From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #3 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 3 2001 Volume 10 : Number 003 Today's Subjects: ----------------- calvin, don't jump! [recount dracula ] [list] new yorker [recount dracula ] Smythe the Heathens with a Jawbone. ["Irish Airman" ] Re: Another Robyn Resource [Michael R Godwin ] Re: reap(s) [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Poor Will [dr john halewood ] Re: Happy happy joy joy.... [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Happy happy joy joy.... [recount dracula ] Re: Another Robyn Resource ["brian nupp" ] Re: Great Big Sea [recount dracula ] Re: Raise your Cap, guvn'r/Chix Fix [recount dracula ] Re: the colour and the shape [recount dracula ] Re: Chix Fix [JH3 ] Why I love "Rock stars" ["Lyall, Jay P SSI-ISAA" ] Re: [list] new yorker [Aaron Mandel ] What does this mean? [HSatterfld@aol.com] Re: What does this mean? ["J. Brown" ] Re: [list] new yorker [hbrandt ] Re: [list] new yorker [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: the colour and the shape [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: Email from a Soft Boy ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: the new year's first "reap" post ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: the colour and the shape ["J. Brown" ] SoundScan's top-selling new releases of 2000 [Eb ] Re: This Woman's Work (Kate Bush import) [recount dracula ] Re: the colour and the shape [recount dracula ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 09:09:58 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: calvin, don't jump! i'm sure this has been disseminiated through the e6 list(s?), but just in case.... >Scott Williams' Show >Friday, January 5, 3 - 6pm >CALVIN, DON'T JUMP! >Tune in to hear the next generation of that special kind of Acoustic >Indie-Prog you've grown to love & expect from the Elephant 6 >collective of bands. Featuring members guaranteed to know members of >Olivia Tremor Control and Neutral Milk Hotel - some have even played >with them! wfmu can be tuned in at 91.1fm in northern new jersey and new york city, 90.1fm in the lower hudson valley, 128 kbps mp3 stream at , 32 kbps mp3 stream at and real audio at . woj p.s. hey! they're a band win punctuation in their name! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:16:17 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: [list] new yorker the new yorker published its 2000 hit list -- tweleve favorites, not in any particular order: merle haggard -- if i could only fly broadcast -- the noise made by people bebel gilberto -- tanto tempo sleater-kinney -- all hands on the bad one lambchop -- nixon wu-tan clan -- the w neil young -- silver & gold d'angelo -- voodoo susana baca -- eco de sombras luke vibert and b.j. cole -- stop the panic outkast -- stankonia shelby lynne -- i am shelby lynne +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 10:36:13 -0500 From: "Irish Airman" Subject: Smythe the Heathens with a Jawbone. LDudich@ase.org wrote: Patti Smith? or Patty Smyth? The early stuff of the older one. Perhaps its spelled Smythe? K _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 23:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Help for the single het-girl fegmaniak http://www.jesus.com ===== "On and on is all we are." -- kurdt Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:36:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Another Robyn Resource On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, dr john halewood wrote: > I've put a small but quite well formed collection > of RH stuff onto the following site: stats.unidec.co.uk. Username is feggy, > password TrainDream (or, if you prefer > ftp://feggy:TrainDream@stats.unidec.co.uk). John Thanks for this excellent stuff. I've never heard 'Poor Will and the Jolly Hangman' before. Does anyone know if this song has ever been released officially? - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:45:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: reap(s) On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > Adrian Henri - Merseyside poet and painter. And occasional rock singer with the Liverpool Scene etc. I particularly remember him at the 1969 Bath Blues Festival singing "I've got those John Mayall Can't Fail Fleetwood Mac Chicken Shack Blues" and at a Kevin Ayers gig at Ally Pally a couple of years later singing a song about Billy Bunter which I think was called "Greyfriars Rock". Does that ring any bells? - - Bob Cherry The Remove Greyfriars College Kent England The World Space Near more space. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:49:46 -0000 From: dr john halewood Subject: RE: Poor Will >I've never heard 'Poor Will > and the Jolly > Hangman' before. Does anyone know if this song has ever been released > officially? Off hand, the only official release of this I know is the original on Richard Thompson's "Henry the Human Fly", but I'm sure there's others around somewhere john ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:01:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Happy happy joy joy.... On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Bayard wrote: > Here is a little Christmas Present for all the little fegs... I made good > on my promise to hunt down the songs you all told me about, and I found > all of them and more! Here are some of the ones I thought to be the most > "feggy". > http://www.bitmine.net/~bayard/christmas/ Nice one, Bayard. I saw one of those "Top of the Pops" Christmas specials over the festive which featured Jethro Tull singing 'Ring Out Solstice Bells', from around 1976. I wonder if that is the 'other Christmas song'? Or even the 'Christmas song'? (I'd check for myself but it took me about 20 minutes to load 'Run Run Rudolph'...). Happy New Year - - Mike Godwin n.p. Eddie "Blind Willie Dunn" Lang and Lonnie Johnson "Deep Minor Rhythm" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:00:25 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: Re: Happy happy joy joy.... when we last left our heroes, Asshole Motherfucker exclaimed to Eb: >>I prefer to think of myself as the list's Heat Miser. >this cartoon seems to have come back into vogue (perhaps not surprisingly). we watched "the christmas without a santa claus" this year (and i spent the entire hour trying to figure out who snow miser reminds me of), but i don't remember it being on for a few years. or maybe we just missed it (not surprisingly). >i'm saddened by the news that they're going to make a live-action movie. hmmmm. woj, waiting for a band named "king moonracer" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:16:13 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Another Robyn Resource >Thanks for this excellent stuff. I've never heard 'Poor Will and the Jolly >Hangman' before. Does anyone know if this song has ever been released >officially? > >- Mike Godwin I haven't heard what version the mp3 is, but I only have it live in the studio on some soft boys boots. I don't think it was ever released officially. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:17:16 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: Re: Great Big Sea when we last left our heroes, Michael R. Runion exclaimed: >Anyone have any opinions on the band Great Big Sea (out of Newfoundland >I think). yeah, great big sea is from newfoundland. i saw them at some summer music festival a few years ago (forget which one, vancouver perhaps?) and they put on a great, energetic set. i don't listen to the one album of theirs that i have, _rant and roar_, very often but it's alright. not sure why i don't play it more often -- i'm spinning it now and it's better than i remember it being. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:43:29 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: Re: Raise your Cap, guvn'r/Chix Fix when we last left our heroes, recount dracula exclaimed: >when we last left our heroes, Irish Airman exclaimed: >>Im putting together a hitlist Ive labelled Chix Fix. Basically its females >>with attitude kicking out the rock n roll jams. Ive got Pretenders(lets not >>go there again;-o) and Garbage and Divynals and Patty Smith and Sam >>Phillips and olden days Linda Ronstadht. Im trying not to go too folky. Any >>suggestions? > >hoo boy. this should be an easy question for me, but my mind is stuttering. >some less well-known ideas: tribe, sybal vane er, forgot to finish that sentence. rather than using my brain, just point your browser to and see who the ectophiles (arguably the authority on women in music) have singled out as rock queens. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:40:31 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: Re: the colour and the shape when we last left our heroes, Asshole Motherfucker exclaimed: >i've never fully understood how "e-mail time" works. same way it works in the real world -- arbitrarily! ;) >but, according >to the following, i do believe james successfully completed the first >post of the new millennium. a sticker operation, though, may be >in determining who successfully completed the last post of the old >millennium -- woj or jeff? determining either the first post of 2001 or last post of 2000 should be equally sticky. if you decide that absolute time is the measuring stick, then you can't pinpoint exactly when the new year begins since it technically begins at 30-odd times -- once for each time zone with a unique time. if you decide that relative time is the measuring stick, james has an advantage for first post since his time zone crosses into the new year first and someone in the mid-pacific would have an advantage for last post since they crossover last. one possible solution is to look at the absolute time before or after one's relative new year. in this case, assuming the local time in each message header is correct, jeff wins last post since he posted 1 hour and 5 minutes before his midnight and you win first post since you posted 1 hour and 28 minutes after your midnight. woj p.s. first post of the millenium which starts now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:17:08 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: Re: Chix Fix >>Im putting together a hitlist Ive labelled Chix Fix. Basically its females >>with attitude kicking out the rock n roll jams. >rather than using my brain, just point your browser to > >and see who the ectophiles (arguably the authority on women in >music) have singled out as rock queens. Woj is right - ecto is easily the best site I've ever seen for this sort of thing (though admittedly I don't get out much). Nevertheless, they're still working on their database, and there's no mention there of the Plasmatics, L7, Fuzzbox, or the Primitives -- and My Bloody Valentine, the Darling Buds, Nina Hagen and Siouxsie & the Banshees are all merely "slated for inclusion" at some unspecified future date! I mean, if you ask me, the whole *concept* of "women in rock" BEGINS AND ENDS with Siouxsie! And they've also failed to list my own "#1 Guilty Pleasure" band of the last year or so - Catatonia. Again, I don't mean to criticize them; I do think they've done a fantastic job, but if they're going to list the gawd- awful Cranberries but not even mention Catatonia, well, how can that be rationalized? (Other than the possibility that Catatonia isn't really as good as I seem to think they are, for whatever reason?) >Ive got Pretenders(lets not >go there again;-o) and Garbage and Divynals and Patty Smith and Sam >Phillips and olden days Linda Ronstadht. Im trying not to go too folky. Any >suggestions? Hmmm, maybe I should just quit while I'm behind... But as long as I'm actually making music recommendations, a while back Dave B. asked: >...if anyone has any suggestions about bands that aren't afraid to be too >"pretty" or "wimpy", I'd like to know. I'm tired of the Kid A nonsense. I'm >looking for the perfect pop album. Terry Hall writes these really short CDs >that always leave you wanting more... I'm not sure I'd call Terry Hall "wimpy" (yeah, he's short and thin but he's *really wiry*) but personally, I'd say the obvious Terry-compatible recommendations would be Stephen Duffy/Lilac Time, Lloyd Cole's solo albums, Lightning Seeds (indeed, anything with Ian Broudie involvement) and maybe Eric Matthews (I'm not such a big fan myself, but other people seem to like him). Also check out the Go-Betweens' "13 Lover's Lane," and Cathy Dennis' "Am I the Kinda Girl" (also an obvious choice for a "Chix Fix" record, and also not listed on ecto). But to be honest, I don't think *any* of this stuff is quite as good as the Colourfield's "Virgins and Philistines," or any XTC album. These are just my opinions, of course. I've mostly been out of the loop lately, new-music-wise, but I didn't like "Kid A" either. Has anyone heard Idlewild's "100 Broken Windows"? They're from Scotland... John "grrrrrrls, grrrrrrls, grrrrrrls" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:53:55 -0600 From: "Lyall, Jay P SSI-ISAA" Subject: Why I love "Rock stars" Hi guys Been lurking for a while - got my SXSW passes ordered today - saw this on the news and thought I'd share - --------------------------------------------- Prosecutor: ODB Asked Cops To 'Make Drugs Disappear' Claiming he was a role model for kids, Ol' Dirty Bastard asked police to "do the right thing" and "make the drugs disappear" during a July 1999 arrest, a prosecutor alleged during an arraignment hearing Tuesday morning (January 2) in Queens, New York. The rapper pleaded not guilty to charges of possessing 20 bags of crack and a small glassine envelope of marijuana and was ordered held without bail. During the hearing, prosecutors entered into evidence this statement allegedly made by ODB during his July 1999 arrest (which also resulted in charges of running a red light and driving without a license): "I have a license, but I don't have it on me. I ain't got no I.D. on me," ODB (born Russell Jones) allegedly told police, according to prosecutor Ken Holder. "Can you make the drugs disappear? The marijuana charge, I'll take. Make the rocks disappear - the kids look up to me. They listen to my music; I'm a role model. Do the right thing. You're gonna know who I am." - ----------------------------------------------------------- Jay Lyall "Can I get fries with that?" - Albert Einstein http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/mini.cgi?membername=stjnky - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:03:14 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: [list] new yorker >the new yorker published its 2000 hit list -- twelve favorites, not in any >particular order: > >lambchop -- nixon Wow! Nice to see a major magazine give Lambchop a nod! :) Speaking of "wow," Beck, Eminem *and* Radiohead Grammy-nominated for Album of the Year? That's gotta be the hippest list of album nominees ever! What's more, Eminem even seems likely to *win*, unless the voters shove their heads totally up their asses and vote for Paul Simon. http://www.grammy.com/awards/43nominees.html Quick comments: 1. Who the hell is Brad Paisley, and how did he steal Amy Correia's Best New Artist nomination? ;) 2. How about Bryan Ferry up against Barbra Streisand for Best Traditional Pop Album? Ha! 3. The *worst* nomination I saw: Paul McCartney, up for Best Alternative Album???? 4. What bit of PC lunacy suddenly dictates that we award a separate Grammy for Best Native American Music Album? Or did I just never notice this category before? Meanwhile, I'm counting the hours until 11 pm, because an old friend is appearing on "Blind Date" tonight! Talk about a VCR alert.... Eb PS For those interested, I've recently seen notable Best of 2000 consensuses at http://pitchforkmedia.com (everyone except Aaron Mandel will probably roll his/her eyes at this one) and http://wallofsound.go.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:33:11 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [list] new yorker On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Eb wrote: > PS For those interested, I've recently seen notable Best of 2000 > consensuses at http://pitchforkmedia.com (everyone except Aaron Mandel > will probably roll his/her eyes at this one) [...] i'm rolling my eyes pretty extensively at the Pitchfork list, though i don't know whether that means you've overestimated me or underestimated me. it contains 7 records that i've heard and would rate somewhere between "what's the big deal?" and "i can't take another minute of this" [Badly Drawn Boy, Summer Hymns, Super Furry Animals, Clinic, Grandaddy, Godspeed YBE!, Yo La Tengo], 4 records that i've heard and liked but don't see myself going back to very often [Radiohead, Sigur Ros, Modest Mouse and Sleater-Kinney], and 9 records that i haven't heard (though some, like the Microphones, i've been actively avoiding). i get the feeling that they look down on people who write "songs". my own top 50 is pretty much lodged in the indie ghetto, but over on the other side (with Endearing Records having as many places on the list as all the majors put together) where people don't frown *ALL* the time. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:01:23 EST From: HSatterfld@aol.com Subject: What does this mean? When purchasing CDs via the internet, I am occasionally given a choice between two versions of a CD, the more expensive of which has (DTS) beside it. What does this mean, and why would people want it? thank you drive thru in advance, Hollie (Jeeves says DTS means Distributed Time Service and refuses to elaborate.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:47:13 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: What does this mean? On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 HSatterfld@aol.com wrote: > When purchasing CDs via the internet, I am occasionally given a choice > between two versions of a CD, the more expensive of which has (DTS) > beside it. > > What does this mean, and why would people want it? DTS means Digital Theater System. Which is a surround sound system. i've never heard of Audio cd's having this feature although DVD's regularly have this in them. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "The whole Bush family, from Texas, should be boiled in poison oil." -Hunter S. Thompson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:05:56 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: [list] new yorker > Paul McCartney, up for Best Alternative > Album???? That must be for the Liverpool Sound Collage thingie which (I suppose) could be considered "alternative" (just what does that mean anymore?), but is certainly not deserving of a Grammy. I really doubt that McCartney considers it his "latest album". It's more like an experimental sidebar along the lines of his two "The Fireman" releases (the second of which *is* actually quite listenable). I'm sure the nomination is nothing more than a lame attempt to get Macca to attend the telecast (so celeb voyeurs can see him with his new squeeze). /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:11:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: [list] new yorker Eb wrote: > 1. Who the hell is Brad Paisley, and how did he steal Amy Correia's > Best New Artist nomination? ;) i only know this because i wurk at where there is a country station, but he's a country guy. couldn't tell him apart from anyone else though. ===== "With [Amnesia] we are definitely having singles, videos, glossy magazine celebrity photo shoots, children's television appearances, film premiere appearances, dance routines, and many interesting interviews about my tortured existence." -- Thom Yorke Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:59:33 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: the colour and the shape >>i've never fully understood how "e-mail time" works. > >same way it works in the real world -- arbitrarily! ;) seems the sensible way to do it would be to put a universal time stamp on all outbound e-mail. say, greenwich time. (after all, greenwich has been home to world time since 1884.) and then you could, i suppose, configure your e-mail client to convert it to your time zone's time if you wanted. mine always show up with some time written on them (doesn't say which time zone), and then you're apparently supposed to subtract some number of hours for some reason. for example, this message came in at 12:40:31 -0500. what's it supposed to mean? am i just stupid? >determining either the first post of 2001 or last post of 2000 should be >equally sticky. if you decide that absolute time is the measuring stick, >then you can't pinpoint exactly when the new year begins since it >technically begins at 30-odd times -- once for each time zone with a >unique time. er, i do believe there are 24 time zones. but again, why not go with greenwich? (not that anyone gives a rat's ass who won first post in the first place.) i didn't even get to see it, alas: in other seattle-centric news, i just remembered another mnemonic: Jesus Christ Made Seattle Under Protest. for the streets of downtown, south-to-north: jefferson, james, cherry, columbia, marion, madison, spring, seneca, university, union, pike, pine. could come in handy if any of y'all ever visit, i suppose. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:04:04 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: This Woman's Work (Kate Bush import) Just found this listed on Amazon. There's over 100 songs on this boxed set, but it's $150! Does anyone on the list actually own this? Is it worth it? Eb?? Not sure if you're a Kate Bush fan, but thought you might have it. xxx Carole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 21:20:28 -0500 From: mad Subject: Re: This Woman's Work (Kate Bush import) I never bought this when it came out because it contained 6 of her albums (which I already had). It does contain two extra cds with rarities, remixes, live stuff, and b-sides. Quite to my surprise, shortly after it came out I found the two cds at a used cd store! I still can't believe someone traded in those two cds. To me, the remixes are okay - they don't really add anything special to the original versions. The other songs on the cds are really good but perhaps not worth $150 if you already have her individual cds. If you do own them, I guess you could always sell them and keep the ones in the box set - unless you are a completist. Mary >Just found this listed on Amazon. There's over 100 songs on this boxed >set, but it's $150! Does anyone on the list actually own this? Is it worth >it? Eb?? Not sure if you're a Kate Bush fan, but thought you might have >it. > >xxx > >Carole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:25:12 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Email from a Soft Boy > ...we are rehearsing and the band sounds great but different...you > will just > have to wait and see what you think....I love it, but we are younger > now, we > were older then!xxxmatthew Wishful thinking, I'm sure, but this fan would LOVE to hear them do a rousing version of "Younger Than Yesterday". - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:24:19 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: the new year's first "reap" post > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:23:19 -0700 > From: Eb > Subject: the new year's first "reap" post > > Ray Walston. > > Eb sorry, I win. > Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 16:59:32 -0800 > Gone But Not Forgotten: Bobbi Olson (Lute's wife) - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:31:39 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: This Woman's Work (Kate Bush import) Carole Reichstein: >Just found this listed on Amazon. There's over 100 songs on this boxed >set, but it's $150! Does anyone on the list actually own this? Is it worth >it? Eb?? Not sure if you're a Kate Bush fan, but thought you might have >it. It's been around for a zillion years. Two discs of rarities and all her studio albums up to its time of release, if memory serves. Probably a booklet. http://reality.sgi.com/btd/kate-bush/index.html - - Steve __________ Well, Jesus ain't no astronaut And Buddah, he's no fool Cathedral bells don't ring in hell 'cos cats down there don't think that's cool. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:04:11 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: the colour and the shape On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Asshole Motherfucker wrote: > >>i've never fully understood how "e-mail time" works. > > > >same way it works in the real world -- arbitrarily! ;) > > seems the sensible way to do it would be to put a universal time > stamp on all outbound e-mail. say, greenwich time. (after all, > greenwich has been home to world time since 1884.) and then you > could, i suppose, configure your e-mail client to convert it to your > time zone's time if you wanted. mine always show up with some time > written on them (doesn't say which time zone), and then you're apparently > supposed to subtract some number of hours for some reason. for example, > this message came in at 12:40:31 -0500. what's it supposed to mean? > am i just stupid? That means 5 after GMT which would put your time stamp in the Eastern North American Time Zone. Usually this is linked to your computers internal clock, if someones clock battery dies then they get really weird time stamps. however i use pine which is a UNIX mailer and my mail is always stamped -0800 which is Pacific time, even if i were in London. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "The whole Bush family, from Texas, should be boiled in poison oil." -Hunter S. Thompson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 19:33:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: SoundScan's top-selling new releases of 2000 1. 'NSync, No Strings Attached (9,936,104) 2. Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP (7,921,107) 3. Britney Spears, Oops! ... I Did It Again (7,893,544) 4. Creed, Human Clay (6,587,834) 5. Santana, Supernatural (5,857,824) 6. Beatles, 1 (5,068,300) 7. Nelly, Country Grammer (5,067,529) 8. Backstreet Boys, Black and Blue (4,289,865) 9. Dr. Dre, Dr. Dre 2001 (3,992,311) 10. Destiny's Child, The Writing's on the Wall (3,802,165) Boy, that Santana album sure is hanging tough.... Anyone have a idea of how many copies of A Star for Bram have sold? Over 1,000? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:40:00 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: Re: This Woman's Work (Kate Bush import) when we last left our heroes, Carole Reichstein exclaimed: >Just found this listed on Amazon. There's over 100 songs on this boxed >set, but it's $150! Does anyone on the list actually own this? Is it worth >it? Eb?? Not sure if you're a Kate Bush fan, but thought you might have >it. i bought my copy (uk release) when it came out back in 1990. there is an identical canadian release which can be gotten new for around US$100. the six albums (through _the sensual world_) are identical to their original cd releases and, if you currently own the emi manhattan us pressings, an upgrade in sound quality. the two rarities discs collect most b-sides and remixes on cd for the first time and are good to have even if you have a complete collection of singles. there are some annoying omissions though (the "dreamtime" instrumental from "the dreaming" 7", for example). if you want to avoid buying the whole thing, these two discs have been bootlegged but it's been a while since i've seen them around. incidentally, there are plans for re-issues for all of KaTe's albums on EMI in the UK. each re-issue will be re-mastered and include bonus tracks. _hounds of love_ has already been re-released as part of the EMI100 anniversary series a few years ago. the rest will following in the next year or three. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:30:56 -0500 From: recount dracula Subject: Re: the colour and the shape when we last left our heroes, Asshole Motherfucker exclaimed: >seems the sensible way to do it would be to put a universal time >stamp on all outbound e-mail. say, greenwich time. hey, we can barely get all these different mail systems *talking* to each other! let's save getting them to use one time zone for when the technical issues have been solved! ;) >mine always show up with some time >written on them (doesn't say which time zone), and then you're apparently >supposed to subtract some number of hours for some reason. for example, >this message came in at 12:40:31 -0500. what's it supposed to mean? the second part of the datetime stamp is the difference between your local time and greenwich mean time. it's analogous to a time zone, but not exactly the same since switching between standard and daylight time changes the delta sometimes. >er, i do believe there are 24 time zones. there are several time zones which are at half-hour intervals; newfoundland, for example, is 3.5 hours behind greenwich. i'm not sure how many there are and i'm not sure how many regions in southern hemisphere switch to daylight time during this half of the year, but i think the number of midnights ends up numbering around 30. >but again, why not go with greenwich? dunno. maybe because everybody likes to celebrate new year's at the middle of their night, not at the middle of britain's? what's so important about having everyone on one synchronized time anyway? woj ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #3 ******************************