From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #59 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 3 2001 Volume 10 : Number 059 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: quakin' ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re:quakin' [Jeff Dwarf ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] 90% Rum (10% RH) ["brian nupp" ] happy International Toast Day! [Bayard ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #58 ["ross taylor" ] beck [vaska ] Re: unwanted bonus tracks? [Rob Gronotte ] Re: beck [Eb ] Seattle Earthquake Reporting [Tom Clark ] texas reap [steve ] Re: beck [vaska ] unfortunate co-worker name of the day [Bayard ] YFF/Minus 5 [Eb ] Re: beck [Stephen Buckalew ] Re: YFF/Minus 5 [Motherfucking Asshole ] Oh, one other Young Fresh Fellows cover [Eb ] captain blood [Bayard ] fuck me, a good concept album! ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: beck [vaska ] Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) [Glen Uber ] Survivor [hbrandt ] For your desktop? [steve ] Re: S-word [Eb ] Re: S-word [hbrandt ] Re: Oh, one other Young Fresh Fellows cover [Terrence Marks Subject: Re: quakin' > the cops got a bit out of control (again) last night. in > fact, the mayor was just preparing to give a press conference in which he > was to cancel all future mardi gras/fat tuesday events. Yeah, in fact that was a pretty funny sight because since the place was crawling with news media the first scenes we saw from seattle (within minutes) consisted of a roomfull of guys taking pictures of each other. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:23:55 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re:quakin' Russ Reynolds wrote: > Glen: > > That reminds me: Go A's! > > > > "Never waste a trip anywhere by coming home without beer." > > - --Russ Reynolds, 21 Feb. 2001 > > Glen, please do not use my name in any further e-mails that include > pro-A's material, or I will be forced to take legal action. after all, they didn't roll over and play dead in the playoffs like other bay area baseball teams (even though they lost). LET'S GO A'S!!!!!!!! LET'S GO A'S!!!!!!!! ===== "I am so sorry that (Treasury Secretary Paul) O'Neill is upset by people who refer to the corporate aristocracy in this country as "robber barons." That _is_ rude, isn't it? Personally, I prefer to call them greedy bastards." --Molly Ivins Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:52:14 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap John Diamond obit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/uk/newsid_941000/941799.stm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:37:52 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: 90% Rum (10% RH) I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers, but I was wondering if anybody knew of a good rum to soak bananas in. See, my girlfriend came back from St. Martin back in Oct, and she brought back this wonderful rum called Captain Oliver's. It is (was) a dark rum with VERY ripe slices of bananas settling at the bottom. Dee-lish-ous! Unfortunately this overly pleasant stuff is unavailable in the states. It consists of 30% rum alcohol. I've been expermenting for about a month now on Ron Castillo's(a Bacardi private lable) Dark Rum and his Spiced Rum. It's not the same! I wonder how long I should soak the fruits? And if I should be adding anything to the rum? And what rum to use? ....time for...hic!... another... hic!...eye-opener! hic! ;) This is going to be a wonderful month: 1. Re-issue of underwater moonlight w/lots o' bonus stuff! 2. In about 2 weeks the tour begins! 3. I've got the RH bio book w/ CD on the way! 4. Fegfest galore! Amen. Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: happy International Toast Day! It's megafeg Tracy Copeland's birthday today. If you know her, drop her an email at toast@indy.net All hail Tracy, goddess of toast! =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:11:27 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #58 When the Earth Moves Again-- Sympathy to any westerners w/ earthquake damage. My main memory of the little quake I was in years ago is the disconcerting bouncy feel as if the building had just flown into some turbulence. Movies never seem to convey this. Wilde in the Streets-- Thanks for the Geoffrey Willans and Ronald Searle quote, obiously a big influence on Skool Dinner Blues. Did someone already post a link to the Wilde Happy Prince? Here's one: http://www.4literature.net/Oscar_Wilde/Happy_Prince/ Captain Blood-- I taped some band in the late 80s on the radio & the DJ said Robyn was guest guitarist (the tape is gone). 60s retro pop w/ a prominant flute but not as bluesy as Tull, kinda flowery ruffled-shirt sound. One of the songs was called "Captain Blood," a narrative about highwaymen or pirates, & in the middle eight of this Georgian pop Robyn rips a fuzzed, minor key Rock Guitar lead, then we are gently dropped back into the 18th century. Anyone know this band or other places where Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role? Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:29:01 -0700 From: vaska Subject: beck got one for all of you... reportedly, beck's next album will be acoustic and inspired by "pretty 70's british folk/rock" - anybody know what this could mean... the best i could do was some lameass comparison with belle and sebastian...and i do know they aren't from the 70's... curious...jv np : modest mouse : wild pack of family dogs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Re: unwanted bonus tracks? > Alas, it suffers from bonus tracks. FC is one of those albums that > Finishes (like IODOT, Sgt Pepper) and one should "wait one moment before > the spell is broken" at the end before engaging in more music, the first > CD reissue of IODOT was correct in putting the extra tracks in the > middle. Anyway after the majestic You Set the Scene we're straight into > demo versions,alternate mixes,studio talk, and the final single. All of > which I'm glad to have heard but I will rarely want to hear again. I > wish had the facilities to make a CDR with just the original album. Well, instead of a CDR burner, you could just use this other high-technology device, it's called the "Stop Button"! I am tired of people here dissing bonus tracks, I think they are great! Umm, unless I have already for an older CD reissue without them and want the bonus tracks but don't want to buy the main item over again. Then I think they suck! However, in this case a CD burner is good, I guess I need to find someone who does have the reissue and get the bonus tracks on a CDR. Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 12:51:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: beck >reportedly, beck's next album will be acoustic and inspired by "pretty 70's >british folk/rock" - anybody know what this could mean... I saw a brief interview with Beck before the Grammys, and he said that the next album will have some *gospel*. But, he may have been joking. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:02:07 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Seattle Earthquake Reporting - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:29:21 -0600 From: steve Subject: texas reap Henry Wade, of Roe v. Wade fame. John Justin, Jr., of Justin boot fame. On another Texas reapage front, only 21 percent of Texas believe that the state has not executed an innocent person. - - Steve __________ Religious wars are basically people killing each other over who has the better imaginary friend. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:55:25 -0700 From: vaska Subject: Re: beck >> reportedly, beck's next album will be acoustic and inspired by "pretty 70's >> british folk/rock" - anybody know what this could mean... > > I saw a brief interview with Beck before the Grammys, and he said that the > next album will have some *gospel*. But, he may have been joking. > > Eb ugh...let's hope that's a joke...or at least he beckifies it pretty good...jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:04:22 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: unfortunate co-worker name of the day "Fanny Chin" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:23:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: YFF/Minus 5 Hi Fgz and otherwise, I'm not really in the mood to write a synopsis today, but it's my sacred duty (especially since there's some Hitchcock relevance), so.... I saw the Young Fresh Fellows and Minus 5 last night, at the Knitting Factory. Same place where I saw the Go-Betweens, Laika and Chris Knox. Same place where the Soft Boys will play in another month (with the Young Fresh Fellows opening, apparently). Was this the first date of the tour? I left later than usual, because geeky me wanted to stay home and watch S------- and see who was eaten whole by crocodiles. My timing was excellent -- I arrived during the very last song of the first band, the Droo Church. They looked like a college-rock band, but the music seemed to be straight hard-rock. Odd. I guess they're from Seattle too, because their on-sale album was on a Northwest label called Burn Burn Burn (which I've never heard of). I had thought the Minus 5 would headline, but the Minus 5 came on next. I was a bit paranoid, because now I was wondering if I had missed the Fellows. It was already almost 10:30, you see. I was also wondering if it would be like the Tuatara/Minus 5/Mark Eitzel show I saw awhile back, where the band members switched from song to song for a three-ring circus feel. But no, it was all Minus 5. I don't know the band's songs well by title, so I can only say they were fun and entertaining. The crowd didn't really roar to see Peter Buck enter, which I suppose is typical L.A. "cool." Actually, I was surprised at the turn-out. The place was only about three-quarters full -- I think there were more people at the Go-Betweens show! That surprised me. I figured the place would be crawling with REM fans. Maybe those fans *should* have come, because Mike Mills (still with that awful Sally Kellerman hair) was happily watching from the side of the room. He also hopped onstage to back-up sing/play guitar on the final Minus 5 tune, which was neat. Hard to believe I haven't seen REM perform since the *'80s*! Two cool cover songs: the Nightcrawlers' "Little Black Egg" (it's on the Nuggets box, I believe) and a song I really *love*: the Kinks' "Get Back in the Line" (off the Lola/Moneygoround album). The players weren't introduced, but it was a drummer (Kurt Bloch, maybe?), Buck on *bass* and three guitar players (including singer Scott McCaughey, in dark glasses and a shaggy goatee). The pale, drawn one on the right did a remarkable simulation of appearing freshly dead -- he looked like a normal-sized, terminal version of that thin, bald giant from "Twin Peaks." (No, Hitchcock didn't magically appear for a cameo.) I was a bit surprised that no one onstage offered any "earthquake anecdotes." Seems mandatory, right? This is partly why when the Young Fresh Fellows started playing, and I saw Mills *and* Buck watching from the side of the room, I went over a bit later to say hello to Buck. I asked if they had any problems flying down here, but he said they drove instead (and would've driven, even minus the quake). There were a couple of other little earthquake-related exchanges, and then I told him "You know, you gave me one of the most memorable concert experiences of my life" (which is absolutely true). He smiled and said "Oh yeah?" And I started to say, "Yeah...you probably don't remember, but it was about 1986 and you were playing in Costa Mesa south of here...." And he interrupted with "Oh, in the rain?" Ha! I guess the show was memorable for him, too. I was pleasantly surprised. I told him, "That's the wettest I've been in my life, while wearing clothes" (also, absolutely true). Heh. He said he was just as soaked, though I do recall him having the amphitheater shell to partially hide under. (Brief background: The first time I saw REM -- indeed, the show which "converted" me to being a fan -- was circa Life's Rich Pageant at the outdoor Pacific Amphitheater in Costa Mesa. It was *pouring* rain the whole night, and the place was only about a third full as a result. The group appropriately opened with a version of "Have You Ever Seen the Rain?" A benchmark concert for me, on a number of levels.) Anyway...I actually enjoyed the Fellows more than the Minus 5. The Fellows have this amazing, rambunctious chemistry onstage -- you can just *tell* these guys have been playing together for 17-18 years. I believe this was my third time seeing the band, the last time being several years ago at Hollywood High School opening for They Might Be Giants. That was the show which I've probably mentioned before, where I was seated (*assigned* seating, mind you) next to none other than Weird Al Yankovic. He was there to see TMBG, so I was filling him in on the Young Fresh Fellows. Genuinely nice, friendly guy. But anyway...back to last night. The Fellows were just an infectious good time, and that's about all there is to say. They also "rocked" a lot harder than the Minus 5, who mostly stuck to '60s-descended jangle-pop. Cover songs (I might be missing a couple): Boyce/Hart's "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight," the Kinks' "Picture Book" (also found on a YFF album...This One's for the Ladies?), an obscure but sorta familiar pop tune called "Dancing in the Moonlight" (Mike Mills spontaneously jumped back onstage to sing backup -- later, I asked Mills for an ID, and he said the song was from 1972 by "King Harvest," and raved about how much he loves it...he has really *awful* teeth, incidentally) and (yup!) "Give It to the Soft Boys." Way too many parentheses in that sentence. The latter followed a brief bit of self-promotion, where McCaughey picked up a piece of paper and pretended to quizzically read that they would be back here to open for "The Soft Boys." He and the other guitarist sorta shticked back and forth about "Who are the Soft Boys?" as if they didn't know. Then, pow...a rockin' Soft Boys classic. Their set went quite late, and eventually deteriorated into the Robyn-at-Largo zone, where the setlist was gone and they were spontaneously going into trivial songs on the spot with long pauses in-between. Someone called out the title "Soda Machine," and McCaughey was surprised that someone knew it (I don't). This joke song was only about a minute, and stole most of its melody from Blondie's "Dreaming." No further guest-star cameos, beyond that one Mills vocal. The band finally left the stage at about 1:15 am. Buck was cute, after the show. I was impressed that he watched the entire YFF set quite attentively -- nice esprit de corps. Mills watched most of it but was running around a bit more, and cavorting with a couple of pretty women in his coterie. He reeked of booze, when I briefly talked to him. By the time the show was over, the crowd had really dwindled. Down to about 50 people, I imagine. But the moment the Fellows left the stage, Buck darted back to the merchandise table and suddenly became Mr. Outgoing. He turned into a carnival barker, and was aggressively announcing that everyone needs to buy a M5/YFF CD and will *not* leave without buying one. "Hey you, don't leave! Get back here!" Heh. He theatrically waved a pen around, promising to sign every copy sold. I think his advertising worked, because he sold quite a few. I heard him crow to someone, "Hey, I'm *good* at this! I used to work in record retail -- I sold *lots* of records to people who didn't want them." Ha. I kinda wish I had brought my own copy of the album for both groups to sign, but I really didn't expect the smaller crowd and "easy access." I did get Buck to sign a Minus 5 postcard, for a certain REM fangirl I know. I don't think there's anything more to say at this point, except that after the show, some friendly guy came up to me and asked if I was Ward Dotson (the Liquor Giants, the Pontiac Brothers). I don't recall what Dotson looks like, so I don't know how much of an insult/compliment this was. ;) Good show. Next up: hopefully Stephen Malkmus at the El Rey, on the 13th. Incidentally, part of the reason for the lesser crowd may have been a big, competing show at the (?) Palladium. It was a benefit for someone whose name/role I forget, and featured Thelonious Monster, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and...Neil Young & Crazy Horse. Not bad! A friend of mine went...presumably, he'll give me the skinny. Speaking of Hitchcock, did you know that Oliver Stone has a Hollywood-Walk-of-Fame star next to Alfred Hitchcock? Hmpf! Heresy! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:36:52 -0500 From: Stephen Buckalew Subject: Re: beck Hmmm.... Gospel music is beautiful IMHO....whether you believe in the sentiments of it or not, Plus, you wouldn't have your indie-rock or Robyn for that matter if it weren't for Gospel music. :-) btw, Having spent the last year listening almost exclusively to bluegrass and old-time, I'm getting back into rock/pop etc, types of music again.... But I've totally lost track of what's out there.... Any fegs wanna take a stab at pointing me towards some good new music? I tend to like the more subdued type of stuff.....I like stuff like the Feelies, Spiritualized (now there's some good gospel influences....), Nick Drake, American Analog Set, Brian Jonestown Massacre, and of course, Robyn H. I'm pretty open minded though.... Thanks in advance... Steve B At 01:55 PM 3/2/2001 -0700, you wrote: >> reportedly, beck's next album will be acoustic and inspired by "pretty 70's >> british folk/rock" - anybody know what this could mean... > > I saw a brief interview with Beck before the Grammys, and he said that the > next album will have some *gospel*. But, he may have been joking. > > Eb ugh...let's hope that's a joke...or at least he beckifies it pretty good...jv ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:11:12 -0800 From: Motherfucking Asshole Subject: Re: YFF/Minus 5 wait just a motherfucking second! you told *me* that the wettest you've ever been in your life, while wearing clothes was that time when you espied me bending over to pick up that bag of peat moss. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:12:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Oh, one other Young Fresh Fellows cover The Sonics' "Strychnine." Very near the end. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: captain blood > Captain Blood-- > I taped some band in the late 80s on the radio & > the DJ said Robyn was guest guitarist (the tape > is gone). 60s retro pop w/ a prominant flute > but not as bluesy as Tull, kinda flowery > ruffled-shirt sound. One of the songs was called > "Captain Blood," a narrative about highwaymen or > pirates, & in the middle eight of this Georgian > pop Robyn rips a fuzzed, minor key Rock Guitar > lead, then we are gently dropped back into the > 18th century. Anyone know this band or other > places where Robyn plays a "Jimmy-Page-as-hired-gun" role? the problem with searching for this is, there seems to be a musical or a serial by this name. The first mp3 to come up was a radio play starring errol flynn and basil rathbone. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:59:12 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: fuck me, a good concept album! Just got hold of Colonel Jeffrey Pumpernickel which is a pretty loosely bound 'concept album' revolving around the fictional military man. Contributions come from various regularly name checked types including Guided By Voices, Stephen Malkmus, The Minus 5, Quasi, Grandaddy etc. And I think it's bloody marvellous. The rather enigmatic web-site at www.offrecords.com promises a couple of tasty gigs in support of this artefact in Seattle and Portland on March 30th and 31st. Lou Barlow, Minus 5, Ann Magnuson, Quasi etc. I'd go if I lived in the locale... Another fine album which will raise a cheer from one half of the list and groan from the other is Momus's new one, Folktronic. It actually made me laugh out loud on the train the other day. The boy just gets cleverer and cleverer (and , yes, that's why a lot of you don't like him, I know). Talking of Mr Currie, is Susan Dodge still listening in? Give me a shout off-list... jmbc. n.b. (now blagging) Triple vinyl UM... I'm going to the launch party...nyah,nyah,nyah,nyaaah,nyah!!! (The two remaining friends I have on the list vow never to speak to me again...) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:06:13 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: garage bands Talking of West Coast 60s garage bands as Eb was (The Nightcrawlers/Sonics). There's an entire album of Nightcrawlers stuff out here now on Ace Records (their Big Beat imprint I believe, without checking). And the Sonics are included on the NW Battle Of The Bands comp on the same label: the one I mentioned Scott McCaughey raving about on the Ace web-site a while back. jmbc. n.p. Colonel Jeffrey Pumpernickel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 16:27:43 -0700 From: vaska Subject: Re: beck > I tend to like the more subdued type of stuff.....I like stuff like the > Feelies, Spiritualized (now there's some good gospel influences....), Nick > Drake, American Analog Set, Brian Jonestown Massacre, and of course, Robyn H. THE FEELIES...MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...I have all their stuff on vinyl...time to dig it out... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:25:30 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: 90% Rum (10% RH) On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, brian nupp wrote: >I know this list consists of mainly non-drinkers Are you kidding? I guess you need to come to one of the world famous Bay Area feg lunches or BBQs and then make that claim. Cheers! - -g- "Never waste a trip anywhere by coming home without beer." - --Russ Reynolds, 21 Feb. 2001 )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ) ) Glen Uber // uberg at sonic dot net // Santa Rosa, California ) )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 17:43:08 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Survivor Eb: > Hi otherwise Hi. > geeky me wanted to stay home and watch S------- > and see who was eaten whole by crocodiles. Crocodiles were actually only red herrings. I'm surprised you didn't mention the intensity of what really did happen to one of the Survivors. Pain empathy factor=10 for this viewer. An amazing, unexpected episode; you won't see that on "The Real World". /hal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:01:01 -0600 From: steve Subject: For your desktop? Complements of someone on the Loud Family list: http://thrasher.boony.com/poster.cfm?file=softboys_4-5-01.jpg Here's the front page: http://www.thrasherpresents.com/ - - Steve __________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:51:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: S-word >>geeky me wanted to stay home and watch S------- >>and see who was eaten whole by crocodiles. > >Crocodiles were actually only red herrings. No kidding. >I'm surprised you didn't >mention the intensity of what really did happen to one of the Survivors. >Pain empathy factor=10 for this viewer. I didn't mention it, because even though I enjoy the show a lot, I do NOT want to see "S-------" threads on this list. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 20:48:56 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: S-word Eb: > I do NOT > want to see "S-------" threads on this list. Too late for that now. At least it doesn't involve making lists of favorite bands or Alice Cooper or Cerebus. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:41:23 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Oh, one other Young Fresh Fellows cover On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Eb wrote: > The Sonics' "Strychnine." Very near the end. > Someone needs to get those boys a new psych-rock compilation.. Terrence "Rubble" Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #59 *******************************