From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #364 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, December 11 2000 Volume 09 : Number 364 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: geek question [Brian Cully ] Re: [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: Top Ten Rock & Classical Lists! [The Great Quail ] Re: Top Ten Rock & Classical Lists! [Eb ] i don't think so [great offwhite dude ] fuck no !, no , not the LISTS [great offwhite dude ] Glassy-eyed [The Great Quail ] Re: warning: menmonic! [Michael R Godwin ] Re: [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: warning: menmonic! [Jeff Dwarf ] UM reissue ["Russ Reynolds" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:09:07 -0500 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: geek question Rx (recieved) is data coming downstream to you Tx (transmitted) is data going upstream coming from you So, like, if you were playing catch with your dog, when you throw the ball it'd be Tx, and when ole Spot returns it to you it'd be Rx. - -bjc At 09:15 PM 12/10/2000, Eb wrote: >When you're talking about the throughput of your modem, what's the >difference between "Rx activity" and "Tx activity"? > >Eb > >pushing geekdom to new heights: >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4656/eie/08artegg.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:17:14 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: apologies for troubling the list with this, but RIP Jennifer Jane McSquiggle Angstrom O'Pusscat, a constant companion for the last 18 years. A grieving James ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:31:55 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Top Ten Rock & Classical Lists! >Interesting comments, Quail...but you still really need to get over Philip >Glass. ;) Yes, yes, I am sure some people said the same thing about Beethoven a few hundred years ago.... - --Q, or should I say, Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail Quail.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:59:24 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: gala >From: Eb > >Andrew presumed: >>Also, I think what I look for in music is somewhat different -- I tend >>not to take a critical stance and am much more likely to rate highly >>a record I find warm and inviting to me personally than one that's >>accomplished and intelligent but leaves me cold. > >What makes you think the rest of us push albums which personally "leave us >cold"? Hmmm...not what I meant to imply. Let me try again: I find that often music I consider admirable doesn't necessarily seem enjoyable to me and vice versa. I can list a number of albums that I find personally fulfilling in a huge way that, when I "step back" and try to look at them "objectively," don't seem all that meritorious. For example, I don't think Placebo are an amazing band or anything -- musically they're pretty basic and repetitive, and lyrically they promise more than they deliver -- but their first two albums move me intensely anyway and so, if they'd been consistent in quality this year, _Black Market Music_ would have made my "top ten." It didn't, but not because it's a dull retread; it's because it doesn't move me the way the first two did. When I listen to Elliott Smith, I hear a lot that I admire, but I don't get that same feeling of connection and pleasure that I get with an album like Geneva's. It's hard to verbalize. I assume that many of you are moved as much by a band's obvious intelligence and musicianship as I am by the texture and je ne sais quoi of the bands I love. When I said "leaves me cold" I really did mean "me"! Listened to PJ's album again a couple times in the car tonight. I can really enjoy it now if I pretend it's some other artist. It's fun to sing along to. >From: guinevere liberty > >Thanks! Dont know why I didn't think to check there. >I tried some pretty lame version of Glass Hotel ... >mybe in a year or two I'll have learned in wel enough >to do it some justice! Its great to have Robyn for >insiration learning guitar! Cheers! I do pretty lame versions myself, mainly because I love to sing the songs. "Glass Hotel" is a particular favorite. I'm also working on "Raining Twilight Coast," and I stumbled on "Lysander" by accident the other day. A lot of his songs seem pretty easy, which is quite welcome. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen.com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 22:03:49 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Top Ten Rock & Classical Lists! >>Interesting comments, Quail...but you still really need to get over Philip >>Glass. ;) > >Yes, yes, I am sure some people said the same thing about Beethoven a >few hundred years ago.... Are you really implying that Glass will have Beethoven-level status in another few hundred years? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:37:58 +1030 From: great offwhite dude Subject: i don't think so blatz wrote >You can call me anything, is this an open invitation ? Please say yes........... Commander Lang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:45:30 +1030 From: great offwhite dude Subject: fuck no !, no , not the LISTS Its that time of year again. Fucking , fucking LISTS its not that I don't want you to send them to the list of course (well I do really , but you should be free to post them , we should be free to post anything , ) but if you could just mention in the title that its a frigging list , then I can scroll PAST it ......... still waiting for permission to call Blatzman anything .............. Commander Lang. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:37:45 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: big booth ticket scan >Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:56:26 -0500 (EST) >From: theodius65 >Reply-To: clubs-mail@yahoo-inc.com >Subject: Souvineer in the Mail.. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] > >Hell i'm giddy tonight..last message lol. Look what my good pal Jen Rundell >sent me in the mail: >http://www.geocities.com/theodius65/bbcradio.gif >I had no idea, it was autographed, 'till she pointed it out to me via icq >this morning! Funny, how something can instantly become special. Very >thoughtful. thanx again Jen. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:13:26 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Glassy-eyed >Are you really implying that Glass will have Beethoven-level status in >another few hundred years? No, probably not -- almost certainly not. Beethoven is unique and one of the world's greatest artists. But I do think that Glass, and minimalism in general, often gets the short end of the stick when it comes to the critics and the cognoscenti. There are many people who still feel that if a piece of modern music is accessible, beautiful, tonal and worse of all, popular, that it can't be taken seriously. So I am used to automatically defending Glass and minimalism in general. I do honestly find a beauty and grace in his music that, for me, is only rivaled by Beethoven, Wagner, and Shostakovich. These are the only four composers that can create passages of music so emotionally moving, that I am brought to tears without the need of lyrics, singing, or any operatic plot devices. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:01:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: warning: menmonic! > Michael R Godwin wrote: > > I've been off ill _again_. But my time hasn't been completely wasted > > as I have come up with the following: > > John Fred Made A Mint Jelly Just As Susie's Old Nurse Described On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > but what's it for? January, you start the year off fine, February, you're my little Valentine March, I'm gonna march you up the aisle ... - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > apologies for troubling the list with this, but RIP Jennifer Jane > McSquiggle Angstrom O'Pusscat, a constant companion for the last 18 > years. > > A grieving James that blows. i had to send my shih tzu of 15 years, barney, off to his adoptive mother fox terrier-dauschund, emily elizabeth, in february. non-animal people don't understand. Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: warning: menmonic! Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Michael R Godwin wrote: > > > I've been off ill _again_. But my time hasn't been completely > wasted > > > as I have come up with the following: > > > John Fred Made A Mint Jelly Just As Susie's Old Nurse Described > > On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > but what's it for? > > January, you start the year off fine, > February, you're my little Valentine > March, I'm gonna march you up the aisle ... D'oheth. ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:21:22 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: UM reissue Museum of RH: > Underwater Moonlight will be reissued worldwide by Matador Records on March > 13. This will be a 2-disc set, with the first disc being the original > album. The second will feature previously unreleased rehearsal recordings > of the Soft Boys from 1979 and 1980. Now THAT'S the way to issue a classic album with bonus tracks. Pile all the bonus tracks you want onto that extra disc, but leave the original album in tact. The original album needs to be heard by the next generation of fans exactly as we heard heard it 20 years ago. The young'uns need to hear that final "moonli-i-i-i--i-i-ight" and soak it all up during the ensuing silence and think to they-selves "I've gotta hear that album one more time!" Finally, somebody gets it right. Bravo, Matador! (unless that earlier report that "He's A Reptile" would be added turns out to be true, in which case I take it all back). I'm awfully stoked about finally getting a chance to see the Soft Boys perform these songs. Wonder if they'll do the album in sequence and how much stuff from Bees and Hits they'll throw in...and whether or not it will be exclusively soft boys material or will they throw in some some post SB material too. I bet they come up with at least one new song. Feeding the fish, rUss. np: Soft Boys/Underwater Moonlight Neil Young/Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere The Velvet Underground & Nico Elvis Costello/This Year's Model Pink Floyd/Animals ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #364 *******************************