From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #10 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 12 2001 Volume 10 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: not All That Jazzed ["Russ Reynolds" ] Robyn on VH-1 UK [recount chocula ] Re: Credits ["Richard Zeszotarski" ] Re: Credits ["Richard Zeszotarski" ] rs.com [recount chocula ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #9 [Julie Nelson ] Re: rs.com [Bayard ] stop making no sense [hbrandt ] two flix (spoilers) [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: rs.com [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: rs.com [recount chocula ] Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview [Gene Hopstetter ] a question for you radio sorts [Bayard ] Re: Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview [recount chocula ] Re: Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview [Eb ] Re: a question for you radio sorts ["Jason R. Thornton" ] From Sonicnet.com [Eb ] Red Plan 9 [Capuchin ] Re: From Sonicnet.com [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Credits / Batman [steve ] Something else to use your quicktime plug-in on [steve ] More LOTR [steve ] Re: Credits / Cameos [steve ] RE: ketchup ["Yudt.Matthew" ] Re: From Sonicnet.com [Eb ] Re: From Sonicnet.com [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: underwater moonlight [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: underwater moonlight ["brian nupp" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:53:26 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: not All That Jazzed > I like commercials with talking lizards. In fact, if more commercials > had talking lizards, I'd watch a lot more TV. > > - --Quail Then I guess you're just Yer Average Quail. - -rUss "We were always anti-jazz. I think it's shit music--more stupid than rock 'n' roll" -- John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:47:51 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Robyn on VH-1 UK looks like this program will be repeated this saturday, january 13th, at 8:00pm on vh1 in the uk. >From: "Peter Adams" >To: >Subject: Robyn on VH-1 >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:14:10 -0000 > >Did you know that Robyn & The Egyptians were featured on VH-1's 'Sounds of >the 80's' which was shown on Tuesday 9th January. The clip featured them >performing 'Brendas Iron Sledge' from an appearance of Whistle Test and it >was introduced by long time fan Dave Hepworth. > >He introduced the clip saying that the song contained the finest rhyming >couplet ever : 'All aboard Brendas Iron Sledge, please don't call me Reg, >it's not my name'. > >Thought this might be of interest. > >Cheers >Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:16:09 -0500 From: "Richard Zeszotarski" Subject: Re: Credits >Richard Zeszotarski: > > >(maybe Robocop 2, but I've mentally blocked that piece crap) > > >Hey, Frank Miller is in it! > > >- Steve > > >__________ >If they know our secrets, why can't we know theirs? - Dana Scully He is? Iknow he wrote the screenplay for it, as well as the equally inane Robocop 3, but who was he in it? Shoot, this may be another addition to my new list of "Crappy Movies That I Need to See again just for the Cameos by People I Think Are Cool", which includes "Company of Wolves" (Danielle Dax as the wolf-maiden) and "Spies Like Us" (Sam Raimi as the Drive-in guard) - -Rich _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:23:51 -0500 From: "Richard Zeszotarski" Subject: Re: Credits Oh, yeah. One more thing. Frank Miller also has a cameo in a really weird direct-to-video vampire film called "Jugular Wine", which also features cameos by Stan Lee and Henry Rollins(?!) Also, I've heard that Mr. Miller is slated to be writing the screenplay, based on his "Year One" storyline, for the next Batman film. Hopefully, it will be a better one than his "Robocop" screenplays, because I could eat a bowl of Alpha-BIts and poop out a better script than those. - -Rich "sorry about that poop comment" Z. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:53:31 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: rs.com so, i've been working on sorting and saving and archiving all the articles and reviews posted to feg over the years (yea verily! could it be an update to the fegsite's article archive? per'haps...) and noticed that the rolling stone website's section on robyn has some interesting things: a collection of mabd (i think) photos i don't remember seeing before and a skeleton for a robynbase-alike. interesting.... woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:11:52 -0800 From: Julie Nelson Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #9 > Amazon.com: Had you seen Stop Making Sense? > > Hitchcock: Oddly enough, I hadn't. I hadn't seen any of his musical > endeavors, but I knew he was a music fan. I don't believe that he hasn't seen Stop Making Sense. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:40:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: rs.com > http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?oid=238 > has some > interesting things: a collection of mabd (i think) photos i don't remember > seeing before and a skeleton for a robynbase-alike. interesting.... http://www.rollingstone.com/concertfiles/concertmain.asp?strMain=1&oid=238 should we warn them it's been done? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:46:31 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: stop making no sense > > Amazon.com: Had you seen Stop Making Sense? > > > > Hitchcock: Oddly enough, I hadn't. I hadn't seen any of his musical > > endeavors, but I knew he was a music fan. Julie Nelson wrote: > > I don't believe that he hasn't seen Stop Making Sense. Why is that hard to believe? Just because of that David Byrne reference in "Freeze"? Maybe he was watching Gene Hackman in "Unforgiven" instead! Or, some Andie McDowell film, or Ken Burns' "Jazz"... /hal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:37:24 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: two flix (spoilers) >> Hitchcock: Oddly enough, I hadn't. I hadn't seen any of his musical >> endeavors, but I knew he was a music fan. > >I don't believe that he hasn't seen Stop Making Sense. well, it does say *"hadn't"*. i'm sure he has by now. 1. Traffic: on the one hand, not nearly as "important" as the critics have led us to believe, as it doesn't really say anything. the drug war is unwinnable? okay, thanks. that's an eye-opener. (and it also relies on a pretty narrow definition of "victory". i mean, the cia introduced crack into los angeles, the prison population doubled in the nineties, the most harmful drugs are legal, and the suits are making out like gangbusters from the drug trade. how is the "war" being "lost"?) also, the michael douglas character is such a bunch of crap. a drug czar demanding all his underlings to "think outside the box"? totally laughable! a drug czar giving a press conference and saying that we need to support our families, rather than making a war on them? totally laughable! on the other hand, very entertaining movie. the 2 1/2 hours just *breezed* by. i felt like they were really just getting started, and it was over. 2. O Brother, Where Art Thou? saw it again, and liked it quite a bit better. really dig the cinematography, and the acting. and, of course, the special "coen touch": i can't recall ever seeing car doors open the wrong way like that in a movie (not even in Miller's Crossing); the dwarf with the broom; the gubernatorial candidate being carried from the room on a wooden beam; etc.. and, of course, the klan rally is one of the craziest motherfucking things i have *ever* seen on the big screen. still think it's their weakest movie, however. KEN "Well I'll be a son of a bitch: Delmar's been saved!" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:49:11 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: rs.com *without* all the ads! At Thursday, 11 January 2001, you wrote: >> http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/default.asp?oid=238 > has some >> interesting things: a collection of mabd (i think) photos i don't remember >> seeing before and a skeleton for a robynbase-alike. interesting.... > >http://www.rollingstone.com/concertfiles/concertmain.asp?strMain=1&oid=238 > >should we warn them it's been done? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:01:00 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: rs.com >http://www.rollingstone.com/concertfiles/concertmain.asp?strMain=1&oid=238 > >should we warn them it's been done? nah. it looks like this is fan-fueled and since nobody's contributed anything yet, i doubt anyone ever will. plus, if you told them, they'd just suck all the data out anyways. ;) +w n.p. einsturzende neubaten -- ende neu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:24:59 -0600 From: Gene Hopstetter Subject: Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview I popped over to Grant Lee Phillips' web site (), went to the message board, and found a surprising amount of vitriol about Our Fair Robyn. F'rinstance, this post, titled "GRANT IS FABULOUS, BUT YES ROBYN HITCHCOCK IS BAD." (). But the folks on that message board aren't completely worthless , as I found this a 6MB QuickTime of Robyn and Grant covering Lou Reed's "Satellite of Love" from the "Elixirs and Remedies" concert film: Bom, bom, bom! Bom, bom, bom! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:10:43 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview >But the folks on that message board aren't completely worthless , as I >found this a 6MB QuickTime of Robyn and Grant covering Lou Reed's >"Satellite >of Love" from the "Elixirs and Remedies" concert film: > > > >Bom, bom, bom! Bom, bom, bom! I can't seem to get this one to play! Drats! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:27:43 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: a question for you radio sorts is it just my ears, or have i heard "mp3 glitches" in a couple songs on the radio lately? Do radio stations use MP3s now? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:31:49 -0500 From: recount chocula Subject: Re: Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview when we last left our heroes, brian nupp exclaimed: >> >I can't seem to get this one to play! Drats! you need the quicktime plug-in to play it directly from that website. alternatively, you can download the quicktime movie directly from http://www.scotopiapictures.com/Films/glh.mov and play it with the quicktime player (or any other media player which supports quicktime, if there are any). +w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:48:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hitchcock Haters and a Film Preview >I popped over to Grant Lee Phillips' web site >(), went to the message board, and found a >surprising amount of vitriol about Our Fair Robyn. Seems like somebody else posted the same observation, several months ago. ;) Speaking of Robyn gittin' no respect... http://www.inthe80s.com/bands/h.shtml Eb, still deeply ehhh about GL Phillips np: cherry-flavored zinc lozenges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:36:25 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: a question for you radio sorts At 05:27 PM 1/11/01 -0500, Bayard wrote: >is it just my ears, or have i heard "mp3 glitches" in a couple songs on >the radio lately? Do radio stations use MP3s now? When I was up in the greater Los Angeles area a few weeks ago, I was scanning through the dial on the car radio. On one station, a DJ admitted that a fellow jockey had downloaded a "hard to find 80's song" from Napster and had used it on the air. He then proceeded to play the MP3 track. I don't remember hearing any glitches, but then again, I don't think I listened to the entire song. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:09:06 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: a question for you radio sorts Pretty much all stations (or at least the ones owned by conglomerates--which is pretty much all stations--) run probably 98% of their stuff off of hard drives now. A lot of the shows (especially late night) are time-tracked(I think that's the term) where the DJ does the voice overs, station IDs, weather and news ahead of time ("that was and it's five after nine...") and then drops the songs in the right spots and essentially hits 'play.' The entire show plays back as the guy's driving home. Because they know the lengths of the songs and the time the show starts and all the lengths of the voice overs it comes out neat and clean and you don't even know there's no one there... Frightening crappy stuff. Listen to NPR reports and probably 1/3 of them (esp. the overseas reports) come through with some sort of distortion on them. They sound a bit like low-sample streaming audio files--which they very well may be. - -----Original Message----- From: Bayard [mailto:walden@eclipse.net] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:28 PM To: towing vehicle 'nostromo' Subject: a question for you radio sorts is it just my ears, or have i heard "mp3 glitches" in a couple songs on the radio lately? Do radio stations use MP3s now? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:42:03 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: a question for you radio sorts On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Bayard wrote: > is it just my ears, or have i heard "mp3 glitches" in a couple songs > on the radio lately? Do radio stations use MP3s now? What you're hearing are artifacts of the digital audio decoding due to loss of signal. These days, as we all know, nearly every radio show is just a satellite feed from some great Radio Network Mothership. There is digital encoding on that satellite link. Some stations record the input and playback later and others rebroadcast of the satellite in near real-time. If the signal is lost from the feed or the decode fails due to processor scheduling or something, then you hear artifacts of those lost bits. You see the same thing on digital television when a bit of the stream is lost or when you first come into a new channel and intercept the stream. In video, it comes out as blocky partial refreshes in scattered clumps around the frame that slowly fill in and become smooth. In audio, it can be a loss of the smoothness of the waves and a choppy or "digital" sound in a short burst. If your ears are great (and FM isn't, so I'd wonder what kinda radio you got goin' on) and the radio station actually IS using a lossy compression codec for their audio, then you might hear artifacts of the compression... but I doubt that's it. Blerp. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:40:54 -0700 From: Eb Subject: From Sonicnet.com Rufus Wainwright's Poses Due In Spring Singer/songwriter's follow-up to 1998 self-titled debut to feature cover of father, Loudon Wainwright III's 'One Man Guy.' Rufus Wainwright, the orchestral-pop singer/songwriter who wowed critics and culled a devoted fanbase with his 1998 self-titled debut, will release his second album, Poses, on April 17, publicist Jim Merlis said. Like Rufus Wainwright, which included the songs "Danny Boy" (RealAudio excerpt) and "Imaginary Love" (RealAudio excerpt), Poses will be released on DreamWorks and feature production by Pierre Marchand, longtime knob-twiddler for Sarah McLachlan. Hole/Smashing Pumpkins bassist Melissa Auf Der Maur (a schoolmate of Wainwright) and the Propellerheads' Alex Gifford guest on the record. Of particular note among the tracks on Poses is a cover of "One Man Guy" (RealAudio excerpt of Loudon Wainwright III version.), a song by Wainwright's father, the fabled sarcastic folk-rocker Loudon Wainwright III, from his 1985 album, I'm Alright. The younger Wainwright is accompanied on the tune by his sister, Martha (their mother is singer/songwriter Kate McGarrigle of the McGarrigle Sisters), and Teddy Thompson, the son of British master-class guitarist and songwriter Richard Thompson. The younger Thompson released his own self-titled record last year. Other tracks include "Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk" and "Grey Gardens," which was inspired by a documentary of the same name about two eccentric relatives of the late Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis who chose to live in a dilapidated mansion. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:45:29 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Red Plan 9 Oh, hey. Just thought I'd mention that I saw Red Planet. It had the pacing, depth, and storyline of many a classic old sci-fi story. It was genre-rific and exactly what folks going to see a science fiction movie should expect. And by the way, I have absolutely no doubts that they're going to make their money back on this movie in the long run. Clearly they're trying very hard. Admission was US$12M, so I paid to see Space Cowboys (only US$4M) and snuck in the back. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:50:41 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: From Sonicnet.com On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Eb quoted: > Rufus Wainwright, the orchestral-pop singer/songwriter > who wowed critics and culled a devoted fanbase with > his 1998 self-titled debut, will release his second > album, Poses, on April 17, publicist Jim Merlis said. that's one of the weirder bits of press-release-talk i've seen in a while. wouldn't "culled a devoted fanbase" mean that he went out and got rid of part of his devoted fanbase? aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:53:19 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Credits / Batman Richard Zeszotarski: > Oh, yeah. One more thing. Frank Miller also has a cameo in a really weird >direct-to-video vampire film called "Jugular Wine", which also features >cameos by Stan Lee and Henry Rollins(?!) > Also, I've heard that Mr. Miller is slated to be writing the screenplay, >based on his "Year One" storyline, for the next Batman film. Hopefully, it >will be a better one than his "Robocop" screenplays, because I could eat a >bowl of Alpha-BIts and poop out a better script than those. Scifi.com says there are two Batman screenplays in development, Year One and Batman Beyond, and one or the other will get made. Take it for what it's worth. - - Steve __________ Well, Jesus ain't no astronaut And Buddah, he's no fool Cathedral bells don't ring in hell 'cos cats down there don't think that's cool. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:53:48 -0600 From: steve Subject: Something else to use your quicktime plug-in on www.dougbania.com Mostly for Macheads. - - Steve __________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:53:37 -0600 From: steve Subject: More LOTR 'Lord of the Rings' Taps the Net to Build Excitement for Film http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/11/arts/11RING.html Pretty long article, some people think New Line is taking a big gamble. >"You know those 1.7 million people who downloaded the >trailer that first day?" said one rival marketing executive. >"I think that's the whole audience for the movie." But at 90 million per film, I don't see how they can lose. If you don't want to see 13 Days just for the trailer, it will be on the LOTR website on the 19th. - - Steve __________ If they know our secrets, why can't we know theirs? - Dana Scully ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:53:28 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Credits / Cameos >>>(maybe Robocop 2, but I've mentally blocked that piece crap) >>Hey, Frank Miller is in it! Richard Zeszotarski: > He is? Iknow he wrote the screenplay for it, as well as the equally inane >Robocop 3, but who was he in it? Shoot, this may be another addition to my >new list of "Crappy Movies That I Need to See again just for the Cameos by >People I Think Are Cool", which includes "Company of Wolves" (Danielle Dax >as the wolf-maiden) and "Spies Like Us" (Sam Raimi as the Drive-in guard). Frank's the tall geeky looking guy in a lab coat that gets killed early on. Speaking of cameos, Raimi is at least having Ted and Bruce Campbell in the Spider-Man movie. I think Bruce would make a great JJJ, if he's even in the film. Just give him some sideburns and a cigar. - - Steve __________ If they know our secrets, why can't we know theirs? - Dana Scully ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:30:10 -0500 From: "Yudt.Matthew" Subject: RE: ketchup > >"surely underwater moonlight is better than _like a prayer_?" > > i've never been able to get a woman to dance to underwater > moonlight. > > ken "living on hopi standard time" the kenster > I did! I married her about two years later. Furthermore, both of our two boys were exposed to live Hitchcock in-utero! Although, now, the older one who just turned 3, seems to like the Beatles much more. Matt, and now back to correcting personality traits... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:32:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: From Sonicnet.com >> Rufus Wainwright, the orchestral-pop singer/songwriter >> who wowed critics and culled a devoted fanbase with >> his 1998 self-titled debut, will release his second >> album, Poses, on April 17, publicist Jim Merlis said. > >that's one of the weirder bits of press-release-talk i've seen in a >while. wouldn't "culled a devoted fanbase" mean that he went out and >got rid of part of his devoted fanbase? Well...yeah, it's kinda strangely worded, but I think the implication is clearly that he has "culled a devoted fanbase" out of the world's overall population of music lovers. "Cull" can simply mean "select," y'know. Incidentally, April 17 has long been named as the release date, but I coincidentally received snail-mail from DreamWorks today which listed the date as *May 22*. Arrgh. Eb, happy to see "Grey Gardens" cited as an album track, since that was one of the new songs which really knocked him out in concert np: Gilmore Girls ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:30:18 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: From Sonicnet.com >Incidentally, April 17 has long been named as the release date, but I >coincidentally received snail-mail from DreamWorks today which listed the >date as *May 22*. Arrgh. fear not, young eb! your april 17 will be awash in musical glad tidings after all: that's the release date of the new tool album. yay! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:51:17 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: underwater moonlight best-loved by whom? my own favorite lineup was the hitchcock/metcalfe/windsor/rew version. robyn's said many times over that the soft boys were at their best before they replaced wangbo with kimberley. most people think of the soft boys as the egyptians + kimberley. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:21:30 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: underwater moonlight I still crack up every time I see the words: From: Asshole Motherfucker > >Rew, Morris Windsor and Matthew Seligman> > >best-loved by whom? my own favorite lineup was the >hitchcock/metcalfe/windsor/rew >version. robyn's said many times over that the soft boys were at >their best before they replaced wangbo with kimberley. most people >think of the soft boys as the egyptians + kimberley. Yeah good point. But, in my case, I've seen the Egyptians a number of times. Where as I've never seen Matthew Seligman play and have always wanted to. So I'm not that heart broken. Though I admit without Andy somethings will lack. One less voice over many of those Soft Boys songs is one thing lack will lack for sure! Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #10 *******************************