From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #276 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 9 2000 Volume 09 : Number 276 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #275 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: freds [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Minders/Cotton Mather ["Alex Wettreich" ] Fwd: AMAZING PENIS ENLARGEMENT BREAKTHROUGH! [lj lindhurst ] Huh...I had NO idea this was going on [Eb ] Re: Ich bin Uber! ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on [bocce ball ] Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on [steve ] calling all tapers [Bayard ] From the Poetic Justice file (7% Moscone/Milk Content) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: RIP Richard Farnsworth ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: ey oop? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:59:41 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V9 #275 >> > 5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords >> > of Acid, Jane's Addiction) >> >> Bongwater. Pearl Jam (named for a hallucinogenic jelly that one of >> the band member's Native American grandmother often made). The Cure. > >Lush, XTC, No no no!!!!! I dunno how many times people have to point out that XTC were a band long before ecstasy was a drug. James (who seems to have dones so on many occasions, and who will shut up now). James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:54:38 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: freds TGQ: >Brian: > >>and perhaps start a mini-thread: band names >>that include punctuation? > >Therapy? > >Honorable mention: Beck! (from Odelay.) The Mavis's (sic); Wham! >Just to show I think about this kind of stuff more than I really >should, let me offer a few other possible (and terribly annoying) >threads, some of which have no doubt made the rounds here already: > >Band* names that: > >1. Have a deliberate misspelling (Phish, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin) the Byrds, the Monkees >2. Contain spurious umlauts (Motorhead, Spinal Tap, Amon Duul, Moxy >Fruvous**, Blue Oyster Cult) Mestar (omelette on the e) >3. Contain real umlauts (Einsturzende Neubauten, Bjork) Husker du >4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, >Pearl Jam, Tool) the Lovin' Spoonful; the Sex Pistols; Steely Dan >5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords of >Acid, Jane's Addiction) Herbs; Bongwater >6. Are named after places (Chicago, Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, Berlin, Laibach) Portishead; Ohio >7. Are named after literary references (The Doors, Love and Rockets, >the Velvet Underground, Marillion; Special category for William S. >Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) House of Love; They might be giants (depends whether you regard film as lietarture, I s'pose - if so, add Klaatu) >8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful Dead, Nirvana) the Mormon Tabernacle Choir? >9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine >Wheel, Barry Manilow) Television! >10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine Dream, >Radiohead) 801, Sneaky Feelings >11. Are named for obscure historical figures, fictional or >agricultural (Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull) Alice Cooper >12. Special "What the hell?" category (Meatloaf, Archers of Loaf, >Rinaldo and the Loaf) oh, Quailie - that's REnaldo... is this the catregory where we put "When people were shorter and lived near the water"? >Oh, stop me, I beg you.... kill me, killlll meeeeeee........ surely we could fit Bauhaus, Dada and Cabaret Voltaire together into a thread, too James (bored bored bored...) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 17:45:58 GMT From: "Alex Wettreich" Subject: Minders/Cotton Mather >they don't sound painfully reverent toward their predecessors the way that >Cotton Mather do. reminds me more of the Dukes Of Stratosphear record. That's funny because, while I like The Minders, they've always seemed particularly beholden to the British Invasion template, at least when compared with most of their E6 brethren. Then again, I haven't heard the new EP. I love A Hard Day's Night as much as the next guy, but given the spirit of creative risk-taking and progression that The Beatles represent, it's strange how many of their devotees are content to paint by numbers. And to forego lyrical substance entirely. To my ears, Cotton Mather, while undoubtedly Beatlesque, are willing to fuck with the genre in a way that many of their compatriots won't, particularly on the Kontiki and Hotel Baltimore releases. And I understand the next one will go further afield still (Dave Fridmann is apparently involved, which is an intriguing sign). (Yes, I run a Cotton Mather fansite, The Manchurian. ObPlug: Those fegs with a psychedelic bent may want to check them out, either on Napster or via my Internet radio station (half Cotton Mather, half other stuff -- follow the link above.) np: Radiohead, Kid A (So? What does everyone think? Like The Beatles and not many others, they're willing to drag a sizeable fan base into new genres. Very refreshing.) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Eb] NY DAILY NEWS...RUSH AND MOLLOY Vega Doesn't Vonda Talk About It Suzanne Vega would rather you not bring up Vonda Shepard. The other day, on the folkie's Web site, www.Vega.net, one of her fans made the mistake of doing just that -- fouling Vega's chatroom with the name of the "Ally McBeal" singer who has claimed Vega's husband, noted pianist and producer Mitchell Froom. "It is my very own (soon to be ex) husband who is waking up with [Shepard]," Vega wrote back. "They have been seeing each other for just over two years now. Normally I keep my personal life private, but this note was more than I could take on this particular morning." Vega's husband helped co-produce Shepard's breakthrough album "Songs from 'Ally McBeal.'" Shepard's manager, Gail Gelman, told us she wasn't "comfortable" responding to Vega's comment, but insisted, "Vonda's relationship with Mitchell was certainly not the cause of his breakup" with Vega. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:45:05 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Ich bin Uber! > Band* names that: > > 1. Have a deliberate misspelling (Phish, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin) Were the Beatles the first? Cany anyone name (a) an earlier one, or (b) another one that is misspelled to creat a double meaning? Seems to me that after the Beatles every band wanted to spell their name funny for no other reason than "it looks cool". > 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, > Pearl Jam, Tool) If I remember my Rock & Roll conversion facts correctly, 10cc=1 Lovin' Spoonful - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:06:40 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on if you decide to follow up at www.vega.net, I suggest scrolling through this particular file (not obvious from the front) -- http://www.vega.net/co00.htm besides just being a fan of her music, I am consistently stunned by how frank and open and warm Suzanne is with her fanbase, particularly via this website/message board. it's not usual. to be loved by anyone, dolph ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:30:33 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! > >> and perhaps start a mini-thread: band names > >> that include punctuation? > > > > Therapy? > > Honorable mention: Beck! (from Odelay.) >> Man or Astroman? >>You all forgot the obvious! R.E.M. (B.T.O., the G.T.O.'s, etc, etc) Neu! > > 1. Have a deliberate misspelling (Phish, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin) >> Korn. Blessid Union of Souls. > The Byrds, Def Leppard > > 2. Contain spurious umlauts (Motorhead, Spinal Tap, Amon Duul, Moxy > > Fruvous**, Blue Oyster Cult) >> Wyld Stallyons ;-) >>Motley Crue > > 3. Contain real umlauts (Einsturzende Neubauten, Bjork) >> Husker Du. > > 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, > > Pearl Jam, Tool) >> DVDA. Stiff Little Finger. Miranda Sex Garden. Circle Jerks. Love. Sex Pistols, the Cramps, the Dickies, Human Sexual Response, the = Members, the Slits, the Loving Spoonful, the Butthole Surfers, the = Climax Blues Band, Alien Sex Fiend, Sex Gang Children, Tower of Power, = the Fugs, (the Kinks?) > > 5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords = of > > Acid, Jane's Addiction) >> Bongwater. Pearl Jam (named for a hallucinogenic jelly that one of = the band member's Native American grandmother often made). The Cure. >>Dexy's Midnight Runners the Doobie Brothers=20 > > 6. Are named after places (Chicago, Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, = Berlin, Laibach) >> Alabama. Soundgarden. >Asia, Toronto, and my band Benalto Japan, UK, MC5, the Merseybeats > > 7. Are named after literary references (The Doors, Love and Rockets, > > the Velvet Underground, Marillion; Special category for William S. > > Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) >> Romeo Void. Bob Dylan. >Burroughs cat: Nova Mob H.P. Lovecraft, Aerosmith, Steppenwolf, Tom Verlaine=20 > > 8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful Dead, = Nirvana) >> Jesus Jones. Jesus and Mary Chain. Madonna > > 9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine > > Wheel, Barry Manilow) >> Alice In Chains? > > 10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine = Dream, > > Radiohead) >> If you mean names from references other bands have made, then Rolling = Stones > would qualify. Technically, so would the Beatles (a tip 'o the hat to = the Crickets). >Spoon (from the Can song), Urge Overkill (from a Parliment song) Negativland, Talk Talk > > 11. Are named for obscure historical figures, fictional or > > agricultural (Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull) >> Alice Cooper. David Bowie. Dead Kennedys. Trip Shakespeare. Englebert = Humperdinck. Pink Floyd, H.P. Lovecraft, Marilynn Manson, Elvis Costello, the John = Doe Thing, (Monty Python's Flying Circus) > > 12. Special "What the hell?" category (Meatloaf, Archers of Loaf, > > Rinaldo and the Loaf) >> Sir Richard Pumpaloaf. Sugarloaf Later, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:12:22 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on when we last left our heroes, Eb exclaimed: >[And is Vega overdue for a new album, or *what*? Eb] i was at the bottom line last night and they announced that suzanne vega would be doing a show there sometime soon...november 18th to be specific. perhaps she will cart out new material then. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:15:52 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on >Shepard's manager, Gail Gelman, told us she wasn't "comfortable" >responding to Vega's comment, but insisted, "Vonda's relationship >with Mitchell was certainly not the cause of his breakup" with Vega. Ick. Best I can tell, Froom is making a big step down. - - Steve __________ "He's probably the least qualified person ever to be nominated by a major party ... What is his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk? - Ron Reagan on George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 01:47:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: calling all tapers hello, regarding recording the upcoming Robyn/Grant appearances. word is that soundboard access will depend on the venues, so come early and bring cables to patch out of Grant's(?) recorder, and bring mics in case plugging in doesn't work out. There is also word that the Iota gigs are now october 29th and 30th (30th is a tentative date); which counts me out, I will be in central america then. I am thinking of building a robyn taper's resource - an email list or at least a web page. Could all you live tapers drop me a line, and let me know your location, email, gear, and trading preferences? Also, Mysterious Rob, I'll need you to record the Iota gig(s) if you can. =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:27:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: From the Poetic Justice file (7% Moscone/Milk Content) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/08/stabbing.dtl 'Twinkie Defense' psychiatrist stabbed ASSOCIATED PRESS October 8, 2000 SAN ANSELMO -- Martin Blinder, the psychiatrist best known for the "Twinkie Defense" in the murder trial of a San Francisco supervisor, was stabbed in the chest at his San Anselmo home. Blinder, 63, suffered at least one stab wound Friday afternoon and lost a considerable amount of blood. He called police and was rushed into surgery. He was in stable condition following the surgery and is expected to live. [didn't bother with rest] ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Kid A Alex Wettreich wrote: > np: Radiohead, Kid A (So? What does everyone think? Like The Beatles > and not many others, they're willing to drag a sizeable fan base into > new genres. Very refreshing.) it feels like OK Computer with its skeleton pulled out, or the soundtrack to a black & white German Art film being shown just slightly out of focus and filmed at angle that's disorienting but you're not sure why. I'm not sure yet (after 6-7 listens) whether or not I enjoy it, but i admire a lot of it already. I just home Phil Selway had enough to do while recording the other tracks that are going to be the companion album coming out next year so that he felt like part of the band. after all, there's only two songs with live drums; maybe three? ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:12:56 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: RIP Richard Farnsworth hbrandt wrote: > > LINCOLN, N.M. (AP) - Actor Richard Farnsworth, a former stuntman and > two-time Academy Award nominee, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound > Friday night. He was 80. He didn't look too well in The Straight Story, it must be said. I guess he had a full life... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:26:00 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Y Beatliau James Dignan wrote: > > The resulting song, "Gwroniau", opened with > those memorable lines: "Fi, byddaf i brenin, a ti, byddit ti brenhines" Sounds much the same as the generic song wailed by thrown-out-at-closing-time serenaders... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:30:21 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: ey oop? James Dignan wrote: > > now avoiding - building a wardrobe. I wouldn't. Some of their earlier work was amazing -- check out the 53-minute mellotron solo on "Hot Buttered Telegraph Pole", which is only available on the Burkina Faso import. Stewart PS: Copey AND Donneye on stage at once!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 04:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on Eb wrote: > [And is Vega overdue for a new album, or *what*? Eb] probably, although with the non-american greatest hits thing from last year, it's not quite as long as it seems. > NY DAILY NEWS...RUSH AND MOLLOY > > Vega Doesn't Vonda Talk About It > > Suzanne Vega would rather you not bring up Vonda Shepard. > > The other day, on the folkie's Web site, www.Vega.net, one of her > fans made the mistake of doing just that -- fouling Vega's chatroom > with the name of the "Ally McBeal" singer who has claimed Vega's > husband, noted pianist and producer Mitchell Froom. > > "It is my very own (soon to be ex) husband who is waking up with > [Shepard]," Vega wrote back. "They have been seeing each other for > just over two years now. Normally I keep my personal life private, but > this note was more than I could take on this particular morning." > > Vega's husband helped co-produce Shepard's breakthrough album "Songs > from 'Ally McBeal.'" > > Shepard's manager, Gail Gelman, told us she wasn't "comfortable" > responding to Vega's comment, but insisted, "Vonda's relationship with > Mitchell was certainly not the cause of his breakup" with Vega. i can't remember what Shepard looks like, but talent-wise, isn't this like trading in a Mercedes for a Pinto? ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:06:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Huh...I had NO idea this was going on On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Shepard's manager, Gail Gelman, told us she wasn't "comfortable" > > responding to Vega's comment, but insisted, "Vonda's relationship > with > > Mitchell was certainly not the cause of his breakup" with Vega. > > i can't remember what Shepard looks like, but talent-wise, isn't this > like trading in a Mercedes for a Pinto? As someone who's never been divorced, I must ask, is "more talented than my ex-wife" that important a consideration? Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:54:38 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: RIP Richard Farnsworth > He didn't look too well in The Straight Story, it must be said. I guess > he had a full life... Ok, I can't speak from experience but couldn't he have been a little cleaner about the whole thing? Efficient he was, but what a fucking mess he left. I know the pain must be beyond severe, but I'm sure he could have done it in a way that would be much less of drain on those around him. There was probably a great deal of pain medicine within reach, like liquid morphine etc.., which would have done the job as well or better for all involved. I think there is more to this than we know. gss np - jim croce, misc. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #276 *******************************