From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #51 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, February 23 2001 Volume 10 : Number 051 Today's Subjects: ----------------- They don't know they've been hacked... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: Grammys [Eb ] Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. [Eb ] reap ($$$) [Eb ] Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. [Viv Lyon ] Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. [Eb ] Re: Grammys [hbrandt ] Austin SB show 3/17 @ SXSW [Marshall Needleman Armintor ] Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. [Ken Ostrander ] Re: Eb implants. [Ken Ostrander ] Re: Grammys ["J. Brown" ] sim and chicks ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. [lj lindhurst ] simchik and chicks ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] MIT, Kittens and the FBI [Tom Clark ] topless fegs ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Grammys [hbrandt ] Re: Austin SB show 3/17 @ SXSW [GSS ] re: Grammys [Eb ] Soft Boys in SF ["Russ Reynolds" ] Soft Boys in Austin [Cynthia Peterson ] Help Feg Needed [Hedblade@aol.com] Fwd: Grammys [Hedblade@aol.com] Re: Fwd: Grammys [Terrence Marks ] heard at work today [Motherfucking Asshole ] Re: Help Feg Needed [Bayard ] Re: Help Feg Needed [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:51:32 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: They don't know they've been hacked... ...yet. http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) If you are young and you drink a great deal it will spoil your health, slow your mind, make you fat--in other words, turn you into an adult. -PJ O'Rourke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:03:54 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: FW: They don't know they've been hacked... All right, all right...it's not real. If you look at the address it's www.microsoft.com&item=q209354 -AT- hwnd.net Very disappointed. I'm going to go kick the cat now. > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas, Ferris > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:53 PM > To: the oracle (E-mail) > Subject: They don't know they've been hacked... > > ...yet. > > http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp > > ______________________________________ > Ferris Scott Thomas > programmer > > McGraw-Hill Education > 860.409.2612 > ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) > > If you are young and you drink a great deal it will spoil your health, > slow your mind, make you fat--in other words, turn you into an adult. > -PJ O'Rourke ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:14:13 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: They don't know they've been hacked... Ferris wrote: > > ...yet. > > http://www.microsoft.com&item=q209354@www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp I love that stuff! My friend's a web designer. He chain smokes and stares at the monitor all day. He says despite business doing well, hacking is the only thing that gives him True Pleasure. Thanks for the giggle, Ferris! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:16:05 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re:They don't know they've been hacked... Ferris wrote: > All right, all right...it's not real. > Very disappointed. Damn! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:16:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Grammys Hal: >> I think the >> Gallagher joke was referencing all the silver streamers which were >> liberally launched into the first rows, rather than the mallets > >Right. It was a joke about style over substance. Well, not really. The point was more literal: The initial rows of the audience were showered with icky stuff (in this case, a ridiculous overload of silver streamers), just like at a Gallagher show. Tom Clark: >Ordinary fucking people; I hate 'em. Ha! Best movie line EVER. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:27:54 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. V.: >My own purposes, eh? If this weren't so pathetic, it'd be hilarious. Whenever you say "pathetic," I picture your line being delivered by Heather Locklear's similarly snitty "Melrose Place" character. She luvvvved that word. >> Is it any wonder she's so touchy about this "using one's body to get ahead" >> issue? > >How is this "getting ahead," again? First of all, if Tom and Greg actually >do want to see my naked boobs (that is to say, if they aren't just kidding >around, which I would have to say they most certainly are), they aren't >much different than most men, who would want to see _anyone's_ naked >boobs, because they're men and seeing naked boobs in person is exciting. >So I'm not terribly flattered by the attention. I think it's funny, but >that's about it. Second of all, exactly how am I benfitting from this? Oh >yeah, woo hoo, people are talking about my boobs. Yippee. I can get real >live attention from real live men in my own town any day of the week. I >don't "get off" on email discussion of my chesticles. Are you *still* talking about your chest? Haven't you painted enough mental pictures for us, already? We get it, we get it! Your luscious melons are a source of wonder, for all those lucky enough to glimpse them! You're the elusive goddess whom we're all futilely aching to have! Right! I like how, first, you shrug that you're not flattered by such attention, and then go on to boast that you can get ogling from hometown men ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. Wooooooo! You go, girl! Work it, baby! Oh, by the way, regarding the Grammys: I neglected to smirk about how Steely Dan beat out the three "vanguard" best-album nominees, but I suppose that was a foregone conclusion anyway, right? At least Steely Dan was the spoiler, instead of that tepidly reviewed, conservative Paul Simon disc. Eb now still failing to hear what's so great about: Saint Etienne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:57:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap ($$$) *93,268* Dale Earnhardt items, now for sale on Ebay. Horry mackererl. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&SortProperty=MetaHighestPriceSort&query="dale+earnhardt"&ebaytag1=ebayreg&ht=1&st=0 And check the bidding wars over those $25,000 and $15,000 items (a truck and a used driving suit)! Oh, I recently got the Internet-only Eels live album, which someone on the list was raving about. I like it, but I'm a bit disappointed. The five overhyped, "previously unreleased" songs are merely two cover tunes (admittedly, "Oh What a Beautiful Morning" is the best reason to buy the disc), a silly spoken-word piece by the drummer, a trashy piano improvisation and a half-written vamp which is barely a song. And most of the other songs seem a bit too "small," somehow. The stage is filled with this great jazzy band with horns and things, and yet most of the tracks seem like intimate solo performances. And when E.'s songs are stripped of their snazzy arrangements and samples, the repetitive banality of their chords and melodies can be unduly stressed. OK, I'm through now. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Eb wrote: > Are you *still* talking about your chest? Haven't you painted enough mental > pictures for us, already? We get it, we get it! Your luscious melons are a > source of wonder, for all those lucky enough to glimpse them! You're the > elusive goddess whom we're all futilely aching to have! Right! Wow, that was interesting. LJ and I agreed that the lady fegs should all send Eb a picture of their naked...you knows.... so that maybe the next time a woman refers to unnamed parts of her body, he'll feel a little more included. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:29:31 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. >LJ and I agreed that the lady fegs should all send Eb a picture of their >naked...you knows.... so that maybe the next time a woman refers to >unnamed parts of her body, he'll feel a little more included. Nah, just send them to Nick c/o the FegFotos site...you'll get more attention, that way. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:39:56 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Grammys > >> I think the > >> Gallagher joke was referencing all the silver streamers which were > >> liberally launched into the first rows, rather than the mallets > >Right. It was a joke about style over substance. > Well, not really. The point was more literal: The initial rows of the > audience were showered with icky stuff (in this case, a ridiculous overload > of silver streamers), just like at a Gallagher show. OK, OK! I know you *liked* the Moby song. While I agree as to the literal gag about raining crap on the front rows, I still think (Jon Stewart being a comedian of sometimes subtle wit) that the joke *possibly* had the subtext of 'style over substance'. Comedians always make fun of prop comics like Gallagher and Carrot Top for that reason and the Moby/BMG performance had it in abundance. Next: What makes "Why did the chicken cross the road?" funny. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:01:34 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Needleman Armintor Subject: Austin SB show 3/17 @ SXSW I've been kind of out of the, er, feg loop, as it were, but I've got a question for the Austin/surrounding area fegs: is it simply impossible to _buy_ your way into a featured concert at SXSW, or not? And can you just get a wristband/badge for just the day, rather than the whole damn week? Marshall np Miles Davis, _Walkin'_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:42:23 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. >> Are you *still* talking about your chest? Haven't you painted enough mental >> pictures for us, already? We get it, we get it! Your luscious melons are a >> source of wonder, for all those lucky enough to glimpse them! You're the >> elusive goddess whom we're all futilely aching to have! Right! > >Wow, that was interesting. > >LJ and I agreed that the lady fegs should all send Eb a picture of their >naked...you knows.... so that maybe the next time a woman refers to >unnamed parts of her body, he'll feel a little more included. once again, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:14:28 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Eb implants. >now still failing to hear what's so great about: Saint Etienne and the world just keeps on turning... to be fair, their latest album wasn't all that impressive, despite what stolling rone thought of it. >I'm getting *really* sick of Blue Man Group's shtick, though. These dudes >are total poseurs, man. Look beneath all the visual whizzbang and quirky >instruments, and their music is *deadly* banal. It's basically pedestrian >surf-rock, which is made to somehow seem "vanguard" by all that PVC-pipe >silliness. Empty, empty, empty. If you gave Blue Man Group's instruments to >Steve Reich...whew, now *then* you'd hear some interesting polyrhythms. blue man group is not a musical group. they are performance artists. yes, they bang on the PVC; but at their shows they have a band that plays behind a screen. of course, performance artists are all poseurs; but i thought that their show (i didn't watch the grammys, i'm talking about their own show) was very entertaining. from what i've heard from people today, the moby/blue man bit was the best part of the show last night. >6. Most ironic moment of the night: Best New Artist winner Shelby Lynne >opening her speech with "Thirteen years and six albums later...." Sheesh. >The guidelines for this category stink. And heck, everyone knows this >should've been a three-way race between Jurassic 5, Amy Correia and Badly >Drawn Boy. ;) once again, i didn't watch; but this illustrates how the best new artist category is a complete crock of shit. i believe the grammys are based on sales, at least as far as nominations go. after that, i think some music execs vote or something. for the most part, it's the biggest self-congratulatory circle-jerk since the oscars. the best way to deal with either is to videotape and then watch with finger firmly fixed on the remote control fast-forward button. ken "moving the goalposts" the kenster np the charm of the highway strip magnetic fields ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: Grammys On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, hbrandt wrote: > OK, OK! I know you *liked* the Moby song. While I agree as to the > literal gag about raining crap on the front rows, I still think (Jon > Stewart being a comedian of sometimes subtle wit) that the joke > *possibly* had the subtext of 'style over substance'. Comedians always > make fun of prop comics like Gallagher and Carrot Top for that reason > and the Moby/BMG performance had it in abundance. John Stewart was painfully bad and looked uncomfortable throughout the whole damn thing. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "I don't speak fascist." -Grant Morrison ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:48:07 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: sim and chicks >From: hbrandt > Besides, you're not considering the fact that >the characters in CEREBUS (i.e. The Judge and therefore, possibly >"Viktor Davis") have been known to be liars. >One of the overall themes >of the book is that "all stories are true". The point I made about the >work being incomplete (and therefore the rush to a Judgement being >possibly misguided until we read the final chapter in March 2004 when >#300 is released) is eloquently explored in this message from a CEREBUS >discussion list I've been reading... > >Sean wrote: [some heartbreakingly hopeful speculation] I think the comparison of this stuff to _A Modest Proposal_ is a noble attempt, but to me the two texts couldn't be more different in tone and execution. If Sim doesn't believe every word he wrote, he certainly feels plenty of ambivalence about it, enough to spin it out very elaborately indeed. And he gave permission for it to be used on a site devoted to the defense and celebration of intellectualized misogyny. I think Occam's Razor points to the conclusion that Sim has real big problems with women and the relationship with them he, as a 20th-21st century Occidental male, is expected to have. This is not too surprising; I have real big problems with the legal institution of marriage, too, but I suspect the similarity ends there. Your correspondent's claim: > > I've never seen this sort of screed focus on women before, though, kind of surprises me. It all seems very familiar to me, if unusually thorough in this case. Anyway. Certainly there are many great artists with unfortunate views. The misogyny site quotes one of them (August Strindberg). I eventually decided I liked Nick Cave despite some of his lyrics. And so on. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:48:14 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Fundraiser to get Eb implants. >On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Eb wrote: > >> Are you *still* talking about your chest? Haven't you painted enough mental >> pictures for us, already? We get it, we get it! Your luscious melons are a >> source of wonder, for all those lucky enough to glimpse them! You're the >> elusive goddess whom we're all futilely aching to have! Right! > >Wow, that was interesting. > >LJ and I agreed that the lady fegs should all send Eb a picture of their >naked...you knows.... so that maybe the next time a woman refers to >unnamed parts of her body, he'll feel a little more included. Ach, now *I'm* getting dragged into this!!! I was just suggesting it because I've already sent Eb pictures of my ASS, so I figured he could have the complete collection. (LJ Collector's Edition Body Part Cards, more fun than Magic the Gathering!) Off to have a Tom Clark -sized Martini, lj - -- - -------------- - LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com - -------------- - "Does every story have to have a moral? What am I, Mother Goose?" --The Nanny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:51:04 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: simchik and chicks ...oh, forgot to chime in: boobs for me too please. Size is unimportant; composition must employ all-natural ingredients, however. Thank you. Drew, just another guy on this list desperately asserting his non-homosexuality? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:55:54 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: MIT, Kittens and the FBI Meow! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:58:57 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: topless fegs >From: Eb > >Oh, lookie. Viv has managed to re-route the discussion to serve her own >purposes, such that all the poor Fegboys are now fantasizing about seeing >her topless. The fantasy is not without its appeal, but seeing her "male housepet" topless takes more priority for me at the moment. >From: Tom Clark > >Well said, as usual, Glen! The difference between Mssrs Shady and Dan being >that one frames his stories in the language of the street, and the other in >metaphor and allegory. And of course it's easier to attack something that's >in-your-face obvious than it is to have to explain why something is "bad". Also, every kid likes Eminem and only old farts like Steely Dan. Oops! Did I say that out loud? Drew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:21:02 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Grammys > John Stewart was painfully bad and looked uncomfortable throughout the > whole damn thing. They're a tough gig, awards ceremonies. The "seen it all, done it all, hipper and richer than thou" celebrity-laden room would be intimidating to most, and many have tried and failed. At least he wasn't as bad as the Wayans Bros on the MTV awards (but he just about tied with Letterman on the Oscars.) I think Stewart is overall a funny guy, however. (My tastes run more toward Garry Shandling rather than Jerry Seinfeld, comedy-wise). /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:16:03 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: Austin SB show 3/17 @ SXSW Hey, According to the receptionist for SXSW, all the clubs offer walk-up rates for between 10 and 20 bucks per show. Show up early and there is no in-out-in for walk-ups. greG On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Marshall Needleman Armintor wrote: > I've been kind of out of the, er, feg loop, as it were, but I've got a > question for the Austin/surrounding area fegs: is it simply impossible to > _buy_ your way into a featured concert at SXSW, or not? And can you just > get a wristband/badge for just the day, rather than the whole damn week? > > Marshall > > np Miles Davis, _Walkin'_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:37:33 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: Grammys >from what i've heard from people today, the moby/blue man bit was >the best part of the show last night. I must admit that U2 was my favorite performance, despite my overall unresponsiveness to their music. The band has that rock-star charisma, of course, and I thought the stage lights' "morning-sun glare" during the chorus was a striking visual touch. Eb, who would've liked to have seen Randy Newman's Grammy acceptance speech...oh well PS I'm definitely going to the Young Fresh Fellows/Minus 5 on the 1st, in case this affects anyone's existence. Might even be able to get a local Feg in free, if he/she so desires. Speaking of which, I gotta go take notes on those albums right now.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 19:41:58 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Soft Boys in SF I just found out through a contact at BGP that tickets will go on sale March 4 for the Soft Boys show at the Fillmore April 7. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:18:53 -0800 From: Cynthia Peterson Subject: Soft Boys in Austin Wristbands for SXSW went on sale today, at local outlets only. See Waterloo records' site for more info: http://www.waterloorecords.com/sxsw.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:23:59 EST From: Hedblade@aol.com Subject: Help Feg Needed Hello my fair Fegs, I'm in need of some info, and I know you all will be able to help. I've searched all of the requisite sites, but I haven't found a list of artists who have covered Robyn / Soft Boys. Is there such a discography I haven't found? How about bands / artists that have sited Robyn / Soft Boys as an influence? We know REM, but what about others? Can y'all help? Please respond to me directly, as I don't want to clog the Feg funnel. Hedblade@aol.com Thanks in advance! Blinking on and off... Jay p.s. I'm no longer a Windy City Feg... I'm officially a Bay Area Feg as of a few weeks ago. Looking much forward to the Bay Bash on April 7th! p.p.s. Love on ya, Susan Dodge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:33:07 EST From: Hedblade@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Grammys In a message dated 02/22/2001 12:00:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, ElBroome@earthlink.net writes: > 6. Most ironic moment of the night: Best New Artist winner Shelby Lynne > opening her speech with "Thirteen years and six albums later...." Sheesh. > The guidelines for this category stink. And heck, everyone knows this > should've been a three-way race between Jurassic 5, Amy Correia and Badly > In a just world, Doves would have walked away with the award. Easily the best debut in the last five years and lightyears beyond the good, but totally uneven, Badly Drawn Boy disc. Heck... Doves are the backing band on the best tunes on his disc anyway. Even the Brits got it wrong by giving BDB the Mercury Prize over Doves. Just for the record... I like Doves. I like them very, very much. Everyong should buy the Doves disc. J. Return-Path: Received: from rly-xd05.mx.aol.com (rly-xd05.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.170]) by air-xd01.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:00:26 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [216.200.102.14]) by rly-xd05.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 03:00:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id CAA05546; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:54:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id CAA05533 for fegmaniax-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id CAA05523 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.179.38.111] (pool0111.cvx14-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.38.111]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16062; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:54:05 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: elbroome@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A94A7CF.58EF@milehigh.net> References: <3A94A7CF.58EF@milehigh.net> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:55:03 -0700 To: Fgz From: Eb Subject: Re: Grammys Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org Reply-To: Eb Precedence: bulk X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) >Best Jon Stewart quip from the Grammys (following the ultra-repetitve, >special-effects laden Moby/Blue Man Group "song" to which the obviously >bedazzled crowd gave a baffling standing ovation): > >"Amazing! Gallagher would be proud!" Well, I like the Moby song, though I think it makes more conceptual sense when the vocal part is sampled, rather than sung live. Also, I think the Gallagher joke was referencing all the silver streamers which were liberally launched into the first rows, rather than the mallets used by BMG. I'm getting *really* sick of Blue Man Group's shtick, though. These dudes are total poseurs, man. Look beneath all the visual whizzbang and quirky instruments, and their music is *deadly* banal. It's basically pedestrian surf-rock, which is made to somehow seem "vanguard" by all that PVC-pipe silliness. Empty, empty, empty. If you gave Blue Man Group's instruments to Steve Reich...whew, now *then* you'd hear some interesting polyrhythms. Other short notes: 1. I was really surprised that U2 shut out Macy Gray. I do like "Beautiful Day," but "I Try" is an instant classic (I'm not even *close* to sick of that song yet) and it fits the Grammys' typical slant much better. 2. Speaking of Macy Gray, she seems to be destined to become the most uneven, unpredictable vocalist since Bawb. Really crummy performance by her, tonight. 3. Jon Stewart (whom I ordinarily like) was really mediocre as a host. Even his suit was wrong. And did Michael Greene angrily *push* Stewart out of the way, prior to the Elton/Eminem introduction? That was more shocking than the song! 4. Easily the funniest moment of the night for me: The winner of the new Native American Album category was announced, and the "song" the P.A. excerpted as the artist walked to the stage was nothing more than tom-toms playing quarter notes! No melody...no vocals...no chords...NOTHING! :) 5. Made me sad when they were announcing those "Hall of Fame" names (including Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys), and when the montage was over, the camera cut to a typically vapid Mike Love grinning at the camera. And Wilson had already been shown, earlier in the night -- he was in da howse! And ignored! Grr. 6. Most ironic moment of the night: Best New Artist winner Shelby Lynne opening her speech with "Thirteen years and six albums later...." Sheesh. The guidelines for this category stink. And heck, everyone knows this should've been a three-way race between Jurassic 5, Amy Correia and Badly Drawn Boy. ;) 7. Sheryl Crow is *terrible* at reading off a teleprompter. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:05:10 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Fwd: Grammys On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 Hedblade@aol.com wrote: > In a just world, Doves would have walked away with the award. Easily the > best debut in the last five years and lightyears beyond the good, but totally > uneven, Badly Drawn Boy disc. Heck... Doves are the backing band on the best > tunes on his disc anyway. Even the Brits got it wrong by giving BDB the > Mercury Prize over Doves. Just for the record... I like Doves. I like them > very, very much. Everyong should buy the Doves disc. Allow me to second this. Get the Doves album. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:12:28 -0800 From: Motherfucking Asshole Subject: heard at work today "pakistani techno really turns me on! i fuckin' love that shit!" the reference was (i presume) to the PURE DANCE '99 (volume one) cd in our changer. "in the mix 12 non-stop tracks", mixed by df MS & NJ. song titles: 1. Chaiyya Chaiyya 2. Pyar Kiya To Nibhana 3. Anjabi Mujhko Itna 5. Kuch Kuch Hota Hai 6. Maharaja 7. Tere Naina Mere 8. Sona Sona 9. Akhiyon Se Goli Mare 10. Makhna 11. Suniye To 12. Aap Jaissa Koi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:40:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Help Feg Needed > I've searched all of the requisite sites, but I haven't found a list of > artists who have covered Robyn / Soft Boys. Is there such a discography I > haven't found? Hamilton lists: http://feedthefish.org/robyn/hamilton/hamilton04.gif Mood Six (I wanna destroy you) [this song has been covered by about a dozen known bands, including debbie gibson/circle jerks (which would have been much more interesting if she had sung the main vocal. she's almost not there at all)] The Replacements (ye sleeping knights of jesus) (they also did man who invented himself, also live) The King of Luxembourg (who he?) (where are the prawns) The other ones you already probably know are Suzanne Vega/Grateful dead (chinese bones) REM (arms of love) and more recently, Counting Crows (oceanside and she doesn't exist.) All rather poor, IMHO. > How about bands / artists that have sited Robyn / Soft Boys as an influence? > We know REM, but what about others? I recently mentioned two smaller-scale acts, (who nevertheless have acheived fairly widespread distribution and acclaim) the Old 97s, and Cake. The Replacements are/were also huge fans. Robyn's friend and cheese-buddy Fletcher apparently did at least one robyn cover, playing all the parts with saxophone tracks. And of course, Vic Chestbutt did a dancy version of "she doesn't exist" for "Glass Flesh: The First One" > Can y'all help? Please respond to me directly, as I don't want to clog the > Feg funnel. Believe me, the funnel could do with some clogging about now. Welcome back! =b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:20:51 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Help Feg Needed >The King of Luxembourg (who he?) (where are the prawns) About 10 years ago, I blindly bought a King of Luxembourg CD for $2 or $3. I didn't know a thing about the group. It was a real bargain, because not only it was an import, it contained two full albums (Sir and Royal Bastard, released in 1987 and 1988). I've tried to make myself "prune" that CD several times, but whenever I play it, I enjoy it again. It's staying. It's certainly in a vaguely Robyn-esque, precious-jangle-pop vein. There are also a couple of fun cover songs, though this disc doesn't have "Where Are the Prawns?" You know, I'm actually glad you brought this up, because I just pulled out the disc and noticed far more covers than I remember! I recalled that the Monkees' "Valleri" was on it, but gosh, here's the Television Personalities' "Picture of Dorian Gray" (which I also own by the conceptually similar Cleaners From Venus), PIL's "Poptones," a Mancini song called "Something for Sophia Loren," Beefheart's "Her Eyes Are a Blue Million Miles," the Turtles' "Happy Together" and that old frat-rock hit "Liar Liar" (the Castaways?). The songwriting credits are on the disc itself, so I never read through them while the disc was playing -- I honestly never noticed the PIL/Mancini/Beefheart credits before. Wow! Yet more reason to hold onto it.... The other interesting thing is that around this time, I also discovered a cool British soundtrack composer named Simon Fisher Turner. I know I have a few soundtracks by him, but I can only think of "Nadja" and "The Garden" at the moment (oh yeah, "Caravaggio," but that's in my trade-in pile now). Imagine my surprise when a few years later, I realized that Simon Fisher Turner was also "the King of Luxembourg"! Further info (if this link is still good): http://www.panam.edu/faculty/hood/sft.html Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #51 *******************************