From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #269 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, September 28 2000 Volume 09 : Number 269 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Absolutely Famous ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Absolutely Famous [Tom Clark ] Re: Absolutely Famous [Capuchin ] Re: Absolutely Famous [Bayard ] Re: east coast tour [bocchi ball ] Fwd: Interview with Winona LaDuke, Green VP Candidate ["Souped Up For Ja] It is not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth! [Tom Clark ] Re: Absolutely Famous [Glen Uber ] Oh, God! Not this thread again. [Glen Uber ] Re: Almost Fabulous ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: addendum to previous concert-habits post ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Robyn Hitchcock UK dates [duplanet@global2000.net (by way of bocce ball <] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:43:20 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Absolutely Famous At 11:15 AM 9/27/00 -0400, John Jenks wrote: > I don't know >if I've ever heard Led Zeppelin songs on a soundtrack before, either. "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" Jason T. "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:06:54 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Absolutely Famous on 9/27/00 8:43 AM, Jason R. Thornton at jthornton@ucsd.edu wrote: > At 11:15 AM 9/27/00 -0400, John Jenks wrote: > >> I don't know >> if I've ever heard Led Zeppelin songs on a soundtrack before, either. > > "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" Get the DVD of "Fast Times...". If you watch it with the commentary by Crowe and director Amy Heckerling, you'll learn that Atlantic wouldn't let them use anything from Zeppelin IV, but the band allowed Crowe to use Kashmir since it was released on their own Swan Song label and he had always kissed their asses in Rolling Stone. Oh, and the DVD allows spectacular stop frames of Phoebe Cates' pool scene (so I've heard...) - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Absolutely Famous On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Tom Clark wrote: > Oh, and the DVD allows spectacular stop frames of Phoebe Cates' pool scene > (so I've heard...) I wouldn't know anything about that... I promise. Je. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ [cc] counter-copyright http://www.openlaw.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:07:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: Absolutely Famous > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Tom Clark wrote: > > Oh, and the DVD allows spectacular stop frames of Phoebe Cates' pool scene > > (so I've heard...) > > I wouldn't know anything about that... I promise. Whyever not? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:15:35 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: Re: east coast tour the latest in the saga of the TLA show on october 13th...looks like there will be two shows on the 13th, with robyn & grant will be doing the early one and wheatus and sr-71 doing the late one. >From: duplanet@global2000.net >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:38:23 +0100 >To: bocchi ball >Subject: Re: east coast tour > >Woj, > >I checked and got this info: > >there is an early show and a late show at the TLA - robyn >& grant-lee are doing the early show, the house is cleared and some other act >is on afterwards. apparently someone at the TLA did not know this. time for >robyn & grant-lee tba. > >David > >>david, >> >>>Fri-Oct-13 Philadelphia Theater of Living Arts (TLA) (Grant & Robyn) >> >>i heard from someone in philadelphia who called the TLA box office. they >>know nothing of this show at all and still have someone else scheduled on >>the 13th for whom they're currently selling tickets. the mystery thickens! >> >>woj > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:06:44 PDT From: "Souped Up For Ja" Subject: Fwd: Interview with Winona LaDuke, Green VP Candidate since the list is slow... >In These Times > > >Winona Speaks >an interview with Winona LaDuke >by Kristin Kolb-Angelbeck > >While Al Gore and George W. Bush were coming down from their >convention-infomercial highs, Ralph Nader and his running >mate, Winona LaDuke, were barnstorming their way across the >country and gaining the attention of independent-minded >voters. On August 25, a Portland, Oregon rally for the Green >Party ticket drew more than 10,000 people--larger than any >public event for Bush or Gore this year. > >Nader may be a familiar name. But who's Winona LaDuke? The >40-year-old economist, writer and mother of three is also a >leading voice for American Indian rights. She lives with her >family in White Earth, an Anishinaabeg reservation in >northern Minnesota, where she heads the White Earth Land >Recovery Project. LaDuke also co-chairs the Indigenous >Women's Network and acts as program director for Honor the >Earth, a national American Indian foundation. > >In These Times' News Editor Kristin Kolb-Angelbeck caught up >with LaDuke before she left for Portland, during a pit-stop >at her White Earth home. > >What does your campaign offer to voters dissatisfied with >Gore and Bush? > >Ralph and I are saying: Let's cut to the quick of the >dilemma we are facing in this society, which is the >concentration of power and wealth in the hands of a few and >the growing disenfranchisement of the vast majority of the >American people. Al Gore never speaks to the issue of the >disparity of wealth in this society. He never speaks to the >issue of the growing corporate concentration of power, the >increasing disenfranchisement of the working class in this >country, or how hard it is to unionize. > >Most job growth in the past few years has been in temp jobs >and low-wage jobs. More people are working at places like >Wal-Mart for minimum wage. All those people "happily" moving >off welfare may be employed, but they still are living at or >below poverty level. Bush and Gore do not speak to these >people. > >What do you want to bring to the national political agenda? > >First and foremost, we need to move the budget out of a >military economy. A third of the federal budget is spent on >the military right now*--10 times what we spend on education. >I have two children in school and one of them had class in a >trailer all last year. But instead of education, they spend >money on new missile systems. We need to transform this >military economy into a peacetime economy. That >transformation would drive not only economic and social >justice, but it would also do a lot for the environment. The >military is the single largest toxic producer in the >country. > >We also need to talk about demilitarizing our foreign >policy. We're the single largest purveyor of small weapons >in the world. Today most of the conflicts around the world >are not fought with ICBMs or F-16s, they're fought with >small guns--if that's what you want to call an M-16. During >World War I, 95 percent of the people killed were >combatants. Today 90 percent of people killed in wars are >women and children. You do not sell guns to people who >violate human rights, who are going to use those guns to mow >down women and children. You don't give them guns with my >tax dollars. > >Do you think Bush would do more harm to your community than >Gore? > >Actually, Republican presidents have not been that bad for >Indians. They've returned more land. Nixon was the best >president for Indian people, isn't that interesting? He gave >back more land and he supported more legislation benefiting >Indian people than any other president of the past 30 years. > >Indians are suing the federal government for mismanagement >of Indian funds. It's the largest class-action lawsuit in >history. Now why do we have to sue them? Why couldn't they >just say, "We're going to fix it." Meanwhile, the >Republicans say they will tidy that up right away: It's on >the Republican Indian platform. > >What's on your Indian platform? > >Oh, I've got a big Indian platform. Invest in an alternative >energy policy. One of my big things is that the Great Plains >is considered the "Saudi Arabia of wind power." We need >heavy investment there. Plains tribes have all the potential >in the world for wind energy, but they don't have any money. >Meanwhile, 65 percent of research and development money in >the Department of Energy over the past 40 years has gone to >nuclear power and coal. Wouldn't it be great if we spent it >researching and developing wind and solar power? > >Also, set a living wage. Offer economic justice for poor >communities. Create economic enterprise zones based on a >localized model. Begin reconciliation and restitution >programs similar to what [slave reparations advocate] >Randall Robinson talks about. Basically, good countries >should honor their treaties and good countries should not >steal. > >What are the biggest obstacles facing your campaign? > >One is lack of access to the public forum, especially the >debates, and the other is fear. The vast majority of the >American electorate that is progressive bases their >[political] decisions on fear, not on principle, and that's >a shame. They're like, "Oh no, I can't vote for him, this >might happen." We've got to get past that. > >Is there really no difference for you between Gore and Bush? > >I lost one of my best friends last year because of Al Gore. >Her name was Ingrid Washinawatok, and she was killed in >Colombia in March 1999. She went down there to help the U'wa >[fight Occidental Petroleum's plans to drill on their >ancestral land] and was assassinated by the FARC. Meanwhile, >Gore has $500,000 worth of Occidental stock and the U.S. >government just gave $1.3 billion in military aid to >Colombia. They are the second largest recipient of U.S. >military aid, and basically it's used to blow away >civilians. > >What Bill Clinton and Al Gore do is insidious. They let >Occidental executives stay in the Lincoln Bedroom, and then >they give military aid to Colombia to help support their >little oil developments down there. I cannot support that >man. I didn't even vote until 1996. If I didn't have Ralph >to vote for, I wouldn't vote. > >Why didn't you vote? > >Because I just didn't believe in it. I wanted to vote for >what I believe in. Also because of my circumstances--a lot >of Indian people don't vote because they consider the United >States a foreign government. > >Do you think more American Indians are going to vote in this >election? > >Yes. We have the lowest voter turnout of anybody. If I can >convince another 5 to 10 percent to vote, I'll feel really >great. Did you know there are 600,000 Indian voters in >Oklahoma? And there are 60,000 in Montana. Indians would be >a pivotal voting group if we would get out and vote. > >What do you think of the media coverage of your campaign? >All anybody really knows about you is that you're a Native >American woman and you're running with Ralph Nader. > >That illustrates how trivialized our campaign is. What do >they say about Dick Cheney? They don't just say he's a rich >white guy. In my case, I got a degree [in economics] from >Harvard; I got a master's in world development from Antioch. >I'm a rural economist by training. I wrote a couple of >books. I wrote a novel [Last Standing Woman]. I have spent >most of my life working on energy policy issues for >different Indian communities who are being dammed or flooded >or radiated or torn up for utilities in the East. I'm also >the only candidate whose annual income is under six digits. > >Looking at the protests against the WTO and the IMF, what do >you see as a positive economic alternative to globalization? > >Localization--investing in local economies. Remember the >rise of the microbreweries a few years ago? We need to >return to micro-cheeseries, small farms. We need to value >local markets. The government needs to finance small >businesses and stop corporate mergers. I lost track after >AOL bought Time Warner. It's like a woman with 19 hyphenated >last names. I have no idea who's who anymore. Keep your own >names, ladies. > >You can't just exist on your island of political >correctness. You have to fight bad guys and make good. >Strengthen your communities. And you've got to vote. > >[Baby cries.] > >I have three children. I have a six-month-old here that I'm >nursing. > >How do you juggle campaigning and being a mom? > >Wildly. I always bring the baby with me when I'm travelling. >I really had to trade in my family [to do this campaign]. So >I try to demand family time as much as I can. I also realize >that to ensure a good life for my kids, I have to retain my >political activism. > >To be honest with you, as a woman, campaigning strikes me as >a male privilege. Guys can walk away from childcare. All >those politicians have someone else take care of their kids. >But I'd rather be with my kids than out shaking hands. > >As a woman and a mother, how do you see yourself bringing a >different perspective to politics? > >I see the back end of all the laws the Washington guys >write. Living in a poor community, as a woman and as a >mother, I feel the absence of good education programming, of >funding for daycare and health programs for kids. Every four >years, I see these guys talking about what to do with >women's bodies. But you don't hear them talking about the >quality of women's lives in between campaigns. > >I think I bring a much more holistic perspective. If you >care about the quality of life for future generations, you >better care about the quality of life for women and >children. And that better mean clean air, clean water, good >health care, good education. That's your future. Your future >is not in how many guns you have. Your future is in the >well-being of your kids. > > Paul Glover * (607) 272-4330 > Box 365, Ithaca, NY 14851 > > Ithaca Health Fund > Box 362, Ithaca, NY 14851 * 387-8344 > http://www.lightlink.com/healthfund > > * actually closer to half, if you count interest on the debt -- most of which was accumulated by military spending. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:12:06 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: It is not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth! http://www.theonion.com/onion3634/dental_hygiene_tips.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:52:36 -0400 From: "Winn, Kari" Subject: RE: east coast tour I saw that Grant is scheduled to play Schubas in Chicago on Oct. 11th... any rumors that Robyn might be joining him? Kari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Absolutely Famous On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Capuchin wrote: >On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Tom Clark wrote: >> Oh, and the DVD allows spectacular stop frames of Phoebe Cates' pool scene >> (so I've heard...) > >I wouldn't know anything about that... I promise. Yeah, I know what you mean. I bought the video of "Paradise" for the intriguing plot and not for Phoebe's waterfall shower scene. "Really, baby...it's not mine!" Cheers! - -g- "When a woman marries she is complete. When a man marries, he is finished." --Oscar Wilde +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Glen Uber uberg (at) sonic dot net http://www.sonic.net/~uberg Santa Rosa, California ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Oh, God! Not this thread again. On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Glen Uber wrote: >Yeah, I know what you mean. I bought the video of "Paradise" for the >intriguing plot and not for Phoebe's waterfall shower scene. Sorry about that last post. It shouldn't have gone to the whole list. I really don't want to be responsible for starting up another "actors/actresses we'd like to see nude" thread. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:30:22 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Almost Fabulous From: John Jenks > We saw it this past weekend and likewise really liked it. I don't know > if I've ever heard Led Zeppelin songs on a soundtrack before, either. There's a few of them on the soundtrack to "The Song Remains The Same"... Still haven't seen the movie, but have been enjoying the soundtrack for a couple of weeks now. I'm actually paying attention to the lyrics to some of these songs after years of hearing them merely as classic rock wallpaper, and as a result I've gained a new appreciation for several of them, most notably "Simple Man" and "That's The Way" - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:54:08 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: addendum to previous concert-habits post Brian Huddell wrote: > > > And hey, did you get an > > advance copy of "Kid A"? A friend said you could download the whole > > thing for free on something called "the World Wide Web"--is that true? > > Now available in its entirety on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 (and absm.2000s and > absm.complete_cd). Hmm, worth a look. I'm going to see 'em tonight. I have been reliably informed by folks have have the album on promo that it's almost unlistenable at first; hope it's a grower... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:56:09 BST From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: addendum to previous concert-habits post >Brian Huddell wrote: > > > > > And hey, did you get an > > > advance copy of "Kid A"? A friend said you could download the whole > > > thing for free on something called "the World Wide Web"--is that true? > > > > Now available in its entirety on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 (and absm.2000s >and > > absm.complete_cd). > >Hmm, worth a look. I'm going to see 'em tonight. I have been reliably >informed by folks have have the album on promo that it's almost >unlistenable at first; hope it's a grower... > Unlistenable my arse! Unless of course you find Massive Attack or DJ Shadow challenging and avant garde... The new album is very good indeed, and this coming from someone who's always missed something when it comes to Radiohead. Sure, it's a real excursion away from their previous sound, and yes, I'd say it's a grower, but it's not really *that* surprising or disturbing... certainly not unlistenable. Cheers Matt _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:35:46 GMT From: "James Hadfield" Subject: Re: Another Writing Question It's me, again, sucking what info I can from the writerly types on the list. Can ya please tell me whether the following represents the correct ouseage of the "ff." abbreviation. I.e., should there be a comma following the page #? Folksongs and Folklore of South Uist, (p. 29, ff.) (And now that I think about it, does the above sentence indicate proper usage of the "i.e." abbreviation. That is, should there be a capital letter, a comma, etc.?) I could go on because I'm now wondering whether "etc." should include a period before the question mark... Anybody know of a place on the Web where this stuff is covered?? Feg you very much... Folksongs and Folklore of South Uist, (p. 29, ff.), _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:35:27 -0400 From: duplanet@global2000.net (by way of bocce ball ) Subject: Robyn Hitchcock UK dates Here is some late breaking news, dates Robyn Hitchcock is playing in the UK: Wed Oct 4th Robyn will be playing in Wembley, a show which will be taped for the Jerry Sadowitz Show (this will air at a later date on Chennel 5 television. Anyone wishing tickets for this event in London should call 0207-737-8496 Mon Nov 27 Robyn will be taping another show, this one for the BBC Radio 4 Boothby Graffoe show. He's playing the second show which is apparently at 8:45, but call the BBC in London for tickets and more information Furthermore here are two live dates Robyn will be playing (with a band): Nov 17 at the Point in Oxford Nov 18 at The Underground in London More dates to be announced on the official site, The Museum of Robyn Hitchcck (robynhitchcock.com) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #269 *******************************