From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V9 #267 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 26 2000 Volume 09 : Number 267 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: addendum to previous concert-habits post [Bayard ] [ebmaniax-l] Bowling with Brian [Eb ] Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods ["Jack Tripper" ] Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods [Eclipse ] Hope for a miracle... [Eb ] Re: DC feggery [Ben ] Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods ["brian nupp" ] how about the rams head gig? [LDudich@ase.org] Re: [ebmaniax-l] Bowling with Brian ["J. Brown" ] Re: Bowling with Brian ["J. Brown" ] so long, farewell [Joel Mullins ] mnf [bocchi ball ] Re: Bowling with Brian [Eb ] Re: alt-rock guitar ["Russ Reynolds" ] Reardon Steel revealed ["Russ Reynolds" ] men and women with acoustic guitars ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: 100% invisible 0% hitchcock ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: east coast dates [Adam.Leonard@icl.com] RE: alt.axe ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: men and women with acoustic guitars [overbury@cn.ca] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: Re: addendum to previous concert-habits post yet ANOTHER thing we have in common! (does anyone else feel scared?) On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Eb wrote: > I skimmed over my concert list...there's no easy way to definitively > tabulate whom I've seen the most, but I was surprised to find that the #1 > artist is probably none other than Mr. Robyn himself. Nine shows. I guess > this makes sense, since I've seen him about three times now for "social ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:11:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: [ebmaniax-l] Bowling with Brian You might recall that I was really disappointed with Brian Wilson's mediocre-to-stomach-knotting-wretched vocal performance in Anaheim, last year. Especially since I had plowed $72 into a ticket. I feel like last night's show at the Hollywood Bowl was my karmic payback. Odd, after never going to the Bowl in 14-15 years of regular concerting, now I've gone there twice within about a month. I almost didn't go. Given the Anaheim show, I was gritting my teeth, anticipating having my pristine images of those Pet Sounds masterpieces destroyed by live versions with deteriorated vocals. Still, the novelty of Brian performing the entire Pet Sounds album (in sequence) backed by "The Pet Sounds Orchestra" was awfully tantalizing. Finally, I opted for a no-risk approach. The tickets had an unusually wide price range ($85-$5), so I bought one of the cheapest $5 tickets, a scant three hours before the show. Figured I'd just rot in the nosebleed seats, and if the show stunk, it wouldn't be much of a loss. I haven't found a parking trick for the Bowl yet, so I just parked way too far south on a surface street and walked seven or eight blocks to the venue. Can't stand paying for parking, can't stand waiting to enter/leave in a snarl of other cars. By the time I entered the Hollywood Bowl gates 15-20 minutes later, the music had just started. It was a lavish orchestral preamble, incorporating a whirlwind of quotes from various Brian Wilson songs. A bit too Disney-esque in tone, but quite sophisticated and impressive. Looked like approximately 50 players onstage. I'm 90% sure that Van Dyke Parks was the conductor, but it was hard to tell from that distance (and with his back to the crowd, usually). By the time I arrived in the vicinity of my seat, about two minutes of music had elapsed. The first thing I realized was that the place was only about 80% full. I stood in the pathway between sections, looked up to where my seat was and then looked down to the next section, which had plenty of empty space. So much for my assigned seat. I went to the lower section, and took a seat a few rows from the section's top. The prelude went on for a good 10-15 minutes. I was enjoying it a lot more at the end, because it started incorporating some artier material from the Smile sessions. Finally, the orchestra stopped, bowed and slowly left the stage. Then the core band entered -- 10 or 11 people, basically the same folks I saw in Anaheim last year. Same pudgy guitar player, the four Wondermints, same female backing singer, the horn guy from Poi Dog Pondering, etc. Gothic Brian was dressed all in black, and took a seat behind his standard "phantom keyboard," facing directly forward. This ensemble played for about a hour, I believe. It was a fair cross-section of popular material, minus all the Pet Sounds songs. The set list was similar to what I saw in Anaheim, but with slightly more emphasis on newer songs. He played "Let It Shine" off his 1988 solo album, and mentioned the new Rhino reissue in his introduction. He played "Lay Down Burden" and "Your Imagination" off Imagination. He played a new song called "Kiss Me Baby," which was quite enjoyable despite his lamest vocal of the night. Otherwise, it was a selection of the usual hits. Nothing too surprising, except for "Please Let Me Wonder" and "'Til I Die." I wish Brian would cut "Add Some Music" -- he really overrates that one, I think. Ditto for "Do It Again," a clunky tune which is well-known to be one of the songs he most enjoys performing (for whatever reason). Oh yes, and the show opened with a short excerpt from Barenaked Ladies' "Brian Wilson." Gag. The backing band was fantastic, while Brian's voice was...OK. His pitch was a little shaky, and his phrasing was uninspired. He rarely held notes properly -- he just bailed out, and took a breath for the next line. Still, there weren't any of those *excruciating* vocal moments I saw in Anaheim ("Don't Worry Baby"...owwww), and for that, I was grateful. Oh, and Brian has given up altogether on pretending to play keyboard. Mostly, he just sat there, and waved his fists in the air. It was disappointing that he didn't play, but at least he didn't look as retarded as when he's robotically bouncing his hands in place on the unamplified keys. So, that set ended, and there was a 20-minute break. During the opening set, I had gradually hopped forward six or seven rows, taking advantage of the empty seats. During the intermission, I decided to really test the waters, and walked forward up the aisle. Soon, I found a seat in the *next* section lower -- a good 150 feet and 45-50 rows below my officially ticketed position. I was still about 300 feet (?) from the stage, but I was considerably more pleased with this spot. And I was dead-center, throughout. Karmic payback, again? I stayed in this spot for the rest of the night, though I would've been able to go even lower if I had been willing to play the "Is anyone sitting here?" game. Of course, the next segment was the Pet Sounds album from beginning to end. It's a testimony to Brian's brilliantly detailed arrangements that the orchestral performance didn't even sound particularly "embellished." Certain songs which faded out on the album required new "cold" endings, but otherwise, the only notably different bit was a significantly extended coda on the instrumental "Pet Sounds," including a powerful saxophone solo. It was announced that the Poi Dog guy had written the new orchestral arrangements, and if so, he did a damn fine job. One of the geeky highlights for me was *seeing* the timpani played -- the timpani is just so dramatic on the original disc, and it was exciting to see someone actually *hitting* those stark, booming notes. I wish I could remember more about Brian's spoken introductions, but to be honest, they just weren't too noteworthy. Same endearingly ingenuous stuff about his songs being "pretty," and a couple of mentions of brother Carl. Here's one item: Amused at the avalanche of noise, he kept asking the audience to give a loud yell in unison. Later, he had the *band* yell as loud as they could, in response. Dumb fun, but fun. (Not that I ever yelled, myself. ;)) The climax of Pet Sounds even included a tape of the concluding train-and-barking-dogs montage. The crowd went crazy, of course. My own favorite performances were probably "Pet Sounds," "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" and "You Still Believe in Me." I know there were three songs which choked me up, because they were so beautiful...I think these were the ones. As the crowd clapped at the album's end, the orchestra filed out again. Then the core band spun (rather anticlimactically) into another batch of old hits. They opened with "Good Vibrations," which has never been one of my favorite Beach Boys songs, despite its "masterpiece" status. Really, it's just a lot of standard three-chord phrases, twisted up with all the key modulations and unusual pacing. Really good stuff, but it just doesn't move me like a few dozen other Brian Wilson tunes. Lyrically grating, too. Anyway, from there they mostly dove into the early Chuck Berry-period hits, which don't thrill me so much either. They even did (gulp) "Barbara Ann," which remains one of my least favorite tunes by *anyone*, despite my love for the Beach Boys. Damn, that song is wretched! It's a bit more tolerable when Mike Love isn't singing it, but not *much* more tolerable. There were five or six other songs in this section...um, "All Summer Long," "Surfin' USA," maybe "In My Room" (or was that in the opening set?). I forget all the titles. For some of these songs, there was one major surprise: Brian strapped on a bass guitar, just like in the early days...wow! Unfortunately, it seemed like he was playing "phantom bass" as well, once the music started. The band left the stage, and then returned for a final, minimal version of "Love and Mercy." End of concert. The way I figure it, my previous Brian Wilson show cost $30-$40 more than it was worth, and this one cost $30-$40 *less*. So, I guess it all balanced out. Karma. Really, given the relative virtues of these two concerts, I almost wish I had skipped the Anaheim show altogether. Except for the closer view and the performances of "Little Girl I Once Knew" and "This Whole World" (two lesser-known gems), the Anaheim show is now essentially expendable for me. As for my obligatory celeb-spotting, there was only one star minor enough to be found in my upper-deck milieu: Doug Fieger of the Knack, clad in a purple-felt jacket and frilly pink shirt. I also managed to see that Beatle-haircutted guitarist from the Jigsaw Seen who seems to be at *every* show with even the slightest Poptopia flavor...I couldn't escape him, even in a venue this large! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:42:10 -0500 From: "Jack Tripper" Subject: Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods > > > what's the "long one"? (please, no wisecracks about eb's "unit". well, > okay, maybe just one or two.) Well from what I gather, there's the actual Kershaw Sessions which are all acoustic, recorded in Kershaw's kitchen, and tape traders list it as being 30 minutes long. Then there's the CDR that traders have been passing around and it has a lot of other stuff, some early live Egyptians and so forth, and it's if I remember right about 65 minutes long. This discussion of alt-rock guitar heros is really interesting! Here's some of my votes I haven't seen yet (I checked the archives): Roger Miller! From Mission Of Burma! Everyone, including Peter Buck, has ripped from this guy. Robyn Hitchcock himself - I have no clue how he does some of the stuff he does.I have no clue how he's doing all that off-the-cuff stuff on the live version of Glass Hotel, for instance. and no one mentioned Bobby Mould?? That shocked me! and three cheers to the gentleman who mentioned Paul Leary...he's great. Okay, that's my bit for now. jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:53:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Eclipse Subject: Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods >Bobby Mould absolutely! can't believe i left him out. Johnny Marr, as well. more as i think of 'em (or until the topic dies :) - - Eclipse np: A Can Of Bees ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:10:25 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Hope for a miracle... I read that Shane MacGowan has checked into a rehab clinic again.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:26:11 -0400 From: Ben Subject: Re: DC feggery > DC fegs: who is going to what shows? Should we arrange a feg-together for > the first IOTA gig? Is anyone else besides Carissa and me going to the > ram's head? I will be going to both of the Iota Club only if they really are on the 15th and the 16th! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:30:06 EDT From: "brian nupp" Subject: Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods That Kershaw Session cdr was an actually A&M Release, with a most excellent version of 52 stations and Open the Door Homer. Is this the same version that I have? Brian Nupp >From: "Jack Tripper" >Reply-To: "Jack Tripper" >To: >Subject: Re: My Introduction, alt-guitar gods >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:42:10 -0500 > > > > > > > > what's the "long one"? (please, no wisecracks about eb's "unit". well, > > okay, maybe just one or two.) > >Well from what I gather, there's the actual Kershaw Sessions which are all >acoustic, recorded in Kershaw's kitchen, and tape traders list it as being >30 minutes long. Then there's the CDR that traders have been passing around >and it has a lot of other stuff, some early live Egyptians and so forth, >and >it's if I remember right about 65 minutes long. > >This discussion of alt-rock guitar heros is really interesting! Here's some >of my votes I haven't seen yet (I checked the archives): >Roger Miller! From Mission Of Burma! Everyone, including Peter Buck, has >ripped from this guy. >Robyn Hitchcock himself - I have no clue how he does some of the stuff he >does.I have no clue how he's doing all that off-the-cuff stuff on the live >version of Glass Hotel, for instance. >and no one mentioned Bobby Mould?? That shocked me! >and three cheers to the gentleman who mentioned Paul Leary...he's great. > >Okay, that's my bit for now. > > jason > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:32:11 -0400 From: LDudich@ase.org Subject: how about the rams head gig? Hey, I'm planning on going to the Ram's Head gig (along with at least one other former member of the dearly- departed Number Nine Line) too. Should we arrange a feg meeting. As for favorite Robyn albums, I've used Queen Elvis as the album to introduce my girlfriend to Uncle Bobby. I'll let you know what she thinks. - -luther (who's fav RH album is Respect, minus "huh! Wafflehead!" and with the tracks that were left off "Live-in Years", "dark green energy", "alright yeah", and "bright fresh flowers". :)) > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:29:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bayard > Subject: Re: My Introduction/ DC feggery > > > The next stuff I bought was 3 records second hand - Fegmania!, Globe > of > > Frogs, and the live picture disc EP. Out of those three I liked (and > still > > do) Globe of Frogs the best. > > I think I would rank my enjoyment of the A&M albums in descending > chronological order. IE, I like Globe of Frogs the best. It's very > enjoyable (even luminous rose!) > > Imagine my surprise when I started reading all > > these critical reviews, many of them classifying 'Globe of Frogs' as > part of > > Robyn's dark period where he was lost, not up to snuff, et cetera. > > By the way, i also like Groovy Decay. > > DC fegs: who is going to what shows? Should we arrange a feg-together for > the first IOTA gig? Is anyone else besides Carissa and me going to the > ram's head? > ******************************* > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:37:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: [ebmaniax-l] Bowling with Brian On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Eb wrote: > He played a new song called "Kiss Me Baby," which was quite enjoyable > despite his lamest vocal of the night. Um... This isnt a new song at all. "Kiss Me Baby" was an Album Track off of The Beach Boys 1965 album Today. Maybe you mean "The First Time" or "This Isn't Love" which are new songs but really not the caliber of "Kiss Me Baby". Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA USA "Monkey in a Turban, Oh What Does it Mean?" -Frank Black ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:51:39 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Bowling with Brian >> He played a new song called "Kiss Me Baby," which was quite enjoyable >> despite his lamest vocal of the night. > >Um... This isnt a new song at all. "Kiss Me Baby" was an Album Track off >of The Beach Boys 1965 album Today. Maybe you mean "The First Time" or >"This Isn't Love" which are new songs but really not the caliber of "Kiss >Me Baby". Hmm...I just don't know. I don't own Today and I'm not familiar with the above tracks, so I can't say for sure. Maybe I'll look up the lyrics on the web, and see if they ring any bells. Do either of those new songs contain the phrase "Kiss me baby"? Eb, who still yearns to see Brian perform some of the really over-the-edge Smile stuff, like "Surf's Up," "Cabinessence," "Wonderful," "Wind Chimes" and "Let the Wind Blow" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:08:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: Bowling with Brian On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Eb wrote: > >> He played a new song called "Kiss Me Baby," which was quite enjoyable > >> despite his lamest vocal of the night. > > > >Um... This isnt a new song at all. "Kiss Me Baby" was an Album Track off > >of The Beach Boys 1965 album Today. Maybe you mean "The First Time" or > >"This Isn't Love" which are new songs but really not the caliber of "Kiss > >Me Baby". > > Hmm...I just don't know. I don't own Today and I'm not familiar with the > above tracks, so I can't say for sure. Maybe I'll look up the lyrics on the > web, and see if they ring any bells. Do either of those new songs contain > the phrase "Kiss me baby"? Well he has been doing "Kiss me Baby" in almost all his live shows and he did it in Puyallup last thursday. I dont theink either of the new songs contain that phrase. But you really should get a copy of Today. It's the first really classic Beach Bopys album and everything that makes Pet Sounds great is there. Try to get the two-fer with Summer Day/Summer Nights if you can. Anyway here's the lyrics: Kiss Me Baby by Brian Wilson Please don't let me argue anymore I won't make you worry like before Can't remember what we fought about Late late last night we said it was over But I remember when we thought it out We both had a broken heart Woah Baby (Kiss me Baby) Woah Baby (Love to only) Woah Baby (Kiss me baby) Woah Baby (Love to only) As I drove away I felt a tear It hit me I was losing someone dear Told my folks I would be alright Tossed and I turned, my head was so heavy Then I wondered as it got light Were you still awake like me? Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA USA "Monkey in a Turban, Oh What Does it Mean?" -Frank Black ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:39:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Mullins Subject: so long, farewell Well, I haven't been very active on the list lately, but I have tried my best to keep up with the digests (and I haven't done very well). Anyway, now things are just way too busy to even keep up with that, so I'm signing off. If anyone needs to get a hold of me in the future about Glass Flesh or anything else, I can be reached at joelmullins@yahoo.com. Later. It was fun. Joel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:29:34 -0400 From: bocchi ball Subject: mnf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:43:58 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Bowling with Brian >Well he has been doing "Kiss me Baby" in almost all his live shows and he >did it in Puyallup last thursday. OK, then you learned me somethin'. >But you really should get a copy of Today. I heard it once, at a friend's. I had read several testimonies similar to yours, and was thinking "Jeez, why don't I own this?" Then I heard it for myself. I remember discovering one or two new songs which got to me, but otherwise, I already owned the essential tunes via anthologies. And then, doesn't the album end with another of those horrifying spoken-word novelties? That was probably what really turned me off. I do have Summer Days (And Summer Nights), already. That one's mandatory, if only because "Let Him Run Wild" is *such* an amazing, overlooked song. Along with "California Girls," that track foreshadows Pet Sounds better than just about any other early Beach Boys tune. Eb, feeling a bit under the weather and hoping it won't get worse ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:43:04 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: alt-rock guitar >>>>richard thompson >>> >>> Definitely a guitar hero, but not alternative. >> >>He's certainly not mainstream. > > Only in that he doesn't sell well. Put it this way: I think Thompson's work > of the last 20 years is more mainstream/accessible than Dylan's during the > same period, and I'd certainly call Dylan "mainstream." I can't imagine > anyone "wouldn't be able to handle" Richard Thompson, even if his music > didn't appeal to them in the end. The only thing at all unpalatable about > him is that his voice is a bit of an acquired taste...that's about it. I think the same could be said of a number of artists who have avoided the mainstream. To me, the term "alternative" is a classification of popularity rather than music style. Using that definition, The Edge would most certainly *not* be alternative, so I assume your definition of alternative does not match mine in this case. >>>Peter Buck >>Call me nuts but I don't think of Buck as much more than a rythm guitarist. >>He's certainly no virtuoso. > > That's true enough. However, he's also vastly influential and emulated. If > nothing else, his incredible number of guitar cameos seals his "hero" > status. At the time, it seemed like he played on almost *every* > college-rock album of the mid/late '80s.... :) Good point here. I guess Keith Richards is certainly a guitar hero so one musn't necessarily play lead to be considered for the title. Mick Ronson was also primarily a rythm guy, wasn't he? Ronson certainly had his share of cameos and I guess I would put Buck in the same class (or the alternative version thereof). Okay, sold. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:54:58 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Reardon Steel revealed >>on 1/3/04 4:18 PM, Tom Clark at tclark@reardensteel.com wrote: > > Looks like the beta test of our time machine went pretty well! so THAT's what you folks are up to--Flux Capacitors! Did you happen to get Honus Wagner's autograph while you were there? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: men and women with acoustic guitars > From: lj lindhurst > Okay, and while I'm on the BitchWagon, here's something that TGQ and > I have been bitching about ad nauseam for about a week now: Has > anyone else noticed the tendency for commercials these days to sound > like they came right out of the Sarah McLaughlin weepy folk-chick > factory? Geez, does every Pillsbury product deem a heart-warming > moment delivered in perfect shmaltz by some dumbitch with an acoustic > guitar???!! I haven't really noticed that, myself, but I do notice a lot of gas-station- attendant punk-pop and bad electronica and lame-ass weepy folk-dude factory music. I'm not the ecto-fiend I used to be by a long shot, but I still think there's more disproportionate loathing for the genre on this list than I've seen on any other list I'd care to subscribe to. It's hard for me to see a lot of the guy-with-a-guitar heroes worshipped around here as all that different, in terms of superficial puke-ritude. And I'm not just saying that 'cause I happen to be listening to, and adoring all over again, Lisa Germano (_...Love Circus_, in case you're wondering). Drew ===== Andrew D. Simchik: drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 02:22:02 EDT From: Eohmar@aol.com Subject: Re: My Introduction/ DC feggery In a message dated 9/25/00 11:39:21 AM US Mountain Standard Time, walden@eclipse.net writes: << It's very enjoyable (even luminous rose!) >> I find "Luminous Rose" to be a very affecting listen. Like Van Morrison's "T.B. Sheets," it's a hard song to listen to without finding yourself (I guess I should say "myself" and not speak for everyone else ... bad habit) growing more and more disturbed. I don't know. The image of corpses undulating in the sea does something for me. Guess I'm a perv. Alan. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 02:26:57 EDT From: Eohmar@aol.com Subject: Re: My Introduction In a message dated 9/25/00 5:41:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time, dmw@radix.net writes: << > "Wading Through Your Ventilator"....I've gotten into several bands on the > aesthetics of the song titles alone (Guided By Voices, The Fall, Spoon) and > Hitchcock of course did not disappoint. I remember especially how bizarre >> Does anyone know if Dylan invented the "weird" song title? Titles like "Temporary Like Achilles" and "Rainy Day Women #12 & 35" seem to have come out of nowhere in 1965-66. The guy was a damn genius, down to the small details. Oh, but this is a Robyn list, and ... let's see ... here goes ... does the song "Queen Elvis" depress the hell out of anyone else around here, or is it just me? Alan. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:03:42 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: talkin' 'bout grutness Marshall Needleman Armintor wrote: > > Anyway, check it out. The subsequent edition, "The Deeper meaning of > Liff," is slightly expanded and the maps are less funny. They also > omitted at least a few of the more earthy or scabrous entries, somewhat > inexplicably. yes, it's more PC than the first ed, which I think I know off by heart. I doubt any mainstream publisher would touch the first ed now -- too iffy. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:07:39 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: alt.axe "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" wrote: > > Ira Kaplan (Yo La Tengo) Steve Wynn Karl Precoda to name but 2 more ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:16:06 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 100% invisible 0% hitchcock Noe Shalev wrote: > > hi allll > help me plzzzzzz > does anyone know what the term " invisible technology" stands for? hope it's not the barking con-theory stuff from here: http://members.aol.com/alanyu5/ It's so paranoid, it's amusing. There is of course no conspiracy. Rev Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 04:39:17 -0500 From: "Jack Tripper" Subject: Re: alt.axe Keeping this thread alive, I thought of a couple more who maybe aren't "gods" but are incredible musicians: Nash Kato from UO. A much better player then the simplicity of their one hit "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon". To hear his bad-ass voodoo put on "Stull" or "Now That's The Barclords". What the f*&# he's doing on "Stull" is beyond my earthly ears. The 2 guys from Clawhammer - they just rock out, they're amazing, and no one seems to notice the band or the musicians enough. I always thought their first album would be a cult classic 10 years after it came out, but apparently it's still ahead of it's time. > "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" wrote: > > > > Ira Kaplan (Yo La Tengo) > > Steve Wynn > Karl Precoda > > to name but 2 more > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:34:43 +0100 From: Adam.Leonard@icl.com Subject: RE: east coast dates ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:49:26 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: alt.axe How about David Roback, Will Sergeant and Andy Gill? Michael - -----Original Message----- From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:stewart@ref.collins.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:08 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: alt.axe "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" wrote: > > Ira Kaplan (Yo La Tengo) Steve Wynn Karl Precoda to name but 2 more ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:17:31 -0400 From: overbury@cn.ca Subject: Re: men and women with acoustic guitars On 25 Sep 00, at 22:07, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > From: lj lindhurst > > Geez, does every Pillsbury product deem a heart-warming > > moment delivered in perfect shmaltz by some dumbitch with an > > acoustic guitar???!! Drew: > > I haven't really noticed that, myself, but I do notice a lot of > gas-station- > attendant punk-pop and bad electronica and lame-ass weepy folk-dude > factory music. Celtic stuff! Like that Disney commercial -- "celebrate the future hand in hand". And the back pain reliever commercial with the step-dancing wooden puppets. What's Gaelic for pee-yew? "Folk-dude factory music"? Like who? I think factory music is much more descriptive of the two other styles you mention. > I'm not the ecto-fiend I used to be by a long shot, > but I still think there's more disproportionate loathing for the genre > on this list than I've seen on any other list I'd care to subscribe > to. You got that impression here? The list used to be hosted by ecto.org. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V9 #267 *******************************