was only about three-quarters > full I was surprised that there were *any* tix available to the tiny Bottom Of The Hill as late as five days ago. If I do end up missing tonight's show there is consolation in that YFF will be back in a month with the Soft Boys, but I'm especially bummed to be missing: > and a song I really *love*: the Kinks' > "Get Back in the Line" (off the Lola/Moneygoround album). Probably my second favorite song--next to "Strangers"--on that, my favorite Kinks album . This would have floored me. > an obscure but sorta familiar > pop tune called "Dancing in the Moonlight" (Mike Mills spontaneously jumped > back onstage to sing backup -- later, I asked Mills for an ID, and he said > the song was from 1972 by "King Harvest," and raved about how much he loves > it... now that would have REALLY floored me, because just two days ago I was thinking about that song and wondering when someone was going to come along and cover it. I've always liked that song, hope they keep it in the set for the Soft Boys tour. It'd be nice if Mills & Buck were still with them too, but I'm not gonna let it ruin my evening if they're not there. > McCaughey picked up a piece of paper > and pretended to quizzically read that they would be back here to open for > "The Soft Boys." He and the other guitarist sorta shticked back and forth > about "Who are the Soft Boys?" as if they didn't know. Then, pow...a > rockin' Soft Boys classic. what was the crowd reaction to this announcement? And was there healthy recognition applause during the opening notes of GITTSB? - -rUss np: Elvis Costello/Almost Blue. For the first time ever. Didn't know that "Yakety-Yak", as it's titled on a Beatles bootleg I own, is actually called "Honey Hush. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:25:54 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: How come no one has yet said... > ...Happy Birthday Robyn? Happy Birthday, Robyn! (Thanks for remembering, Glen.) /hal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:40:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: YFF/Minus 5 Russ: >> an obscure but sorta familiar >> pop tune called "Dancing in the Moonlight" >now that would have REALLY floored me, because just two days ago I was >thinking about that song and wondering when someone was going to come along >and cover it. Mike Mills was delightfully surprised that YFF played it -- he told me that he had no idea they knew the song. I have this adorable mental image of Mills, now -- when I asked him if it was a disco song (it sounded like one, the way YFF played it), he said no, and added that it was mostly played on keyboard. As he said this, he sorta clumsily mimed playing a keyboard in front of him. Heh. I wish I had a picture of him, at that moment. Drunken, air piano! :) >> He and the other guitarist sorta shticked back and forth >> about "Who are the Soft Boys?" as if they didn't know. Then, pow...a >> rockin' Soft Boys classic. > >what was the crowd reaction to this announcement? And was there healthy >recognition applause during the opening notes of GITTSB? Not really, sorry to say. You're such a romantic. ;) Then again, it wasn't really that sort of crowd. (Remember how I said there wasn't even a roar when Buck came onstage?) The central dynamic was more about flirtatious, shouted dialogue between audience and performer. My favorite exchange was during the Minus 5 set, when McCaughey said he was a bit hoarse and had trouble doing the whistling in the previous song. Someone took advantage of the break and yelled something about the shaggy-haired, goateed McCaughey being a "hippie." McCaughey, laughing: "I'm no hippie! Hippies don't whistle!" Then he went on to say, in a self-mocking way, that he actually *was* sort of a hippie: "Hey, I saw the Grateful Dead in San Francisco, during the '60s!" Then he admitted, "Well, it was more like '71 or '72...OK? But it was a Bill Graham show!" Ha. >I do NOT want to see "S-------" threads on this list.> > >you know eb, you've grown into one of the more domineering schoolmarms >on the entire list. how did this happen? You know, my homoerotically conflicted chum, it's not schoolmarming when you steer conversation simply by *not talking about something*. As the list's designated "firecracker," I have to be careful where I light my matches, because they often burn for awhile. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:45:23 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #59 >got one for all of you... > >reportedly, beck's next album will be acoustic and inspired by "pretty 70's >british folk/rock" - anybody know what this could mean... presumably Pentangle, Sally Oldfield, Steeleye Span... sounds intriguing... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:02:13 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: S-word The "Fgz" designated, homoerotically aware "firecracker" burned long: > you steer conversation simply by *not talking about something* > > >I do NOT want to see "S-------" threads on this list.> Does this include the Sopranos? (2-hr season premiere tomorrow night!) /hal, who is also currently "steering" the conversation by not mentioning something (at least in my own deluded, self-aggrandizing mind) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:25:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Teevee Hal, in one of his periodic itchin'-to-start-a-fight phases, wrote: >Does this include the Sopranos? (2-hr season premiere tomorrow night!) I don't have HBO, and have only seen about three episodes. Eb, whose (sometimes inadvertent) tendency to ignite major Fegthreads is very well-documented ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 15:08:07 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: it goes like this: ha-ha Designated Firecracker: > > Hal, in one of his periodic itchin'-to-start-a-fight phases Itchin'-to-have-a-laff phases, more accurately. Sorry if it was (again) at your "expense". /hal, a "lover, not a fighter" who also can take a toke...er, joke ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:47:54 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: it goes like this: ha-ha Nelson: >Itchin'-to-have-a-laff phases, more accurately. Sorry if it was (again) >at your "expense". I saw this coming, at least two days ago. It's always the same pattern, when Hal lapses back into ChildishTroll mode. A crescendoing series of digs. Eb finally responds to one. Hal crows, "Lookie! Eb noticed me! I wiiiiiiin!" I give him this lollipop, and he licks it quietly for a few months until it's gone and he needs another. Endless loop. (In this case, I suspect it's just redirected bitterness over the bruising he took in his Comic Book Guy thread. Tsk.) Does anyone else get the real "laff," here? I write a post about a concert, and consciously minimize an allusion to "Survivor" because I think it might start a tangential thread. Hal tries to use this allusion to start a tangential thread, *then* says I'm deluded/egotistical for presupposing the allusion might start such a thread. Now *that's* funny. EbNotAppearingInThisSketchForTheRestOfTheDay now playing: UCLA's loss. Phooey. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:05:08 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: it goes like this: ha-ha The Designated One: > Hal crows, "Lookie! Eb noticed me! I > wiiiiiiin!" I give him this lollipop, and he licks it quietly More homoeroticism! > (In this case, I > suspect it's just redirected bitterness over the bruising he took in his > Comic Book Guy thread. Tsk.) Dave Sim took the beating. Not me. I thought you quit readin' comix? Why were you following that thread? "Lookie, Eb noticed me!" > Does anyone else get the real "laff," here? I write a post about a concert, > and consciously minimize an allusion to "Survivor" because I think it might > start a tangential thread. Hal tries to use this allusion to start a > tangential thread, *then* says I'm deluded/egotistical for presupposing the > allusion might start such a thread. Now *that's* funny. You *do* have a sense of humor (albeit a convoluted one). Fuck this shit. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:46:14 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) >From: "Randy R." http://lordonly.net/lonerushmen.htm > >Rawk on, > >Vince Oh, I am SO convinved! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:31:54 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Greasy Quiff I just came across this at http://www.borderlinebooks.com/uk6070s/t6z.html#Top - --quoted text-- Toby Jug ALBUM: 1. GREASY QUIFF (Private Pressing) 1969 R5 An expensive ultra-rarity, largely comprised of jug band and electric blues material but also containing a Hendrix pastiche, Elastic Landlady, which is basically full of mayhem and noise. You can also check it out on The Psychedelic Salvage Co. Vol. 1. The band, a three-piece, came from Cambridge and just 50 copies of this album were pressed. Elastic Landlady is only for fans of demented psychedelia. - --end of quoted text-- This is the record Robyn Hitchcock was supposed to have played on, isn't it? From what little I remember of the thread from about five years back, the album was horrible and Robyn has denied any involvement. I also recall that somebody on this list (Terry?) had obtained a copy, or maybe just a cassette dub. I know Brian Carling has been poking around for info on the Cambridge music scene, so I'd like to know if maybe Brian can dig up any more information on this album, the members of the band and any evidence that Robyn hitchcock was somehow involved. I believe there was a similar album called Jet Set Flier, wasn't there? I'd be interested in a trade if anyone can provide me with a dub of either or both albums, by the way. - -rUss Oh, and a happy birthday to Robyn Hitchcock. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:41:42 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Greasy Quiff On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Russ Reynolds wrote: > I just came across this at > http://www.borderlinebooks.com/uk6070s/t6z.html#Top > > 1. GREASY QUIFF (Private Pressing) 1969 R5 If this is the correct date, I tend to doubt Robyn was involved... after all, not only was he only 16 years old then, he didn't even move to Cambridge until 1974. (and didn't play in public until 1972.) But, Aidan swears up and down that Robyn was in the Toby Jug Band, and Tracy believes him, so... > I believe there was a similar album called Jet Set Flier, wasn't there? Yes... a terrible all-covers album. [1] > I'd be interested in a trade if anyone can provide me with a dub of either > or both albums, by the way. it is not worth even the most minimal cost or effort. (I have a couple of tracks from each, i think, and will glady put them on the web when i get a chance.) =b [1] "when you're in love with a beautiful woman, you watch your ass." there, happy now? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:04:35 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) >From: brian nupp > > > >> I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers, > >What? You need to pay more attention to some of my slurrish posts.......... > >For example, why would I do this......... > >http://lordonly.net/lonerushmen.htm > >Rawk on, > >Vince Oh my god, that's GREAT!!! lj, avowed non-drinker - -- ******************************** LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com ******************************** Adieu, adieu, to you and you and you. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #60 *******************************