From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #313 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 4 2000 Volume 09 : Number 313 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Canadian Politics (was AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!) [Matt Yudt ] RE: napster r.i.p. ["Thomas, Ferris" ] unsubscribe [Eb ] Vote Quimby! ["Thomas, Ferris" ] RE: musical technical question: 13th floor wobbly thing ["SIMPSON,HAMISH ] reap [Eb ] Critical Me [Viv Lyon ] Re: Canadian Politics (was AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!) [Michael R Godwin ] RE: musical technical question: 13th floor wobbly thing ["Asa Land" ] Brett Milano review 10/22 show [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] [mrs_munki] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Nov 00 21:15:09 PST From: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: Canadian Politics (was AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!) > 2. Will the liberals gain seats in Quebec? So here is a stupid question. In Europe, I understand that 'liberal' means pretty much what we would call 'libertarian' here in the USA - at least more conservative and in contrast with socialist and labor parties. Is this true of Canadian politics? If so, I would guess Quebec liberals favor independence. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:29:51 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: Canadian Politics (was AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!) On 2 Nov 2000, Matt Yudt wrote: > > > 2. Will the liberals gain seats in Quebec? > > So here is a stupid question. In Europe, I understand that 'liberal' means > pretty much what we would call 'libertarian' here in the USA - at least more > conservative and in contrast with socialist and labor parties. Is this true > of Canadian politics? If so, I would guess Quebec liberals favor > independence. Sorry i should have been more clear i meant the Liberal Party which is a left of center party, that has been in Power since 1993 and is the only true national party. Most americans would consider the liberals to be socialists. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Everybody needs your meat, But no one meets your needs" -Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 00:36:02 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: small bites >From: Terrence Marks > >On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > > If you favor Bush, why not admit it? It would be more respectable >> than this rationale. > >Because I don't think "respectable" and "favor Bush" overlap much on this >list. Dude, so what? Nobody respects anyone in this election. I might not agree with your choice, I might not consider the choice itself "respectable," but I could respect your honest expression of it. If that makes any sense. But that's your call. My dad makes a policy of not telling anyone, usually including his family, who he votes for. I used to find that annoying and slightly suspicious but I'm starting to understand why he does it. >From: Eb > >>"Forgettable bordering on >>dispiriting" applies a lot more to this material, from my point of view. >> >>What do you think? > >I think it sounds like my first instincts based on her Leno performance >were on the money. For what it's worth, it's growing on me a little now that I'm over the initial disappointment. In terms of underwhelming Y2K albums from previously overwhelming acts, I would file it between _Bloodflowers_ and _Wasp Star_. The move toward more "meaningful" (if not especially specific and striking) lyrics from _Is This Desire?_'s parade of gloomy waifs is a somewhat positive development. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen.com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:52:28 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: napster r.i.p. It's annoying that they sold out. "...The label has handed the service...a badly needed infusion of cash [and] the chance to earn its very first dollar of revenue." It all comes down to that filthy money. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:04:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: unsubscribe That word which some of you have longed to hear.... ;) I'm unsubscribing, until I get my new Earthlink crap straightened out. I thought I could get "gondola@earthlink.net," but unfortunately, "gondola" is in the limbo zone. Unused, but too recently vacated. It's not claimable until it's been dead for a year. Okey dokey. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:01:32 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Vote Quimby! http://www.thesimpsons.com/quimby2000/intro.htm ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." -PJ O'Rourke ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:27:51 +0100 From: "SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Scotland,ex1)" Subject: RE: musical technical question: 13th floor wobbly thing Stu sez-> > Anyone know what the name of the instrument is that gave the Elevators > their distinctive sound? The noise sucks a big one! For me it spoils most of their stuff. I did once see The Fuzztones do a version of an Elevators song from the first album (can't remember which) and the keyboard player did the noise vocally with no props. It sounded just as good, i.e. shit! BTW, before they lost the plot and traded psychedelia for dance, the Shamen did a blinding version of "Fire Engine". (H) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:39:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap For Immediate Release: Ben Folds Five Announces Splits; New Projects Forthcoming After six great years as a band, touring and making records, Ben Folds Five is calling it quits. Alan Wolmark, the band's manager, says that the split is amicable and that the decision was made because all three members felt the band had run its musical course and wanted to pursue other musical interests. As Ben Folds confirms "The band is splitting on good terms. We are very proud of our three albums, our little hit and our audience. Now it is time to bow out with dignity rather than to make that final 'cash-in' record and tour which, of course, is very tempting." Ben Folds has written, recorded and produced the song, "Lonely Christmas Eve," for the film "How The Grinch Stole Christmas," opening later this month and for the soundtrack CD out next week. In addition, "Wandering", another new song written, recorded and produced by Ben Folds, will be in the forthcoming independent film "100 Girls." Folds, who lives in Australia with his wife and twins, is currently in the studio recording a new album with producer Ben Grosse for release on Epic Records in the spring. Darren Jessee is assembling a band and has been playing his own new material on the New York club circuit for the past year. Robert Sledge is currently putting together a new group and producing bands in his Chapel Hill, North Carolina studio. Sledge has also been touring with ex-Squirrel Nut Zippers Tom Maxwell and his band The Minor Drag. Ben Folds Five and their crew would like to thank all their loyal fans who have made them feel comfortable and welcome throughout the world where they have been fortunate enough to visit and entertain. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 08:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Critical Me A friend of mine informed me that I'm on the Portland Critical Mass site. Go here: http://www.subluna.com/CriticalMass/rides/sept00.html I am the wan, nerdy-looking chick front and center. The sign on my bike, in case you can't read it, says "Ralph's my HERO!!!" Too bad the Halloween Ride pictures (/rides/oct00.html) don't include better pictures of us all dressed up. Both these rides were "Rides for Democracy," jointly raising awareness of the cycling community and whatever other activist causes they are part of. There was a vampiric Uncle Sam there, and many angels of death, a couple Gore's and Bush's (appropriately detourned), and so forth and so on. I was a corporate pirate (the corporate part was only in my mind, I really just looked like a half-assed pirate). In the bottom picture on the Halloween page, you can see a guy with a sign. That's Tre Arrow, locally famous for living on the ledge of a downtown building for 15 days to protest logging at Eagle Creek, and more importantly, for how he dealt with, um, evacuation issues. He's running for Congress. Not State Congress. Congress. God bless him. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 17:17:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Canadian Politics (was AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!) On 2 Nov 2000, Matt Yudt wrote: > In Europe, I understand that 'liberal' means pretty much what we would > call 'libertarian' here in the USA - at least more conservative and in > contrast with socialist and labor parties. Speaking as a Lib Dem (oops! what a giveaway!) I would say that the UK Liberal Democratic party's programme is to the _left_ of the current "New Labour" government: we support higher income taxes, more public spending, a government commission into decriminalising soft drugs, better public libraries, more pedestrian-friendly traffic policies etc. etc. - see http://www.libdems.org.uk/ But we certainly aren't 'Libertarian' - in the UK that generally means far right "sod everybody but me and my rich mates" policies. Flak welcomed! - - Mike Godwin PS Of course I'm not claiming that New Labour has anything at all to do with socialism. I think Blair is further right than Major. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 13:08:04 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Ben Folds Fold Mr Folds recently played on a new album with old Sun rockabillies Sonny Burgess and Billy Lee Riley. Strange, or is there some connection I don't know about? As to Mike Godwin's political comments. Yup, the Lib Dems are the British equivalent of Nader. Good guys, but absolutely no hope of forming a government... Last election was the first in nigh on twenty years that I didn't feel able to canvass for ('New') Labour. Fuck Blair... jmbc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:24:02 EST From: "Asa Land" Subject: RE: musical technical question: 13th floor wobbly thing "Just give me jug band music..." Dont remember the other lyrics, but thats from a lovely old Loovin Spoonful recording(sigh)(double sigh)(loved those guys--sometimes I almost think the main reason I listen to JWH is just cause he has that mellow, resonant Sebastian tone down so right(all right, he writes lyrics good too.)) Anyway, I think Sebastian was in one of the jug-bands. For the like of me, can't remember which one(they did all sorta blend together.) K _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the new pj harvey "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > What do you think? been too busy listening to the brilliant richard pryor boxset i bought at the same time...... motherfucker. ===== "The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything, except what is worth knowing. Journalists, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands." -- Oscar Wilde __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 13:42:57 -0500 From: mrs_munki (by way of drop the holupki ) Subject: Brett Milano review 10/22 show [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] This is from the Boston Phoenix. Hitchcock & Phillips: Joined at the Hip If Robyn Hitchcock and Grant Lee Phillips had done nothing on stage but make fun of David Bowie, that alone would have been enough to make their collaborative tour worthwhile. As it was, they made fun of Bowie only during their encore at the Middle East Sunday night, but it was priceless: they began a medley with his "Sound & Vision," then segued into a bunch of ridiculous '70s hits with the same chords -- "Kung Fu Fighting," "When You're in Love with a Beautiful Woman," "Rock Your Baby"-- and sang them all as the wasted, intense Bowie of the Low era would have. It was the kind of joke that only performers with an abiding love for rock's back pages could bring off. Although they were Warner Bros. labelmates for years, the pair haven't toured together before. Hitchcock said backstage that they were looking to recapture the informal atmosphere of the late-night pop hootenannies at the Los Angeles club Largo. In fact, their set was a good deal more polished. The two songwriters alternated tunes through the set, but they always added something -- whether a guitar part, a harmony, or just friendly support -- to each other's numbers. And the best moments came when their voices met in Everly Brothers-style harmony -- a connection made explicit when they did the Everlys oldie "All I Have To Do Is Dream." The set wasn't quite the career retrospective one might have hoped for. Phillips did include the radio hits "Fuzzy" and "Mighty Joe Moon," and Hitchcock dug back to the early '80s for the haunting "Flavor of Night," but both drew largely from the Internet-only albums they've released since leaving Warners. How well they get on was evident throughout the show. Hitchcock even sang "Mr. Phillips and I, we're joined at the hip" in a song made up on the spot. Whether by design or not, they wound up choosing songs that complemented each other: Hitchcock namechecked Gene Hackman in one song and Phillips did the same for Clint Eastwood in another. The pair squared off on wide-eyed love songs (Phillips's "Heavenly," Hitchcock's "I Feel Beautiful") and dark and mysterious songs (Phillips's "St. Expedite," Hitchcock's "Dark Princess"). "Honey don't think, you're liable to figure me out" is the kind of chorus that you'd expect either might come up with, though Phillips was the one who did. Always a master of verbal riffing, Hitchcock was in prime form. Early in the show he had a long dialogue with a wax Halloween pumpkin while Phillips looked on in amazement. And it's a short jump from talking to pumpkins to covering "I Am the Walrus," the last of the evening's borrowed tunes. The Beatles song was done absolutely faithfully -- to the point where Hitchcock recited the King Lear excerpt that plays over the Beatles' fadeout -- and unlike the Bowie bit, it wasn't really played for laughs. Instead it was evidence of an abstract pop tradition that both men are proudly carrying on. - -- Brett Milano (And of course, Robyn always refers to Mr. Milano as "Mr. Boston" for good reason...) Kelly sittingstill@hotmail.com except here... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #313 *******************************