From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #334 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 17 2000 Volume 09 : Number 334 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: space, thumbs, Chrissie, Commas, and Al (no, not that one) [Michael R] bend over, tiny dancer [GSS ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 [Marshall Needleman Armintor ] Re: u before g [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: When Chrissie Sings [Jeff Dwarf ] puddy pops ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] item of interest (99 44/100% RH content) [Glen Uber ] Re: item of interest (99 44/100% RH content) [drop the holupki ] The Great Eyeball of China [JH3 ] Re: The Great Eyeball of China [Eb ] great photo ["brian nupp" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: great photo [Viv Lyon ] Re: great photo [Capuchin ] words and spaces [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: words and spaces [Viv Lyon ] Live365 [Tom Clark ] Re: Live365 [Capuchin ] Re: Live365 [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:37:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: space, thumbs, Chrissie, Commas, and Al (no, not that one) On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, James Dignan wrote: > Her cover of the Byrds' "Goin' Back" was pretty fine, mind you. I haven't heard Chrissie's version, but I bet it's not a patch on Dusty Springfield's reading. Incidentally, it wasn't written by the Byrds, but by Carole King and (presumably) Gerry Goffin. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Spike Jones, "Cocktails for Two" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:41:59 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: bend over, tiny dancer It is getting worse. Want it to keep getting worse? Keep electing those lifetime politicians. Just keep it up and support the system. FBI Releases More Documents On Carnivore - Update By Brian Krebs, Newsbytes WASHINGTON, D.C., U.S.A., 16 Nov 2000, 5:14 PM CST The FBI released another batch of previously classified documents on its now infamous e-mail surveillance system, also known as "Carnivore." Among the 362 pages released today are documents that appear to indicate the FBI's surveillance device could trap more data than necessary, a suspicion widely held by a number of consumer and privacy groups since news of Carnivore broke earlier this year. "The information in today's packet seems to conflict with what the FBI said about how Carnivore collects information that's been filtered," said David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), the group that filed the Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, which led a court to force the Justice Department to begin releasing the documents. The FBI has assured consumers and privacy groups that its e-mail surveillance system only traps messages that are specified under a court order. In a hearing before Congress on the matter, the FBI testified that the system only captures data that has been isolated by a software filter that "minimizes" collection and limits it to scope of information authorized under the court order. But according to several of the documents obtained today which document an early "real world" PC test of the system, Carnivore is "capable of capturing and archiving all traffic to the hard drive." Sobel said that admission seems to suggest that FBI's surveillance tool may in fact capture data that does not necessarily relate to the investigation at hand. "I always go into this process of getting these documents with the assumption that they're really going to raise questions and not give us answers," Sobel said. "But this clearly gives us some more questions." Pursuant to the court order, the FBI promised to release batches of records at 45-day intervals. This is the second such interval. The release of documents came in reply to a Freedom of Information Act request issued by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), which convinced a court to ask the FBI to make available information on the e-mail snooping device. According to documents posted on the Electronic Privacy Information Center's (EPIC) Web site, the Carnivore program began under the name "Omnivore" in February 1997, originally run on a Solaris X86 computer. That system was replaced two years later by Carnivore, which uses a Windows NT-based computer that attaches to an ISP's network to sift through incoming and outgoing traffic. In the last batch of 400 pages or so, the FBI had redacted or blackened out more than half of the content. Sobel said the latest batch seems to be less censored. But, he said, the FBI said it is anticipating the disclosure process would be completed by Dec. 1. "We have now received less than a 1000 pages," out of the total 3,000 documents the FBI said it had relating to Carnivore back in August. "I think that means they're going to end up withholding the bulk of it, because I can't believe within the next few weeks they're going to process a great number of additional documents," Sobel said. Today's disclosure comes just one day before an independent review team at the Illinois Institute of Technology Research Institute (IITRI) is expected to file a draft technical report on the Carnivore system. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and a number of privacy groups have declared the "independent review" a sham, noting that the IITRI review team members include a former Clinton administration policy advisor and a former Justice Department official. Several other members of the team have backgrounds with the National Security Agency. http://newsbytes.com/news/00/158282.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:45:07 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Needleman Armintor Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 <<> I finally saw "Dogma" and "Magnolia" during recent days, and absolutely *adored* both of them. I adored Magnolia but i found dogma very so-so. Kevin Smith is just a crappy director great screenplays though.>> Good, I'm glad somebody else agrees with me. There are some nice moments in Kevin Smith's work, but he's too friggin' scattershot: his movies have too damn many words in them, you'd think he was Adam Ant's late-70s output or something. _Dogma_ was a lark, but _Chasing Amy_ I found utterly repellent. Still haven't seen Magnolia yet. marshall np a Sandy Denny comp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:06:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: u before g "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > > From: Eb > > > Heck, Thom Yorke's the one who sings on the new album...could it > > be...? > > Or > > maybe Nick's crony *Mick* Harvey, her prime collaborator on the new > > album? > > > > Mick Harvey sounds plausible. But can you imagine: "Bjork Yorke"? well, considering Bjork rhymes with work, rather than pork, it's not quite that bad. but still pretty goofy. not that it'll happen. after all, even post-marriage to Siouxsie Sioux, he remained Budgie even though everyone was hoping it'd become Budgie Sioux. or was that just me. ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:16:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: When Chrissie Sings Irish Airman wrote: > Eb wrote: > >Incidentally, isn't it peculiar that Hynde is *still* such a major, > high-profile name despite releasing very little of note beyond her > first > three albums? I mean, it's been 16 years since Learning to > Crawl...how > much > slack should we cut her? > > Well its been a few, but isnt Last Of the Independents with "Night in > my Veins"(oh yeah), "Im a Mother" and her cover of "Forever Young" > within the last 5 years? That works for me. She does has a life folks. that's like 93, 94 maybe. of course, that horrible "i'll stand by you" was in there too. > Then Jeff Dwarf added: > > i think it's because great female rock voices*, especially somewhat > > deeper ones (would she qualify as a true alto?) like Hynde's are so > > rare that we tend to overcling to the ones we have. > > Yes, great alto (or close too it, a lot of us slide around tween > second soprano and alto;-), but its not just the notes--its the > phrasing. This woman has incredible phrasing. The actual beauty of > the tone is one thing, it's something youre pretty much born with the > potential for. Phrasing is intelligence. There are voices I love for > tone (John Sebastian being one), there are voices I love for > phrasing (Robyn being one) and then there are the voices of the > divine with tone and phrasing (as in--are you ready--yup--here > he is again, John Lennon (oh, and Chrissie Hynde too.)) true; i meant both, but you said it better than i did. just listen to that song she did with Moodswings. like butta. which really makes some of here material frustrating. same with Sinead O'Connor, though i don't think her phrasing is quite as good. > By the way I noticed no one picked up on Blazman's --most-- > controversial topic: Respect--the great neglected underated Hitchcock > albumn. The CD which tore a listserve apert. > But love will keep us together. i thought it was brian wilson that nearly tore everything apart... ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:42:00 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: puddy pops >From: BLATZMAN@aol.com > >And I guess you haven't been around the >last 3 years to hear my biting comments about the last 2 totally shitty >Hitchcock studio albums. Ahhh, now do you remember? I am not trying to >start anything again, but I don't have anything nice to say about the last 2 >CD's, so I try to keep quiet cause it seems some people here can't take >hearing anything negative about their hero. This list doesn't come off to me as a "Robyn is God" list. A certain newsgroup devoted to a certain artist I still consider one of my all-time favorites reacted very poorly to criticism of that artist's output, though. I think I'm still quoted in some archive somewhere saying how much I loathed a particular B-side, as a straight man to a totally humor- and content-free "rebuttal" to my criticism. That sort of thing really soured me not only to that newsgroup but to that genre in general, eventually, which is really sad. I think people here are a lot more willing to tolerate different opinions about Robyn. That said, it's hard for me to understand how you loved Respect but hated the last two albums. I really like Respect but I like Moss Elixir and Jewels for Sophia much better. They weren't "totally shitty" at all. But I "can take" hearing you put forth that obviously incorrect opinion. :) >on as long as I want to. So, the price of being on this list for you is to >have to deal with widdle Puddy Tats twice a year. The price of me being on What is this "Puddy Tat" stuff? Do you somehow fancy yourself Sylvester to our Tweety? >I guess you need to be reminded that this list is no more yours than it is >mine. So I guess we can both wish and wish and wish that all the people we >don't agree with would just shut up. A good friend of mine shares a lot of your opinions. But he is able to express them without coming off like a flaming asshole. I don't wish he would shut up. >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >well judgement is correct unless you're American (although how the hell >you're meant to pronounce the word with a hard g eludes me) Um, me too. ??? > >From: Eb > >Oh, and I got a kick out of the "Magnolia" cast singing together. I also >think it served the structural purpose of foreshadowing the film's >departure from strict "realism," later. Great song, too -- better than >"Save Me," the one which got the Oscar nomination. "Wise Up" had been in _Jerry Maguire_ before and wasn't a new song, which might explain it. I loved both movies too; kind of neat to see you gush. :) Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen.com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:15:50 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber Subject: item of interest (99 44/100% RH content) I received the following in my inbox this morning. Thought all'yall would like to see it. Cheers! - -g- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 19:11:41 +0100 From: dopachino To: uberg@sonic.net hi, a book on robyn hitchcock it'll be out soon (december) published by stampa alternativa edizioni in english/italian language. it'll be CD-format size and it'll feature tre untrealised track by hitchcock; a brand new interview; paintings, rare lyrics and poems and a big discography. the volume will be written by luca ferrari, known italian writer, author of books on syd barrett, third ear band, tim buckley and nick drake. for info's and copies send a mail to: pick up records worldwide distribution: pickup@pickuprecordsit thanks for all the promotion you can do... bye, luca ferrari ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:46:57 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: item of interest (99 44/100% RH content) when we last left our heroes, Glen Uber exclaimed: >I received the following in my inbox this morning. Thought all'yall would >like to see it. i got that note a few days ago but haven't had to chance to post the info to the list or the fegsite yet. here are more details: >From: "dopachino" >To: "drop the holupki" >Subject: R: robyn hitchcock's book >Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:02:44 +0100 > >hi, >thanks a lot for your answer. >I'd like too much if you can inform the fans about the book. >The book it will be titled: "Robyn Hitchcock. Middle-Class Hero" and it'll >be distributed in the second half of December. The little book (CD-size >format), as I told you, has born with the great and constant contribution of >Robyn and his wife Michhle, and will feature rare Robyn photoes; 3 >unrealised tracks; 5 paintings (2 made by Raymond Hitchcock); a long >interview made at his home on the last March; a very big discography >(include web sites, books, articles...); lyrics and poems (complete >unrealised) selected by Hitchcock himself. >The book will be out in English/Italian language, edited by Stampa >Alternativa, an editor placed in Rome, in a label called "Sonic Book" (I've >got other totles written by myself, include Syd Barrett, Tim Buckley, Third >Ear Band, Nick Drake and Captain Beefheart...) everyone interested could be >get copies through or the worldwide distributor: Pick Up Records, via Jacopo >Da Ponte, 52 - 36061 Bassano del Grappa (VI) - fax 0424 216777 (e-mail: >pickup@pickuprecordsit http://www.pickuprecords.it) or get informations >through: Stampa Alternativa Edizioni - P.O.Box 741 - 00100 Roma >(http://stampalternativa.it). > >For any other questions, >please contact me. >Thanks a lot again, > >luca ferrari ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:51:01 EST From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: item of interest (99 44/100% RH content) >I'd like too much if you can inform the fans about the book. > >The book it will be titled: "Robyn Hitchcock. Middle-Class Hero" and >it'll > >be distributed in the second half of December. The little book (CD-size > >format) Boy, this is great news! So does that mean it's coming out on cd rom format or in a book the size of a cd, or a book with a cd? Good news no matter what... December looks good, just in time for buying myself a nice holiday gift! Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:07:56 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Marshall Needleman Armintor wrote: > I adored Magnolia but i found dogma very so-so. Kevin Smith is just a > crappy director great screenplays though.>> > > Good, I'm glad somebody else agrees with me. There are some nice > moments in Kevin Smith's work, but he's too friggin' scattershot: his > movies have too damn many words in them, you'd think he was Adam Ant's > late-70s output or something. _Dogma_ was a lark, but _Chasing Amy_ I > found utterly repellent. I thought Dogma was fairly amusing, but with the worst ending I've ever seen in a movie... Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:09:20 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: The Great Eyeball of China First: I wasn't joking when I stated that the Great Wall is visible from space. Unfortunately, I can't give you a citation on it - all of the evidence seems to be anecdotal in the form of conversations with various astronauts, AFAIK. Also, it depends on how good the astronaut's eyesight is, doesn't it? (I *think* the first astronaut to be quoted on this was Jim Lovell, but it's been a while since I was into that stuff.) Meanwhile, The Cecil Adams column that's been referred to actually suggests that *many* man-made structures can be seen in daylight from space, depending on how you define the word "structure." Also, a lot of the claims you hear that this is a myth are actually in response to the notion that you can see the wall from the *moon*, not from Earth orbit. Finally, I'd guess that the reason the GWOC can be seen from space as opposed to, say, the Great Pyramid of Cheops or Rosie O'Donnell, is that it doesn't blend into the surrounding terrain quite as much. Try here: http://www.geography.about.com/science/geography/library/weekly/aa090100a.htm Second: This whole "naked eye" issue is yet another instance of two people arguing who are both correct. Capuchin is obviously referring to "explosive depressurization," whereby if someone all- of-a-sudden removed their helmet in outer space, the instantaneous loss of pressure *would* cause the soluble gases in their head to expand back into gaseous form so quickly that the head in question would, indeed, "explode." Even if the depressurization lasted 5-10 minutes, the person would get "the bends," which would of course cause Eb to say "Ehhhh..." since it's the title of a Radiohead album, albeit a *far, far* better one than their current release. But as long as the depressurization took place over, say, 9-12 hours, the human body could adjust to the change with no problem, as Terry M. has suggested. You'd still freeze to death, though. Third: There is no third item. Fourth: Why is Ebbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb considered to be our "resident grammarian"? (Note the question mark placed correctly outside the quotation marks.) Sure, his grammar is usually quite good, if not impeccable, but has he ever been a professional editor or proofreader? (Eb?) There are at least four of us (including me) who have been so employed at some time or other, but AFAIK, Eb's job prior to becoming a pop-culture journalist was CEO of Dow Chemical Corporation. Admittedly, merely having been employed as an editor or proofreader doesn't always make you an authority on the language, but even so, I don't recall many instances where Eb has cited actual rules of correct usage, though he occasionally will object to certain overused popular phrases. (BTW, penultimate serial commas *are* called for by most style manuals.) Fifth: >try closing your eyes and tapping your heels together 3 times >"there's no place like the Feglist, there's no place like the Feglist, >there's no place like the Feglist..." It will transport you to a world >where everyone thinks just wike yoooo. I tried this, and it didn't work! Not only did the world *look* the same, but people continue to ask me to do stuff for them, even though *I* think they should just deal with their problems on their own. (Ooops, wait a minute, would that make me a conservative?) Sixth: >can anyone recommend a program for turning MP3s back into >WAVs? What's wrong with CDCOPY's "Decompress MP3" feature? After all, B, you're the one who got me using CDCOPY in the first place... is there something you're not telling me? John "not on the internet full-time, like SOME people" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:00:41 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Great Eyeball of China JH3: >Eb >Ebbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb >Eb? >Eb's >Eb Stop that. I'm starting to feel like Shane. ;) >(BTW, penultimate serial commas *are* called for by >most style manuals.) I believe Chicago style says yes, and AP style says no. Correct? I much prefer leaving them out, myself. A sentence like "I bought eggs, cereal, and spaghetti sauce, before checking myself into a sanitarium" is a lot harder to process with that extra comma, it seems to me. Not sure what Terrence finds so objectionable about the ending of "Dogma"...it worked for me. Worst ending ever? "Fatal Attraction" and "The Magnificent Ambersons" pop into my mind.... Eb, who has been a proofreader/copy editor, but never claimed to be the list's "resident grammatarian" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:54:48 EST From: "brian nupp" Subject: great photo There's a great pix of Robyn on e-bay. I think it's from around the 1980 era. Type in keyword: soft boys hitchcock yellow Was this single a bootleg or an official release? Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:57:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 on 11/17/00 12:07 PM, Terrence Marks at normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > I thought Dogma was fairly amusing, but with the worst ending I've ever > seen in a movie... Are you kidding me? How can you not like an ending where a guy gets up in God's face and yells "Who the fuck are you and what the fuck happened to that guy's head?"??? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:19:48 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #333 Tom Clark wrote: > Terrence Marks at normal@grove.ufl.edu wrote: > > I thought Dogma was fairly amusing, but with the worst ending I've > > ever seen in a movie... > Are you kidding me? How can you not like an ending where a guy gets > up in God's face and yells "Who the fuck are you and what the fuck > happened to that guy's head?"??? but alanis was terrible. i know that kevin smith was trying to capture a certain innocence and child-like-ness in how he had alanis acting as god, but i just don't think she pulled it off. other than that, i have not real complaints. well, that and kevin smith needs to get someone to spring for some higher grade film. who does he think he is, steve albini? ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:26:02 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: great photo On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, brian nupp wrote: > There's a great pix of Robyn on e-bay. I think it's from around the 1980 > era. > Type in keyword: soft boys hitchcock yellow YEOW! He looks all evil and malign! I mean that in the best possible way, of course. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: great photo On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, brian nupp wrote: > There's a great pix of Robyn on e-bay. I think it's from around the > 1980 era. Type in keyword: soft boys hitchcock yellow > > Was this single a bootleg or an official release? This is the single that came out along with the Overground release of Raw Cuts (From the Raw Records stuff that was released in several other formats, if I'm thinking straight today). um... 1989. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:59:32 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: words and spaces >really?? so in XTC's "Towers of London," when Partridge sings "La La >LonDINium," is that supposed to be some obscure reference to the metal? As I'm sure you know, you devil you, Londinium was the Roman name for London. Other such Roman cities include Verulamium (St Albans), Eboracum (York), and San Franciscium (Los Angeles). >However, based on 4 years of intensive daily Physics courses during the >late 80's (and nightly alcoholic binges), here's my gut feel: without >the aid of magnification, I sincerely doubt it's possible to see the >Great Wall of China from orbit (or what we tend to think of as a >standard orbital distance from the ground). Don't you guys have NASA >Select TV where you live? waah! No. >PS And have you ever heard Americans pronounce "herbs"? Ilarious! and what's all this with stressing the first syllable of words like research, defence, and revoke? Jamesium James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:12:06 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: words and spaces On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, James Dignan wrote: > >really?? so in XTC's "Towers of London," when Partridge sings "La La > >LonDINium," is that supposed to be some obscure reference to the metal? I visited the Tower of London, and while there this song ran relentlessly through my head so many times that I had to leave just to get the song to stop. > and what's all this with stressing the first syllable of words like > research, defence, and revoke? Uh, you've got us on the first two, but I have to speak up for my nation now and say that I've never heard anyone say RE-voke. RE-vote maybe, but not RE-voke. Vivium ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:21:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Live365 So I've been messing around with this Live365 site that lets you stream your MP3 collection directly from your computer. I haven't gotten it fully functioning yet, but when I do I'll let y'all know. My hope was to stream my 1400Megs of RH stuff on an All-Robyn channel, but they explicitly post pieces of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act which state that you can't play more than four songs from the same artist within the same three hour period. Bummer. Does anybody know of a way around this? Better yet, do we think the Museum would undertake such an activity on their own? Hell, I'll even host it for them. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:48:55 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Live365 On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Tom Clark wrote: > So I've been messing around with this Live365 site that lets you > stream your MP3 collection directly from your computer. Is this an icecast implementation or what? Do you use any old streaming mp3 player? Freeamp and such? > but they explicitly post pieces of the Digital Millennium Copyright > Act which state that you can't play more than four songs from the same > artist within the same three hour period. Bummer. Do they cite it specifically? I'm not aware of this provision. And I can't imagine how such a thing is justified. One more reason the DMCA is nonsense that must be repealed. > Better yet, do we think the Museum would undertake such an activity on > their own? Hell, I'll even host it for them. I don't see why not. Give 'em a buzz... err, a ring... err... something. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:34:19 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Live365 on 11/17/00 3:48 PM, Capuchin at capuchin@bitmine.net wrote: > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Tom Clark wrote: >> So I've been messing around with this Live365 site that lets you >> stream your MP3 collection directly from your computer. > > Is this an icecast implementation or what? Do you use any old streaming > mp3 player? Freeamp and such? > Icecast is apparently a similar technology. You can set it up on Live365.com a couple of ways, either upload your MP3's and stream from their server, or stream from your own machine to theirs and have them broadcast. I use Sound Jam on my PowerMac G4, but I guess Winamp works for the evil world. Dunno what's available to stream out for the Communal OS. >> but they explicitly post pieces of the Digital Millennium Copyright >> Act which state that you can't play more than four songs from the same >> artist within the same three hour period. Bummer. > > Do they cite it specifically? I'm not aware of this provision. > > And I can't imagine how such a thing is justified. > > One more reason the DMCA is nonsense that must be repealed. > Check it out: - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #334 *******************************