From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #306 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 27 2000 Volume 09 : Number 306 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: salt-water and urine [Viv Lyon ] "me and mr. kennedy" lyrics [drop the holupki ] Re: we're oblivious [The Great Quail ] Re: "me and mr. kennedy" lyrics [The Great Quail ] re: chromosomal mutation [Eb ] Re: we're oblivious to salt peter and urine [GSS ] Re: we're oblivious [Christopher Gross ] re: chromosomal mutation [Christopher Gross ] Oh. My. God. ["Asa Land" ] Re: oh. my. God. [JH3 ] attack of the ravening persons [Viv Lyon ] Re: oh. my. God. [Eb ] Nader/Cellphone/Hawwweeeee the ludddz! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dign] Re: we're oblivious [Ken Ostrander ] re: chromosomal mutation [Jeme A Brelin ] re: chromosomal mutation [Eb ] re: chromosomal mutation [Capuchin ] Re: oh. my. God. ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: vats dis globe of fugs coming too ya [great offwhite dude Subject: Re: salt-water and urine On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > Just read that several of Nader's Raiders have asked him to halt his > campaign because he's going to make Gore lose a couple of Western states... There have been thousands of Nader's Raiders spanning two generations, and of all those people, 12 (who've recently been working closely with the Democratic Party) have come out against his campaign. It's not the coup that his detractors would have you think it is. Let me just say that the Gore campaign has been studiously ignoring the Naderites for six months. Now they are focusing all their power and attention on the Nader Problem. Only now do they realize the peril they're in... and it is significant. Many environmental leaders (scientists, policy-makers, activists) are asking GORE to step down and concede the race to Nader. For instance: Open Letter to Al Gore October 23, 2000 Dear Vice President Gore: It is with earnest convictions and a commitment to the prosperity of the United States that I urge you to withdraw from the 2000 Presidential race immediately. You see, ironically, you are the one major candidate in this election who has no chance of winning. Your campaign has spent months of time and millions of dollars suggesting to independent and undecided constituents that supporting Ralph Nader's candidacy is a "wasted vote." I think you are intelligent and practical enough to realize that this is not so. Although Mr. Nader has consistently polled only in the single digits nationally, it has become clear, even to you and your advisors, that his few percentage points are enough to cost you the election. And let's face it, they will. These same polls, which the current administration has relied on for eight years, demonstrate your continued lagging behind Governor Bush. The Gore 2000 camp cannot complain for lack of momentum or advantages necessary to help your efforts. Most people agree that the economy is prosperous, core Democratic supporters have been vocal in your favor, and President Clinton's popularity rates higher than that of any other Chief Executive in recent history. You have even managed to separate yourself from many of his ethical controversies (though not the legal ones). And no one needs to tell you how many millions of dollars have been available in order to get out your message. But despite this, there has not been one instance during the 2000 campaign in which your numbers have pulled significantly ahead of Bush, or sustained a lead for very long. You tried very hard to win the three recent debates, but they have not injected your cause with any fervor at all. Given the elements in your favor, you should have been able to maintain a commanding lead over a comparative novice like George W. Bush by now. At present, Ralph Nader may not be able to prevent a Republican White House from being realized in January. But he can, and will, ensure that you will not win. Mr. Gore, you will not be elected President of the United States this year. With all due respect, it's over. You do not have the votes or the energy. In fact, the only way to defeat George W. Bush in this campaign would be for you to repeal your candidacy and endorse Ralph Nader for President. And this is what I implore you to do. Mr. Nader has the credentials and the record needed to defeat Bush, providing the Gore obstacle is removed. He has not been targeting "your voters," but those who have not been going to the polls. You have had ample opportunity and exposure in which to attract these citizens and to weaken the Republican message, and have failed to do so. Mr. Gore, I offer you my sympathy for the choice you must make. I have no doubt that you have worked hard to reach the position you have achieved today. But the decision you enact on this matter will determine whether you are ultimately interested in the betterment of America or the furtherance of your own resume. Rather than continue to spend record amounts of other peoples' money and monopolize mainstream coverage in pursuit of your quixotic campaign, please abandon this race now. Sacrificing on behalf of the better cause will show you in the light of nobility, far more suitable to your image, than as November's spoiled loser, which you and Bush have been running to avoid. Without your campaign to consider, Mr. Nader will be able to resoundingly defeat Bush, and help to create a country you will find easier to live with. You will be unable to prevail without him, you must know this. Do not lose to Governor Bush, Mr. Gore. Rise above that altogether by withdrawing, and allow Ralph Nader to make winners of us all. Sincerely, Brian Wallace P.S. I am not an employee of the Nader2000 campaign, nor have I ever been associated with Mr. Nader in any way, shape, or form. We have never met, and I am unacquainted with any of his election officers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:28:28 -0400 From: drop the holupki Subject: "me and mr. kennedy" lyrics here's the introduction and lyrics (best i can figure and capitalized for the archivists' convenience) to the new song that robyn played during the maxwell's show. i'd call this song "me and mr. kennedy" but i didn't write it. it has a nice melancholic feel to it ala, say, "the speed of things". woj - ----- grant: how 'bout that, uh, that-that-that-that gorgeous song you were showing you were writing the other dat? that a that a new one? robyn: oh, the new one? the one i haven't finished yet? g: might come to light! this might be the place. you're going to have to cut the sound man in on the publishing. r: *laughs* oh yeah. i mean if we used it, whatever it is, it's being taped. but. this is in d as well, actually. yeah. g: is this not the song that you were writing during the big flaming lips sebadoh tour? r: it's the one after, yeah, the one afterwards. that's right. g: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. nice backstory. r: yeah, it was last year. but i haven't finished it. i was on tour with sebadoh, we were part of the flaming lips revue. those guys like to get up late in the morning like me. whereas the lips all get up as soon as they've gone to bed. and drive three hundred miles and then set the gear up, but me and the sebs preferred to stay asleep as long as possible and get there just before the gig. the driver was a man named miles kennedy which prompted me to write this particular song or as much of it as i've written. Coming into Paradise Thinking that I must have been here once Me and Mr. Kennedy Haven't seen a blade of grass in months Coming into Harrisburg Never seen a body look so tense Tell me Mr. Kennedy Have you ever seen the clouds so dense? Maybe it'll rain Maybe it'll rain tonight Maybe it'll rain Maybe it'll rain tonight Coming into Cleveland Home of legendary Cleveland Brown Tell me Mr. Kennedy Is there any water in this town Maybe it'll rain Maybe it'll rain tonight Maybe it'll rain Maybe it'll rain tonight Here she comes Here she comes again Here she comes here she comes here she comes and she comes and Oooooooooooooooo Coming into Pittsburgh Dreaming of a thousand open shops Me and Mr. Kennedy Stretching out to catch the first few drops Tell me Mr. Kennedy... Can you make it rain? Can you make it rain tonight? Can you make it rain? Can you make it rain tonight? Can you make it rain? Can you make it rain tonight? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:44:40 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: we're oblivious >[1] The Great Quail's shameful secret [2] is that he actually is Leon >Trotsky. If you look at a copy of Bertram Wolfe's _Three Who Made a >Revolution_, you'll see that each photo of the young Trotsky looks just >like TGQ looked at the same age. It is true, but not shameful. Bettr look like one of the intellectual thugs than the thuggish thugs. In fact, I look so much like Trotsky that I have always thought of dressing as him for Halloween -- a goatee, round glasses, a copy of Chto Delat in one hand, and a Baedeker's Guide to Mexico in the other; with a hatchet stuck in my head, of course. Um, it might be a bit obscure. But it would be fun! >(This is clearest in the photo of >Trotsky at 18. Quail, I dare ya to post your high school yearbook photo.) No, I really didn't look like Trotsky in that photo -- my Dad made me get a haircut, and I had to wear a different pair of glasses. There are a few college pictures, though.... Lev Quailstein - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." --Vice President Dan Quayle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:47:22 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: "me and mr. kennedy" lyrics >Coming into Harrisburg >Never seen a body look so tense >Tell me Mr. Kennedy >Have you ever seen the clouds so dense? Eeeeeeek Eeeek EeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeEEEEEeeeek!!!!!!!! - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:48:46 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: chromosomal mutation Chris: >My shameful secret is that I like Orgy's cover of "Blue Monday" almost >as much as the original. Must be my heavy metal gene. No, it's your Skinny Puppy gene. ;) James Dignan: >omg. I've just discovered that one of my favourite stupid hippy movies of >the late 60s featured (gulp) Claudine Longet (also Peter Sellers, an >elephant, and a massive automated indoor water feature). I don't get it. How could a movie be one of your "favourites," and yet you didn't know who was in the cast until today? Eb, hoping Viv finds a cute dress to knock 'em dead at the election-night party np: "Another Rosie Christmas" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:47:49 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: we're oblivious to salt peter and urine On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, TGQ wrote: > The sad fact is people on cell phones tend to talk a lot more loudly Ok, ok, so it is not that the cell phone users are harmful, just annoying and the problem is not so much the use of the device but the inconsiderate manner in which some people use them. I can see the point. But, these people are just rude fuckers and if they were not being rude and inconsiderate in one way, they would be rude and inconsiderate in some other way. Death-rays for everyone!!!!!!!!! A little messy at first, but it wouldn't take long. What you have to do is make an example of these people and tell them to straighten up. I was in a theatre in Pittsburgh a couple years ago watching a film and these two chicks behind me just kept jabbering. I along with a number of other folks watching the show would turn and glare at the two. Finally, I stood up, turned around and cussed at them. I don't remember exactly what I said but it was something like 'can't you take into consideration that everyone here except you paid eight fucking dollars to see this show and we could not care any fucking less about Jeb the bartender with the shaved crotch, so shut the fuck up'. The rest of the movie-goers applauded and after the show a few of them thanked me. The girls left but not before throwing an entire bucket of popcorn on me. I think when they saw me eating the popcorn, they decided enough was enough. Apparently they complained to the management, but someone, possibly an employee of the theatre who was watching the film explained to the manager what had actually happened and the guy winked at me as I was leaving. Some people are just fucked and if I think it is appropriate, I will tell them so. gss 'Oh very young what will you leave us this time you're only dancing on this earth for a short while and though your dreams may toss and turn you now they will vanish away like your dad's best jeans denim blue fading up to the sky and though you want him to last forever you know he never will (you know he never will) and the patches make the goodbye harder still' - c. stevens ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:07:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: we're oblivious > >[1] The Great Quail's shameful secret [2] is that he actually is Leon > >Trotsky. If you look at a copy of Bertram Wolfe's _Three Who Made a > >Revolution_, you'll see that each photo of the young Trotsky looks just > >like TGQ looked at the same age. Now that I mention it, even better Quailish Trotsky pictures can be found in Dmitri Volkogonov's _Trotsky: The Eternal Revolutionary_. My favorite is the one from 1926 showing Trotsky and Stalin carrying the coffin at Feliks Dzerzhinsky's funeral. (Dzerzhinsky was the first head of the Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka.) Remember, if you're rushing to buy copies of the Wolfe and Volkogonov books from Amazon.com, you should go through an Amazon link on TGQ's web site, www.themodernword.com. Support your local Quail! - --Chris ps -- a couple more Nader-related articles, for those who can stand it: ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:15:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: re: chromosomal mutation On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Eb wrote: > Chris: > >My shameful secret is that I like Orgy's cover of "Blue Monday" almost > >as much as the original. Must be my heavy metal gene. > > No, it's your Skinny Puppy gene. ;) Well, now that you mention it, Dave "Rave" Ogilvie did produce at least one track on Orgy's album. (I don't think it was "Blue Monday," though.) - --Fat Dog ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:29:01 EDT From: "Asa Land" Subject: Oh. My. God. >omg. I've just discovered that one of my favourite stupid hippy movies of >the late 60s featured (gulp) Claudine Longet (also Peter Sellers, an >elephant, and a massive automated indoor water feature). >oh the shame... Omg-someone else actually remembers--The Party. Its the one where he gets to do his Hindi accent and wear a white dress, right? K _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 17:31:43 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: oh. my. God. >>omg. I've just discovered that one of my favourite stupid hippy movies >>of the late 60s featured (gulp) Claudine Longet (also Peter Sellers, an >>elephant, and a massive automated indoor water feature). >Omg-someone else actually remembers--The Party. Its the one where >he gets to do his Hindi accent and wear a white dress, right? Right! Actually, I mentioned seeing "The Party" last August on this very list. (I mean, I saw it on TCM, then mentioned it on the list. I don't mean to confuse anyone.) Anyway, there's nothing stupid about it - in fact, it's a pointed, even profound, attack on the shallowness and moral decay of contemporary society. It's as meaningful today as it was back in 1968! I might even go so far as to say that it's one of Blake Edwards' best films, and probably Longet's best work as a Hollywood film actress, perhaps even her *only* work as a Hollywood film actress, though I think she did even better work later on, as a marksman. So where's the fully-restored DVD edition with the remixed Dolby Digital 5.1 surround-sound audio track, I ask the heartless media conglomerates of the world? (Not that I would actually *buy* such a thing.) John "or is it markswoman?" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:49:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: attack of the ravening persons On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, JH3 wrote: > John "or is it markswoman?" Hedges Marksperson would be acceptable. I think person works just as well or better than 'man' or 'woman.' Congressperson, rather than congresswoman. Chairpeople, rather than chairmen. Of course, I only like that because it enables me to envision a race of chair people. Like Chair-head in the Tick... was that his name? Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:42:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: oh. my. God. >Right! Actually, I mentioned seeing "The Party" last August on this very >list. (I mean, I saw it on TCM, then mentioned it on the list. I don't mean >to confuse anyone.) Anyway, there's nothing stupid about it - in fact, it's >a pointed, even profound, attack on the shallowness and moral decay of >contemporary society. It's as meaningful today as it was back in 1968! >I might even go so far as to say that it's one of Blake Edwards' best films, >and probably Longet's best work as a Hollywood film actress, perhaps >even her *only* work as a Hollywood film actress http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/act.html ;) Actually, I'm not overly fond of "The Party." I'm not going to say it's great purely because Longet's in it, and I think Peter Sellers was in *lots* of better films. To me, "The Party" is kind of a one-joke film, which gets old after awhile. It doesn't really develop as a narrative -- it's just setpiece, setpiece, setpiece, setpiece. Yes, it's very funny at times and takes some good digs at showbiz society, but I'd never call it *profound*.... As for being one of Edwards' best films, well...maybe. (Others would probably vote for "The Days of Wine & Roses" or "Breakfast at Tiffany's"?) There isn't any Blake Edwards film which is truly special to me, so it's hard to say. There are Peter Sellers films I *adore*, but I find the "Pink Panther" series almost unwatchably burlesque. The last film I saw and liked a lot was "Erin Brockovich." I apologize in advance, for liking a film which doesn't have edgy, hipster cachet. It's a great film for Ralph Nader fans, however. ;) Eb now cringing at: TV reports about folks waiting in line all night for PlayStations ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:55:00 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Nader/Cellphone/Hawwweeeee the ludddz! >> Just read that several of Nader's Raiders have asked him to halt his >> campaign because he's going to make Gore lose a couple of Western states... tit for tat deal. Nader should agree to drop out in certain states only if Gore pulls out in the same number of states. >PS: Personally I thought Drew's cell-phone guidelines were very >reasonable and appropriate. agreed, and for thereasons TGQ said. Also when people walk down the street holding a conversation with someone, they do just that. When they're on the cell phone, they don't walk, they just stand wherever they are - especially if they have found the spot that can block the most foot-traffic. As for cinemas (i.e., movie theatres), cellphones should be checked at the door. > > the 1998 Scottish film "My > > Name Is Joe", which, though in English, comes fully subtitled. was Auf Wiedersehn Pet ever shown in the US? Jimmy Nail is incomprehensible to most people in England when he gets his Geordie in full flow. God help any yanks who try to understand him... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:40:39 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: we're oblivious http://www.jibjab.com/jibjab.html check out the hilarious 'capitol ill' with dubya and bore rapping. >I can't believe they would make it that easy to be lazy and ignorant! wait 'til we can vote online. there'll be no need to expose ourselves to the harmful rays of the sun or wait in lines. all information could come from the web, where, as we all know, everything is true. reminds me of a star trek episode... >Just read that several of Nader's Raiders have asked him to halt his >campaign because he's going to make Gore lose a couple of Western states... i've also heard that gore supporters are flooding the nader campaign with simiar requests. gore should bite the bullet and try and form some sort of coalition with the green party. no, really. >even during my serious drinking years I never went much >above six or seven pints a night - it's just too much. my best night of beer drinking involved thirteen pints of guinness over the course of five hours, not counting helping people finish so we could go to the next bar. i haven't come close to that night since. i think my liver is still processing... >what kind of rock star wouldn't even offer me at least a case of beer? hell, i'll give you two! >> PS: Personally I thought Drew's cell-phone guidelines were very >> reasonable and appropriate. > >i think some exemptions might be in order for some circumstances, but they >were certainly thought-provoking. of course, emergencies would call for an exception; but how often have you seen one of those? some restaurants have screening devices that prevent cell phones from getting a signal. i think all restaurants should have these. hell, i'd like to carry one on me at all times. here in massoftwoshitts, it is actually illegal to talk on a cell while driving. of course, i think pre-marital sex is still illegal as well. >Ooh, selective intolerance, kinda like the church. i think everyone's got one of these. pet peeve, arch-nemesis, what have you. for me, it's corporate whoremongers. or maybe the church. >the "this isn't as good as [artist]'s other albums, but a mediocre album >from [artist] is better than [number >= 95]% of everything else out there" >construction gets trotted out so often it should have a formal name. i >propose "branscombe's relativistic rationalization." this reminds me of the factoid that the richest one percent makes more than the poorest ninety-nine. coincidence, or is it something more? ken "i've been to paradise; but i've never been to me" the kenster np zimmerman blonde on blonde ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:01:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeme A Brelin Subject: re: chromosomal mutation On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Eb wrote: > James Dignan: > >omg. I've just discovered that one of my favourite stupid hippy movies of > >the late 60s featured (gulp) Claudine Longet (also Peter Sellers, an > >elephant, and a massive automated indoor water feature). > I don't get it. How could a movie be one of your "favourites," and yet you > didn't know who was in the cast until today? Well, note the past tense on "featured". As the film still FEATURES Ms. Longet and Peter Sellers, surely the past tense is meant to indicate that it WAS one of his favorites, but is no longer. Now, we could either infer that of the late 60s stupid hippy movies, this was his favorite or that in the late 60s, this was among his favorite stupid hippy movies. Anybody that had a favorite movie in the 60s is damned old and I'm surprised they remember their first names, let alone the stars of their very favorite films. Oh, also note that some people's favorite films are about on par with their favorite washing detergents. Entertainment isn't nearly as important elsewhere as it is in LA. > Eb, hoping Viv finds a cute dress to knock 'em dead at the > election-night party Don't be a chump, Eb. She put you in your place after your last comment and you couldn't reply intelligently so you threw out another pot-shot. Sad, really. J. - -- ----------------- Jeme A Brelin jeme@brelin.net ----------------- [cc] counter-copyright http://www.openlaw.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:38:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: chromosomal mutation Jeme: >Anybody that had a favorite movie in the 60s is damned old and I'm >surprised they remember their first names, let alone the stars of their >very favorite films. A very silly comment. >Oh, also note that some people's favorite films are about on par with >their favorite washing detergents. Entertainment isn't nearly as >important elsewhere as it is in LA. Here we go again. Those wicked LA people -- they're mutants!! Head for the hills!! The only way to combat these strange beings is to roughly grab them in nightclubs, and demand to have your way!! >> Eb, hoping Viv finds a cute dress to knock 'em dead at the >> election-night party > >Don't be a chump, Eb. She put you in your place after your last comment >and you couldn't reply intelligently so you threw out another >pot-shot. Sad, really. Yes, that "sniveling boob" quip definitely traumatized me to the core. Viv's kind of an expert on exposing boobs, isn't she? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 21:26:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: re: chromosomal mutation On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Eb wrote: > A very silly comment. That was exactly the intention. Good to see you're still on the board. Next is the lightning round where all points are quintupled... > Here we go again. Those wicked LA people -- they're mutants!! Head for the > hills!! The only way to combat these strange beings is to roughly grab them > in nightclubs, and demand to have your way!! How's that? Wicked? Mutants? Nightclubs? All I said was entertainment-obsessed. If you wanna go all the way to wicked, more power to you. Overheard at the sushi place yesterday: "It's not like when I was living in LA... When I was there, I'd just HEAR about movies and what's going on in the world and what albums are coming out. But HERE it's just the salmon in the Columbia or whatever. I feel so out of touch." Wow. She also had this little doozy: "When I was in Thailand, like, all the people have no jobs or anything and there's no money and the people there make all this art and architecture and stuff and it's really beautiful, but it's just because they have all this time on their hands because they don't have jobs, you know?" > that "sniveling boob" quip definitely traumatized me to the core. Is that all we have to do, traumatize you to the core? Oh, man. I wish you'd said something five years ago. > Viv's kind of an expert on exposing boobs, isn't she? You wouldn't know. Eb, you need to get out and meet more women... really make friends with them and stuff. You'll find there are women who wear all kinds of clothes and even some that aren't "sluts"... I promise. I can't believe one night in one dress had such an impact on you. I mean, didn't you go to prom? Tell me about your mother... J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ [cc] counter-copyright http://www.openlaw.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:00:49 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: oh. my. God. James Dignan wrote: > > Claudine Longet (also Peter Sellers, an > elephant, and a massive automated indoor water feature "birdy, num-num? birdy, num-num?" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:56:19 +0930 From: great offwhite dude Subject: Re: vats dis globe of fugs coming too ya Ha, listening to youse guys a talking about which of those turkeys to vote for makes me realise how lucky ve iss in orstralia , bush und gore make John Howard ( oz prime ministrode ) look good and he is an utter wanker. Nader iss an asset to you, but poor bastard haf no chance in beink elected i thibk, See is orstralia ve haf a preferential voding system and ve all have to vote or pay a fine ( ggasp shock horror - I see you orl thro yor hunds up mit the big googley eyes- vat a civil violation sez you US concititution critters ) BUT , it iss good becorse at least ve are orl involved in zer electoral process und zer thrid parties are allowed to come into play. So in the orstalaian electrode ze kin vote for the greens and if they get a percventage of the vode- I tink 4% - zey got a seat in the senate . Meanvhile in the parliament , if ze first preference candiddate does not giot enuff vodes to git electroded , zen zer voder cin pass on der vote toa nodder kandidate und so vorth.dis mean dat you can vode for soemone lie Nader and if nhe no gewt vode, pass on to gorrre and it not a waisted vote Howeffer, ve still end up mit turkeys in charges, but zeyre vicked planns are sometioems sytmied by zer third parties in zer senate, so iss more democratic no ? And i just love to see conservatives screwed heim ? iff you musst vote -bush iss a bigger turkey dan ANYVUN , I say screw him but goot !!!!!! Nader best but gore least worst than bush fegg xgggggx now I wait for EB e-amail to chastise me for not usink speell cheker , yuck , yuck., ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #306 *******************************