From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #331 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 15 2000 Volume 09 : Number 331 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: myths n' legends [Eleanore Adams ] Re: writing question ["John Bastin" ] Re: myths n' legends and flags and such [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dig] the f-word's here, the f-word's bad ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: the f-word's here, the f-word's bad [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: the f-word's here, the f-word's bad (and flags) [Ethyl Ketone ] Re: love, PJ, etc. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Elf Power threw the election in Georgia! [leahyc@tsainc.com] Re: "a total moron" writes [GSS ] from andromeda, i say [dmw ] and is my ass visible fom space? [Bayard ] Americans!! [Viv Lyon ] and is Bayard's ass visible fom space? [chrisg ] Re: and is my ass visible fom space? [JH3 ] Re: and is my ass visible fom space? [Capuchin ] Re: and is my ass visible fom space? [drop the holupki ] Re: myths n' legends [Eleanore Adams ] Re: and is my ass visible fom space? [Chadpuchin ] America is the place!!!!!!! [GSS ] re: underlight moonwater [Griffith Davies ] Creatures of Light ["brian nupp" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:09:09 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: myths n' legends Ken is correct - this is fact, not legend. eleanore Ken Ostrander wrote: > >> > At least Quail isn't enforcing the Rule of Thumb. > >> > >> That's because the "rule of thumb" is nothing but a myth or urban legend, > >> and the Quail is all about authenticity. > > > >not disputing you, but what is your source? > > The phrase "rule of thumb" is derived from an old English law which stated > that > you couldn't beat your wife with anything wider than your thumb. > > ken "you just had a near-life experience" the kenster > > np moby play: the b sides ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:51:30 AST From: "John Bastin" Subject: Re: writing question Ok, so punctuation is always to be included inside of quotation marks... But what about cases such as the following? (and should that question mark appear before the colon?): When you fill in the form, in the block labeled "Request for information", type "e-mail notice Courses". Do I place the comma and period inside the quote even though some dunderhead might just take it literally and not find the appropriate text field and, even if he/she does, might type the period along with the rest? Thanks, Eb, or whomever... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:16:52 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: myths n' legends and flags and such Vivien sed: >http://portland.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=290 > >and see a picture of me and the flag I made. It's an almost exact replica >of the "corporate states of america" flag they hung in the L.A. >protests... except I added some different logos. > >pps- yes, I realize this flag stuff is totally unrelated to the main body >of this post. I'm just all stoked about it, is all. hey - don't apologise... a pic of a babe with a flag - I'm in heaven! James (self confessed flag-nut) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:15:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: the f-word's here, the f-word's bad > From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Assuming you're talking to me (context clues): > So don't diminish your accomplishments. You are smarter than some and > you > shouldn't make excuses for it. I wish I was smarter. My point is that -- assuming I am smarter, which I think is debatable - -- I didn't get that way through hard work and sacrifice. I was born that way, into a family that encouraged me to nurture it. > < hard > all their lives and never reap the kinds of rewards you have. >> > > So what? So hard work and sacrifice may at best increase one's chances of success, but they are not necessary or sufficient conditions. The assumption that everyone who is successful "deserves" it -- and more importantly, the assumption that everyone who isn't "deserves" their lack of success -- is faulty. That's all I was saying. > Sometimes I wonder if this list > would just prefer Socialism. Sometimes I wonder the same thing. > What a retarded statement! "Calm yourself, Dr. Not-the-Nine-O'Clock-News. We are men of science!" > It's not a > safety-net > they want, it's a safety bed that they can sleep in for the rest of > their > lives...Have another kid, get more cash, it don't matter, someone will > always > take care of me!!!!! Have you ever been on welfare? Is it really as exciting and luxurious as you make it sound? > From: The Great Quail > > First of all, I feel kind of add remarking that jmbc's tone was > personally insulting only to have the Blatzcannon released a few > hours later. Well, geez, tell me you couldn't have seen that coming. :) > And that there, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason *I* love Robyn > so. Not just his lovely reply, but his pyscho-biological nonsense > itself, which speaks directly to me a person, as a human being fixed > in this weird world, and does more for me that most anything the > Village Voice can dream up. Many of Robyn's metaphors, while perhaps > obscure to some, speak volumes to my own experience and awareness, > and make *sense* in a way that goes right around language to pop open > a primal storehouse of images and symbols. I totally agree. This may be superficial but I love the little quasi- mythology of Robyn's body of work...not just the insects and prawns and statues and fish, but the ability of events and objects and people to transform and drift and float and appear and disappear, and in particular the marvelous, marvelous line in my favorite recent Robyn song, "No, I Don't Remember Guildford": "now there's a butterfly / on my face / and I'm a number / in a drawer". What a *rich* line. What a wonderful chill it brings. > From: Eb > Is it the Lou > Reed/Chrissie Hynde, etc. syndrome? PJ falls in love, and her art takes > a > turn for the worse? So who is she in love with, anyway? Or should I do my own research? :) > From: Jeff Dwarf > you cannot re-animate a corpse; it's 100% non-reversible. You stupid moron! Have you never read H.P. Lovecraft? ***SHEESH***! Drewtzman ===== Andrew D. Simchik: drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:43:59 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: poor old victimised Blatzy t 04:40 AM 11/14/00 -0500, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: >The last word to Blatzman (God, please let it be Blatzman's last word...) >UNCALLED FOR. >If we are about anything here, we are about speaking our true >minds. That's all Dave or you or anybody has done. Don't you dare try to >make somebody shut up. We are not about shutting up. >dolph Yeah, I know where he lives and blimey gosh didn't I tell to shut up, shut up, shut up and never come back ever ever ever ever otherwise I'd kill him until he was dead... Lighten up Dolph baby. Blatzman's been given yards of rope...and the saying goes... jmbc. Who will now keep quiet about his stupid idea that songs such as Devil's Radio make any comment whatsoever on right-wing outpourings such as Blatzman's...:-) P.S. It was nice to see Dave talk about Robyn for a couple of lines. That must be a first... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:54:27 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: "a total moron" writes > >Should we have a moral litmus for all > >those hoping to become a doctor of medicine? >gss > > Well actually there is one, it's called the Hippocratic Oath. And, to put > it as uncontroversially as I can, I think a lot more doctors (and their > supporters :-)) should take notice of it. >jmbc >It is an oath, not a test. >gss Christ, I guess that puts me in my place... jmbc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 00:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: myths n' legends again i ask with curiosity, what is your source? and no-one knows if the great wall of china is visible from space? Trivial Pursuit says yes, but they've been wrong before... On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Eleanore Adams wrote: > Ken is correct - this is fact, not legend. > > eleanore > > Ken Ostrander wrote: > > > >> > At least Quail isn't enforcing the Rule of Thumb. > > >> > > >> That's because the "rule of thumb" is nothing but a myth or urban legend, > > >> and the Quail is all about authenticity. > > > > > >not disputing you, but what is your source? > > > > The phrase "rule of thumb" is derived from an old English law which stated > > that > > you couldn't beat your wife with anything wider than your thumb. > > > > ken "you just had a near-life experience" the kenster > > > > np moby play: the b sides ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the f-word's here, the f-word's bad "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: >> From: Eb > > > Is it the Lou Reed/Chrissie Hynde, etc. syndrome? PJ falls in love, > > and her art takes a turn for the worse? > > So who is she in love with, anyway? Or should I do my own research? > :) and _blue mask_ was a good record. it's just being in love with laurie anderson that's made lou suck. and being in love with ray davies did the first three pretenders albums good. oh, PJ? i thought i heard something about nick cave.... not that' i'm eb. > > From: Jeff Dwarf > > > you cannot re-animate a corpse; it's 100% non-reversible. > > You stupid moron! Have you never read H.P. Lovecraft? ***SHEESH***! no. never read sci-fi actually. nor the bible. ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:08:29 -0500 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: the f-word's here, the f-word's bad (and flags) At 9:58 PM -0800 11/14/00, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >"Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > > Is it the Lou Reed/Chrissie Hynde, etc. syndrome? PJ falls in love, > > > and her art takes a turn for the worse? The person who turned me on to Robyn in '86 always felt that RHs work was better when he was out-of-love, not "in". He hates all the in-love albums. Eye is infinitely better to him than Moss Elixir of JFS. >oh, PJ? i thought i heard something about nick cave.... not that' i'm >eb. I am definitely not Eb but that is what I heard (as a bona fide Nick Cave fan). Be Seeing You. (I'd fly the California flag if I had one since I am homesick but not flying anything but my freak flag...) - -- "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** C. J. Galbraith Ketone Press meketone@ix.netcom.com www.bogdescu.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 22:31:58 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: love, PJ, etc. >>oh, PJ? i thought i heard something about nick cave.... not that' i'm >>eb. > >I am definitely not Eb but that is what I heard (as a bona fide Nick Cave >fan). I'm often known as Eb, and I've heard the Nick Cave story. But isn't that *old* gossip, from a few years ago? Heck, Thom Yorke's the one who sings on the new album...could it be...? Or maybe Nick's crony *Mick* Harvey, her prime collaborator on the new album? Or maybe she's not in love at all, and is just role-playing. Whatever. As for Chrissie Hynde, I was thinking more about Jim Kerr rather than Ray Davies. After all, Kerr was the one she married, right? Incidentally, isn't it peculiar that Hynde is *still* such a major, high-profile name despite releasing very little of note beyond her first three albums? I mean, it's been 16 years since Learning to Crawl...how much slack should we cut her? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 01:48:23 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: love, PJ, etc. Eb wrote: >>>oh, PJ? i thought i heard something about nick cave.... not that' >>>i'm eb. >> >>I am definitely not Eb but that is what I heard (as a bona fide Nick >>Cave fan). > > I'm often known as Eb, and I've heard the Nick Cave story. But isn't > that *old* gossip, from a few years ago? > > Heck, Thom Yorke's the one who sings on the new album...could it > be...? Or maybe Nick's crony *Mick* Harvey, her prime collaborator on > the new album? > > > Or maybe she's not in love at all, and is just role-playing. > Whatever. maybe. oh well. personally, i think it's her best one since _to give you my love,_ but i was rather disappointed with both _louse point_ & _is this desire._ of course, i can't really think of why mick harvey would be considered more of a prime collaborator than rob ellis on this one. > As for Chrissie Hynde, I was thinking more about Jim Kerr rather than > Ray Davies. After all, Kerr was the one she married, right? true, but she did have a kid with davies. marrying jim kerr could ruin anyone though. and she got married before the last one too; some colombian artist; name escapes me. > Incidentally, isn't it peculiar that Hynde is *still* such a major, > high-profile name despite releasing very little of note beyond her > first three albums? I mean, it's been 16 years since Learning to > Crawl...how much slack should we cut her? actually, it's more like 17, almost 18. it's amazing what having half your band die within a couple months'll do. and i think there's a lot of admiration for her to a great extent putting her career on hold while she was being a mother. mostly, i think it's because great female rock voices*, especially somewhat deeper ones (would she qualify as a true alto?) like Hynde's are so rare that we tend to overcling to the ones we have. *and i mean literally the voice. not her writing/words/etc; her voice. ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:56:49 -0600 From: leahyc@tsainc.com Subject: Re: Elf Power threw the election in Georgia! >> Afterwards, Bryan Helium tried on Viv's Road Warrior goggles >Which made him look EXACTLY like Neil Young for some reason. speaking of neil young, a friend of mine just gave me a cd of neil young covers performed by sean kelly. has anyone else heard this disc? on an entirely different note, last night i saw a mercedes-benz commercial telling me to read a book by henry miller. hmm... doesn't seem right. chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:13:16 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: "a total moron" writes On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > Christ, I guess that puts me in my place... No, you put yourself there a long time ago. This just reinforces your position. gss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:31:43 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: from andromeda, i say On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Bayard wrote: > also, is the Great Wall visible from space or not? you kiddin'? they've got satellites that can almost read newspapers from space! - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: and is my ass visible fom space? > > also, is the Great Wall visible from space or not? > > you kiddin'? they've got satellites that can almost read newspapers from > space! yes, and someday we'll all get our news this way! but no, mr. pathetic, i meant with the naked eye (wise guy). =b ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Americans!! My friend Laurence, who is British (and how!) forwarded this to me. Hence, for your enjoyment and edification, I summarily forward it on to y'all. NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE To the citizens of the United States of America, In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of yourindependence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchial dutiesoverall states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". 2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know onyour behalf. 3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. 4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. 5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through. 6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game.The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. 7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that thereis a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "shit". 8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day". 9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. 10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy. Thank you for your cooperation ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:32:48 -0500 From: chrisg Subject: and is Bayard's ass visible fom space? It is my understanding that the Great Wall is NOT visible from space with the naked eye. Remember, huge though the Wall is, most of this hugeness is length; it's no more than ten or fifteen meters wide, and you simply can't see a 15 m wide object from 200 km away. As for the "rule of thumb," we seem to be talking about two different things here. Yes, husbands were allowed to beat their wives (by custom if not by law); but no, this is NOT the origin of the phrase "rule of thumb." I've seen this covered in a couple of places, most recently (aside from the link Viv posted) in Cecil Adams's's's "Straight Dope" column. Just saw King Crimson in New York with Quail, LJ and Scary Mary. Woohoo! - --Chris, using the crappy WebMail client and hating it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:15:08 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: Re: and is my ass visible fom space? >> also, is the Great Wall visible from space or not? Yes! This has been confirmed by US astronauts as early as the Gemini program, and Soviet cosmonauts as early as the reign of Ivan the Terrible. The caveat here is that it's the only man-made construction that can be perceived in daylight. The lights of any decent-sized city can be easily seen at night, as can the Great Springfield Tire Fire. Another interesting bit of trivia: The mega-hog-farm facility outside of Williamsfield, IL is the only man-made construction that can actually be *smelled* from outer space... >Do I place the comma and period inside the quote even though some >dunderhead might just take it literally and not find the appropriate >text field and, even if he/she does, might type the period along >with the rest? Actually, most style guides *do* allow exceptions to the "inside the quotes" rule for documents such as legal briefs and technical documentation where total accuracy is required. Some people, such as myself, try to extend that exception to situations where total accuracy is simply preferred. (Join us! The Dark Side is strong, young Skywalker...) Unfortunately, I burned most of my style manuals a long time ago in a vain attempt to bury my past, so I can't give you exact page citations. I might not even remember how. >The phrase "rule of thumb" is derived from an old English law >which stated that you couldn't beat your wife with anything wider >than your thumb. It also refers to the newly-proposed system of government here in the US. Instead of using inherently defect-prone "voting machines" that result in messy, "dimpled" ballots, the new regime will require all voters to own web-cams, and send in at least 3 seconds of low- resolution streaming video of them holding their thumb up or down in response to their preferred candidate. All video-votes will be scanned by a central computer programmed to recognize hand signals with nearly 90% accuracy. John "you won't find any punctuation in here." Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:34:08 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: and is my ass visible fom space? On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Bayard wrote: > > > also, is the Great Wall visible from space or not? > > you kiddin'? they've got satellites that can almost read newspapers from > > space! > yes, and someday we'll all get our news this way! but no, mr. pathetic, i > meant with the naked eye (wise guy). No, it is my understand that a naked eye would explode in space and, hence, be unable to see anything. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:39:31 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: and is my ass visible fom space? when we last left our heroes, JH3 exclaimed: >Actually, most style guides *do* allow exceptions to the "inside >the quotes" rule for documents such as legal briefs and technical >documentation where total accuracy is required. Some people, >such as myself, try to extend that exception to situations where >total accuracy is simply preferred. (Join us! The Dark Side is >strong, young Skywalker...) i probably should continue this silliness, but i've always wondered if an ellipsis functions as a period. that is, should it be (Join us! The Dark Side is strong, young Skywalker...) or (Join us! The Dark Side is strong, young Skywalker....) >Instead of using inherently defect-prone "voting machines" >that result in messy, "dimpled" ballots, the new regime will require anyfeg named chad is automagically persona non gratis. dimpled and pregnant chads, in particular. woj n.p. http://wfmu.oven.com:8000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:33:52 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: myths n' legends Skimming Viv's reference, my law reference guides say pretty much the same thing. Blackstone's codification of the English common law in the 18th century stated the "rule of thumb" . I do not believe the words "rule of thumb" were actually used, but this codification stated that a husband could chastise a wife with "any reasonable instrament". if you give my some time I can pull up the actual citation ( my memeory is more general than specific). The states individually have written laws concerning what constitutes assalt and battery, and if corporal punishment is allowed on a wife. They often do reference Blackstone as their basis, but usually modify it. It was very common in the 19th century for a state to not bar assalt on a wife since the husband and wife were saw as one legal entity. A woman was not her own person. State by state citation would take too much time for me to pull up, but, I'll check Blackstone at school today. eleanore Bayard wrote: > again i ask with curiosity, what is your source? > > and no-one knows if the great wall of china is visible from space? > Trivial Pursuit says yes, but they've been wrong before... > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Eleanore Adams wrote: > > > Ken is correct - this is fact, not legend. > > > > eleanore > > > > Ken Ostrander wrote: > > > > > >> > At least Quail isn't enforcing the Rule of Thumb. > > > >> > > > >> That's because the "rule of thumb" is nothing but a myth or urban legend, > > > >> and the Quail is all about authenticity. > > > > > > > >not disputing you, but what is your source? > > > > > > The phrase "rule of thumb" is derived from an old English law which stated > > > that > > > you couldn't beat your wife with anything wider than your thumb. > > > > > > ken "you just had a near-life experience" the kenster > > > > > > np moby play: the b sides ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:13:56 -0800 (PST) From: Chadpuchin Subject: Re: and is my ass visible fom space? On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, drop the holupki wrote: > i probably should continue this silliness, but i've always wondered if an > ellipsis functions as a period. that is, should it be > > (Join us! The Dark Side is strong, young Skywalker...) > or > (Join us! The Dark Side is strong, young Skywalker....) Ellipses are used to signify missing words (much as apostrophes are used to signify missing letters). Three dots signify words missing within a sentence, four dots signify words missing spanning sentences. As I understand it, three dots are sufficient for the above application. Chad. - -- _________________________________________________ Chadpuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:29:56 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: America is the place!!!!!!! I don't care what the foreigners say, we still got it and they don't. (CNN) -- Under New Mexico law, if the candidates end up tied, the winner could be determined by having the two men sit for a hand of poker -- with the state going to the winner. New Mexico statute requires that in case of a tie, "the determination as to which of the candidates shall be declared to have been nominated or elected shall be decided by lot." In practice, the usual method for this rare event has been to play one hand of five-card poker. This was last done in December 1999, in a local judge's race. Republican Jim Blanq and Democrat Lena Milligan played one hand of poker in a courthouse with dozens of people watching, and Blanq won. http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/14/votes.elsewhere/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Griffith Davies Subject: re: underlight moonwater A long time ago, Ben wrote: >This will be the first Robyn album which I will own 2 >different copies of. The only Hitchcock CD I have two different copies of is (or is that are?) Black Snake Diamond Role. One copy has "The Man Who Invented Himself" with the horn section, the other - the rhino reissue - sans the horn section. griffith np - King Crimson "Heavy ConstruKction" ('Heroes' is killer) ===== - --------------------------------------------------------- Griffith Davies hbrtv219@yahoo.com Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:49:30 EST From: "brian nupp" Subject: Creatures of Light Right, well I just got done watching an exciting bid war on E-Bay. It was one of Robyn's. I'm sure some of you are familiar with this one, so maybe you can tell me what this is and where it came from. It was 7 inch split with RH on side and Tiny Tim on the other. RH songs: Creatures of light and As lemons drop (I thought it was chop, but I guess I'm wrong). I don't think I've heard Creatures of Light. Sounds like an Moss Elixir out take. Any way the bidding went from 13.50 to 36.00 in about the last half hour. Must be a rare one. Does anyone have MP3s of this song? I'd love to know the story behind it. The auction said it had no picture sleeve and it might have come from a magazine or something. Curiously Brian Nupp _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #331 *******************************