From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #275 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, October 8 2000 Volume 09 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 53 rock stars [Eb ] Iota on the 16th [Scott Hunter McCleary ] RE: sub-tropical [GSS ] gybe! [tsg20@cam.ac.uk] the Cogs perform: If You Were A Priest. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] [] Kristin Hersh Autumn Tour Dates [bocce ball ] RIP Richard Farnsworth [hbrandt ] Ich bin Uberweenie! [The Great Quail ] Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! [bocce ball ] Re: the Cogs perform: If You Were A Priest. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] [Bayard ] Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! [dmw ] Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! [Terrence Marks ] RE: Ich bin Uberweenie! ["Brian Huddell" ] Ich bin Uber! [Glen Uber ] Re: 53 rock stars [Glen Uber ] Will the stars be piled waist-deep in November and December? [Eb ] Re: Ich bin Uber! [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:31:38 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: 53 rock stars I believe 53 was also the number of "Herbie the Love Bug"...is *this* the missing piece of the puzzle? :) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 08:28:27 -0400 From: Scott Hunter McCleary Subject: Iota on the 16th I plan on being there, though with my work schedule these days, I doubt I'd be able to do anything beforehand. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:54:03 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: RE: sub-tropical > > Load 2000 Professional. It is the best they have, as of yet, come up with. > > 2000 Professional also installs with Power Management enabled by default. A > less extreme approach would be to disable Power Management in the Power > applet in the Windows ME Control Panel. If that doesn't solve it then APM > needs to be disabled in the system BIOS. If you don't know your way around > the BIOS email me off list with the model of the PC and we'll figure it out. Yeah, but in all other windows versions and all bios versions I have seen, that is just for peripherals, monitor and hardrive for instance, isn't it? So once you move the pointer or hit a key, the peripherals start up again. If its a bios issue, then wouldn't that just send a message to the peripherals to power down. How can it do a successful shutdown and not prompt you about saving open files that have been changed? I guess it could look under my_documents and use a counter documentXX or something and just save the files like that, but then it could run into other problems, like diskspace for one. So, is this another MS snafu and if you add a chapter to your book and walk away from your machine for more than a certain amount of time, it close applications and all files associated without saving any changes or additions? This seems a bit extreme, even for MS. > > Robyn Hitchcock has made many albums that I enjoy. Yeah, that too. gss 'livin is mostly wasting time and I waste my share of mine but it never feels to good so lets don't take to long' - tvz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 08:31:19 +0100 From: tsg20@cam.ac.uk Subject: gybe! > From: "Brian Huddell" > Subject: GYBE! > > Since it's so quiet, would anyone like to tell us what they know/think > about Godspeed You Black Emperor! (and perhaps start a mini-thread: band > names that include punctuation)? I heard "Monheim" from the forthcoming > album and was just plain blown away. Stunning stuff. Anybody? Great band. I guess this is their second proper album; there was a tape-only album limited to 33 copies, but that hasn't even been bootlegged (as far as I know), the first album f a infinity, and the slow riot for new zero kanada ep. There was also a spin-off release by A Silver Mt Zion called something like "He Has Left Us Alone But Shards Of Light Sometimes Grace The Corners Of Our Rooms". As you can see, they're fond of pretentious titles; their music can also come across as being a bit precious, too. I'd always liked them a lot until I saw them live, and then I absolutely loved them - a really good live band. Oh, and the music is kind of post-rock, I guess; several guitarists, a violinist, a couple of drummers, someone on the glockenspiel, etc etc. On record they often use lengthy spoken-word samples eg of street preachers etc, but they don't seem to use these samples when they play live. They're also quite mysterious; rarely giving interviews, not giving their names and so on. They seem to align themselves with the anti-WTO movement, too. I've not heard the new record, but people who have say it's as good as anything else they've done. For more info try: http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed toby PS Their stuff is very nicely packaged too, especially the vinyl editions - but be warned that the beautiful - looking vinyl edition of f a infinity has about 20mins less music than the CD. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 12:04:04 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: the Cogs perform: If You Were A Priest. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] another interesting forward from the yahoo club... >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:48:40 -0400 (EDT) >From: theodius65 >Subject: the Cogs perform: If You Were A Priest. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] > >Bumped into this Mp3 surfin' one night.... > http://www.thecogs.net/mp3/cogs_if_you_were_a_priest.mp3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 12:20:02 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: Kristin Hersh Autumn Tour Dates northeast date. notice the addition of the tune inn, right here in lovely downtown new haven! wheee! a show i can walk to! >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:48:51 -0400 (EDT) >From: fourad@almaroad.co.uk >Subject: Kristin Hersh Autumn Tour Dates > >22.10.00 Brattle Theatre, Cambridge MA >05.11.00 Starr Hill Music Hall, Charlottesville VA >07.11.00 Rosebud, Pittsburgh, PA >08.11.00 Tin Angel, Philadelphia, PA >10.11.00 Aldrich Museum of Contemporary Art, Ridgefield, CT >11.11.00 Tune-Inn Lounge, New Haven, CT ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:44:40 -0600 From: hbrandt Subject: RIP Richard Farnsworth LINCOLN, N.M. (AP) - Actor Richard Farnsworth, a former stuntman and two-time Academy Award nominee, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound Friday night. He was 80. Farnsworth, who had been involved in filmmaking for more than 60 years, was nominated this year for an Oscar for best actor for his performance in ``The Straight Story.'' Complete story at: http://my.aol.com/entertainment/story.tmpl?table=n&cat=0306&id=0010061109614533 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:49:36 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Ich bin Uberweenie! Brian: >and perhaps start a mini-thread: band names >that include punctuation? Therapy? Honorable mention: Beck! (from Odelay.) Just to show I think about this kind of stuff more than I really should, let me offer a few other possible (and terribly annoying) threads, some of which have no doubt made the rounds here already: Band* names that: 1. Have a deliberate misspelling (Phish, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin) 2. Contain spurious umlauts (Motorhead, Spinal Tap, Amon Duul, Moxy Fruvous**, Blue Oyster Cult) 3. Contain real umlauts (Einsturzende Neubauten, Bjork) 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, Pearl Jam, Tool) 5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords of Acid, Jane's Addiction) 6. Are named after places (Chicago, Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, Berlin, Laibach) 7. Are named after literary references (The Doors, Love and Rockets, the Velvet Underground, Marillion; Special category for William S. Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) 8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful Dead, Nirvana) 9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine Wheel, Barry Manilow) 10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine Dream, Radiohead) 11. Are named for obscure historical figures, fictional or agricultural (Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull) 12. Special "What the hell?" category (Meatloaf, Archers of Loaf, Rinaldo and the Loaf) Oh, stop me, I beg you.... kill me, killlll meeeeeee........ - --Quail *I am trying to stay fairly mainstream here for the sake of sanity and/or brevity. ** Er... I *assume* these umlauts are spurious.... - -- +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 13:00:43 -0400 From: bocce ball Subject: Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! when we last left our heroes, The Great Quail exclaimed: >Brian: > >>and perhaps start a mini-thread: band names >>that include punctuation? suddenly, tammy! >2. Contain spurious umlauts (Motorhead, Spinal Tap, Amon Duul, Moxy >Fruvous**, Blue Oyster Cult) spinal tap's in the umlauts-over-consonants sub-category. the only other one i can remember is a band called grotus which had umlauts over each consonant. >Oh, stop me, I beg you.... kill me, killlll meeeeeee........ paging dr. lindhurst. dr. lindhurst to euthanasia ward. woj p.s. ferris pointed out that telecharge is now selling tickets for both joe's pub robyn'n'grant gigs so i guess the one on the 19th is now confirmed. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 13:38:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: the Cogs perform: If You Were A Priest. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] thanks, theo and woj! i see from their promo photo that they drink beer and are good-looking... i predict success for this band! (good music too... does that matter?) On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, bocce ball wrote: > another interesting forward from the yahoo club... > > >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:48:40 -0400 (EDT) > >From: theodius65 > >Subject: the Cogs perform: If You Were A Priest. [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn > Hitchcock] > > > >Bumped into this Mp3 surfin' one night.... > > http://www.thecogs.net/mp3/cogs_if_you_were_a_priest.mp3 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:50:46 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Ich bin Uberweenie! > Band* names that: > > 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, > Pearl Jam, Tool) Thin White Rope. > 7. ... Special category for William S. > Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) Thin White Rope. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:48:39 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, The Great Quail wrote: > 10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine Dream, > Radiohead) i think you need a 10a, bands who took their name from the velvet underground. i think there are at least eight. - -- d. - - oh no, you've just read mail from doug = dmw@radix.net - get yr pathos - - www.pathetic-caverns.com -- books, flicks, tunes, etc. = reviews - - www.fecklessbeast.com -- angst, guilt, fear, betrayal! = guitar pop ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:25:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Ich bin Uberweenie! On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, The Great Quail wrote: > 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, > Pearl Jam, Tool) Way I heard it, Hole was named after some line in a moderately famous ancient Greek play (category 7), because Courtney wanted people to be confused. > 8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful Dead, Nirvana) If The Grateful Dead count, do King Crimson? > 9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine > Wheel, Barry Manilow) The Catherine Wheel is more of a pinwheel-and-fireworks combination. You _could_ torture someone with it were you particularly imaginative, but that's not it's primary use. > 10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine Dream, > Radiohead) I don't want this thread to continue, but I have to mention Squeeze. Terrence Marks Unlike Minerva (a comic strip) http://www.unlikeminerva.com HCF (another comic strip) http://www.mpog.com/hcf normal@grove.ufl.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:42:35 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Ich bin Uberweenie! > The Catherine Wheel is more of a pinwheel-and-fireworks combination. You > _could_ torture someone with it were you particularly imaginative, but > that's not it's primary use. > Terrence Marks It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping! From http://www.borndigital.com/racking.htm: "Another custom was to take the living, broken body of the victim and 'braid' it to a ladder or wheel. These wheels were perched atop long poles, so the sinners would die high in the air, with hungry crows as their last companions. These were called 'Catherine Wheels', after Saint Catherine of Alexandria, an early Christian martyr presumably from the early 4th century during the rule of the Roman emperor Maxentius (although her historicity has been questioned)." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 13:55:48 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Ich bin Uber! On 10/7/00 9:49 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > Brian: > >> and perhaps start a mini-thread: band names >> that include punctuation? > > Therapy? > > Honorable mention: Beck! (from Odelay.) Man or Astroman? > 1. Have a deliberate misspelling (Phish, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin) Korn. Blessid Union of Souls. > 2. Contain spurious umlauts (Motorhead, Spinal Tap, Amon Duul, Moxy > Fruvous**, Blue Oyster Cult) Wyld Stallyons ;-) > 3. Contain real umlauts (Einsturzende Neubauten, Bjork) Husker Du. > 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, > Pearl Jam, Tool) DVDA. Stiff Little Finger. Miranda Sex Garden. Circle Jerks. Love. > 5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords of > Acid, Jane's Addiction) Bongwater. Pearl Jam (named for a hallucinogenic jelly that one of the band member's Native American grandmother often made). The Cure. > 6. Are named after places (Chicago, Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, Berlin, Laibach) Alabama. Soundgarden. > 7. Are named after literary references (The Doors, Love and Rockets, > the Velvet Underground, Marillion; Special category for William S. > Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) Romeo Void. Bob Dylan. > 8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful Dead, Nirvana) Jesus Jones. Jesus and Mary Chain. > 9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine > Wheel, Barry Manilow) Alice In Chains? > 10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine Dream, > Radiohead) If you mean names from references other bands have made, then Rolling Stones would qualify. Technically, so would the Beatles (a tip 'o the hat to the Crickets). > 11. Are named for obscure historical figures, fictional or > agricultural (Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull) Alice Cooper. David Bowie. Dead Kennedys. Trip Shakespeare. Englebert Humperdinck. > 12. Special "What the hell?" category (Meatloaf, Archers of Loaf, > Rinaldo and the Loaf) Sir Richard Pumpaloaf. - -- Cheers! - -g- )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber uberg (at) sonic dot net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 14:08:40 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: 53 rock stars On 10/6/00 11:16 AM, Gene Hopstetter wrote: > But what is it with rock stars dying at 53? Frank Zappa, Jerry Garcia, and > Eddie Rabbit (iirc) all died at age 53. I'll bet there are others, too. > Coincidence? Who knows! Hate to take a whizz on your theory, but Frank Zappa was bout 3 weeks shy of his 53rd birthday when he went to the great Utility Muffin Research Kitchen in the sky. While we're at it, didn't Rick Danko die on his 53rd birthday? Anyone? Cheers! - -g- "Kids are the best! You can teach them to hate the same things you hate. And these days they pretty much raise themselves, what with the Internet and all." --Homer Simpson )+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+()+( Glen Uber uberg (at) sonic dot net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 16:06:23 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Will the stars be piled waist-deep in November and December? Other musical folks turning 53 this year: Gregg Allman Ian Anderson Lynn Anderson David Bowie Betty Buckley Glenn Close Arlo Guthrie Emmylou Harris David Helfgott Don Henley Elton John Kenny Loggins Michael McKean Meat Loaf Olivia Newton-John Peter Noone Iggy Pop Jonathan Pryce Alan Thicke Some fairly heavyweight names on that list, no? (And I'm not just referring to Thicke.) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:30:02 -0500 From: "Jack Tripper" Subject: Re: Ich bin Uber! I'll try to throw my 1 cent in here... > On 10/7/00 9:49 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > > > Brian: > > > >> and perhaps start a mini-thread: band names > >> that include punctuation? > > > > Therapy? > > > > Honorable mention: Beck! (from Odelay.) > > Man or Astroman? You all forgot the obvious! R.E.M. > > 1. Have a deliberate misspelling (Phish, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin) > > Korn. Blessid Union of Souls. > > > 2. Contain spurious umlauts (Motorhead, Spinal Tap, Amon Duul, Moxy > > Fruvous**, Blue Oyster Cult) > > Wyld Stallyons ;-) Motley Crue > > 3. Contain real umlauts (Einsturzende Neubauten, Bjork) > > Husker Du. > > > 4. Are named for sexual references (Kiss, Hole, Come, Cream, 10 CC, > > Pearl Jam, Tool) > > DVDA. Stiff Little Finger. Miranda Sex Garden. Circle Jerks. Love. > > > 5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords of > > Acid, Jane's Addiction) > > Bongwater. Pearl Jam (named for a hallucinogenic jelly that one of the band > member's Native American grandmother often made). The Cure. > Dexy's Midnight Runners > > 6. Are named after places (Chicago, Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, Berlin, Laibach) > > Alabama. Soundgarden. Asia, Toronto, and my band Benalto > > 7. Are named after literary references (The Doors, Love and Rockets, > > the Velvet Underground, Marillion; Special category for William S. > > Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) > > Romeo Void. Bob Dylan. Burroughs cat: Nova Mob > > 8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful Dead, Nirvana) > > Jesus Jones. Jesus and Mary Chain. > > > 9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine > > Wheel, Barry Manilow) > > Alice In Chains? > > > 10. The ever-popular groups named from other groups (Tangerine Dream, > > Radiohead) > > If you mean names from references other bands have made, then Rolling Stones > would qualify. Technically, so would the Beatles (a tip 'o the hat to the > Crickets). Spoon (from the Can song), Urge Overkill (from a Parliment song) > > 11. Are named for obscure historical figures, fictional or > > agricultural (Uriah Heep, Jethro Tull) > > Alice Cooper. David Bowie. Dead Kennedys. Trip Shakespeare. Englebert > Humperdinck. > > 12. Special "What the hell?" category (Meatloaf, Archers of Loaf, > > Rinaldo and the Loaf) > > Sir Richard Pumpaloaf. Mission Of Burma, perhaps. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 00:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Ich bin Uber! Glen Uber wrote: > On 10/7/00 9:49 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > > Brian: >>> and perhaps start a minithread: band names that include punctuation? > > Therapy? > > Honorable mention: Beck! (from Odelay.) > Man or Astroman? Tony! Toni! Tone! (or whatever order the y, i & e go) > > 5. Are named for drug references (Rush, Morphine, Green Day, Lords > > of Acid, Jane's Addiction) > > Bongwater. Pearl Jam (named for a hallucinogenic jelly that one of > the band member's Native American grandmother often made). The Cure. Lush, XTC, [actually, The Cure were named for a really early song of theirs...] > > 6. Are named after places (Chicago, Boston, Kansas, Nazareth, > > Berlin, Laibach) > > Alabama. Soundgarden. Bush. > > 7. Are named after literary references (The Doors, Love and > > Rockets, the Velvet Underground, Marillion; Special category for > > William S. Burroughs: Soft Machine, Soft Boys, Steely Dan) > > Romeo Void. Bob Dylan. > > > 8. Are named from other religious texts (Genesis, The Grateful > > Dead, Nirvana) > > Jesus Jones. Jesus and Mary Chain. Jesus Lizard, Liquid Jesus, Kula Shaker > > 9. There's always fun with torture devices! (Iron Maiden, Catherine > > Wheel, Barry Manilow) > > Alice In Chains? anyone whose ever been trapped in a back seat of a station wagon with a little sister and a fashion magazine would know that Depeche Mode would them qualify. ===== "[I]t's important for the maintenance of consensus that some people keep on being scared of what might happen and probably won't; otherwise, they would not be such easy prey for what can happen and actually has. There is even a name for this tactic -- it's called 'triangulation' -- and eight years of it have been much more than enough." -- Christopher Hichens in Mother Jones, Sep/Oct 2000 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #275 *******************************