From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #39 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, February 10 2001 Volume 10 : Number 039 Today's Subjects: ----------------- History of Rock [Paul Christian Glenn ] tech weenie question [Eb ] Re: tech weenie question [Capuchin ] black market music, indeed! ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: tech weenie question [steve ] 0% Robyn, %100 me, 0% commerce ["Brian Huddell" ] RE: tech weenie question ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: more of this comics shit ["J. Brown" ] Re: tech weenie question [Eb ] Re: Bo Diddley ["Russ Reynolds" ] RE: History of Rock ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: 50 years in 18 hours ["Russ Reynolds" ] Soft Boys Questions ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: 50 years in 18 hours [Eb ] give my regards to fuck-stick ["Motherfucking Asshole" ] Re: 50 years in 18 hours [hbrandt ] Re: dissing aardvarks [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Robyn's place in rock history [Eb ] speak of the devil, Andrew.... [Eb ] But what are their favorite colors? [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:35:49 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Christian Glenn Subject: History of Rock Any history of rock would be remiss if it didn't include the following: http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf (Be sure to have the sound on your computer turned up) Rock on! == paul pcg@bootbox.net _____________________________________________________________ BootBox.Net - Home Of The Totally Free Internet Solution http://www.bootbox.net Get an @bootbox.net webmail account - http://webmail.bootbox.net Host Your Website For Free - http://webhosting.bootbox.net Put Your E-Commerce Business Online Virtually Free - http://bcommerce.bootbox.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:38:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: tech weenie question After something like 18 years, my stereo headphones have suddenly died. (They were Sennheiser's.) Or at least, one ear has died. Does anyone have brand/model recommendations for reasonably priced headphones? We're talking 1/4-inch plug here, not the Walkman/computer variety. Seems like whenever I spot headphones in stores, they're always for Walkmans rather than da big boxes. 'Elp? Eb now needing: sleep ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:26:02 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: tech weenie question On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Eb wrote: > Does anyone have brand/model recommendations for reasonably priced > headphones? We're talking 1/4-inch plug here, not the Walkman/computer > variety. Speak for your own computer, buddy. Mine has a quarter-inch plug right on the front and the sound is at least as good as from my amplifier in the living room. > Seems like whenever I spot headphones in stores, they're always for > Walkmans rather than da big boxes. Price range would be helpful. As I understand it, the price goes from about thirty dollars up to about nine hundred. I'll give you the scoop on the two sets I've got. Both are Sony, so if you're biased against this monstrosity, look on, friend. They were about one hundred apiece back when I bought them. First, not for everyone and probably not for the most scrutinizing listener: At work on my microsystem (shelf component system w/ MD, CD, and both analog and digital aux inputs for my two computers), I have a pair of the MDR-RF950 wireless headphones. These are the 900MHz wireless jobbies and are usually just great. I get a range of about 80' in an office filled with computer equipment and only get skips in service about twice a day. Second, midrange in price and really great, so far: At home, for various uses, I have a pair of MDR-V600DJ phones. These have reversible earcups for being a goof and only listening with one ear. But the sound is great. Good frequency range, from what I can hear. No complaints on either. I use the cordless at work and I'm not going to say their audio quality comes anywhere close to my home pair, but I love 'em and would use them at home if I ever had any need to wear headphones at home while I'm actually active and walking around. (See, if I'm up and doing chores, then Vivien will let me play whatever I want... anything to keep me doing the chores. And if I'm just schlepping around and want to hear some music, I should either keep it low or put on earphones so as not to interfere with her repeated listenings of Elvis Costello outtakes, Beck's Mutations, The Apples in Stereo, or The Minders. This is not an indictment. You all know I love her with all of my being.) J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:49:15 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: black market music, indeed! >From: Eb >Anyone care to inform me about the further U.S. label departures of any of >these folks? Chris Cornell, Spiritualized, Sinead O'Connor, Elastica, Meat >[...] >Cracker, Blur, Placebo, Sean Lennon, Bis, Moby, Grandaddy, Ministry, the The new Placebo isn't even coming out domestically, is it? It's not very good, but still. >From: grutness@surf4nix.com > >Hot daing but I'm glad this is slowly dislodging the comics thread from the >list! It wasn't that bad. I deleted three different drafts of emails bitching about that bicycle thread a while back. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:26:22 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: tech weenie question Eb: >After something like 18 years, my stereo headphones have suddenly died. >(They were Sennheiser's.) Or at least, one ear has died. > >Does anyone have brand/model recommendations for reasonably priced >headphones? We're talking 1/4-inch plug here, not the Walkman/computer >variety. Seems like whenever I spot headphones in stores, they're always >for Walkmans rather than da big boxes. Sennheiser ------------------ www.sennheiserusa.com/pages/products/evolution/headphoneindex.htm www.sennheiserusa.com/pages/products/headphones/400index.htm There are plenty of other Sennheiser models that you can look at. I've still got my HD410SL's (the one's with the yellow pads) that I bought years ago. Grado ---------- www.gradolabs.com I've got a pair of SR125 headphones that I like quite a bit. You can find a load of reviews at: www.audioreview.com/reviews/Headphone/product_5434.shtml In essence, Grado makes only one style. As you pay more, the materials and driver quality go up. The 125's are considered a bargain at the price. Audio Advisor has both brands, and some pretty good deals on a couple of Sennheiser models here: www.audioadvisor.com/browsecategory.cfm?CategoryID=HEADPHON Especially tempting is the discontinued HP 580 deal. - - Steve __________ If they know our secrets, why can't we know theirs? - Dana Scully ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:43:35 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: 0% Robyn, %100 me, 0% commerce Like everyone else you've ever met I'm a musician and songwriter. For close to 20 years I've been making home demos for my friends (I'm older than God, who is roughly 37 in God-years). I've never made any effort to be heard beyond that little group and sure enough, I haven't been. My latest batch of songs is the first I've done entirely on the PC, and the first I've done in collaboration with another lyricist. It's turning out well enough that I thought it might be interesting to make one of these songs available to fegdom. Not that being a feg would necessarily predispose one to like the stuff I do. But you're by and large a thoughtful group, and your opinions frequently help shape (and sometimes horribly mangle and distort) my own. I've been using the nom-de-bullshit "Bicycle Thieves" for more than 10 years, and I'm still using it even though I know of at least 2 bands that are currently using some variation on that name. So I guess a new name is in order (I wonder if Eddie would let me use "Asshole and the Motherfuckers"). The URL below is for a companion site to the next Bicycle Thieves CD-single, which once again is intended just for my friends, though we might see how many pennies we can make at MP3.com sometime in the future. Cavalier.mp3 is around 8 megs so dial-up users might want to pack a lunch. Obviously I'm after feedback, and of course that should happen off list. It's always good to be told by a stranger that you suck, or don't suck, but I'm also interested in swapping technology advice or criticism, production tips and the like with the other recording musicians on the list. Thanks in advance to anybody who takes the time to listen, and to everybody else for indulging my stab at self-promotion. - -Brian (this one) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:49:21 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: tech weenie question Steve: > I've got a pair of SR125 headphones that I like quite a bit. I'll second the SR125. My current favorites. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:04:10 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: more of this comics shit On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, hbrandt wrote: > K: > > > As one of the librarian fegs...may I answer? --you > > think we listen to request!?! Large library syatems basically contract > > their book buying out cept for a few very special items indeed. The people > > who decide what you see in the large bookchains are pretty much the people > > who decide what you see in public libraries. This has happpened pretty much > > in only the last 15 years and its a scandal--but a cost-effective one > > so...everyone agrees not to notice. > > I assumed libraries had budgets, but (naively) I had no idea that book > buying was controlled like that. Thanks for the wake-up. Libraries and > Radio Stations: Public Services, But Please - No Requests!! There is more to it than that. Most libraries do contract out their acquistions programs but this usually means they sign up for an Approval plan and the bookseller send books that get reviewed and if they decide to keep em then they pay for them otherwise they send em back. Large systems usually have this sort of set up, which is actually better than just ordering out of catalogs off of book reviews. But small systems and cash strapped systems often go with the sort of set up described above My own experience with the Seattle Public Library has been very good. I often request comic book collections or "graphic novels" and usually they pick it up however they are more likely to buy something from DC or Marvel which use mainstream distribution channels for their tradepaperbacks than is to buy a small press book which they wont be able to get at a discount. Also i read that there was lecture at the ALA conference last monthm where some librarian in Ohio or some other Midwest state talked about the importance and utility of comic books in libraries. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "I don't speak fascist." -Grant Morrison ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:00:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: tech weenie question >There are plenty of other Sennheiser models that you can look at. I've >still got my HD410SL's (the one's with the yellow pads) that I bought >years ago. Ha! That's what I have...the newly broken ones I've had for years. :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:05:49 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Bo Diddley > Bo was a big influence on Buddy Holly (who > recorded 'Bo Diddley), The Rolling Stones (who recorded 'Can't judge a > book' and 'Diddley daddy'), the Animals (who recorded 'Roadrunner'), > Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks (who recorded 'Who do you love?' and a > corking record it is too), The Troggs (who recorded 'Mona'), Captain > Beefheart and his Magic Band (who recorded 'Diddy Wah Diddy') and many > others. ...and by the way, can you say "Wey Wey Hep Uh Hole"? - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:14:55 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: History of Rock > Any history of rock would be remiss if it didn't include the following: > > http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf > > (Be sure to have the sound on your computer turned up) > > Rock on! > > == > > paul This is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:43:10 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: 50 years in 18 hours >>If I were Ken Burns Chuck Berry would be my Louis Armstrong. > > Nah, I think Dylan would be the Great Man. Nah, there's no way Dylan invented Rock & Roll as Burns implies Armstong invented Jazz. He came along too late for that. Dylan *changed* Rock & Roll, so that would make him Duke Ellington or something. You could certainly argue that Chuck Berry invented Rock & Roll. Also, "Ding-A-Ling" would be Chuck's "Hello Dolly". > Actually, the more interesting question would be whom Burns would choose as > his *Wynton Marsalis*. Let's see...who's a household name, articulate, a > student of music history and prone to grumble about rock music moving away > from its original roots? Possibly Neil Young. Oh wait...articulate. How 'bout that guy from Metallica? Oh wait, he wouldn't grumble. Jackson Browne? Yeah, Jackson Brown fits that description. Of course you'd have to include an interview with "Buck O'Neil, Baseball Player" in there somewhere to make it an official Ken Burns documentary. - -rUss, still laughing at Seqor Gloster's last post. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:45:11 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Soft Boys Questions 1. Three tracks from Kimberley's "Bible Of Bop" were basically the Soft Boys with Kimberley singing lead. Was there ever any thought of including one of those songs (or any others with a Rew lead vocal) on a Soft Boys album? 2. (follow up question) Did Kimberley have a desire to contribute more to the Soft Boys in the area of songwriting and/or singing, and what role, if any did that play in the split? 3. Where the hell is Andy? Can't we all get along? 4. Okay, not directly related to the Soft Boys, but while he's got 'em there I gotta know: was Robyn Hitchcock the "Hitchcock" who produced the Sex Beatles 45? - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 23:21:51 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: 50 years in 18 hours >>>If I were Ken Burns Chuck Berry would be my Louis Armstrong. >> >> Nah, I think Dylan would be the Great Man. > >Nah, there's no way Dylan invented Rock & Roll as Burns implies Armstong >invented Jazz. Well, that's true. But Berry's creative vitality doesn't extend across a lengthy epoch of time like Armstrong's did, and I think that would be more important to Burns as a storyteller than whether Berry was "first." Anyway, it would be awfully hard to portray Berry in that "divine gift from God" light which Burns favors. Especially, given all those coprophilia tales which have been spread around in recent years.... Eb, imagining Burns' awestruck, reverent account of Berry's spiritually uplifting, "Ding-a-Ling"-fueled comeback in the '70s ;) PS I didn't check that "Hatten ar Din" link until somebody else responded to it, but that was *awesome*! Best link that has been posted here in awhile. :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 00:00:18 -0800 From: "Motherfucking Asshole" Subject: give my regards to fuck-stick <> peace, justice, liberty, community, dump the fucking bosses off your backs... what's not to agree with? I'm sure everyone here would agree with that, as far as it goes; but we can and do disagree over *how* these laudable goals can be achieved. And when your goals are that general (not to say vague), the how is really what politics is all about.> fair enough. but do you think they're so vague as to preclude a general decoding of lies and questioning of authority? for example, how seriously can you take any sort of rhetoric regarding the first coming from a country which allocates half its budget to the military and exports more armaments than the rest of the world combined? a doctor once told me those cause brain cancer. (not the specific make/model, i don't think. just wireless headphones in general.) make of that what you will. fuck yeah! i've been meaning to post about this for quite some time (and as recently as a few days ago). cannot, repeat cannot get enough of this album. criminally overlooked, i say. i think i'm going to put it on right now, matter of fact. <(I wonder if Eddie would let me use "Asshole and the Motherfuckers").> hey, i've no claim on the phrase "asshole motherfucker": i learnt it from raymond huffman. Ray: I don't wanna have to kill you, you fuckin' cocksucker! But you are a lyin' cocksucker, and the world, the world would have been better off if you'd have died when you were young. You ain't a human being, you're a goddamn asshole motherfucker. ... Ray: You wanna fuck with me? Go ahead. Go ahead. Here I am ready for you, you fucking piece of shit. Peter: Well, if you want to attack, you attack. Ray: I'm ready even now, you fuckin' piece of -- Peter: Well you aren't doing it. You aren't doing it. Ray: Why should I attack you, you fuckin' piece of shit? Peter: Because that's what you do. You're a dirty little man. You kick me in the balls. You did this up here. It's always you attacking. This time, I'm saying I attack. Ray: You asshole motherfucker. Peter: No. I'm not an asshole motherfucker and you know it. You are a weak little bastard that is old and isn't able to do anything anymore. Ray: That's not true. < http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf > this is *exactly* like the music my co-workers listen to. if anybody cares. <3. Where the hell is Andy? Can't we all get along?> yeah, i passed this one along to sebastian as well. (of course, i managed to phrase the question w/out so much cursing...) "We have long understood that words have different meanings for the oppressors and the oppressed." --Ho Chi Minh "America has this problem that it wants to erase its own past. Otherwise, it's a great place." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Robyn's place in rock history Yes, it's a moribund thread, but it's the weekend, time of few posts. If you'd rather read something amusing, click here: http://news.excite.com/news/ap/010209/13/ebay-soul-sale On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Russ Reynolds wrote: > >> What was his highest charting song? Did he ever reach the top 10? The top > >> 20? > > > > What has this to do with how good his music is, or even how influential he > > is to other musicians? > > Nothing. But I would assume that a documentary about rock music would focus > on artists that made some sort of impact. Personally, charts and dollar figures and even concert attendance don't mean much. These measures are peculiar to rock and pop anyway. Think of all the other acts besides Buffett who rank above RH when you only look at numbers, or how well known they are. Backstreet Boys, Milli Vanilli and Britney to name just three. (I guess it depends how you define "rock"... you could also insert journey, reo speedwagon and air supply, i suppose. My point is, it's criminal to use such figures to measure importance of this sort. My documentary would feature artists selected for how fascinating they are, not for their (negative?) "impact.") Unfortunately to this point I > don't think Robyn's music has made much of an impact on anyone outside of > his small but loyal fan base. I disagree, I think he's well known and influential to musicians, as I said. Yes, you're right, not all of them are famous. But I do think RH is a link in the rock chain, maybe not all that well known to the general public, but to my mind that's why we make documentaries, to educate the public. > > And what does session work have to do with anything? He's a songwriter, > > not a hired gun. > > I was just rebutting a claim that he's a "musician's musician". I guess > maybe my definition of this term may not be the same as yours...I'm assuming > it means he's gained a greater respect among musicians for being a good > musician himself than he has among the public. I didn't take songwriting > into account, but I would still argue that the level of awareness and > appreciation for his music is about the same among his peers as it is among > the general public. I could be wrong here, though. Well, about half the folks on the list seem to be musicans, so make of that what you will. :) I've heard both musos and non-musos praise his playing, but I think it's his music and lyrics that are most impressive. Not sure what the original poster (sorry, forgot who) meant my musician's musician. > Yes, but who could forget all his earlier posts as "Wendy"... Ah, the good old days... > HAS been overlooked. The one thing Robyn's got going for him is critical > acclaim but even that has been inconsistant. I would say it's been largely quite positive. You'll find very few outright pans in eddie's http://feedthefish.org/archive . And note how with many an album, the critics suggest that mainstream acceptance and a household name might finally be on the way for the long-underground hitch. They seem to suggest that he deserves it. And yes, Ebbio ranks RH a B+, but don't forget he also ranks him 39 or 40 in his list (if i recall.) That's no small potatoes in a list that is probably hundreds long. > So I'm all for continuing the crusade but let's not delude ourselves into > thinking he's made enough of an impact to warrant a mention in a documentary > on the genre, 18 hours or not. Perhaps in 20 years, though...if we keep up > the crusade. A nice thought... he's stood the test of time for over 20 years so far, I hope he continues to make music and tour for another 20. by that time this list will be as old as i am now! thanks for reading. =b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:48:03 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: 50 years in 18 hours > imagining Burns' awestruck, reverent account of Berry's spiritually > uplifting, "Ding-a-Ling"-fueled comeback in the '70s Far more intriguing would be Burns' awestruck, reverent account of Berry's spiritually bankrupt documented propensity for bathroom hidden cameras and all things scatalogical. "Brown-eyed" Handsome Man, indeed! /hal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: dissing aardvarks On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, dmw wrote: > i think it was about where we learned that the universe was supposedly > created by a male energy force raping a female void that i had to give > up. perhaps i am living in a fool's paradise, but i *think* that incident was supposed to be the perspective of... geez, i forget now. some character with an agenda who we weren't supposed to wholly believe. was it The Judge? anyway, when i read Sim's own commentary on Cerebus i usually discover that he holds some totally appalling belief, but it's generally not exactly the appalling belief that i had suspected he might have after reading the comics in question. the thing is, there are lots of characters in Cerebus that make me roll my eyes and think "Dave Sim just stuck this guy in as a mouthpiece for his own opinions". these characters sometimes contradict each other. this doesn't mean they aren't all Sim's spokespeople, though -- the best part of the book, in my opinion, is the way he captures inner dialogue. over the course of 30 years and god known how many dollars of fan money, he's sitting in a room with himself, having a couple of beers and engaging in one of those bullshitting sessions that mostly happen in college dorms. he's proud of the fact that he doesn't have to invite anyone else except maybe some dead author guys, and i guess he's earned the right both to do that and to be proud of it, but, as many people find, solitude seems to make the expression of his views drift toward extremes. that said, he's obsessed with gender -- with the idea that there are huge and inherent differences between men and women -- and it's led him to say some cruel and shitty things about women. hal's defense of him makes it sound like he's regularly accused of being a serial killer, and by upping the ante in that way, it becomes easy to bat away the criticism. a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:28:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Robyn's place in rock history Bayard: >Personally, charts and dollar figures and even concert attendance don't >mean much. These measures are peculiar to rock and pop anyway. Think of >all the other acts besides Buffett who rank above RH when you only look at >numbers, or how well known they are. Backstreet Boys, Milli Vanilli and >Britney to name just three. (I guess it depends how you define "rock"... >you could also insert journey, reo speedwagon and air supply, i suppose. >My point is, it's criminal to use such figures to measure importance of >this sort. My documentary would feature artists selected for how >fascinating they are, not for their (negative?) "impact.") This line has been working for me, lately: "Whew, talk about a purist." Or perhaps in this case, an idealist.... >> Yes, but who could forget all his earlier posts as "Wendy"... > >Ah, the good old days... I do remember my newbie posts as "The other Broome" (since when I joined, the list was dominated by *Rex* Broome and Susan D. playing cutesyfootsie ad nauseam).... >And yes, Ebbio ranks RH a B+, but don't forget he also ranks him 39 or 40 >in his list (if i recall.) That's no small potatoes in a list that is >probably hundreds long. Eh, don't bother. I tried to comfort folks with this explanation the first time around, and it went nowhere. ;) And actually, he'd probably rank several notches *higher* than #39/40. Appropos of nothing, I'd like to mention that Crispin Glover himself has apparently posted a salute to Claudine Longet on her ArtistDirect bulletin board. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:29:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: speak of the devil, Andrew.... PLACEBO'S BLACK MARKET MUSIC TO FINALLY SEE STATESIDE RELEASE, TOUR TO FOLLOW Seven months after its release in the U.K., Placebo's Black Market Music will finally hit American record stores on May 8 via Virgin Records. FULL STORY: http://p04.com/t.d?SEUfbwve=/cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=249339 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:26:01 -0700 From: Eb Subject: But what are their favorite colors? I stumbled upon this curious old blurb, and typed it up for you folks.... E. Bro - ------ The Soft Boys The most beautiful aspect of the Soft Boys is brotherhood. They really like each other. Quoting Robyn: "If we weren't bandmates, we'd be the best of friends." They are not phonies and they are not imitators. The Soft Boys are real people. Their music is real and as lifelike as their personalities. The Soft Boys did not need gimmicks nor stimulants to take them to the top. No, they are not super-people. They are realistic people. They have reached the top on sheer talent. People can say it can't work. It has worked. The pictures in this album do tell a story. The Soft Boys have come to the top. Hopefully, the Soft Boys and this album will make the music field a better place for everyone. Now, meet and hear the Soft Boys: Robyn, Kimberley, Morris and Andy. Andy is the soulful leader of the group. He has a singing quality that any lead singer would strive for. Andy is the bass player and probably the fastest in the business. Andy is a talkative person. He can talk to anyone on just about any subject, and is always eager to learn something new each day. He is the optimist's optimist. If there is a half-empty glass of milk, Andy sees it as half-full. Andy's best quality is happiness. Anyone that meets him goes away with a little better outlook on life. He makes you happy that you are you. Andy is the trend setter in fashion, dance and song. He loves to experiment... As for Andy's vital statistics, he is 5'11", 140 pounds, has brown hair and hazel eyes. Morris is the unbelievable drummer of the group. Offstage, Morris jokes a lot. He is the one that has one-hundred different ideas coming all at once. But on stage, Morris is the premier drummer in popular music today. If there were a way to describe Morris (you really can't -- Morris is Morris), you would have to list his laughter as his best quality. When he laughs, the whole group laughs. It must be his personality that makes him this way. But whatever it is, the whole group is thankful for Morris. Morris is 5'11", 135 pounds, has brown hair and brown eyes. Kimberley is the quiet member of the group. It is not that he is shy, but he talks only when he feels it is necessary. Kimberley is a very spiritual person. If anyone can make you feel wanted at times when you are not sure, Kimberley is the person that can do it. He is content that he is doing his best possible job. Kimberley's most important quality is spiritual contentment. Kimberley is always himself. He feels the same as the other members: "It's just too hard to act 24 hours a day." Kimberley plays rhythm guitar and he plays it expertly. Like the other boys, it is not unusual for Kimberley to be called to do someone's studio session. As for vital statistics, Kimberley is 5'11", 150 pounds, and has brown eyes and brown hair. Robyn is the leader of the group. He's very concerned about "now" things. Like all the members, Robyn is a very peaceful and sensitive person. He has a place in his heart for almost anything. He is the type of person you like to call your friend. He's understanding, brotherly, and a warm person. That is Robyn's most important quality -- warmth. Perhaps Robyn's warmth has rubbed off onto other people. After meeting Robyn and the Soft Boys, you must think twice before doing anything wrong. Robyn plays lead guitar for the group. He has attained perfection on this instrument and can play many instruments with an expert touch. As for vital statistics, he's 6'1", 160 pounds, brown eyes and has dark brown hair. Now you have met the Soft Boys. They are professional in every sense of the word. In the 1950's it was a man who wriggled his way to stardom who became a phenomenon. In the 1960's, four long-hair lads from England invaded the world and became a phenomenon. And now, in the 1980's, four boys from Cambridge are going down that same golden path. Their era has just begun! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #39 *******************************