From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #26 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 30 2001 Volume 10 : Number 026 Today's Subjects: ----------------- with apologies to Tolkien [Bayard ] Re: Country Stations Shun Best-Selling Movie Soundtrack [Asshole Motherfu] Sonic Book/SB Toronto ["brian nupp" ] Re: goodbye maurice or steve [Eb ] [none] ["Irish Airman" ] Re: la Liz [Eb ] Fw: Soft Boys Detroit ["Brian" ] Re: Sonic Book/SB Toronto ["Sean Palmerston" ] roxy post roxy ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: roxy post roxy [Capuchin ] Re: Sonic Book/SB Toronto [recount chocula ] Re: Country Stations Shun Best-Selling Movie Soundtrack ["Chris Gillis!" ] Re: Mr. Sparkle? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: could Eno have played "She Sells"? [Ben ] Anybody that still can't see the difference between Bush and Gore? [steve] beg your pardon? no, but you can buy it. [GSS ] don't talk to me about... [Bayard ] Re: Mr. Sparkle? [Tom Clark ] Re: Anybody that still can't see the difference between Bush and Gore? [T] Re: beg your pardon? no, but you can buy it. [Tom Clark ] Re: don't talk to me about... [Eclipse ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:23:15 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: with apologies to Tolkien On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Glen Uber wrote: > Linux for stability > Macintosh for productivity > Palm for portability > Windows for Solitaire Linux for the Unixers (they must be high) Mac OS for the Jobsites (they, too, must be stoned) AmigaDos for McEwen's box, doomed to die Windows for the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne In the land of Redmond where the shadows lie One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them One OS to steal them all and in the darkness bind them In the land of Redmond where the shadows lie. ="reno = frodo"b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:25:07 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: Country Stations Shun Best-Selling Movie Soundtrack kind of interesting that the story mirrors the movie (the record goes "through the god damn roof", *then* radio stations start getting on top of it, lest they get beat out by the "competition"). also, it's not terribly surprising to see that the soundtrack is racking up such big sales. the movie is really drawing (at least in seattle). the lines were huge on opening weekend, but i attributed this to the cult of coen, plus its opening on only one screen. but having seen it now during its third through fifth weeks, i can remark that the seating bowl is still quite full (a rarity for coen films). clooney won a golden globe, but tim blake nelson and charles durning *really* deserve oscar nominations (as, of course, do the soundtrack and the cinematrography). KEN "Do...not...seek...the treasure" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:39:59 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Sonic Book/SB Toronto Well, the lady at Sonic Book responded to my inquiry about the RH book. The minimum I could purchase is 100 books @ 15500.00 lira (I think that's about $7.50) each. Plus freight and duty I sure. Of course, I'm not gonna buy 100 of them to get one for myself and a dozen others. Do we have enough people on the list to take 100? Any one find out where else to get this book? Also, I dunno why my forward didn't foward, but David Greenberger sent me an email and said the Soft Boys will be at the "Horse Shoe" in Toronto. All other dates are still TBA. Mr. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:42:21 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: goodbye maurice or steve >As for the DJ, he needs to quit >saying "...bu' anyway..." so much. > >/hal, who can't stand DJ "crutch phrases" aka "the verbal pause" Also grating: How Howard Stern frequently fills such pauses with "But what can I tell ya?" Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:56:50 -0500 From: "Irish Airman" Subject: [none] Somepeople wrote: >>Those who didn't get enough of "Elizabeth Taylor's Bizarro World" on the >>Golden Globes can get a full one-hour dose on CNN tonight (9pm EST). >for those who don't know what in the sam hell the multitude of liz >globes behaviour references from all media are precisely referring >to (the husky basketball announcer even made a crack about it the >other night), someone wanna elucidate just what it is that she did >and/or said that's got the whole entire world up-in-arms? She--due to whatever reason fits best with your mythology--gave the term whifty a new meaning. She did not seem to understand that she needed to read the list of nominees first, before tearing open and reading aloud the enveloped winner(not that he would have objected--sorry, just whifting out on my own weird grammer;-). Dick Clark, fresh young fellow that he is, had to come out and "assist" her. I thought it was pretty funny because--in full and utter whiftyness, she nevertheless drew herself up to her entire, what? 5'2'? of height and flitatiously but imperiously opined that she didnt know how to give one of these things cause -she- always got one. Really, when Im half that senile/drunk/medicated into oblivion,whatever, I hope to hell I can give off half as much attitude. It was so dysfunctional it was the triumph, nay, the apothosis(sp?) of the Bizarro Speaking of Bizarro World Overbury wrote: >The real Bowie prototype is, of course, Anthony Newley. So--you also own Bowies cover of "For Once in my Life." I can see it. I can hear it. Goooood one . K _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:29:37 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: la Liz >She--due to whatever reason fits best with your mythology--gave the term >whifty a new meaning. She did not seem to understand that she needed to read >the list of nominees first, before tearing open and reading aloud the >enveloped winner(not that he would have objected--sorry, just whifting out >on my own weird grammer;-). Dick Clark, fresh young fellow that he is, had >to come out and "assist" her. I thought it was pretty funny because--in full >and utter whiftyness, she nevertheless drew herself up to her entire, what? >5'2'? of height and flitatiously but imperiously opined that she didnt know >how to give one of these things cause -she- always got one. You know, there's GOT to be a Real Audio file available on the Web, somewhere. :) One of the most inexplicable things for me was right at the end, as the music finally drowned her out, she sorta lifted her hands, robotically waved her head and babbled something like "Y'all, y'all, y'all...." That was TOTALLY from outer space. Then there's the other story going around, about how she walked offstage and presented Dick Clark with a $6,000 bill for her hair and makeup.... And what IS the deal with Dick Clark, anyway? He's in the upper-upper crust of Hollywood television executives, richrichrichrichrich and godknowshowold, and yet he's *still* keen on taking these pathetic, celebrity-parasite interviewer gigs which should be going to 20something implant-bimbos. He doesn't seem particularly egotistical/narcissistic to me...why does he do so much gratuitous on-camera work? Seems far beneath him. Just *once*, I'd like to see him throw one of those dopey softball how-does-it-feel questions at someone, receive a flippant answer, and suddenly inflate himself and snarl "YOU KNOW, I COULD BUY AND SELL YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, YOU SMARMY LITTLE PIPSQUEAK...." :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:05:59 -0500 From: "Brian" Subject: Fw: Soft Boys Detroit Thought I would forward this to all who are interested: Brian Nupp - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Brian" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: Soft Boys Detroit > Brian, > > sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The only new confirmation > that's come through is for Toronto (Horse Shoe), everythiungs else is still > as posted on the site and awaiting more confirmations. > > Best wishes, > > DAvid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:34:58 -0500 From: "Sean Palmerston" Subject: Re: Sonic Book/SB Toronto - ----- Original Message ----- From: brian nupp > Also, I dunno why my forward didn't foward, but David Greenberger sent me an > email and said the Soft Boys will be at the "Horse Shoe" in Toronto. All > other dates are still TBA. Yes, and actually tickets are already on sale for the Toronto show. I bought mine on Saturday. They were a little expensive ($21 CDN), but as a longtime fan I am excited. Oh, andy by the way, this is my first post here. Hi! Sean Palmerston ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:56:32 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: roxy post roxy >From: Eb > >Drew: > >I'm concerned it was all downhill for them after the first record > >As I said once before about a certain Peter Sellers fan, "Wow, talk about a >purist." Heh. Really it's just that I love _Roxy Music_ from start to finish, and it's the only album that totally lacks what I would consider "bloat." After that -- and I'm sorry I can't articulate this more clearly or intelligently -- there are always some points on each album where the whole affair just sags exhaustingly and I want to fast forward but it's tough 'cause I only have them on cassette. I definitely like individual songs as much as (almost) anything on _Roxy Music_, but there aren't whole albums where I'm ecstatic the same way. Plus I dislike a lot of RM standards, like "Do the Strand," "The Bogus Man," and "Love is the Drug." My lifelong loathing for the saxophone as rock instrument is a big problem in this arena as well. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:22:53 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: roxy post roxy On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > My lifelong loathing for the saxophone as rock instrument is a big > problem in this arena as well. Apply two listenings of X-Ray Spex "Germ-Free Adolescents" daily until condition clears. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:00:39 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: Sonic Book/SB Toronto when we last left our heroes, brian nupp (bnupp@hotmail.com) exclaimed: >Well, the lady at Sonic Book responded to my inquiry about the RH book. The >minimum I could purchase is 100 books @ 15500.00 lira (I think that's about >$7.50) each. Plus freight and duty I sure. Of course, I'm not gonna buy 100 >of them to get one for myself and a dozen others. Do we have enough people >on the list to take 100? Any one find out where else to get this book? didn't someone post recently that amazon.com would be carrying the book? >Also, I dunno why my forward didn't foward, but David Greenberger sent me an >email and said the Soft Boys will be at the "Horse Shoe" in Toronto. All >other dates are still TBA. majordomo's administrivia filter caught it. i've bounced the message though -- fear not. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:28:07 -0800 From: "Chris Gillis!" Subject: Re: Country Stations Shun Best-Selling Movie Soundtrack Capuchin wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, steve wrote: > > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/style/television/A32217-2001Jan22.html > > This article doesn't even touch on the REAL reason they won't play it. > > It's great and it's not new. > > Radio has strong ties to the recording industry and the recording industry > has to keep us buying new records all the time in order to keep going. Geez, I give you guys a full day to reply to this and nobody's bullshit meter goes off. I gotta disagree here... Modern radio of the last five to ten years has little to do with selling records as any sort of primary goal. This is self evident by listening to any given commercial, FM station for more than a week. Ad time is the bread and butter for these outfits. If you think anything less than this listen to a "Good Times, Great Oldies" format station and you soon see that the lack of diversity in the play list and the amount of ad and promotional spots indicate it is nothing less. Consolidation of ownership of radio station by a few major enterprises that Jeme referred to is a means to increase the ability of radio stations to place sales and marketing in the enviable position of offering their customers packages that secure more than just spots, but coverage with multiple stations. There is a reason they call it a 'format.' Not because of any sort of ideal music being played but the listener is attracted to it and the potential is there to sell promotional time reaching that 'market segment.' Record companies have and make use of mediums far beyond radio to sell their product. Large record stores and TV are key among these. Radio falls down there on the list. > There's nothing country > about it. What is a name? > And when you put up real country music... What is in a name plus and adjective? > you find a similar disparity in > sincerity and talent. There is no accounting for taste. > For goodness' sake, there are all kinds of reasons why radio shuns > quality. For goodness' sake, there is no reason that commercial radio is about quality. Don't get lost in liberal-media-my-knickers-are-twisted-so-there-must-be-a-conspiracy-against-the-people fantasy. It is a business. True, it is help over our public airways, but it is nothing that the people were told about. After all, it is the law (no matter how crappy and sad in practice). I say this because I love radio. I suffer through promotion and commercial after promotion after commercial to hear a few brilliant songs repeated over and over. Some how I never tire of those songs and keep coming back after my tolerance builds up. I wish there would be no commercials and all stations would be low-watt community oriented in some fashion, but it ain't gonna happen soon. (If you doubt it, see the recent low-watt regulations passed by the FCC. Sadly, former media-backwater NPR opposed low-watt stations. This urks me to no end, yet does not surprise.) Interestingly enough, one of the best commercial stations around is Disney Radio. A format targeted towards the early teen and under set plus a few parents. The crass promotions and commercials are few less here and the content broadcasted is brilliantly done with a focus on what the audience might like (yes there is a fair amount of Disney product, but not overwhelming)--all this without the titillation and nonsense that many stations attract listeners. Kindly, .chris - -- chris@photogenica.net http://photogenica.net - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:03:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Mr. Sparkle? brian nupp wrote: > >From: Jeff Dwarf >> it was the first one i saw, so i'm not sure how i'd rank >> it. chiton was awful though. and he did do "grooving on an inner >> plane".... > Chilton or Hitchcock did "grooving on an inner plane?" robyn. he divided the audience in three parts to sing the "Wang-Beaux"s in rounds. he also did "I Got a Message For You," which (since the US vinyl copy of _invisible hitchcock_ was the only thing i had other than Perspex Island at the time) i also was relieved by since it was nice hearing a song I recognized. ===== "With [Amnesiac] we are definitely having singles, videos, glossy magazine celebrity photo shoots, children's television appearances, film premiere appearances, dance routines, and many interesting interviews about my tortured existence." -- Thom Yorke __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:17:17 -0500 From: Ben Subject: Re: could Eno have played "She Sells"? > Drew: > >I'm concerned it was all downhill for them after the first record > > As I said once before about a certain Peter Sellers fan, "Wow, talk about a > purist." If you want to see some great video of Roxy w/ Eno get the "Musikladen" DVD (also with T-Rex). It has great performances of material from their first 2 albums, and Eno is decked out in a Marilyn Manson-esque birdman costume, surrounded by all kinds of electronic gadgetry - lots of fun! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:06:01 -0600 From: steve Subject: Anybody that still can't see the difference between Bush and Gore? http://www.salon.com/politics/wire/2001/01/30/recount_lawyer/index.html - - Steve __________ Well, Jesus ain't no astronaut And Buddah, he's no fool Cathedral bells don't ring in hell 'cos cats down there don't think that's cool. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:40:52 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: beg your pardon? no, but you can buy it. Hey splangies, I have the nick drake syndrome again. This was probably discussed before, but I found 'fruit tree' for 49 bucks. Is it worth it? It looks good, but will I be missing anything by getting this as opposed to each individual album? It is apparently the entire recorded ouptut of drake, plus!!!! Does anyone have 'way to blue' and or 'time of no reply' and what do these releases have that 'fruit tree' doesn't, ie.. notes, remixes, extra tracks in songs or whatever. So back to original question, should i buy the individual albums or should I just get 'fruit tree'? gss np - hazy jane ii ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:48:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: don't talk to me about... Gene Hackman is 71 years old today. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:28:31 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Mr. Sparkle? on 1/29/01 11:47 AM, Glen Uber at uberg@sonic.net wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, brian nupp wrote: > >>> From: Jeff Dwarf it was the first one i saw, so i'm not sure how i'd rank >>> it. chiton was >>> awful though. and he did do "grooving on an inner plane".... >>> >> >> Chilton or Hitchcock did "grooving on an inner plane?" > > Hitchcock did. It was an audience participation bit with all of us yelling > out "Wangbo!" when cued. IIRC that was the second RH show I attended. The > first one was at Slim's in San Francisco (w/ Matthew Sweet opening) right > after Raymond died (Feb. 1991?). > The reason I say it was the worst RH show I've ever seen is basically because that was the tour where Andy accompanied way too many songs on an electric piano. That lent a real Vegas atmosphere to the proceedings. Remember Robyn's quote about how "middle aged men should not be touring around in a rock band"? Well, this tour exemplified why. That was also when he introduced the pseudo-disco version of "Only The Stones Remain". Blasphemy. Of course, if those middle aged men constitute The Soft Boys... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:30:17 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Anybody that still can't see the difference between Bush and Gore? on 1/30/01 7:06 AM, steve at schiavo@home.com wrote: > http://www.salon.com/politics/wire/2001/01/30/recount_lawyer/index.html > > So are you implying that if Gore had won, there's no chance he would have appointed HIS lawyer to that post? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:38:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: beg your pardon? no, but you can buy it. on 1/30/01 8:40 AM, GSS at gshell@metronet.com wrote: > I have the nick drake syndrome again. > Beats the hell out of the chest cold I've been suffering from. > This was probably discussed before, but I found 'fruit tree' for 49 bucks. > Is it worth it? It looks good, but will I be missing anything by getting > this as opposed to each individual album? It is apparently the entire > recorded ouptut of drake, plus!!!! > I first bought "Way To Blue" and liked it so much I gave it to my brother and bought "Fruit Tree". Fruit Tree has the original albums in their entirety - no "bonus tracks", plus the CD of extras. It isn't his entire output, though; obviously there are demos and bootlegs floating around. Buy "Fruit Tree". - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:18:20 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Mr. Sparkle? >From: Tom Clark The reason I say it was the worst RH show I've ever seen is >basically >because that was the tour where Andy accompanied way too many songs on an >electric piano. That lent a real Vegas atmosphere to the proceedings. >Remember Robyn's quote about how "middle aged men should not be touring >around in a rock band"? Well, this tour exemplified why. That was also >when he introduced the pseudo-disco version of "Only The Stones Remain". >Blasphemy. > Really? I loved this about the Perspex Island tour. I was totally blown away by the crooning vegas stuff. My wife and my dead wife was absolutely hilarious and emotional at the same time. I could easily listen to a whole album of live stuff like that. And the pseude-disco version of stones I loved too. That one really caught me by surprise. So full of energy. Just my opinion. According to Eddie this was also the 1st time the Yip Song was ever performed. God, I can't believe that was 9 years ago... Brian Nupp >Of course, if those middle aged men constitute The Soft Boys... > >-tc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:27:51 -0800 (PST) From: Eclipse Subject: Re: don't talk to me about... hmm my sources say he is 70.. though imdb does report his birth year as 1930. i had no idea! obliviously, Eclipse - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@best.com If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Bayard wrote: > Gene Hackman is 71 years old today. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #26 *******************************