From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #8 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 9 2001 Volume 10 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Unto Us A King Is Born ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: Film (0% sci-fi or comic-book content, believe it or not) [Michael R ] Re: weird Robyn dream ["brian nupp" ] today's gripe [Eb ] Surfin' USA [Eb ] Re: today's gripe [hbrandt ] Re: today's gripe ["JH3" ] "Blimey! Let's ask Doctor Blinky!" [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:26:36 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Unto Us A King Is Born Almost forgot - Happy Elvis's 66th birthday. jmbc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Phew! (MANY!) I'd just like to let you all know that I just caught up on fegmail that I've been behind since before Christmas. Now we'll see if I should go back and reply. Maybe you'll hear from me next week. J. Not that I was missed. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:17:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Film (0% sci-fi or comic-book content, believe it or not) On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > The soundtrack album, while excellent, doesn't need four slightly > different versions of "Man of Constant Sorrow". There's a song from the past - traditional, I assume. My favourite version is on Ginger Baker's Airforce Live at the Albert Hall, sung by Steve Winwood. I think they also did a studio version as a single. - - Mike Godwin PS Yes, I was _there_. And a bigger collection of soon-to-die excellent musicians never appeared on one stage together: Phil Seaman, Graham Bond, Harold "debonair" McNair, Reebop Kwaaku Bah etc. (Maybe even Rik Grech, I can't remember ...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:36:09 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: weird Robyn dream > Now what I want to know is , did anybody get a good quality tape of >this show , or even a set list ? Eddie ? Bayard ? Woj ? C'mon, he >played some new material , we can't let this stuff go off into the ether >. > >Help ! > >Commander Lang > C. Lang, great dream. every now and again, I have a Robyn Dream. A few times he played some new songs. The most frustrating one was when I found a lost Egyptians album at Media Play, and fell in love with all the new songs I'd never heard before, harmonies and all. The important thing to realise about your dream, is that you wrote your own new song and had RH paying it. What ever that means. It just goes to show our minds are more complicated than we can imagine. Translating it to the awake world is another story though ;) Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:25:49 -0700 From: Eb Subject: today's gripe I watched the first part of the "Jazz" epic on PBS last night, and Ken Burns' typically pretentious, formulaic style was so *exasperating* that it gave me a headache which I was still fighting at 3:30 in the morning. No exaggeration. I haven't decided whether I'll subject myself to the torture of subsequent episodes, just for the sake of my "education." [cue unbilled celebrity voiceover] "Gawd, that awestruck, overmythologizing little twerp irritates me...Eb" [cue shot of still photo of me, slowly panned around to give an illusion of motion] sick, unrested Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:39:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Surfin' USA http://www.geocities.com/~wolf-eyes/ Any Vic Chesnutt fans know what happened to this site? Dead? Moved? Hiatus? (Vic Chestnutt fans need not reply. ;)) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:03:45 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: today's gripe > I watched the first part of the "Jazz" epic on PBS last night > [cue shot of still photo...slowly > panned around to give an illusion of motion] I haven't watched "Jazz" yet, but what other method would you suggest? Re-enactments? You gotta work with what's available (in this case, photos from the early 1900's). It's a documentary, not a docu-drama. /hal, who'd rather watch a Maysles Brothers, D.A.Pennebaker or Frederick Wiseman film over one by Ken Burns anyway ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:22:16 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: today's gripe >I haven't watched "Jazz" yet, but what other method would you suggest? >Re-enactments? You gotta work with what's available (in this case, >photos from the early 1900's). It's a documentary, not a docu-drama. Sure, but why not try something a little different for once? I think he should have used full-textured 3-D CGI animation for the really important Jazz greats, and done the less crucial guys with claymation or "South Park"-like paper cutouts. And then, for the cutaway interview sequences, he should have heavily backlit all the interview subjects, just like the Sex Pistols were shown in "The Filth & the Fury"... Also, there should have been medical-quality physiological diagrams showing where their lungs, spleens, and livers were in relation to the rest of their internal organs, just to help clear up the inevitable confusion. John "cue tele-cine" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:56:27 -0700 From: Eb Subject: "Blimey! Let's ask Doctor Blinky!" >> [cue shot of still photo...slowly >> panned around to give an illusion of motion] > >I haven't watched "Jazz" yet, but what other method would you suggest? It's just all so damn formulaic. He does the same five tricks, over and over and over. Just once, couldn't he... use a dolly or hand-held camera? superimpose the text of a quote on the screen, rather than the cornball "celebrity impersonation" bit? include an interactive interview with a series of answers and questions, instead of isolated soundbites? shoot his interview subjects in some other way beyond a tight head shot? include contemporary film footage, physically exploring a discussed location? vary his storytelling attitude from that same awestruck, pie-in-the-sky, mythological swoon? try some different paces of editing, beyond that same languid, majestic roll? give some sense of his own personal connection to the subject matter? Etc.! Incidentally, I also have read that "Jazz" devotes precisely 1 hour, 48 minutes of its 18 hours to jazz of the past *40 years*. Whee. Ever see an interview with Burns? He has the aura of a nine-year-boy, fresh from winning his school's perfect-attendance award. And I still can't stop myself from picturing him holding Freddie Flute as he chats with HR Pufnstuf.... Eb, also wondering why Burns apparently thinks Wynton Marsalis is the *only* contemporary jazz musician whose views are worth citing - ---- BBC ONLINE Kirsty MacColl has been laid to rest at a private funeral ceremony, ahead of a public memorial to pay tribute to her life. Family and friends gathered for the low key service in London on Friday. A message was sent to fans on her mailing list confirming the funeral had taken place. Kirsty was killed shortly before Christmas in a Mexican boating accident. A public memorial service will be held at St Martin-in-the-Fields church, off Trafalgar Square, on January 20th. PS This is also damn cool: http://www2.state.ga.us/Legis/1999_00/leg/fulltext/hr1482.htm ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #8 ******************************