From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #381 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 28 2000 Volume 09 : Number 381 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: gag reflex - more on Eminem, rap, etc. [Rob Gronotte ] RIP ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Top 5 of 2000. ["Patrick Welker" ] on your knees, lowly user [GSS ] Re: Setlist, Stockholm December 22nd [Jonatan "Morén" ] Re: [list] Shoes [Eb ] Re:Herman's head ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re:Reap ["Russ Reynolds" ] Hey Beatles fan ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Hey Beatles fan [hbrandt ] Anyfeg got a CD-Text capable player? [overbury@cn.ca] A fine album for next to nuthin' ["Russ Reynolds" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 04:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Re: gag reflex - more on Eminem, rap, etc. Well, even Rolling Stone, whcih gave it a good mention in their year of review, said the music was just there for background. For most almost all recordings I enjoy, the lyrics are just backgorund, the music is what counts for me. And the only specific positive thing they could mention was that the album was funny. Not much of a ringing endorsement. there have been some recordings I have liked before because they were funny, but they got old fast. And I have heard some rap that I would consider musically interesting, but very little. Really the one thing I can think of is a Public Enemy album I heard a long time ago, probably "Fear OF A Black Planet", but I'm not absolutely sure. Anyway, I found the music very interesting and listenable; almost all sampled (Whcih I don't like in general), but put together in a very creative way. Unfortunately, the lyrics were such racist, misogynistic swill that the music was ruined. Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 01:51:11 -0800 (PST) > From: "J. Brown" > Subject: Re: gag reflex > > > I havent heard the whole album, but what have heard is pretty good > stuff. Any knocks on the musical quality would be old tired "it isnt > music" slams of rap. Theres alot more to it than just femme and > homo-bashing and most of those songs are done in some sort of > character. As far as his voice well i can see where you are coming from > on that one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 13:10:13 +0100 From: "Orrling, August" Subject: Gothenburg 25th and 26th Hello all, I was lucky enough to see Robyn in Gothenburg both on Christmas Day and Boxing Day. I'll try to remember the setlists, which could be hard because I was so much into it all that I forgot to remember in what order he played the songs. The audience was a bit below 100 both nights. 25th: (This one was quite much the same as Stockholm I think) (acoustic guitar:) 1. Mexican God 2. Me and Mr Kennedy 3. Queen Elvis 4. Beautiful Girl 5. Raining Twilight Coast 6. My wife and my dead wife 7. Serpent at the Gates of Wisdom 7. The yip song Electric: 8. Autumn is your last chance 9. Madonna of the wasps 10. I am not me 11. Airscape 12. Freeze Encore, Acoustic: (one or two more songs here) 13. Uncorrected personality traits 14. Same unidentified song as in Stockholm with the line: "in the pulse of my heart, I'm coming to you" etc.. Electric: 15. I Often Dream of Trains 16. Sally was a legend 17. You and oblivion 18. Queen of eyes 19. Kingdom of love The 26th 1. Gene Hackman 2. Wax Doll I Something You My Wife and My Dead Wife Arms of Love Queen Elvis Electric: Swirling I Feel Beautiful Raymond Chandler Evening She Doesn't Exist Insanely Jealous Encore, Acoustic: Cynthia Mask Clean Steve Electric: Queen of Eyes Kingdom of Love F*ck it, I can't remember. I'll just have to come back later, this gives you an idea though. But I've lost some songs and put a few of them on the wrong place I think. There must be 8 or 9 more songs to put on the 26th set-list. I'll just go take a nap and lose my hang-over, ok? /August ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:17:45 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: RIP Alan Smethurst - The Singing Postman (Have You Got A Light, Boy etc.) Someone quoted >"America's a great country isn't it? It's a place where the best golfer is >black and the best rapper is white." --Charles Barkley What?! The most successful American sportsman is black and the most successful musical performer is a white man who ripped off a black idiom?! So, no change there then.... jmbc Yank Basher By Appointment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 09:30:13 -0500 From: "Patrick Welker" Subject: Top 5 of 2000. Here's me list. I would have gone top 10, but I'm not sure I bought 10 albums this year. In no particular order. Hmm. Johnny Cash- Solitary Man. The shit rag known as RollingStone claimed it was underproduced. I believe Rick Rubin has produced an album that will stand the test of time. It's Johnny doing mostly covers, very raw and powerful. Johnny being Johnny. Belle and Sebastian- Folf your hands child, you walk like a peasent. Their best yet. Enjoying it tremendously. Robyn Hitchcock-Jewels for Sophia. I like it. A bit inconsistant. I don't own A Star For Bram. Porcupine Tree-Lightbulb Sun. Hated it at first. It's grown on me like their previous one, Stupid Dream. Roger Waters-In the Flesh. I don't really care for live recordings. Luckily they've produced almost everything that would have suggested this was live out. Biggest Hype- David Gray. Bore. Bore. Bore. Bore. U2-ATYCLB. Good, not one their best like everyon'es been complaing. Best concert-Glen Campell. He's actually one helluva guitarest. My 8yo nephew is in love with Pink Moon. Of course he doesn't understand the lyrics, but the melodies on that album are awesome. He's trying to play along with it on his new Martin guitar. That is all. Pat. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:26:21 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: on your knees, lowly user To: cryptography@c2.net Subject: IBM & Intel push copy protection into ordinary disk drives Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:16:03 -0800 From: John Gilmore The Register has broken a story of the latest tragedy of copyright mania in the computer industry. Intel and IBM have invented and are pushing a change to the standard spec for PC hard drives that would make each one enforce "copy protection" on the data stored on the hard drive. You wouldn't be able to copy data from your own hard drive to another drive, or back it up, without permission from some third party. Every drive would have a unique ID and unique keys, and would encrypt the data it stores -- not to protect YOU, the drive's owner, but to protect unnamed third parties AGAINST you. The same guy who leads the DVD Copy Control Association is heading the organization that licenses this new technology -- John Hoy. He's a front-man for the movie and record companies, and a leading figure in the California DVD lawsuit. These people are lunatics, who would destroy the future of free expression and technological development, so they could sit in easy chairs at the top of the smoking ruins and light their cigars off 'em. The folks at Intel and IBM who are letting themselves be led by the nose are even crazier. They've piled fortunes on fortunes by building machines that are better and better at copying and communicating WHATEVER collections of raw bits their customers desire to copy. Now for some completely unfathomable reason, they're actively destroying that working business model. Instead they're building in circuitry that gives third parties enforceable veto power over which bits their customers can send where. (This disk drive stuff is just the tip of the iceberg; they're doing the same thing with LCD monitors, flash memory, digital cable interfaces, BIOSes, and the OS. Next week we'll probably hear of some new industry-wide copy protection spec, perhaps for network interface cards or DRAMs.) I don't know whether the movie moguls are holding compromising photos of Intel and IBM executives over their heads, or whether they have simply lost their minds. The only way they can succeed in imposing this on the buyers in the computer market is if those buyers have no honest vendors to turn to. Or if those buyers honestly don't know what they are being sold. So spread the word. No copy protection should exist ANYWHERE in generic computer hardware! It's up to the BUYER to determine what to use their product for. It's not up to the vendors of generic hardware, and certainly not up to a record company that's shadily influencing those vendors in back-room meetings. Demand a policy declaration from your vendor that they will build only open hardware, not covertly controlled hardware. Use your purchasing dollars to enforce that policy. Our business should go to the honest vendors, who'll sell you a drive and an OS and a motherboard and a CPU and a monitor that YOU, the buyer, can determine what is a valid use of. Don't send your money to Intel or IBM or Sony. Give your money to the vendors who'll sell you a product that YOU control. - John http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15620.html ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 2000 18:56:07 -0000 From: Jonatan "Morén" Subject: Re: Setlist, Stockholm December 22nd Quoting Mike Hooker : > hi, > is there a tape of this???? it sounds fantastic!! > mike > Sorry, don't know of any. That is, I didn't tape it, and neither did anyone I spoke to. Which leaves us with quite a bunch of people who just might have recorded it. J.M. ................................................................ 80.000 svenskar har nu gratis e-post pe Sverige.nu! http://www.sverige.nu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:28:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: [list] Shoes Uber: >>Stupid bonus list! The top 10 television shows which inexplicably have >>their own Usenet newsgroups: Airwolf, Bakersfield P.D., Boston Common, >>Buddy Faro, Cupid, Dweebs, Herman's Head, Models Inc., Scarecrow & Mrs. >>King, VR5. Oh, the torture never stops.... > >Hey! Herman's Head was a great show. I loved its surrealism, cerebral >humor and irreverence. IMO, it got cancelled way too quickly. I enjoyed it, too...I even think the Freudian subtext of the superficially dopey plot was quite clever. But as you said, it was cancelled quickly. Hence, not really deserving of a newsgroup. I also liked "Buddy Faro" and "Bakersfield P.D.," by the way. However, I don't think either program broadcast more than about four episodes! (I haven't *opened* any of the above newsgroups, but I can't imagine they contain anything but a few overly optimistic spams....) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:05:07 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re:Herman's head > Hey! Herman's Head was a great show. I loved its surrealism, cerebral > humor and irreverence. IMO, it got cancelled way too quickly. It's one > show -- along with Twin Peaks, Sports Night and maybe one or two others -- > that wasn't allowed to run its full course. Though that gag was probably the funniest scene in Woody Allen's "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About Sex" I thought it was a bad idea for a series. I must admit, however, that I got some pretty good larfs out if it the one or two times I actually watched it. I never saw "Being John Malcovich" [is that the correct title?] but from the reviews it sounds like it could have been inspired by Herman's Head, and that movie apparently got nothing but stellar reviews. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:13:15 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re:Reap > Subject: reap > > Jason Robards They're dropping like flies, arent they? I just entered into my first "dead pool" for 2001 and one of the categories for bonus points is the last to die during the year. For those involved in a 2000 dead pool this recent spate must be like the last minutes of a tight basketball game, with the lead changing hands constantly. - -rUss PS martini is gone now. PPS however, "Layla" is still playing. I'm up to "Key to the Highway"... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 18:13:28 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Hey Beatles fan > Eb, who received both the Beatles' "Anthology" book and Yoko Ono's > "Grapefruit" for Xmas (from different people)...I guess I must be known as > a Beatles fan I got TWO "Anthology" books, one from my parents and one from my wife's parents. They have me pegged. I'll probably keep them both (one sealed, of course). Anybody get more than two? There were about a bazillion sold over the holiday's... I would love a copy of "Grapefruit". Has that been reissued or did somebody hunt for that one? np: Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs nd: Martini, beefeater, bone dry w/ two anchovy olives. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:25:24 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Hey Beatles fan Russ Reynolds wrote: > I got TWO "Anthology" books...I'll probably keep them both (one sealed, of course). > There were about a bazillion sold over the holiday's... The fact that there were a bazillion sold means that keeping one in "mint" condition is a waste of speculation, eh? > I would love a copy of "Grapefruit". Has that been reissued or did somebody > hunt for that one? Reissued. Also reissued this year: Lennon Remembers (RS interviews) /hal, who is mentioned in a roundabout way in Jorie Gracen's new McCartney picture book "I Saw Him Standing There" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 00:06:32 -0500 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Anyfeg got a CD-Text capable player? Please contact me off-list if you do. I have a couple of simple questions concerning CD-Text on GF II. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 21:39:47 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: A fine album for next to nuthin' Just Browsing SecondSpin.com... They have nine (9) copies of Respect at just $2.99 each. This is a helluva bargain for a damn fine album. You can have it delivered right to your door for just a couple bucks more. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:35:46 -0500 From: "Richard Zeszotarski" Subject: Re: Christmas gloat We sell thunder tubes at the store where I work. They are a lot of fun, but for some reason none of our customers can ever figure out how to work it properly. They usually just pick it up by the coiled wire and swing it around like a bullroarer. Of course, many of these people don't know what a diridjeridoo (sorry if I misspelled that) is, either. - -Rich Z. >From: "Brian Huddell" >Reply-To: "Brian Huddell" >To: "Fegmaniax@Smoe. Org" >Subject: Christmas gloat >Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 18:25:29 -0600 > >I imagine this is counter to the spirit of the season, but my Christmas >present was cooler than yours (unless you got a Thunder Tube). Apologies >to >all of you suffering with bikes or cars or jewelry. > >http://www.thundertube.com/tubes.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #381 *******************************