From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #329 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 14 2000 Volume 09 : Number 329 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 100% Barrett ["brian nupp" ] Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! [The Great Quail ] Re: Sculder and Mully [Eb ] about 35% robyn! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Sculder and Mully [drop the holupki ] more political drivel I should learn to ignore ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] false alarm [Bayard ] Re: false alarm [Dolph Chaney ] Hitchcock gig in Newcastle [drop the holupki ] Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! [steve ] for eb [Asshole Motherfucker ] Re: I know where the prawns are.... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: 100% Barrett [Terrence Marks ] Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... [Dolph Chaney ] RE: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... [GSS ] Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... [The Great Quail ] Re: I Thoth I Caught tha Purddy Bat ["Irish Airman" Subject: Re: 100% Barrett That does sound 100% like Barrett. I'd say it's him. >From: Terrence Marks >Reply-To: Terrence Marks >To: controlled by gamma-light >Subject: 100% Barrett >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:38:35 -0500 (EST) > >I found a new Syd Barrett song on napster. It's called Stanley the >Simpleton. If it isn't him, it's an amazing imitation. I've never seen >any previous reference to this song existing, though. > > >http://grove.ufl.edu/~normal/syd_barrett_-_stanley_the_simpleton.mp3 > >Terrence Marks >Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com >HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf >normal@grove.ufl.edu _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:29:15 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! Tom writes, >I've now got this unnerving image in my head of Quail as Frank Booth, >watching "Buffy" with the Nitrous Oxide mask on. Only when Willow comes on.... - --The Great "Mommy! Mommy!" Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:06:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Sculder and Mully Quail wrote: >Actually, I think the first two episodes of this season are very >promising! Zzzzzzzz. Pure cannibalization of the past. I keep expecting the opening credits to replace "THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE" with "THE SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED." ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:35:09 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: about 35% robyn! >When people here talk about wishing newly qualified doctors good luck in >getting "stinking rich" rather than wishing them luck in treating their >patients properly it makes my blood run cold. I wish them luck in trying to cope with 70 hour weeks while working as interns, and being regarded by the public as being 'on call' 24 hours a day after that. Most doctors slog their guts out and deserve higher pay because of it. As an exemplar comparison, though, note how few people wish new TV news anchors good luck, when they manage to get squillions per hour for remarkably little work. >I don't know every socio-political stance that Robyn takes, but I do know a >few...and, a question I've asked before but never got any answers - Why do >you like Robyn? well, bluntly, I like a good tune, and a reflective nature, and words that are deep enough to make me stop and think, yet elliptical enough to be open to interpretation. The more they can be interpreted by the listener, the more they act as a 'mirror on the soul' of both writer and hearer. It is also for this reason that sveeral of my favourite John Lennon songs can be found on the White Album - the level of ellipticality (ellipticism?) of songs like Cry Baby Cry and Happiness is a Warm Gun appeal in the same way as songs like Cynthia Mask. Although I know Eb doesn't approve, I also find the same thing occasionally in Steve Kilbey's lyrics for the Church. XTC's music does the same for me. It is interesting to note that all of these artists probably have mailing lists where correspondents ask "what does the writer mean by this lyric...?" some other things equal to the birth of a child in terms of life trauma: 1) death of a parent, spouse, or sibling 2) rape of self, partner, or offspring 3) major house fire, burglary or other serious loss of property 4) bankruptcy 5) serious illness or injury 6) injury - or even complete unscathed survival from - major traffic accident talking of major traffic accidents: >But the worst is the BABY STROLLER PEOPLE!!! Aaargh!! Just because >they have an SUV-sized baby carriage, they think they OWN the >SIDEWALK. It's like, Everyone outta my waay!!! Baaaaaaaaabeeeee >comin' through!! What-? You're an old lady with a walker? I don't >care! Baaaaabeeeeeee comin' through!! And then, Jesus, they strap >'em together, and they have those DOUBLE-WIDE baby carriages! I >swear, they're going to pass an ordinance for BIGGER SIDEWALKS in >Brooklyn Heights to accommodate all the au pairs and their goddamned >humongous baby carriages... aargh! ever noticed how the bumper sticker "baby on board" usually translates as "driver has impugnity from road rules"? James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:52:05 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: Sculder and Mully when we last left our heroes, The Great Quail exclaimed: >Actually, I think the first two episodes of this season are very >promising! they were alright, but (a) Eb's right that they're repeating themselves (if not overtly, surely covertly) and (b) the wordless, evocative vocalizations were teeeedious. >I hope the show continues in this direction -- Robert >Patrick is doing a fine job, though I keep expecting him to morph >into a T-2000 unit and spike Scully through a milk carton. the biggest problem i have with the episodes are that they don't flow very well. you get a couple eps that advance the overall story, then a bunch that don't. that herky-jerky sequence really bugs me. i'd much rather that every episode have at least some reference to the overall story. that's one of the things that made babylon 5 great and deep space 9 good. based on the previews for the next x-files episode, i don't expect this problem to go away. >*Trust me, anyone who has had to sit through an episode of "the >X-Files" with LJ would not blame me for this rule. Really. Last week, >she flung a baby at the screen. hah. sounds like the quail and i should trade mates for the purposes of tv-watching. notionally, i'm not allowed to talk during buffy or xena -- unless it's a good zinger which i know i can get away with. when we last left our heroes, Eb exclaimed: >I keep expecting the opening credits to replace "THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE" >with "THE SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED." ;) chris carter's missing out on serious commercial tie-ins there. i've been expecting to see "drop the chalupa!" or "the power of &". woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:09:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: more political drivel I should learn to ignore > From: GSS > > drew wrote: > > I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, but surely we've also > imprisoned > > innocent people and will do so again. Better get rid of prison too! > > That makes sense? The difference is absolute. Dead people can't appeal. Death row takes quite a long time. But my point is merely that there's more to it than just "we often reach a factually incorrect verdict." > So you are a death penalty supporting, Learn to read. > Gore ignorant, I must admit I didn't run a thorough genealogical research when I decided not to vote for him. You've got me there. > left winger. That's what they tell me. > From: Michael Wolfe > Subject: Blame Florida [...] For the longest time I thought Cartman's mom was saying "and that bitch I married too," but of course it was "and that bitch Anne Murray too." > From: Eb > Eb, wistfully remembering the days when "The X Files" was entertaining Yeah, no shit. > From: The Great Quail > Robert > Patrick is doing a fine job That I'll agree with, though. Drew, who will try to sit on his hands from now on ===== Andrew D. Simchik: drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:42:28 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: I did! I did! I did Tee a puddy-tat! Stupid me erased the Feg-Digest I just received so I can't respond to anything people have falsely accused me of! I am such a dope! I'm sure it was fairly interesting discussion... But, I did read a few things from a few days ago... But I still believe anyone who has 7 kids is asking for trouble. My mother in law had 7 kids and my wife grew up totally poor. I mean apples for Christmas and the electricity shut off on a regular basis. She had her children in wedlock, but who cares????? Basically, we see a lot of people having children that are beyond their own financial means. I'm not suggesting the state get involved or anything horrific like that. I maintain that people create their own problems and then expect other people to bail them out. << . if it were not for the support of the UAW, my family would have had an even harder struggle. >> For every positive Union story there is a negative one(maybe 2!). While I worked at Lockheed, helping to build weapons of mass destruction that help to defend our great nation, my very white friend was ALMOST FIRED FOR PICKING UP A TYPEWRITER AND MOVING IT!!!!!! That's a Union job, you know, and how dare my friend take a Union job. No, if you want the typewriter moved, you have to fill out a form, submit it, and in a few days, the typewriter will rightfully be moved by a Union employee. Good for the unions!!!!! << When people here talk about wishing newly qualified doctors good luck in > getting "stinking rich" >> Did you even read what I wrote???? Did you purposefully forget the part where I said "IF THAT IS WHAT HE CHOOSES". If you can't figure it out, what I meant is that if my friend wants to become rich as a reward for years and years of hard work and determination, then it is HIS RIGHT to do so. And not my place to judge his motivations. After all, I'm not the one who sacrificed for 12 years... And this "Born into this Born into that Crap" is soooooo boring. My mother didn't graduate from High School, but she recognized early on that she wouldn't be able to support a family of 3 on her own. She worked and worked and worked and makes big-ass bucks today. She grew up poor folks. She could have caved in, but she saw the path and walked it. And yes, education was DISCOURAGED in my household too. My Grandparents all came here from Portugal. Gramps was a Janitor. Dad painted cars on an Assemblyline till he got sick(probably from breathing too much toxic paint). I am the only one in my family to go to college. I was yelled at for studying with the lights on if there was sunlight outside. I was punished if I was caught reading with a light on instead of sitting next to a window. But I knew what was in my best interests, and I got the hell out of town and went away to school. Anyone can do it. Period. It's called the American Dream, and I have seen it work. Back to My Dr Friend: << And I hope when people knock on his door, he will give them a little. My husband and I, even though I am still in school and am in debt, still give to certain charities every year. >> You see, at least you have the OPTION of donating money to causes you believe in. Rather than taxing people and promoting government programs that you might not believe in. I might sound like I don't care about people, but I don't mean to project this. It makes me wanna puke just thinking about one penny of tax dollars going to someone who is in this country illegally. However, I have worked hard to help immigrants in their pursuit of citizenship. I have donated countless hours teaching english to people who cared enough to want to learn. Let me donate my time cause that's what I CHOOSE TO DO, but I would never advocate SPENDING YOUR dollars on things you don't believe in. People assume conservatives want to let people drown. Not true. I'll throw out a life preserver, but if you're too stupid to grab it, then you can sink... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:43:32 -0500 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! ( Re: Sculder and Mully) At 4:20 PM -0500 11/13/00, Ken Ostrander wrote: > >>Eb, wistfully remembering the days when "The X Files" was entertaining >> >>Not that I've EVER been a big X Files fan, but geez, that show is >>soooo fucking humorless! Does Scully EVER crack a smile? And the >>dialogue-! Oh man, what awful crap... Shame we have the Complete >>Silence During the X Files rule in this house*, otherwise I'd be >>laughing my ass off constantly! > >sounds like i didn't miss much last night. the show can be very funny. last >season, most of the episodes i saw bordered on self-parody. at least the >one-off ones. right now mulder is gone and there are lots of unhappy viewers >out there; so why shouldn't scully be humorless? Not a TV watcher but, in the strange coincidence department, I came home, put on "Songs in the Key of X" (bought it for the Nick Cave song "Red Right Hand") and began to read my mail. - -- "Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself." **************************************************************************** C. J. Galbraith Ketone Press meketone@ix.netcom.com www.bogdescu.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:30:51 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: name this tune from my friend Pete: "it is a 70's song and all i know are part of the chorus- which is: sunshine go away today, I don't feel much like singing it is a mellow tune with just an acoustic guitar i think- sounds cat stevenish- it is very well known but i just can't place it..." Pete thanks you in advance. =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:34:50 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: false alarm Jonathan Edwards - Sunshine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:42:31 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: false alarm At 08:34 PM 11/13/00 -0500, Bayard wrote: >Jonathan Edwards - Sunshine right. it was his followup to that AM classic, "Sinners In The Hands Of An Angry God." dolph now watching: Theremin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:47:15 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Hitchcock gig in Newcastle >From: "Dave Brazier" >To: >Subject: Hitchcock gig in Newcastle >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:30:35 -0000 > >Hi, > Just thought i would point out the details of the Robyn gig on the 22nd >November > >The Venue is called "THE CLUNY", 36 Lime Street, Byker, telephone number: >0191 230 4475. > >Hope this helps > >Dave Brazier >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 04/10/00 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:09:04 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! lj lindhurst: >Shame we have the Complete Silence During the X Files >rule in this house*, otherwise I'd be laughing my ass off constantly! At least Quail isn't enforcing the Rule of Thumb. - - Steve __________ I9d sit down and meditate but my ass is on fire. - Bill Nelson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:09:04 -0800 From: Asshole Motherfucker Subject: for eb When asked to stretch his imagination for us and relate his idea of the perfect show, Robyn Hitchcock had this response. "I think I would put the audience someplace different -- like somehow manage to transport five hundred people to treetops somewhere, to a forest, and they would just hang there from harnesses and listen. Or you hire or build a zeppelin -- make sure it's flame-proof gas and that they take out a lot of insurance -- and then get a sixty-foot gondola underneath with 1930s wicker chairs, and do a concert with the gondola and the zeppelin flying over The Atlantic. That kind of thing. Rather than have special effects, just provide people with shows in different locations. It would be great to get a grant to do that. Another one would be underwater -- to get a glass train built that would run under the English Channel. Or maybe, run somewhere in the Caribbean, not too far below the surface, like EPCOT Center or something. You know, there are aquariums where you can walk, and there are fish passing overhead. Something that's in a glass tunnel, that's sea- based, so that people can see these creatures swirling around while I'm singing." robyn h.; november, 1999 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:54:56 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: I know where the prawns are.... Tony.Blackman@sita.int wrote: > > "Three cute prawns suntanning on the rice" that might be a translation; ISTR a dish called something like "Lounging Prawns" in the brief time I lived in southern Japan. It's not as strange as "Mother & Son" chicken; a chicken and rice dish with an egg mixed in. Stewart (trying hard not to remember how to make th Chinese dish "Gaping Mouth Fish" ) PS: I saw a kingfisher today! Halcyon days indeed!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:07:42 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! lj lindhurst wrote: > > But the worst is the BABY STROLLER PEOPLE!!! Aaargh!! tell me, do they do that stopping-traffic-with-a-stroller thing in your part of the world, or is it just a Glasgow thing? It work like this: you're proceeding along the carriageway in an orderly fashion, when suddenly a stroller appears in your path. You better bloody stop to let 'em cross, else you'll get known in the tabloid press as the Baby Killer, and get hounded from your home. Frankly, I think this is a worrying genetic tendency, and it's our responsibility as right-thinking folk to stamp it out. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 04:40:33 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: I tot we had seen the last of him... Blatzman wrote >My friend is finally a doctor. After years and years and years of studying. >He will eventually make a lot of money, and bitter people will always point >to how easy doctors have it, how rich they are how white and Protestant they >are(which he is not). He has struggled and sacrificed for more years than >anyone I know. And when he is filthy stinking rich, if that is what he >chooses to be, then good for him. I opined >When people here talk about wishing newly qualified doctors good luck in >getting "stinking rich" rather than wishing them luck in treating their >patients properly it makes my blood run cold. Blatzman missed the point thus << When people here talk about wishing newly qualified doctors good luck in > getting "stinking rich" >> >Did you even read what I wrote???? Did you purposefully forget the part >where I said "IF THAT IS WHAT HE CHOOSES". If you can't figure it out, what >I meant is that if my friend wants to become rich as a reward for years and >years of hard work and determination, then it is HIS RIGHT to do so. GSS added >Should we have a moral litmus for all >those hoping to become a doctor of medicine? Well actually there is one, it's called the Hippocratic Oath. And, to put it as uncontroversially as I can, I think a lot more doctors (and their supporters :-)) should take notice of it. The last word to Blatzman (God, please let it be Blatzman's last word...) >not >my place to judge his motivations. After all, I'm not the one who sacrificed >for 12 years... Of course if you did a little less judging in general your posts would be about eight words long... jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:56:21 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, steve wrote: > lj lindhurst: > >Shame we have the Complete Silence During the X Files > >rule in this house*, otherwise I'd be laughing my ass off constantly! > > At least Quail isn't enforcing the Rule of Thumb. That's because the "rule of thumb" is nothing but a myth or urban legend, and the Quail is all about authenticity. What am I doing online this early in the morning? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:47:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: 100% Barrett On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Terrence Marks wrote: > I found a new Syd Barrett song on napster. It's called Stanley the > Simpleton. If it isn't him, it's an amazing imitation. I've never seen > any previous reference to this song existing, though. Very interesting. I wonder if it might be Kevin Ayers, who did a Syd tribute song "Oh! wot a dream" on Bananamour. I don't think it is either Syd or Robyn, though. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:13:06 -0500 (EST) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: 100% Barrett On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Terrence Marks wrote: > > I found a new Syd Barrett song on napster. It's called Stanley the > > Simpleton. If it isn't him, it's an amazing imitation. I've never seen > > any previous reference to this song existing, though. > > Very interesting. I wonder if it might be Kevin Ayers, who did a Syd > tribute song "Oh! wot a dream" on Bananamour. > > I don't think it is either Syd or Robyn, though. I don't think it sounds at all like Robyn. Robyn has a much different voice than Syd. But if you listen to the unechoed right track, it sounds less like Syd, especially at the very start of the third verse. Whoever did the overdubs is almost definitely not Syd. Vocal overdubs aren't featured on too many Barrett songs as far as I remember (except the Peel Sessions...). Might very well be Ayers. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:16:00 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... At 04:40 AM 11/14/00 -0500, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: >The last word to Blatzman (God, please let it be Blatzman's last word...) UNCALLED FOR. If we are about anything here, we are about speaking our true minds. That's all Dave or you or anybody has done. Don't you dare try to make somebody shut up. We are not about shutting up. dolph who, by the way, thinks Geddy Lee's appearance on the McKenzie Bros.' "Take Off" should be an eternal pardon to Rush for all charges of pretentiousness and lack of humor, but that's another point. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:22:23 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! Is that Frank Booth in his "Well Dressed Man" guise? Michael - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [mailto:tclark@reardensteel.com] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 5:13 PM To: lj lindhurst; Eleven Dollar Sandwich Subject: Re: I Tot I Taw A Puddy Tat! > *TGQ also enforces the Complete Silence Rule during "Buffy," "Angel," > and select episodes of "Dawson's Creek". I've now got this unnerving image in my head of Quail as Frank Booth, watching "Buffy" with the Nitrous Oxide mask on. - -t "Don't you fucking look at me!!" c ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:37:21 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: more political drivel I should learn to ignore so why don't you? On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > From: GSS > > > > drew wrote: > > > I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, but surely we've also > > imprisoned > > > innocent people and will do so again. Better get rid of prison too! > > > > That makes sense? The difference is absolute. Dead people can't appeal. > > Death row takes quite a long time. But my point is merely that > there's more to it than just "we often reach a factually incorrect > verdict." But that is a FACT. We do OFTEN reach a factually incorrect verdict, therefore we do OFTEN put innocent people on death row. And we have OFTEN executed innocent people. Your arguement makes no sense. > > So you are a death penalty supporting, > > Learn to read. Please let me know how I could have misread or not read: 'i'm not a big fan of the death penalty' and interpreted it any other way? I don't see anyone interpreting that as 'I, Andrew am completely opposed to the death penalty.' If you do not support the death penalty why can't you just say it. gss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:46:09 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: myths n' legends > > At least Quail isn't enforcing the Rule of Thumb. > > That's because the "rule of thumb" is nothing but a myth or urban legend, > and the Quail is all about authenticity. not disputing you, but what is your source? also, is the Great Wall visible from space or not? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:47:43 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... > >Should we have a moral litmus for all > >those hoping to become a doctor of medicine? > > Well actually there is one, it's called the Hippocratic Oath. And, to put > it as uncontroversially as I can, I think a lot more doctors (and their > supporters :-)) should take notice of it. It is an oath, not a test. gss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:47:53 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... Dolphs, >UNCALLED FOR. > >If we are about anything here, we are about speaking our true minds. >That's all Dave or you or anybody has done. Don't you dare try to >make somebody shut up. We are not about shutting up. I am with Dolph here. Even though I don't agree with the Blatz, I have also found the tone of jmbc's recent posts to be unnecessarily insulting. My God, people, can't you see, Florida is tearing us all apart! And have you noticed that Mike Runion has been all-too SILENT? What is going on? What evil deed is Mr. Runion cooking up? Re-dolphs, >who, by the way, thinks Geddy Lee's appearance on the McKenzie >Bros.' "Take Off" should be an eternal pardon to Rush for all >charges of pretentiousness and lack of humor, but that's another >point. I have always though that Rush has a pretty good sense of humor -- if you read their liner notes, tour programs (Ah! Remember *those*???) and interviews, they come across as having a great sense of humor. Even their music -- which is generally pretty serious, I will admit - -- is peppered with little in-jokes, cartoon themes, and occasional tongue-in-cheek touches. - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:43:59 -0500 From: drop the holupki Subject: Re: I tot we had seen the last of him... when we last left our heroes, The Great Quail exclaimed: >My God, people, can't you see, Florida is tearing us all apart! And >have you noticed that Mike Runion has been all-too SILENT? What is >going on? What evil deed is Mr. Runion cooking up? fighting for a hand recount in brevard county (not be confused with broward county), no doubt. woj n.p. june panic (just downloaded a billion secretly canadian mp3s off insound.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:50:12 EST From: "Irish Airman" Subject: Re: I Thoth I Caught tha Purddy Bat 1)--Agree with whoever said Robyn's opinions on anything but his work may be interesting, but no more important than anyone else's. I'd have a hard time stretching myself into a Hitchcock clone(new hair color, new sex, growth hormone), nor do I think the world needs such beasts. 2)GSS. Years ago, when I was LordK, you sent me a wonderful Townsend/Who tape, in return for which I promised you some tarts. And lost your address, and went off list and well--- . I actually made a tape at the time--entitled 27 Tarts--and if you would resend me your address, it just might make its way to you before Christmas. Still listen to the Townsend tape by the way; Shout is tremendous. So please let me belatedly repay your generosity. My kid's older now and Im abit more organized;-). 3) TRex. Sigh. For once Ill hold myself back from the nostalgia train, but just for the record--sigh. 4) Politics. Everyone deserves unconditional love. In famillies, in communities, in societies. So says mercy. Justice says that as humans we need to earn what we get--otherwise it merely weakens us. It is by willing, working, and struggling that we make ourselves and our world. To take that away from someone is unjust. To take love away from someone is unmerciful. To be both just and merciful is the great conundrum. Spencer, in the Fairy Queen, symbolizes it as the conjunction of Osirus and Isis. Working with an often disadvantaged public I am continually amazed by just what belonging to the disadvantaged underclass can mean. It can mean the inability to hold a conversation with someone not of the underclass. An inability to look people in the eye and speak clearly and concisely. It can mean being completely overwhelmed by the simple tasks of life, let alone all the truely complicated ones which are now part and parcel of modern existance. It can mean such a pervading passivity of self that there is almost no ability to take advantage of the programs which could lead to self-improvement. To hand such people a pittance to eek out a marginal existance is neither just nor merciful; to give them the support to remake themselves daunting, and to help the insane and minimally retarded, who are just plain incapable of many basic tasks--well, onerous and thankless. It is a mark on our culture that we choose to just flush out such people or buy them off with as little as possible. It is also a mark on our culture that we encourage people to see themeselves as victims who are owed unearned rewards. I am all for programs which support the working poor, and for programs to develope work skills in those who can acquire such. I am also for supporting with dignity those who are incapable of supporting themselves; we are all children of God or Goddess or the Absolute or the Universe or whatever(stripped of our clothes and all the things we own.) we are all connected. But how to get the balance right? How to not empower burocracy or self-congradulating "do-gooderism"(as harmful to the do-gooder as the done to)? How to keep both heart and mind? How, in short to solve the whole problem of human suffering. Hahhhhhhahhhhhhhahhhhh! K, who has -not- it seems, grown back her virginity after all. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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