From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #346 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 29 2000 Volume 09 : Number 346 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: happy buy nothing day! [Rob Gronotte ] Re: Buy a belt, and you're funding genocide [Rob Gronotte ] RE: lennon's on sale again [Viv Lyon ] Re: happy buy nothing day! [Capuchin ] RE: lennon's on sale again ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: lennon's on sale again [Eb ] Re: the real temptation [GSS ] Re: mumblemumbleGENOCIDEmumblemumbleCAPITALISTDOGmumblemumbleOPPRE SSION.... ["J. Brown" ] Re: lennon's on sale again [drop the holupki ] Re: mumblemumbleGENOCIDEmumblemumbleCAPITALISTDOGmumblemumbleOPPRE SSION.... [drop the holupki ] Re: rh sonic book [drop the holupki ] Taking over the world, one Starbucks at a time [steve ] chad row [drop the holupki ] Re: chad row [drop the holupki ] Re: lennon's on sale again [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: it's sold 800 copies already! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Dyslexic post-feminist atexts Lennon, buying none of it ["Irish Airman" <] BusterCretin Productions [BLATZMAN@aol.com] Rebel Rebel [BLATZMAN@aol.com] Re: Dyslexic post-feminist atexts Lennon, buying none of it [drop the hol] A fork next to your spoon Plus question [BLATZMAN@aol.com] Re: Taking over the world, one Starbucks at a time [hbrandt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:27 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Re: happy buy nothing day! Hey, speak for yourself! I haven't bought anything for anyone for holidays for years! I thought it was just because I was a scrooge who is always alone on Xmas though, didn't realize I am now consider a social activist too. On the more serious side, I don't see how a buy nothing day would make any difference if those who participated just made up for it by purhcasing more late on in the month. If you're gonna go for anti-consumerism, I say go whole hog and buy nothing not absolutely neccessary, or at least boycott Xmas gifts completely, I would repect that more. Rob > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:11:02 -0500 > From: Ken Ostrander > Subject: Re: happy buy nothing day! > > i think you answered your own question. obviously, we will all be buying > something for somebody in the next month. the idea is to think about why you > are buying and where your money is going. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Gronotte Subject: Re: Buy a belt, and you're funding genocide Good thing too, since you bum a ride from thos of us with cars when you want to go to an out-of-town Robyn show, now, doncha! :) Rob > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:13:10 -0500 (EST) > From: dmw > Subject: Re: Buy a belt, and you're funding genocide > > ... > * i own up to plenty of this on my own part. i frequently have to remind > myself that just because someone is driving a car doesn't give me the > right to judge them, think of them as indiscriminate planet killers, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:27:23 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: lennon's on sale again > > "Sacred" has never been a concern of mine, as I demonstrate whenever I > > tell > > the story about the time Jesus and Ralph Nader gang-raped my mom on > > Christmas morning while "Imagine" played in the background. > > Is it a "gang rape" if there are only two rapists? The analogous > question would be: is a threesome an "orgy," or just company? Um, duh! You don't think I just stood there and watched, do you? (I don't believe in hell but I'm pretty sure one just popped into existence on my behalf. Okay, you win, Viv, some things ARE sacred. I'm gonna go take a bunch of showers now.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:48:55 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: RE: lennon's on sale again On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Brian Huddell wrote: > (I don't believe in hell but I'm pretty sure one just popped into existence > on my behalf. Okay, you win, Viv, some things ARE sacred. I'm gonna go > take a bunch of showers now.) Actually, I was arguing that some things _aren't_ sacred. What is sacred, however, is your right to say whatever you want....even if it makes me cringe and sends you to a fiery pit of suffering and torment for all eternity. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:00:30 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: happy buy nothing day! On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Rob Gronotte wrote: > On the more serious side, I don't see how a buy nothing day would make > any difference if those who participated just made up for it by > purhcasing more late on in the month. If you're gonna go for > anti-consumerism, I say go whole hog and buy nothing not absolutely > neccessary, or at least boycott Xmas gifts completely, I would repect > that more. Try to spend a "buy nothing day". Pick a day at some point in the future (so far, in fact, that you don't know what your plans will be for that day) and say "I will buy nothing on this day." Now stick to it. For most of us, certainly the more urbanly situated (is there a better word for that? Would just "urban" do?) among us would find ourselves in a bit of an inconvenient spot at some point on that day. Our dependence on purchasing and high availability of consumer goods, cheap, readily available food, etc. is higher than we usually notice. You spend that day thinking about how much you consume and whence it all comes. Now spend a "throw nothing away day" and see what happens. This includes not using anything that is thrown away or opening any disposable packages. At that point, think about how many things you do in your normal life involve throwing things away... so think about where "away" is and how full it must be because of your many days going about your normal business. There's an interesting aspect of Quality Management (a field tangentially related to my everyday occupation) that has shown that simply measuring a problem decreases it. It's a bit of a Heisenberg Principle for Process Improvement. It seems that once you become aware of the scale of the problem, you start to unconsciously reduce your contribution to it. This is the principle that I'm hoping to take effect. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:00:55 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: lennon's on sale again > > (I don't believe in hell but I'm pretty sure one just popped > into existence > > on my behalf. Okay, you win, Viv, some things ARE sacred. I'm gonna go > > take a bunch of showers now.) > > Actually, I was arguing that some things _aren't_ sacred. Right. I grossed myself out so much I forgot what it was I was trying to prove. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:24:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: lennon's on sale again >Does anyone have an opinion on _OVO_? I haven't heard it yet. You remind me that I need to buy it, though. It will be a rare case of me SUCKING THE CORPORATE TEAT by buying retail. (Y'know, I think the only releases I've bought for full retail price in the past *three years* are the Sugarplastic's Resin and the Flaming Lips' Zaireeka. Jeebus bless L.A.'s secondhand record stores! And actually, I could've bought Resin directly from the band if I had waited a few more weeks....) Eb, who *still* hasn't found a used copy of The Soft Bulletin...speaks well for the album, I guess! np: Twisted Sister/"We're Not Gonna Take It" (YAH!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:34:54 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: the real temptation On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Ken Ostrander wrote: > ok, what's the dealio with these things? since my camera has shit the bed, i'm > looking to get something new for the crass consumer holiday x. do you save > money on film processing; but lose out on quality of prints? would i be better > off with a video camera? is there such a thing as a digital movie camera? > does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight? Digital cameras pretty much suck in my opinion. Few lens options, and no control over aperture and shutter speed. I saw a write up a few years ago about a forth-coming insert device that would fit into standard SLR cameras. It looked kind of like a film canister with extended medium and semi-spool looking thing. With a projected retail price of $1800, it was way out my range. It was a digital image grabber that allowed you to use all your SLR cameras, lens etc... I have yet to see this device in any store and would buy one if it cost about the same as a mid-range digital camera. Digital cameras are convenient but the quality is low. Low quality, quick, easy and convenient; like a prostitute. Yuck!!!!!!! It just ain't the same. Sure you can take "some" good pictures with them, but those little pocket cameras using 110 can take fairly good pictures, occasionally, at a family reunion, with lots of natural light, if you are lucky. I have 2 old Canon AE-1s and a few lenses and have no desire to own a digital camera, at least as they are now. Think of Crater Lake, Glacier National Park, Big Bend National Park, the Rockies from Texas to Canada, the Golden Gate Bridge, the Oregon Coast etc... and then think of what you'll get by saving those memories with a digital camera. Yuck!!!!!!! If anyone knows about advancements in digital camera technology, please let me know. gss np-take a chance on me, abba (don't laugh it has some interesting backing vocal harmonies and those chicks had voices that could give Jesus an erection). Oh shit, here comes 'fernando'. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:07:49 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: mumblemumbleGENOCIDEmumblemumbleCAPITALISTDOGmumblemumbleOPPRE SSION.... On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, drop the holupki wrote: > (2) i'm not going to change feg so replies are directed to the list, why is that exactly? just curious. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "The whole Bush family, from Texas, should be boiled in poison oil." -Hunter S. Thompson ------------------------------ Date: 28 Nov 00 18:25:59 PST From: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: lennon's on sale again Andrew Simchick wrote at Eb: >> Sorry, I tuned out after "gigantic multinational corporations." >Tell us again how you think people who use the word "corporation" >in a negative light have nothing to say. I don't think everyone >has picked up on your opinion yet. >Drew Just curious on how many of you smug, self-righteous, nonconsuming, capitalist-haters sent an email Friday with '.com' or '.net' at the end of your so-cool and original name. Even worse - how many of those advertised for Yahoo at the same time? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:40:03 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: lennon's on sale again corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate corporate when we last left our heroes, Eb exclaimed: >(Y'know, I think the only releases I've bought for full retail price in the >past *three years* are the Sugarplastic's Resin and the Flaming Lips' >Zaireeka. Jeebus bless L.A.'s secondhand record stores! And actually, I >could've bought Resin directly from the band if I had waited a few more >weeks....) i'm usually a bottom feeder when not buying an album directly from the artist or from reasonably-priced indie labels/mail order but over the past couple years, i've started buying some things new if only to register a blip on soundscan. i know it doesn't make a difference, but it seems like the right thing to do when i can afford it (which, currently, i can't). >np: Twisted Sister/"We're Not Gonna Take It" (YAH!!!) have i mentioned that dee snyder is the morning show host on connecticut's modern rawk station? the teevee commercials (woop woop!) where he threateningly walks around in a long trenchcoat in the shadows, comes into the light and cheerfully says, "it's me! dee snyder! see ya!" scare me. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:44:03 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: mumblemumbleGENOCIDEmumblemumbleCAPITALISTDOGmumblemumbleOPPRE SSION.... when we last left our heroes, J. Brown exclaimed: >On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, drop the holupki wrote: >> (2) i'm not going to change feg so replies are directed to the list, > >why is that exactly? just curious. pretty much sums it up. +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:52:52 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: the real temptation At 05:41 PM 11/28/00 -0500, GSS wrote: >On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, JH3 wrote: >> >Wow, Jesus in the buff,,, with an erection! I sure hope you had >> >film in that camera. >> >> I suspect this is just a wind-up, actually. Everybody knows Jesus can >> only get it up to the tune of Twisted Sister's "I Wanna Rock." > >Was that a wind-up Jesus or a wind-up erection? > All together now (ready, Quail?): "he's not the kind you have to wind up, on Sundays" Eric "excommunicated on his way to Sunday school" L. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:08:50 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: rh sonic book when we last left our heroes, brian nupp exclaimed: >>I'd like too much if you can inform the fans about the book. >> >The book it will be titled: "Robyn Hitchcock. Middle-Class Hero" and >>it'll >> >be distributed in the second half of December. The little book (CD-size >> >format) >Boy, this is great news! So does that mean it's coming out on cd rom format >or in a book the size of a cd, or a book with a cd? there's some information about these sonic book things at . from the looks of it, they appear to be cd-sized books with a cd (or "minicd" which i assume means 3" cd). i'm trying to figure out how to order these things, but my italian is crusty and babelfish is no helpa to me. i have asked the author if it would be possible to mass order a bunch of them to me to make it easier to distribute to folks in north america so we'll see where that goes. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:38:45 -0600 From: steve Subject: Taking over the world, one Starbucks at a time http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2000/11/28/china_starbucks/index.html - - Steve __________ If they know our secrets, why can't we know theirs? - Dana Scully ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:13:26 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: chad row almost as good as "blame florida". +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:35:27 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: chad row when we last left our heroes, drop the holupki exclaimed: > > >almost as good as "blame florida". but not as good as (flash required, blah blah blah) +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 01:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: lennon's on sale again Matt Yudt wrote: > Just curious on how many of you smug, self-righteous, nonconsuming, > capitalist-haters sent an email Friday with '.com' or '.net' at the > end of your so-cool and original name. Even worse - how many > of those advertised for Yahoo at the same time? one can be critical of the way capitalism is practiced in contemporary society without being a "capitalist-hater." no matter what rush bimbo tells you. ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:00:26 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: it's sold 800 copies already! brian nupp wrote: > > The 1st Dexy's album was really great, I thought, but what the hell happened > on the 2nd one? Rowland told the rest of the band, whilst on stage, that they were all fired. So the second album really only has Kevin (and his enormous ego) in common. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:05:29 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: uk appearances - did anybody go? Bayard wrote: > > any uk fegs attend either of these?: > > 22 November > The Cluny > Newcastle-on-Tyne nope, but my composite friend Andy went, and liked it. He has no idea of Robyn's work, so an in-depth analysis won't be forthcoming. Stewart (get ye the Mull Historical Society single. It's like The Beta Band with better timing, or Badly Drawn Boy gone jangly.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:06:12 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Mull Historical Society Stewart wrote get ye the Mull Historical Society single. What label is it on? I was born in Oban just a short ferry hop away, doncha know... jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:37:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Lennon tributes Here's another one: Latin Quarter: Truth about John Does anybody remember Latin Quarter? There was a time when I really liked them a lot ;-) Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ taz muss sein. abomail@taz.de http://www.taz.de ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:30:14 -0500 From: "Irish Airman" Subject: Dyslexic post-feminist atexts Lennon, buying none of it Quail wrote: >a consortium of >dyslexic post-feminists at a "Finnegans Wake" convention. Damn it man, got my number and I dont even like Yes that much;-)(but do - -love- the albumn covers.) This again is pre-mortem, but now Im interested in Lennon-related songs in general so.. . I have a friend on the Dylan LS whose working on an opus on how John Wesley Harding is the Amercian rebuttal of Sgt Pepper. Im going to ask him if there are any specific Lennon refs Also--what about the whole interelation of Dylan and Lennon? In this month's Q theres a big blurb on that. How Norwegian Wood was Lennon doing Dylan and making it his own, and then Dylan did 4th Time Around("I never asked for your crutch, now dont ask for mine" love that line)to make it his own. Has Dylan done anything Lennon-relevant since Lennon's death? Hmmm. Does having Lennon and Dylan in the same sentance count as Robyn Hitchcock content? I love the idea of Buy-Nothing Day. Believe it or not, middle-age, middle-class fart that I am, if it werent for this LS I wouldnt have known about it. Now granted, I niether read newspapers nor watch the news, choosing to be ignorant instead of overly-choked with useless info--but still--this message is -not- getting out to the people who are actually doing the buying. And most people, on principle, dislike protestors, seeing protestors as overly-zealous andjudgmental(no one likes to feel preached to.) So how do you get interesting ideas like that out without alienating the very people you say you want to reach? Frankly, Im not sure protests do it. Street-theater sounds better, but its not quite there. Really-to effect substantial change in this society you have to reach the behomoth of the middle-class. And it makes itself pretty unreachable. I think the answer is to not preach agaisnt, but to offer more attractive alternatives. Are you against the commercialization of Christmas(dont, I really mean it, dont get me started)? Then find ways to make and publisize a Solistice Celebration(of whatever flavor you choose) which is better and does more for the spirit than what the stores can offer. People will then choose to walk away from crap. There, now Ive finished my overly-zealous, judgemental bit K GSS wrote >Jesus in the buff,,, with an erection!< One can always dream of course(sigh.) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:11:03 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: BusterCretin Productions In a message dated 11/28/00 4:15:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > Theaters are compensated accordingly. Movie making is highly risky; > the studios have it rough, in my opinion The studios hurt absolutely nil. >> Oh really? is it really that easy to turn a profit? Are you saying that because of video and other secondary markets, that it is impossible for 6th Day to lose money? For that matter, is it possible for any blockbuster to lose money? After all, there is all that Blockbuster Video money pouring in...In that case, why whouldn't everybody make films? Hell, if it's that easy to make your money back I know about 50 people who could go to work tomorrow on a film. Hey buddy, there is no risk!!!! It will all come back eventually!!! Where do you get you information? If everyone finds out how easy and safe it is to make films, everyone will do it!!!! I stated that the the Theaters are compensated accordingly. Your response was "I wonder if you believe this shit." Yes, I do believe this shit. <> Ohhhh, why don't you head a studio and see how popular your films are. I like popcorn movies. I'd hate to see what films you'd greenlight. Taste, as you know, is subjective. The 6th Day looked good to somebody on paper. I'm sure many many people would call the films you like total shit <> I'm not sure how distribution fees are recovered, but are you saying that theaters pay for Prints and advertising? That is, after all, Distribution. I seriously doubt theaters pay for the prints, but since you know everything maybe you can clarify. And what do you mean theater owners pay for every ass in every seat? They get cash in hand before people enter the theater. Hardly a risk there. They aren't paying for the people in the seats. The people have paid to be there, and the Exhibitor is rightfully required to hand over the majority of that money to the people who drew the crowd in the first place. Once again, I said Exhibitors are compensated acordingly. Lets play a game for fun, since you seem to be barrels of fun. I'll be a studio. Call me BusterCretin Productions. You'll be an exhibitor. I'll call you Shithead theaters. I'm making a film called Pearl Harbor for Summer 2001. Budget for production is 145 million. Lets say that Prints and Advertising are going to cost me another 50 million (I plan to release this film wider than any other film in history...) I have 195 million of my money invested in a product. Many people's careers are on the line. This film is a huge risk for all involved. If this film tanks, BusterCretin Prods could lose millions and millions. What do you think you should be compensated? After all, if the film is a bust you can usher it out of theaters and make way for Mission Impossible 17. And just think, if it's successful, you get to ride the gravy train for weeks. If it's successful, it will make you a ton of money cause you know your profit sharing increases with the life of the film. So if it has legs, and baby, Pearl Harbor will have legs, you'll get your stinking cash. By the way, if the film is a bomb, do you think you can share some of the hefty money you make on concessions? Secondary markets bring in money to the studios. Of course. But generally they can't make up for disasterous theatrical releases. There will always be Austin Powers, Bill & Teds, etc, films that really take off on video. But what about Red Planet? 75 Million Production. 25 Million prints and Advetising. It's grossed less than 14 Million theatrically. But hey, Hakuna Matata! You've got 75 million to make up. No problem baby!!! Just wait till video and the gravy will roll in!!!!! Your words are super duper encouraging to me. I am editing a feature film right now. We have about $100,000 into the piece. I'm going to tell our investors not to worry cause you said they'll all get their money back eventually anyway!!! They'll be soo exctited!!! Blatzy!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:12:58 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: Rebel Rebel In a message dated 11/28/00 4:15:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: << On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > I protested "Buy Nothing Day" by going on a shopping spree... Wow. I bet you felt like a rebel... out there alone, doing what few dare... >> Yeah, I did feel like a rebel. If only for a day.... I got a taste of what it must be like to be you. Since you go around wearing "rebel" on your sleeve constantly... Blatzy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:15:49 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: Dyslexic post-feminist atexts Lennon, buying none of it when we last left our heroes, Irish Airman exclaimed: >GSS wrote >Jesus in the buff,,, with an erection!< > >One can always dream of course(sigh.) tori amos has dibs: "Doing it with a priest never got me off, they wash it so often! But doing it with Jesus, now that is something else! Most Christian women would be trained to think that even this thought is blasphemous. But I say that's a load of bollocks! That's how women are paralyzed, disconnected from the source of their own power, by religion. I've nearly always believed that Jesus Christ really liked Mary Magdalene and and that if he was, as he claimed to be, a whole man, he had to have sexual relations with her. So in my deepest, most private moments I've wanted Christ to be the boyfriend I've been waiting for. And a lot of Christian girls have a crush on Jesus. I may have felt guilty at the thought of wanting to do it with Jesus but then I say why not? He *was* a man." +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:19:56 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: A fork next to your spoon Plus question On topic, has anyone seen the lyrics to Allright Yeah? I love the line "I gotta walk, but I'm gonna put my fork next to your spoon" Half the time I sing it like that. The other half, (the better half) sings: "I gotta wok, but I'm gonna put my fork next to your spoon" I like the Wok better, but I guess Walk fits into the song better ON a different note, all this talk about thinking about where my spent dollars go has gotten me thinking.... I'm going to buy my wife a vibrator today, but I want my purchase to be politacally correct. Can someone please help with this? What companies make the most politically correct vibrators. Are there any I should stay away from? Your ass-isstance is greatly appreciated Blatzy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:14:55 -0700 From: hbrandt Subject: Re: Taking over the world, one Starbucks at a time steve wrote: > > http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2000/11/28/china_starbucks/index.html Ha! My wife recently went on a business trip to Beijing, and was startled to see the aforementioned Starbucks. She even took a picture: http://personal.milehigh.net/hbrandt/china/starbucks.jpg /hal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:48:30 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: Re: A fork next to your spoon Plus question >ON a different note, all this talk about thinking about where my spent >dollars go has gotten me thinking.... I'm going to buy my wife a vibrator >today, but I want my purchase to be politacally correct. Can someone please >help with this? What companies make the most politically correct vibrators. >Are there any I should stay away from? Y'know, I hate to sound like a broken record here, but for shit's sake, STAY AWAY FROM THESE NEW DIGITAL VIBRATORS. It's bad enough that the @#$%&!! batteries wear out much more quickly, but what really sucks about them is those ADC recording chips in the tip area that you can't turn OFF! Whose idea *was* that, anyway? And what kind of perverted FREAK would want their auto-erotic orgasms broadcast over the internet in one of those ultra-lossy "streaming clideo" formats? Sheesh! Anyway, to answer your question, there's a company called Moosewood Natural Vibrations, Inc. of Burlington, Vermont that at least *claims* that they don't do any animal testing. I guess I forgot the URL, though... And in other news, Tori Amos sez: >But doing it with Jesus, now that is something else! Most Christian >women would be trained to think that even this thought is blasphemous. >But I say that's a load of bollocks! That's how women are paralyzed, >disconnected from the source of their own power, by religion. Actually, men are paralyzed and disconnected by this sort of thing too! I can't tell you how many times I've fantasized about having wild sex with female religious figures who have been dead for centuries, only to realize that alas, it can never be... I mean, unless the corpses have been properly mummified, obviously. John "don't come near me with that thing" Hedges ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #346 *******************************