From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #369 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 16 2000 Volume 09 : Number 369 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: your grasp of the bicycle ["J. Brown" ] Re: Baby pool [Asshole Motherfucker ] took her bowling, got her high ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Jingle bell rock [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: bend over, everyone [Michael R Godwin ] Re: cool christmas tunes ["Ben" ] Re: Baby pool ["John Bastin" ] Re: cool christmas tunes ["John Bastin" ] Re: D'oh, Re: cool christmas tunes ["Irish Airman" ] Re: cool christmas tunes ["brian nupp" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #366 [ajs@niroinc.com] free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool [Peter Palmer ] Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool [Viv Lyon ] Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool ["John Bastin" ] Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool [Christopher Gross ] Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool [Tom Clark ] FW: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: that was the year that was (SC edition) [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 22:45:20 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: your grasp of the bicycle On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > >From: "J. Brown" > > >Disqualified for really being a 1999 album: > > This seems to cause a lot of confusion. Was Bachelor #2 a 2000 album? > That would definitely have rocketed to the top of my list. Not > _quite_ as good as _I'm With Stupid_, but damned close. This was definately released in 2000. the disc says 1999 but it was only made available in february. I disqualified the Travis and Supergrass albums because they were released in the UK in 1999 and i considered buying them both as imports but i was too cheap and waited for their US release in Aprill 2000. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "The whole Bush family, from Texas, should be boiled in poison oil." -Hunter S. Thompson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:41:06 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: Re: Baby pool >My wife is extremely pregnant with our first child (a little girl) and I >was thinking of doing a pool to see who guesses the baby's birthday. >The winner can pick any show off my list. be cooler if the winner got to choose the kid's name. i'd pick "pinot griggio". Christmas With The Devil is cool. but connie francis' I'll Be Home For Christmas is not only the best christmas song ever, it's probably also the best drowning your sorrows song ever. two for one! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 00:17:53 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: took her bowling, got her high >From: Brett Cooper >But now here we are in the 1990s and we have a Rock and Roll Hall of >Fame. The music that was once so rebellious and revolutionary now >enjoys mass acceptance to the point that it's rebellious roots are >being obscured. So, like, how is this all that different from any other type of music that was once disreputable becoming mainstream and toothless? Jazz, for instance? Don't you figure gangsta rap will one day be as innocuous as a Superman comic? And, say, Elvis might have seemed "rebellious" at the time, but his music was still making people plenty of money, right? I don't know. To me, it's not the genre, it's what you say with it, and rock 'n' roll is no more inherently and immutably rebellious and revolutionary than, say, free verse or impressionist painting. Rebellion is all about context. That context is different now. Deal with it. >Bayard: > >> >What are the cool christmas songs that have been done by the little know >> >musicians we love? Babybird: "Goddammit You're a Kid" Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen.com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:36:31 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Jingle bell rock >>What are the cool christmas songs that have been done by the little know >>musicians we love? some of these have been mentioned since the original posting, I know, but... - - Thanks for Christmas XTC (who also did "Countdown to Christmas Party time" and "Always winter, never Christmas") - - Christmas in suburbia Martin Newell (no-one else mentioned this???) - - (Another) Christmas song Jethro Tull - - Christmas time is here again Beatles (and various other pieces of Xmas weirdness) - - A child's Christmas in Wales John Cale - - The spirit of Christmas yet to come Steve Kilbey (also "Napoleon's army, Christmas eve, outside Moscow") - - A Christmas sale Mahinarangi Tocker (yes, I know - you've never heard of her, right?) - - Christmas in the country The Puddle (ditto, I suppose...) - - Christmas The Who - - Jingle Bells Chris Knox - - Step into Christmas The Wedding Present - - If you believe in Christmas trees Cardinal - - Father Christmas do not touch me The Goodies! - - Merry Christmas baby Chuck Berry - - Little fiddle (and the Ghost of Xmas Past) Ed Kuepper - - I would also add that "Food for thought", UB40's Christmas song, is the only cool song they ever did, IMHO. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:05:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: bend over, everyone On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, GSS wrote: > Look what the break down of the coal workers' union did for you country. > Ok, that was as elastic as your first sentence from this original note. Not quite sure what point you are making here. The 1984 coal strike was a bizarre event which was deliberately hyped up into a confrontation by the government. In the 70s, earlier (Conservative) governments had always given in to demands of the miners, on account of coal then being our major indigenous energy source. The Thatcher government made a deliberate decision to have a trial of strength with the miners' union. The result is that we hardly have a coal industry any more, and we have to import huge amounts of oil. Meanwhile, competitor countries such as Germany continue to subsidise their coal production and protect their mining industry (they get a special dispensation from the European Union). I admit that the UK miners were making unreasonable demands, but if the government had met them halfway and then got as good a deal out of the EU as the Germans did, we would not now be paying a fortune on energy imports. > The 'star wars' missile defense system don't fucking work and second even > if it did work as envisioned, and it wouldn't stop the delivery of a > nuclear weapon in the trunk of a car, in a train, in a truck, in ship or > by any of the other unconventional methods of delivery and that should be > the biggest fear we should have as far as that shit goes. I'm sure you are right. Why do you think that star wars is politically appealing? Obviously the missile industry wants orders, but why do the politicians go for it when the missile tests keep failing? > The countries who have intercontinental missiles also have nuclear > warheads for these missiles. We know when they are launched and from > where. If some egghead somewhere sent one or 20 flying, the retaliation > from our highly esteemed Democrat or Republican dominated government, or > any other controlling body in the world whose country was targeted and who > had the means would either wipe everything out or make us wish they had. We always have the option to "Duck and Cover", popping a brown paper bag over our heads. (Did you see 'Atomic Cafe'? - brilliant!). > I think we should kill the democrats and republicans. Ok maybe not kill > them, but use them as sex slaves and as semi-renewable energy sources. Well, that is a point of view - but we might lose a few fegs along the way, which would be a pity ... Cheers - - Mike Godwin n.p. Bat Chain Puller (puller puller) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:03:06 -0500 From: "Ben" Subject: Re: cool christmas tunes >Fegs: > >What are the cool christmas songs that have been done by the little know >musicians we love? > >I thought I might dig them up using The-Technology-That-Must-Not-Be-Named. > >=b Christmas Bop - T. Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:27:44 -0400 From: "John Bastin" Subject: Re: Baby pool > >My wife is extremely pregnant with our first child (a little girl) >and I > >was thinking of doing a pool to see who guesses the baby's birthday. > >The winner can pick any show off my list. > December 25th _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:26:46 -0400 From: "John Bastin" Subject: Re: cool christmas tunes > > cool christmas songs The Dave Matthews Band "Christmas Song" is one of the best I think... Also well worth a listen is Chris Deburgh's "A Spaceman Came Travelling." I recently made a Christmas CD and found it wasn't complete without 2-3 of the musical selections from "A Charlie Brown Christmas." But that's just me... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:41:12 -0500 From: "Irish Airman" Subject: Re: D'oh, Re: cool christmas tunes I agree its time to pull the plug on the Simpsons. The only episode Ive seen in full this year was the opener with the Who, and it was just embarrassing. And while Malcolm in the Middle isnt perfect --I love (dont care if its cliche)the dichotomy tween Malcolm's IQ and his genius class friends, and his happily-vulgar, functionally-dysfunctional family. Or maybe its just cause I've got a smart-ass 10 year old kid. wrote: The Monkees' "Riu Chiu" springs to mind; i've always had a soft spot for that song.. Is that off Head? I was too young for Head back in my Monkee days. Anyway--please explicate. And to slip back into the Chrissy Hynde thread 2,000 miles--the Pretenders Oh--and the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is an oxymoron, or the moron of the Roxy, if you prefer. K _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:17:59 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: cool christmas tunes >What are the cool christmas songs that have been done by the little know >musicians we love? Squeeze did a really cool Christmas song. I can't seem to remember the name right now. Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:22:15 -0500 From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: cool christmas tunes > >What are the cool christmas songs that have been done by the little know > >musicians we love? > Santa's Beard They might be giants _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:03:03 -0500 From: ajs@niroinc.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #366 Was working (Kind of) and then stopped. Getting an error now. What's it got? I know you noticed the restaurant ;-) ________________________________________________________________ Runaway The Bear ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:44:30 -0700 From: Peter Palmer Subject: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool I'm really surprised only three people have responded to this:( I am giving away a free Robyn Hitchcock boot to whoever guesses the birthdate of my baby. The details are below. > Hey everyone... > > My wife is extremely pregnant with our first child (a little girl) and I > was thinking of doing a pool to see who guesses the baby's birthday. > The winner can pick any show off my list. > > http://home.netcom.com/~plpalmer > > The official due date is December 24th. So, you can guess anytime > between now and the actual delivery. Because there are quite a few > people on this list I'm going to ask you to pick a date and a six hour > time span on that date. This way any date can have up to four people > guessing. > > For example: > > December 27th 12:00 A.M. to 5:59 A.M. > Decembet 27th 6:00 A.M.to 11:59 A.M. > December 27th 12:00 P.M. to 5:59 P.M. > December 27th 6:00 P.M. to 11:59 A.M. > > If I get multiple guesses I will take the first one. > > Good luck, > > Peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:20:36 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool I'm guessing Dec 23, in the evening. If I win, I'd like the baby to be called Wolfgang. Or Andromeda. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:24:27 -0400 From: "John Bastin" Subject: Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool >The details are below. > > > > > Hey everyone... > > > > My wife is extremely pregnant with our first child (a little girl) and I > > was thinking of doing a pool to see who guesses the baby's birthday. > > The winner can pick any show off my list. > > > > http://home.netcom.com/~plpalmer > > > > The official due date is December 24th. So, you can guess anytime > > between now and the actual delivery. Because there are quite a few > > people on this list I'm going to ask you to pick a date and a six hour > > time span on that date. This way any date can have up to four people > > guessing. > > > > For example: > > > > December 27th 12:00 A.M. to 5:59 A.M. > > Decembet 27th 6:00 A.M.to 11:59 A.M. > > December 27th 12:00 P.M. to 5:59 P.M. > > December 27th 6:00 P.M. to 11:59 A.M. December 25th 12:00 A.M. to 5:59 A.M. (sorry...;) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:36:30 -0800 From: Mark_Gloster@3com.com Subject: knowledgeable fegs: sporting event question Jeme mentioned the "Tewsian Hyperbole." Does anyone know what teams are playing in it this year? Is that the Bowl Championship Series event sponsored by Eat the State, Microsoft, and Starbux? I will probably watch it if it is televised. Especially if Eddie is going to do his naked halftime kazoo marching band thing covering Starland Vocal Band 70's and some Vegas Elvis tunes. Now, THAT's entertainment. Did you know that I have moved to the "Beaver State." Is that great or what? Happies, - -Markg Thrilled, simply thrilled to soon be home for the hollowdays. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:34:22 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: bend over, everyone On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, GSS wrote: > > Look what the break down of the coal workers' union did for you country. > > Ok, that was as elastic as your first sentence from this original note. > > Not quite sure what point you are making here. The 1984 coal strike was a > bizarre event which was deliberately hyped up into a confrontation by the > government. In the 70s, earlier (Conservative) governments had always > given in to demands of the miners, on account of coal then being our major > indigenous energy source. The Thatcher government made a deliberate > decision to have a trial of strength with the miners' union. The massive conversion to natural gas was the only thing that allowed the UK to reach its emissions reduction goals. Inadvertant yes, but we live and we learn. > The result is that we hardly have a coal industry any more, and we have to > import huge amounts of oil. Meanwhile, competitor countries such as > Germany continue to subsidise their coal production and protect their > mining industry (they get a special dispensation from the European Union). > I admit that the UK miners were making unreasonable demands, but if the > government had met them halfway and then got as good a deal out of the EU > as the Germans did, we would not now be paying a fortune on energy > imports. The only thing that allowed Germany to meet their own goals was the collapse of the Soviet Union and the high unemployment rates that followed in East Germany. Reduce or eliminate industry and the emissions problem goes away, almost. Aren't the UK and Germany the only countries that have so far met these goals? > We always have the option to "Duck and Cover", popping a brown paper bag > over our heads. (Did you see 'Atomic Cafe'? - brilliant!). I hate everything about intercontinetal missile tracking technology because its whole inception had nothing to do with saving the lives. The only thing the users want is time to launch a counter-attack. What the hell good would that do? Everyone is starting to sound like an Isreali. They hit us, we hit them harder, fucking brilliant. Or in the case of Isreal, we hit them, they hit us and we say "I can't believe you hit us" and then smack em' right up side the head. > > I think we should kill the democrats and republicans. Ok maybe not kill > > them, but use them as sex slaves and as semi-renewable energy sources. > > Well, that is a point of view - but we might lose a few fegs along the > way, which would be a pity ... Ooh no, they'd have a chance to leave either party plus we'd keep them well fed and in great physical shape. When they ain't generating electricity, we'll be having sex with them. Keeping them fit and sharp, would be beneficial. gss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:25:43 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool Okay, I'll take Dec. 29, 12:00 n to 5:59 pm (chosen because that's when my sister was born, give or take 30 years). If I win, please name the kid Nivek. Who cares if it's a boy's name? - --Chris, who was an abject failure in his thinly disguised attempt to start a best-Simpsons-episodes thread ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:30:29 -0800 (PST) From: Eclipse Subject: Re: D'oh, Re: cool christmas tunes > wrote: > > The Monkees' "Riu Chiu" springs to mind; i've always had a soft spot for > that song.. > > Is that off Head? I was too young for Head back in my Monkee days. > Anyway--please explicate. actually, it's an old traditional Spanish carol, and it first appeared at the end of a Monkees' episode ("Monkees Christmas Show", 12-25-67). it's now available on The Monkees' "Missing Links Vol. 2" compilation. gorgeous tune. carol-ly, Eclipse np: Ananda Shankar & State of Bengal - Walking On ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:57:52 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool I'll say 1 Jan., 12AM-6AM. If I win, please name the baby "Wangbo". - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:27:28 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: FW: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool Argh! Forgot the names! Put me down for Nebuchadnezzar for a boy and Vajezatha for a girl, please. (Didn't know that Nebuchadrezzar means "tears and groans of judgment" and Vajezatha being "sprinkling the chamber." Both sound appropriate...) - -----Original Message----- From: Thomas, Ferris Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:29 PM To: 'Peter Palmer' Subject: RE: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool I'll try December 24-25 10pm-4am. Best of luck with everything, Peter! - -----Original Message----- From: Peter Palmer [mailto:PlPalmer@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 12:45 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: free Robyn boot/Re: Baby pool I'm really surprised only three people have responded to this:( I am giving away a free Robyn Hitchcock boot to whoever guesses the birthdate of my baby. The details are below. > Hey everyone... > > My wife is extremely pregnant with our first child (a little girl) and I > was thinking of doing a pool to see who guesses the baby's birthday. > The winner can pick any show off my list. > > http://home.netcom.com/~plpalmer > > The official due date is December 24th. So, you can guess anytime > between now and the actual delivery. Because there are quite a few > people on this list I'm going to ask you to pick a date and a six hour > time span on that date. This way any date can have up to four people > guessing. > > For example: > > December 27th 12:00 A.M. to 5:59 A.M. > Decembet 27th 6:00 A.M.to 11:59 A.M. > December 27th 12:00 P.M. to 5:59 P.M. > December 27th 6:00 P.M. to 11:59 A.M. > > If I get multiple guesses I will take the first one. > > Good luck, > > Peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 16:30:27 -0800 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: that was the year that was [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Fellow Fegs, In response to all the mail I have recieved, due to the efforts of your good selves may I say: 1> Uncle Bobby Live: I saw Robyn twice this year. First on the on water on the Lea Valley river trip where much beer was drunk and a good time was had by all and second in Oxford at The Point (where much beer was drunk and a good time was had by all). It was great to see the man again after so long an absence (I last saw him in the 80s)but how can you have an authentic Soft Boys tour when he and Kimberly are not fighting over the amp that goes up to eleven? 2: Top 10 Albums of the year: This year I was mostly buying stuff I had on vinyl or stuff I should have had on vinyl. Talking to Sarah tonight I think the only reason we got a CD player was Respect not being a vinyl release (It may have been but I didn't see it { if anyone in the UK wants Can of Bees to Eye on vinyl with a few 12" singles in the way drop me a line} ). So having filtered out all of the pre-millenium albums, this year we acquired: A Star for Bram: I still don't go for I wish I liked you, Adoration of the City and The Underneath but the others I love. My highlight of the gig at The Point was the encore version of Green Boy. Camper Van Beethoven is Dead: I think Klondike is a new composition so it counts as newish. CvB and Cracker are my "contempary" American bands - any newer ideas gratefully received. New Model Army, Eight: Ok, I'm not an NMA fan, but I married one and she reckons this is the best since Thunder and Consolation. The Cure, Blodflowers. We both agree this is the best Cure album for some time. Robert Smith has said it is their last and if it is then it is a fitting end for a great band := quit while you're ahead. CD puchase of the year "A Power Plant" by "Golden Dawn". All electoral systems are flawed. As long as the yolk's runny and the white's cooked it doesn't matter. Red Posh Frock, must go with heels. Jonah Louie: Stop the Cavalry. (You don't spell Louie like that) The Damned: There ain't no Sanity Clause, Beefheart: There ain't no Santa Claus on the evening stage, Sibling Musical Influence: This thread died a while back, but I went from punk -> psychedelia Dead kennedys... Hawkwind... Gong.... Can ... Holgar Czukay He went Jarre ....Glass...Reich...Holgar Czukay are we the only brothers who independantly bought "On the Way to the Peak of Normal" and "Der Osten is Rot". our only other known musical meeting points are early Bowie, Bix Beidrerbecke and Motorhead's Ace of Spades. Brian np Bonzo Dog Band : Keynsham - ------------------------------------------------------------ - --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:55:41 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: that was the year that was (SC edition) Brian Hoare: >All electoral systems are flawed. But ours is looking worse and worse, as Gore's popular vote lead expands. It's now over 500,000. Maybe we should give ourselves the constitutional right to vote for president. Watching C-SPAN on the day of the second hearing, I saw something even better than the guy with his mule, 40 Acres. An obviously prescient Gore supporter with a big sign that said SEND IN THE CLOWNS. Above this legend were portraits of the evil 5, each in excellent clown makeup. Wish I had a copy. - - Steve __________ We're all Jesus, Buddha, and the Wizard of Oz! - Andy Partridge ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #369 *******************************