From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #372 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 19 2000 Volume 09 : Number 372 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RH featured article ["brian nupp" ] Interesting comparison (that crap D&D movie): ["Thomas, Ferris" ] re: various and sundry [Eb ] substantiation [Eb ] anyone heard these? [hbrandt ] Re: freediskspace [Bayard ] 5 more years of Howeird [hbrandt ] Re: that was the year that was... [Rob Gronotte ] Business as fuckin' usual ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: Business as fuckin' usual [Viv Lyon ] wood beez ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: that was the year that nothing changed [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: that was the year that was... [steve ] 2 more xmas favorites ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: that was the year that was... [Michael R Godwin ] commander lang , the font of all fuckups ! [great offwhite dude Subject: RH featured article I haven't seen this one before: http://www.instantmag.com/features/robyn_hitchcock.htm Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:43:59 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Interesting comparison (that crap D&D movie): Do the math... "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" is showing in 31 theatres and made $1,100,000 last weekend. "Dungeons & Dragons" is in 2078 theatres and grossed $2,225,000. In theory, if Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon were playing in as many theaters as Dungeons & Dragons it would have made $73,735,483 last weekend. And the fool movie is in subtitles. It's in 31 theaters between NY and LA. ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) "We keep you alive to serve this ship, so row well... and live" - Ben Hur ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:50:22 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Jayhawks fans? on 12/18/00 7:01 AM, hbrandt at hbrandt@milehigh.net wrote: > Let's face it...Victoria is the real talent. I've seen her solo and with > the Creekdippers. The audience was simply polite during Mark's songs, > but enraptured by Vic. Put "Graveyard Song" up against anything that her > hubby has written (for instance). He sometimes seems frustrated by this > fact even though she is as giving to his songs as can be. Mark should > really concede to his wife's gift and be content to back her up rather > than waste her in his vanity trip (The Creekdippers). Funny you should mention Mark's onstage demeanor; I got the same impression during the show I recently saw. At one point he threatened to leave the stage because of some talking in the back of the room, until Vic calmed him down. Then, when the crowd got them back for a third encore, Mark said he had nothing else he wanted to play, so they'd have to only play Vic's songs. Needless to say there was much applause. I think they are both great talents, but unfortunately for Mark, Vic has more of a name recognition. Cheers, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:41:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: various and sundry Firstly: I don't know why he replied privately instead of publicly, but someone on the list claims the "Mr. Wilson" in the Jayhawks song is actually *Henry* Wilson (the son of Gary Louris). Hrmmm...any substantiation? He didn't have any theories about the mysterious "Holly," however. Yesterday, I sent an email to the webmaster of a prime Jayhawks site...I'll be curious to hear what he says about this issue (if I get a response). (I wonder if the Jayhawks are aware of John Cale's own song "Mr. Wilson"?) >Peter Gabriel released an album? I didn't know this. I do know he's been >working on his album UP (?) for, oh, about EIGHT years now. Or are you >referring to OVO, his Millennium Dome soundtrack extravaganza? Yeah...I was referring to OVO (which I still haven't heard). One could probably insist that OVO "doesn't count," and that we're still waiting for a new Peter Gabriel album. >"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" is showing in 31 theatres and made >$1,100,000 last weekend. I heard the L.A. Film Critics Association (or whatever it's called) just voted "Crouching Tiger" film of the year? Wow...how strange. >Assuming Eb wasn't talking about a different World Party, Dumbing >Up has obviously failed to make an impact anywhere in the world. I >think it was released in August (over here anyway). D'oh! Now that you mention it, it seems like I *did* look at a World Party website sometime this year and read something about an upcoming album. Must investigate! Has "The X Files" taken a sharp turn back toward quality, in the last two weeks? I'm surprised at how engrossing the last two episodes were. Meanwhile, last night's "Simpsons" wasn't as dreadful as some other recent ones, but it wasn't much good. And I await Jeme's explanation about the rich thematic link between going to Cirque du Purie and getting snowed in at school.... ;) (And sorry, but I think "Futurama" is unwatchable. Gave up on that show, long ago. "Bender" alone sends me out the door.) Eb PS Add Photek to my list of 2000's major disappointments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:01:03 -0700 From: Eb Subject: substantiation http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/whatson/jayhawks.shtml Q: Does your song Mr Wilson concern Brian Wilson? Gary Louris: It's actually about my son, Henry Wilson. It's my one true baby song. He was born and I remember at some point early on when he woke up in the middle of night, I was holding him and the song just came to me. It's a story about starting off as a child, how simple you are, no agenda, no greed...and then people accumulate this emotional baggage and get some really crazy ideas in their head. Second bit of substantiation (and also, a generally informative interview): http://citypages.com/databank/21/1022/article8799.asp Still no explanation of "Holly," but this does seem to confirm that the second verse is about Alex Chilton. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:27:10 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: anyone heard these? CD's by Alan Moore: http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/index.cgi?column=cia If anyone has/has heard these, I'd love to hear a review. /hal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: freediskspace > I have lost the login name and password for our freediskspace archive. Are you talking about the one i set up? I forget the code, but my login is "bayard4". try this: http://mp3.freediskspace.com/ND_SignUp.asp?ReferenceCode=2181758911 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:47:02 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: 5 more years of Howeird Howard Stern Signs New Radio Deal By Associated Press NEW YORK--Just weeks before his contract was to expire, radio shock jock Howard Stern signed a five-year deal to keep on ranting. "I was really on the fence," Stern said Friday. "But in the end, I couldn't see walking away from this." With his contract with Infinity Broadcasting set to expire at the end of the year, the nationally syndicated Stern had kept his millions of listeners in suspense for months and had said repeatedly that Friday's show could be his last ever. Stern refused to disclose details of the deal. When asked what he would do with the extra money, Stern wisecracked: "Do what I always do -give it to my wife." Stern and his wife of 21 years separated in 1999. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:09:07 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Re: that was the year that was... Nope, Bush would still have a majority of the electors, Gore would just be behind by 3 more votes. Rob > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:23:25 -0600 > From: "JH3" > Subject: Re: that was the year that was... > > If you're referring to the myth that the Electoral College tends > to discourage third parties, that's all it is - a myth. It actually > encourages third parties beyond all proportion if they're capable > of carrying even one state. For example, if everyone in D.C. had > voted for a Statehood candidate this year, the election would have > been turned over to Congress on the basis of just three "missing" > electoral votes. (And D.C. might have actually gotten statehood > out of the deal, ironically enough, just to make sure it wouldn't > happen again. Who knows?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:21:07 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Business as fuckin' usual Viv wrote >When was >the last time we had massive protests at a presidential inauguration? I wish I shared your optimism, Viv, I really do,. I read over here that there was a poll in America that 75% of the population accepted the legitimacy of the election result. Huh? Where the fuck have you been you morons?!? Much to my chagrin the 'massive protests' look like being yer 'fringe' 3% bolstered by the Afro-American Democrat vote, and gosh don't they stand for a lot in The Greatest Democracy In The World (tm). jmbc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:44:30 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: freediskspace - gah! I screwed this up. Could someone who is familiar with this service write to me? On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Bayard wrote: > > I have lost the login name and password for our freediskspace archive. > > Are you talking about the one i set up? I forget the code, but my login > is "bayard4". > > try this: > http://mp3.freediskspace.com/ND_SignUp.asp?ReferenceCode=2181758911 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:13:01 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Business as fuckin' usual On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > I wish I shared your optimism, Viv, I really do,. I read over here that > there was a poll in America that 75% of the population accepted the > legitimacy of the election result. Huh? Where the fuck have you been you > morons?!? I'm glad you think I'm optimistic for predicting violent unrest on inauguration day. That gives me hope. In how many other situations would this be a pessimistic prediction? The figures I've seen for the populace's acceptance of Bush's legitmacy were still fairly unsettling, but much less so: 54% said he was legitimate, 40% said not. This was according to the NYT, I believe. > Much to my chagrin the 'massive protests' look like being yer 'fringe' 3% > bolstered by the Afro-American Democrat vote, and gosh don't they stand for > a lot in The Greatest Democracy In The World (tm). We shall see. I'm checking out airfare. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:17:24 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: wood beez >From: Michael R Godwin > >I'm with James on this - why not use a pencil and paper like other >countries do? In California (at least this part of it), they use a ballot with broken arrows that you complete with a black magic marker. The machine is incredibly sensitive about what counts as "overvoting." In New York, it was always the big voting machines with the little levers. The hole punch/"pregnant chad" thing is far from universal. >From: The Great Quail > >Last night's "Snowed-in" episode was, in my opinion, one of the >FUNNIEST episodes in the last few years. In fact, I almost thought I >was watching a long-lost episode from the O'Brien Days. It had its moments, but the overall concept really grated on me. Oh well. Malcolm in the Middle looked fairly amusing, but I watched it with the captions on while I was on the phone. The X-Files looked really retread-y, if satisfyingly gory and disturbing. I continue to forget about and miss the one Sunday night show I want to see (_Futurama_) and the one that's good but depressing (_King of the Hill_). >I think Chris is right about the whole prelude/story integration >thing -- they have always done it, it's was just done a lot more >skillfully in the past. I always got the impression that they did that in order to do an idea they wanted to cover but couldn't stretch out to a whole episode. E.g., last night they obviously wanted to send up Cirque de Soleil but wisely avoided trying to do a full-length ep about it. So they stitch the prelude (short subject) together with the main story et voila. That may seem silly but I enjoy it. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:51:03 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: that was the year that nothing changed <(I mean, even if the _election_ had been conducted cleanly and fairly, the election process was still an insulting, rigged, scripted debacle on its own). Nevertheless, we have a stolen election that deserves to be strenuously protested.> i think you're contradicting yourself. the election was stolen the second they put the ball-and-chain on nader for attempting to *attend* the first debate. (i mean, it was stolen long before that. but that was the straw the really broke the camel's back, in my opinion. ) fire up the harpsichord, mama: i do believe it's analogy time! supposing we were to hold an 100-metre footrace. and that two of the runners were given a 99-metre head start. and that these same two runners finished in a dead heat (a "photo finish", if you will). and that despite a close inspection of the photo having revealed one of the head-starters to have finished before the other head-starter, the linseman (or whomever) had declared the other to be the champion. would you argue that the "photo-winner" had indeed "won" the race? that despite the inherent unfairness of the starting positions (the "stacking of the deck", if you will), only the mis-called "photo- winner" would be grounds for dismay? also, do you mean that gore "won" the most votes in florida? or that he "deserves" to be president because he "won" the popular vote? if the latter, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given that we've had two hundred years to change the electoral college system if we wanted. or we still could, in the future. i don't give two rat's asses about the florida corruption. why pick on a bad apple when the entire barrel is so obviously rotten? now, the strong-arm tactics used to prevents blacks from voting *is* quite worrisome, in my opinion. but seen in the light of the police- state uber alles machinations at the large protests in the last year (and during the clinton administration generally), even this isn't really all that shocking. (and even there, if they *had* been allowed to vote, and had voted for gore, then, so fucking what?) starting to sound like a broken record, i guess. but, if gore is suddenly declared the winner, that means we *aren't* living in an oligarchy? does not compute. what i might do on inauguration day is go down and show my bare ass to the protestors. but that'd be about it. KEN "We'll have to bring our own tunes to the Thanksgiving Day Parade" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:34:31 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: that was the year that nothing changed On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Asshole Motherfucker wrote: > i think you're contradicting yourself. the election was stolen the > second they put the ball-and-chain on nader for attempting to *attend* > the first debate. (i mean, it was stolen long before that. but > that was the straw the really broke the camel's back, in my opinion. No, I'm not contradicting myself. I did say the whole thing was corrupt from the get-go, I just happen to be more disgusted with the final outcome than you are. > on a bad apple when the entire barrel is so obviously rotten? now, > the strong-arm tactics used to prevents blacks from voting *is* > quite worrisome, in my opinion. but seen in the light of the police- > state uber alles machinations at the large protests in the last year > (and during the clinton administration generally), even this isn't > really all that shocking. (and even there, if they *had* been allowed > to vote, and had voted for gore, then, so fucking what?) I can't believe I'm hearing this from you, Eddie. So the whole thing's corrupt, and that means we _shouldn't_ protest it? What, we can only protest it when it's a little bit corrupt? I think Americans have every right to be disgusted with the whole goddamn mess and I think it's imperative that we protest the entire sodden filthy repulsive thing. Even if it's "nothing new." ESPECIALLY if it's "nothing new." Just because it's entrenched we should sit back and take it? Jesus christ. I never though you'd be the apologist for inaction and apathy. > starting to sound like a broken record, i guess. but, if gore is > suddenly declared the winner, that means we *aren't* living in an > oligarchy? does not compute. HELL NO! I don't want Gore declared the winner! I want Bush declared the loser he is, and the election rescinded! It's a do-over, people! It was cocked-up, and it should not stand! As it is now, we don't really know who the winner is, and yet we're prepping to inaugurate someone anyway! As I said before, f you're prepared to accept that elections are rigged, then you don't deserve a democracy. I know you're a socialist, Eddie, but presumably you do believe in fair elections. > what i might do on inauguration day is go down and show my bare ass > to the protestors. but that'd be about it. Actually, I've heard calls for a mass mooning of Bush. Surely that's something you can get behind. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:42:43 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: that was the year that nothing changed >I can't believe I'm hearing this from you, Eddie. So the whole thing's >corrupt, and that means we _shouldn't_ protest it? What, we can only >protest it when it's a little bit corrupt? if, by "it" you mean the entire system (which, from the below, it looks like you do -- though that's not what i took your initial post to mean), then ABSOLUTELY. be out in the streets every single day! no doubt about it. >HELL NO! I don't want Gore declared the winner! I want Bush declared the >loser he is, and the election rescinded! It's a do-over, people! It was >cocked-up, and it should not stand! okay. i'm "down" with that. but my "reading" of the situation is that something like 99% of the protestors are gonna be calling for gore to be declared the winner -- or at least for another florida recount. sure. but i don't consider the two-whitemale-99-metre-head-start model "fair elections". mama. >Actually, I've heard calls for a mass mooning of Bush. Surely that's >something you can get behind. being that you've used the words "mooning", "bush", and "behind" in the same query, it seems i should *easily* be able to knock out a crack about eb's beautiful, beautiful ass. but the words are not forthcoming. care to help, mr. hedges? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:37:10 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: that was the year that nothing changed At 04:42 PM 12/18/00 -0800, Asshole Motherfucker wrote: >>Actually, I've heard calls for a mass mooning of Bush. Surely that's >>something you can get behind. > >being that you've used the words "mooning", "bush", and "behind" >in the same query, it seems i should *easily* be able to knock out >a crack about eb's beautiful, beautiful ass. but the words are not >forthcoming. care to help, mr. hedges? > I may be getting a head of things, but could it be that mr.JHJHJH isn't jumping into the breach on this because he doesn't want to go off half-cracked in eb's direction? ;-} Eric np 40,000 Headmen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:52:51 -0500 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: that was the year that nothing changed I nominated David Letterman for Time's person of the year because he was the only person I heard who had the nerve to press Bush for real answers to real questions. Time picked Bush. I don't know why. I'll never understand why. Did anyone hear Talk of the Nation on Friday? there was a journalist from Oklahoma on who had supposedly researched Bush and all she could really say about him is that he likes to take naps, he needs to stick to a schedule and he gets his lackeys to schedule things around his own personal needs. What a winner this guy will be when a crisis hits: "sorry, guys, you'll have to tell me the eta for the ballistic missile when I waken from my afternoon nap." Will no one save us from this man? Dr. Marcy Tanter Assistant Professor of English Box T-0300 Tarleton State University Stephenville, TX 76402 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:02:59 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: which of us is me/lazerlove5 Hello fellow fegs! I mentioned a few weeks ago that I was working on a compilation CDR of some of Robyn's rare and unreleased tunes. I wanted to put together this compilation as some sort of holiday gift for all us fegs (myself included). I remember sometime ago someone (I can't remember who) offered a disc full of different RH songs and covers. This was the first time I got the chance to hear "Nietzche's way," "The kind of guy," and "The Underneath." I thought this was was such a thoughtful gift, it made me wanna do the same thing. About a month ago Drew told Blatzy he'd never heard "the live in years." I agree with Tony, RH fans who haven't heard this song really are missing out... I know how hard it is to find some of Robyn's tunes. Anyway, I decided to throw together this compilation disc full of rare RH songs spanning just about his whole career. (And I guess some of them are pretty rare, our very own Bayard said he hadn't heard about 2 of them before!). I'm calling it "Which of Us is Me" dedicated to the many phases of RH. If anyone would like a copy just send me a buck for shipping, a blank CDR (keep the jewel case) and your address. I'd be more than happy to make a copy for anyone. Please contact me off list. Needless to say I'll be very upset if I see any of these on ebay! Tracks are as follows: 1. Soft Boys intro 2. Which of Us is Me? (Studio Soft Boys outtake) 3. Zip Zip (studio Maureen and the Meatpackers(?)) 4. Old Pervert (Disco -Skin it back version) 5. Zipper in my spine (Soft Boys live 94) 6. It sounds great when your dead (RHE live Ann Arbor 11-10-86 7. Mr. Rock and Roll (RHE Queen Elvis studio outtake) 8. Hanging out with Dad (RHE Queen Elvis studio outtake) 9. Live man die (RHE Queen Elvis studio outtake) 10. Evil guy (RHE Queen Elvis studio outtake) 11. Wax Doll (RHE live New Orleans 6-29-92) 12. The Live In Years (RHE Respect B-side) 13. Kung Fu Fighting (studio RH & Andy M.) 14. Watch Your Intelligence (Perspex Island B-side) 15. Lobsterman (RH live early 90's (?)) 16. Chain Mary to the Bed (RH live Binghampton, NY 10-2-90) 17. Lysander (RH live Maxwells, NJ 4-10-95) 18. Serpent at the Gates of Wisdom (same as above) 19. Statue With a Walkman (RH Studio Version) I'm working on some art work that I'll offer as jpegs or something later. Also I'm also pleased to announce the new release of my CD: Lazerlove5, which I've been working on for sometime. Thanks to the helpful Bayard Catron I was able to re-make Robyn's beautiful song "Sweet Ghost of Light" with Robyn's permission. Besides SGOL there are 14 other (non-RH) tracks that range in variety. If anyone is interested in a copy, I'm selling them for $10.00 which includes shipping. Or if you want both the Lazerlove5 CD and the "Which of us is me" CDR, just send me a blank CDR for "Which of us is me," and $10.00 for the Lazerlove5 CD and I'll cover shipping for both. I hope everyone who gets either of the CDs enjoys them. (How could you not enjoy the RH CDR?) Wishing everyone the best! Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:27:21 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: that was the year that was... JH3: >Personally, I don't think there's anything "weird" about the use of >punch-card readers, or machines in general, to count votes - unless >you think (as I do, I'll admit) that Americans are weird for insisting >on getting election results almost instantaneously. There's actually >a wide variety of voting hardware in use here, including manually- >counted paper-only setups. What I was trying to say was that the >machines aren't the problem - even if the Florida "undervote" >recounts (to be executed by local newpapers within the next few >weeks) indicate that Gore should've won, it'll still be well within >the margin of error producable by almost any counting system >imaginable. But John, the error rate on the Vote-O-Matic punch card machine is 6 or 8 times that of the OptiScan complete-the-arrow machine. And the optical scan machines will kick back overvotes so that people can do another ballot. If Florida had uniformly used optical scan machines, the whole post election mess probably wouldn't have happened. What's funny is that the Supreme Court's use of the equal protection clause to give the election to Bush calls into question the voting systems in the large majority of the states (even if the majority doesn't want it to). >To me, the "weird" thing is that we basically have a system that >completely discards our votes if we should ever be so silly as to >prefer the candidate who doesn't win in the individual state where >we happen to be voting. Instead, such votes are all proxied in >favor of the other guy! And nobody ever does anything about it... It's not doable. The pissant little states will never give up their favored status. All Things Considered ran the numbers today, and the only way to keep the electoral college and fix the system is to eliminate the 2 "senatorial" votes from each state, thus allocating electoral votes strictly by population. I'd like to see it, but it won't fly. Of course, this just goes to prove that favorite right-wing truism: The United States is not a Democracy, it's a Democratic Republic. And Cracker America likes it that way. - - Steve __________ If they know our secrets, why can't we know theirs? - Dana Scully ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:33:50 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: 2 more xmas favorites Dred Zeppelin's "All I Want For Christmas Is my Two Front Teeth" is big in the Reynolds house. And Billy Crystal's one-man We Are The World style "Christmas Song" is quite funny. - -rUss np: Beatles/1 Same great songs, different order, another number one album, another gazillion dollars for the lads. Can't wait to see what they shovel us *next* Christmas season... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:47:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: that was the year that was... On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, JH3 wrote: > To me, the "weird" thing is that we basically have a system that > completely discards our votes if we should ever be so silly as to > prefer the candidate who doesn't win in the individual state where > we happen to be voting. Instead, such votes are all proxied in > favor of the other guy! And nobody ever does anything about it... We had fun with this over here. The Labour Party leader is elected by an electoral college in which MPs, local parties and Trades Unions each have a share. Tony Blair, leader of the party, said it was absolutely awful that the Union leaders could cast their mass of votes without even consulting their membership. A lot of pressure was put on the Unions to ballot members, and to cast votes in proportion to the membership ballots. However, when Blair was trying to eject Ken Livingstone from the contest for London Mayor, he eagerly gathered in the anti-Ken votes of Unions who had not balloted their members and used them to install a tame candidate. Fortunately democracy triumphed in the end as Livingstone left the party and won as an independent. - - Mike Godwin PS Aren't there a couple of States which split their electoral college votes proportionately? Why not extend that system? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 21:59:13 +1030 From: great offwhite dude Subject: commander lang , the font of all fuckups ! Well do I have egg on my face or what ! That kind Bayard gentleman tells me the post I sent full of supposed quotes about gw bush is a fabrication attributable to Dan Quail. This must be some sort of conspiracy to convince all us ignorant antipodeans and poms that your president elect is even more stupid than we already thought . This set of quotes has been doing the rounds of the net for some weeks now and at this rate half the globe will have read this and shuddered at the thought of this man being the head of the western world. The thing is , haven't you guys worked out some sort of advanced net technology by now that will curb this scurrilous sort of posting ? Y'know the equivalent of a net SDI that just zaps any incoming Bush related inaccurate mail at source? C'mon, get your fingers out , with all those billions in spare cash I'm sure the treasury can spare a few to prevent poor blighted aussies like me from getting a black eye through forwarding spurious posts and its better to spend the spare cash on important shit like this than bothering with doing anything about global warming . Or perhaps they know the Great Quail is behind it all and they know its pointless trying to stop him from doing ANYTHING. After all he hates GW Bush even more than I do and he's in league with the Great Old Ones . Now GW probably wouldn't even know who in the hell they are ,even pulp horror like Lovecraft is beyond his reading level , ( I understand he only reads picture books ) but Colin Powell knows better than to mess with those fuckers .......... so I guess I better check my sources before I send on posts like this . Yours in fear , embarrassment and loathing Commander Lang. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #372 *******************************