From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #309 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 30 2000 Volume 09 : Number 309 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Baritone guitars ["Noe Shalev" ] Re: Baritone guitars [Viv Lyon ] re: chromosomal mutation [Eb ] Re: Questioning Nader's Money, a new gameshow on Comedy Central [steve ] re: chromosomal mutation [Michael R Godwin ] re: chromosomal mutation [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Baritone guitars [Dolph Chaney ] Philip Pullman [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Baritone guitars ["brian nupp" ] re: chromosomal mutation [lj lindhurst ] Good bad comedies( a goof easy on the geek) ["Asa Land" ] The Band Faust [dr john halewood ] The Band Faust [dr john halewood ] Re: chromosomally mutated po-mo-looking guitars ["JH3" ] Re: It had to happen [Tom Clark ] Re: It had to happen [Christopher Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:54:51 +0200 From: "Noe Shalev" Subject: Re: Baritone guitars > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Terrence Marks wrote: > > > While perusing online music catalogs last night, I thought to myself, > > "Egad! I must get a Danelectro baritone guitar!" > > > > Can the local gear experts here tell me why more people don't use these > > and who does? I know I'm infatuated with Danelectro equipment and not > > thinking straight... If it's for any interest I built a sort of Bariton Bass Guitar. it's a six strings bass in which the lower (tune wise) 4 strings are just like any other 4 string bass and another two which are like in guitar only two octaves lower, I.e. the higher E is like guitars lower E. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:14:53 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Baritone guitars On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Terrence Marks wrote: > While perusing online music catalogs last night, I thought to myself, > "Egad! I must get a Danelectro baritone guitar!" > > Can the local gear experts here tell me why more people don't use these > and who does? I know I'm infatuated with Danelectro equipment and not > thinking straight... Weird. Your high-school friend Jeannine Haynes (I ran in to her last night at a party) wants to loan me her pink Danelectro long horn bass so I can learn to play. Floridians and Danelectros. I'll reiterate....weird. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:03:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: chromosomal mutation >What was that Sellars film where he is a musician and the two girls >follow him around? There much more but I can't remember it (haven't >seen it since I was a kid). The World of Henry Orient maybe? That >title sticks in my head. Ahhh...*wonderful* film. One of the most amazing things about Sellers is that he could play the straight man *or* the clown, and be equally funny. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:18:58 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Questioning Nader's Money, a new gameshow on Comedy Central mojo: >and while I'm at it, what do y'all find so interesting/worthwhile >about reading Salon, anyway? I think the reportage is so >look-mom-no-hands sloppy and narcissistic, like most web "journalism." Do you have some good sites for us? - - Steve "I hear this Republican message that we're rich as hell and we're not going to take it any more. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm paying taxes at a lower rate than my secretary ... and frankly I think that's crazy." - Warren Buffett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:40:12 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Nader/Cellphone/Hawwweeeee the ludddz! James Dignan wrote: > > Jimmy Nail is incomprehensible > to most people in England when he gets his Geordie in full flow. having just seen Billy Elliot (and liked it far more than I expected -- it's got a grim edge to it) I found the Durham accents difficult. Gary Lewis (My Name is Joe, Orphans, many other Scottish things) was a star, the model of Kierkegaardian despair. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:51:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Baritone guitars There used to be a Fender 6-string bass, which IIRC was tuned 1 octave lower than a guitar, so I suppose it should have been described as a baritone guitar. There is a pic of a young Rick Danko playing one at http://theband.hiof.no/articles/fender_bass_vi.html - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:28:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: re: chromosomal mutation On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Dolph Chaney wrote: > And I have to say that Sellers' performance of "Cigar-eets and Whiskey and > Wild, Wild Women" on The Muppet Show remains a particularly fixed milestone > in my life. Which should explain a lot. What date was that, please? I have a feeling that he had died before I saw it. Really upsetting. - - Mike Godwin n.p. "Peter Sellers sings George Gershwin" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 06:54:24 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: re: chromosomal mutation At 12:28 PM 10/30/00 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: >What date was that, please? I have a feeling that he had died before I saw >it. Really upsetting. from http://vr.ncsa.uiuc.edu/BS/Muppets//muppography.html, I found that it was 1977, 2nd season. Specific date, I haven't yet located. dolph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 06:57:19 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Baritone guitars At 11:51 AM 10/30/00 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: >There used to be a Fender 6-string bass, which IIRC was tuned 1 octave >lower than a guitar... Two other bands I can think of who loved the ol' Fender Bass VI are The Beatles and The Cure -- Robert Smith writes a large chunk of their songs on one. As for the Danelectro baritone guitar, it seems to crop up on a lot of Daniel Lanois / Malcolm Burn productions, the most recent of which that I've seen being Emmylou Harris's RED DIRT GIRL. dolph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:01:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Philip Pullman Big news, kids! The long-awaited third volume of the Philip Pullman trilogy is about to be issued in the UK. Title: The Amber Spyglass. I gather that the series has been condemned by the Catholic Herald, so buy now before the arrival of the Spanish Inquisition! - - Mike "Torquemada" Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:17:09 EST From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: Baritone guitars I bought one of their guitars last May. It sounds great (and looks great too), but needs tuning about everytime I pick it up. Brian Nupp >From: Terrence Marks >Reply-To: Terrence Marks >To: The Operation Ivy List >Subject: Re: Baritone guitars >Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 12:56:42 -0500 (EST) > >On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Terrence Marks wrote: > > > While perusing online music catalogs last night, I thought to myself, > > "Egad! I must get a Danelectro baritone guitar!" > > > > Can the local gear experts here tell me why more people don't use these > > and who does? I know I'm infatuated with Danelectro equipment and not > > thinking straight... > >http://www.danelectro.com/Baritone.htm if you're interested > >Terrence Marks >Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com >HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf >normal@grove.ufl.edu > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:17:30 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: re: chromosomal mutation How could you guys fail to mention "I Love You Alice B. Toklas"??? That movie was the blueprint for my LIFE!!! lj, still recovering from our screening of "Performance" the other night - -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com http://www.w-rabbit.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Hey Mikey, whatever happened to the fucking Duke of Earl?" --Randy Newman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:19:21 EST From: "Asa Land" Subject: Good bad comedies( a goof easy on the geek) For the record, in my unhippest, geekiest, goofiest moments- I love bad comedy. I love Sellers going broad and self-parodying. I love Inspector - -howthehelldoyouspellhisname- Clouseau. I love his Frananglais and his non-subtle clumsyness and his non-nuanced cringe-inducing complete lack of, no, dare I say it, genuis for lack of self-observational, self-evaluating skills. I love the World of Henry Orient which wonderfully captures a moment of New York time( although Im sure dysfunctional rich kids -still- tramp around in the snow in Central Park on Christmass Day in their mom's cast-off mink.) I loved the Magic Christian and I still want it so Id better go out and get it to see if its still here before it goes fast. And Being There is there, pure and simple. Now, take all this with a grain, Im also reduced to stomach -aching laughter by the the whole Weekend at Bernies thing. Its just too easy to be anti-popular culture cross the board. Think of how people talked about the talkies or early rock n roll once upon a time. Just cause Fgz are capable of appreciating a guy who can play guitar -and- have a brain in his head, and write interesting challanging lyrics dosnt mean we have to turn our backs on the simple pleasures of life. Like ice-cream(they got my vote) ponies(my daughter's vote as well- if they lower the voting age to 10) and late Peter Sellers movies. And dont forget--Whats New Pussycat also has Peter O'Toole, who could be damn funny(when he choose.) K _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:00:34 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: It had to happen You've all heard it -- people at concerts yelling out "Freebird" as an ironically inappropriate song request. Well, at the Moby show last night, people yelled out "Play 'Freebird'!" So he did. It was amusing. (He also, in response to a more serious request, played Mission of Burma's "That's When I Reach for My Revolver.") - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:52:25 -0000 From: dr john halewood Subject: The Band Faust (about as near to an RH connection as I could get). How's about this for a Halloween treat? Faust (live) doing the soundtrack to a screening of the original 'Nosferatu'. It's on at Leeds Irish Centre if anyone is interested and on the right contintent at the time. john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:52:25 -0000 From: dr john halewood Subject: The Band Faust (about as near to an RH connection as I could get). How's about this for a Halloween treat? Faust (live) doing the soundtrack to a screening of the original 'Nosferatu'. It's on at Leeds Irish Centre if anyone is interested and on the right contintent at the time. john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 11:18:15 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: chromosomally mutated po-mo-looking guitars >PS And what's the one where he plays a Welsh librarian, >based on a Kingsley Amis novel? "Only Two Can Play"? >Can the local gear experts here tell me why more people don't >use these and who does? I know I'm infatuated with Danelectro >equipment and not thinking straight... Unless I'm seriously mistaken, the guitars only started appearing (or, depending on your perspective, reappearing) a couple of years ago. They *say* they've been around since 1947, but as I recall the company was almost completely moribund for most of the 70's and 80's. Finally in the 90's somebody got the bright idea of selling effects pedals that looked exactly like the original fuzzboxes, etc., that they built in the 50's & 60's, and the whole thing just just took off from there. You probably know all of this already, though. Btw, Electro-Harmonix is making a comeback as well, apparently. But I don't think there's any relationship between the two. Capuchin wrote as follows: >How high does the bar have to be before the press stops smearing? Whoa! There's actually a *bar*? And finally, Eb writes: >That's probably why you ranted and ranted about "Pi," purely on the >grounds that the story didn't make enough scientific sense. Whose >values are really warped, here? Personally, I think you have to make an exception for "Pi," which really was a gawdawful piece of pretentious Sundance tripe. What a load o' HOOEY that was! I mean *really* - all that idiotic, lame-ass stuff about the Name of God and how it's hidden within some ludicrous 215-digit number and if you discover what it is and say it backwards, the apocalypse will come and the universe will end and creation itself will be undone, I mean, what a steaming pile of horse excrement! After all, I've met God (who hasn't?), and his name OBVIOUSLY isn't some hidden code in a big number, it's just "Mourb Kih-Reh," and if you say it backwards (I'll just try it now, shall I?) you get ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:53:12 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: It had to happen on 10/30/00 10:00 AM, Christopher Gross at chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote: > You've all heard it -- people at concerts yelling out "Freebird" as an > ironically inappropriate song request. Well, at the Moby show last night, > people yelled out "Play 'Freebird'!" So he did. It was amusing. (He > also, in response to a more serious request, played Mission of Burma's > "That's When I Reach for My Revolver.") Didn't he release this as a single a few years ago? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:41:20 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: It had to happen On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Tom Clark wrote: > > You've all heard it -- people at concerts yelling out "Freebird" as an > > ironically inappropriate song request. Well, at the Moby show last night, > > people yelled out "Play 'Freebird'!" So he did. It was amusing. (He > > also, in response to a more serious request, played Mission of Burma's > > "That's When I Reach for My Revolver.") > > Didn't he release this as a single a few years ago? Er, which one? "Freebird"? Could be. Re: "That's When I Reach for My Revolver," Moby said he only played it in Boston and DC. DC gets the privilege, he said, because a local radio station was the only station outside of Boston that gave the song any aiplay when it first came out. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #309 *******************************