From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #22 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 26 2001 Volume 10 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- son of fatman ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] world of wild beards inc. [bibi gellert ] Soft Boys at 9:30 [DDerosa5@aol.com] RE: reaper radio ["Bachman, Michael" ] Soft Boys in DC ["Sean Bartnik" ] Re: Soft Boys in DC [dmw ] Re: reaper radio [Eb ] Re: Soft Boys in DC [Bayard ] Re: reaper radio [hbrandt ] Re: son of fatman [recount chocula ] OK, so she can't spell "Robyn" ;) [Eb ] son of fatman ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: Soft Boys in DC [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: discs in heat ["Stewart C. Russell" ] OT: streaming video ["mike hooker" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:41 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: son of fatman Just been to see Fattest Man In Rock TM, David Thomas, who must weigh considerably more than both the Two Pale Boys combined. Got the new Thomas and 2PBs album, Surf's Up, on which they do a good cover of that very track. (How about Brian Wilson doing 30 Seconds Over Tokyo ;-)) Of interest to Scott McCaughey fans: check out what he has to say about Northwest Battle Of The Bands - Volume 1 at www.acerecords.co.uk Underwater Moonlight launch party is over here on 11th of March so I doubt there'll be any American gigs before then. jmbc. Who can no longer get into his size 38s. Mr Winkworth has the photos to show that, though I don't think he's posted them yet. When I was in a band Melody Maker once described me as looking like 'Robbie Coltrane's younger brother....' PPS Bob 'The Bear' Hite of Canned Heat was a big lad... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:47:31 -0500 (EST) From: bibi gellert Subject: world of wild beards inc. I just had an odd message through on the "Nothing Happening" list, which concentrates on the Australia/New Zealand indie scene. Anyway, according to Dylan Pellet of Flying Nun records, on Feb. 4th, the band World of Wild Beards Incorporated will debut at the King's Arms in Auckland. This band consists of Jeff Mangum and Laura Carter of Neutral Milk Hotel, and my personal favorite, Chris Knox. Should be a hell of a show, and it's just one more (in a list of many) reasons why I should move to Auckland. According to a rumour passed on by another list member, Mangum has supposedly moved to NZ to work on an organic farm-however, what is true is that he is in NZ. Bibi Gellert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:07:16 EST From: DDerosa5@aol.com Subject: Soft Boys at 9:30 In a message dated 1/25/01 12:42:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: > So who in the DC area is heading to see him on the 21st? I'll be there too, perhaps with my grouchy wife who loved the Robyn/Kimberley show at the Metro so much she maried me for taking her! dave overstating a little, but tain't much. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:08:17 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: reaper radio If you bought a early edition of The Go-Betweens best of "Bellavista Terrace" you got the bonus disk The Go-Betweens "Live on SNAP". The bonus disc had performances of the full band from 1987 on half the cuts and the other cuts were from 1988 with just Robert Forster, Grant McLellan and Amanda Brown. The cuts from 1988 live on SNAP are stunning. And the band and Deirdre have a nice interaction and feeling for one another durring the interviews. They even talk about Downy Mildew! You can still get the disc from Beggars Banquet in the UK (where I got mine). Michael - -----Original Message----- From: hbrandt [mailto:hbrandt@milehigh.net] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 3:24 AM To: type-type-type Subject: Re: reaper radio > >> Deirdre O'Donoghue, Host of Breakfast with the Beatles, Found Dead Eb typed: > > I guess you're posting this because of that A&M > promotional 12" from years ago, with Deirdre interviewing Hitchcock? Right. > Either > that, or because the story invoked the B-word. If she would've hosted a program called "Breakfast With Rupert" I'll bet you would've posted it first! :) No, it was because I worked in radio for many years. I was skimming rec.radio.broadcasting, saw the obit and made the aforementioned RH connection. I wasn't aware that she'd hosted a Beatles show. > > I never listened to the Beatles show > It's somewhat ironic that she ended up with a > nostalgic Beatles gig, because she actually had a notable hand in veering > my own tastes from classic rock (including Beatles) toward more > contemporary, alternative sounds. Give me a Beatle haircut and call me fanboy, but I wouldn't call the "B-word" nostalgic or (even worse) something as hackneyed as "classic rock". Witness the success of "1" among younger listeners. The Beatles music is Timeless. > After awhile though...her jangle-pop tastes started to seem wimpy and > reactionary Oh sure, DJ's always play only their own personal record collections. Formats, program directors and corporate interests be damned! Oh, sweet, naive Eb... /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:00:22 -0500 From: "Sean Bartnik" Subject: Soft Boys in DC Hey all, 9:30 now has the show on the website. 3/21/01 and $20 for the ticket. Sean Bartnik Alexandria, VA http://www.type2.com/~bartnik When someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:44:47 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: Soft Boys in DC On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Sean Bartnik wrote: > Hey all, > 9:30 now has the show on the website. 3/21/01 and $20 for the ticket. $20, eep! Maybe. - -- poor d. np death cab for cutie _we have the facts and we're voting yes_ - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:51:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: reaper radio Hal: >If she would've hosted a program called "Breakfast With Rupert" I'll bet >you would've posted it first! :) I dunno...I always like when Rupert makes a guest appearance during the monologue or whatever, but I'm not sure I would want to hear a whole radio program devoted to him. It'd just make me hungry. Anyway, I still kinda miss Surajul and Mujibur. >> After awhile though...her jangle-pop tastes started to seem wimpy and >> reactionary > >Oh sure, DJ's always play only their own personal record collections. >Formats, program directors and corporate interests be damned! Oh, sweet, >naive Eb... Um, Hal...did you ever *hear* Deirdre's old radio show? "SNAP" was on a non-commercial, college-based station where every music show was different and had a distinctive slant toward the DJ's own tastes. KCRW's programming has always strived for a "Choose a dish from our diverse menu" feel. Heck, the music director's own show is traditionally titled "Morning Becomes Eclectic." *Eclectic*. "SNAP" was very much composed of O'Donoghue's own musical choices, and she'd rapturize at length exactly *why* she loved those songs. No one else at the station played music in quite that vein (and I rarely found another DJ whose show I dependably enjoyed). At KCRW, they don't dictate an awful lot of what you play as long as it's sophisticated, classy and not too abrasive, and (emphasize emphasize emphasize) your show draws enough donations during pledge drives. The hardest part is getting a show, in the first place. And just in case you don't know, KCRW has loads of non-musical, public-affairs programs, so it's not even *possible* for the format to have a unified, "Turn it on and you know what you'll get" comfort-zone ambience. I've also been to KCRW twice (once, to hang out with an on-air DJ I knew), and noted the station's music collection wasn't all that impressive. Given the wide variety of music I had heard on the station, it was a certainty that folks were bringing in some of their own tunes. http://www.kcrw.org I also suspect O'Donoghue had quite a bit of freedom with "Breakfast with the Beatles," even though the show was on a commercial station (in a less competitive, weekend-morning slot). After all, once you're assigned to play nothing but Beatles and solo Beatles music, how much harm you can do? She may have been told little more than "Skip bootlegs and the Lennon songs which say 'Fuck,' and don't forget to play a few of the crowd-pleasers. Have fun." And I know her playlists leaned toward underrated album tracks rather than the obvious hits. You-don't-see-me-critiquing-unheard-Denver-radio-shows Eb PS Thinking harder, I've thought of some more artists whom Deirdre O'Donoghue probably introduced to me: the Blue Nile, the Woodentops (definitely), the Balancing Act, the Golden Palominos, Poi Dog Pondering (definitely), Vic Chesnutt, Daniel Lentz (definitely...and Quail, you still really need to check this guy out) and Suzanne Vega. Heck, there's a chance I even heard the Replacements first, through her. PPS Chris Knox and Jeff Mangum *together*? Wow! And I've always thought of Mangum as sort of the American version of Knox.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:08:39 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Soft Boys in DC Sounds like tons of people are going to the 9:30 club show. Anyone have ideas for something we could all do beforehand? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:30:44 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: reaper radio Eb: > did you ever *hear* Deirdre's old radio show? No. Just that 12" with Robyn. > "SNAP" was on a > non-commercial, college-based station > Eclectic." *Eclectic*. That makes a difference. Non-commercial stations can be as *eclectic* as they want. I guess I confused her non-commercial career with her stints at the other stations (WBCN, KMET, 91X) which are formatted. Sorry for the "SNAP" judgement. > http://www.kcrw.org Yeah, I have that bookmarked. I check their archives once in a while. > You-don't-see-me-critiquing-unheard-Denver-radio-shows Eb It'd have to be a one-word critique. Awful. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:43:16 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: son of fatman when we last left our heroes, jbranscombe@compuserve.com (jbranscombe@compuserve.com) exclaimed: >Underwater Moonlight launch party is over here on 11th of March so I doubt >there'll be any American gigs before then. what? haven't heard about this. are details forthcoming? or is this a secret invite-only deal? woj (size 38) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:46:07 -0700 From: Eb Subject: OK, so she can't spell "Robyn" ;) http://imusic.artistdirect.com/cgi-bin/bbs/bbs.cgi?x=breakfastwiththebeatles This URL has a stack of fan tributes to Deirdre O'Donoghue, equally distributed between comments about her Beatles show and "SNAP." Here's a nice one, which is similar to my own perspective: "I was first acquainted with Deirdre over 13 years ago via KCRW, on a show called SNAP. As a devoted listener, she introduced me to bands and artists that I never heard the likes of before such as That Petrol Emotion, Luna, Dead Can Dance, The Boo Radleys, Ride, Throwing Muses, The Blue Aeroplanes, The Jazz Butcher, Robin Hitchcock, Luka Bloom, James, Henry Rollins, Levitation, David Gray, Brian Eno, Richard Thompson, etc. The list is endless. Over the years, I have been fortunate enough to become a dear friend of her's. Her voice & personality has opened me up to new music and has definitely influenced me in other ways. Music has this power...to inspire, to touch, to influence...music knows no universal bounds. To this, I am indebted to Deirdre. I can only imagine how many listeners & people she has personally touched in a positive light over the years. I will miss her divine spirit, soul, and friendship." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:28:41 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: son of fatman >woj exclaimed >what? haven't heard about this. are details forthcoming? or is this a >secret invite-only deal? Yup, secret (er, not so secret any more - Well done, Joe) invite-only deal... jmbc. (size 40 and trying to swim it off...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:36:53 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: Soft Boys in DC if so, then that leaves the 6th free. sounds like a good time for a massive pilgrimage to bandon, oregon! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:56:03 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: discs in heat grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > > >>Also, does anyone know the temperature extremes discs can take in > >>storage. Like if I wanted to store them in my garage, could they stand > >>a California summer when the it could possible get up to 120 in there? > > > >Sounds like a bad idea to me. > > Possibly a silly suggestion, but would a large fridge or one of those food > cooler things they use in dairies [1] solve the problem? That's keep the > discs at about 40F/5C year-round. at what $$$/environmental cost? The temperature cycling as you take 'em out to play 'em and put 'em back might cause them to crack more quickly. Plus they'd probably pick up condensation, and so you'd need to let them chambre for a bit before you played 'em. > [1] um... by this I mean corner shops, not places where cows are milked. > What are they called in the US - milk bars? drug stores? whatever. Convenience stores? You can get all the food groups there; beer, hot cheese doodles, and beef jerky. I was in awe of the first US milk cooler I saw. I mean, as soon as you took out a carton, a dude lurking in the fridge replaced it from behind. Does it get better than this? (Unless you're the dude in the fridge...) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:17:22 -0500 From: "mike hooker" Subject: OT: streaming video hi, is there a way to save live streaming video to a PC . thanks, mike hooker take at look at my music trading list http://pages.zdnet.com/mikehooker/hookstradingpage NEW E MAIL ADDRESS!!!!! MHOOKER@OPTONLINE.NET DISREGARD ALL PREVIOUS E MAIL ADDRESSES. THANKS! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #22 *******************************